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Molly

29th March 2009, 15:40

Been clearing some space for a new 6x7 garage. Before committing to a traditional Versatile or Skyline model I wanted to ask if anybody’s built one themselves, gone with a block-built one, or simply if there are any other suggestions out there? Versatile's looking around $16,000 all in.

Thanks in advance.

munterk6

29th March 2009, 16:01

Have a look at this for a cheaper option...looks good. 10 x 10 and only $10.6K +gst.
heres the link...http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Sheds-garages/Sheds/auction-210006429.htm

I had a Versatile 9 x 6 with sleepout with ensuite built 18mths ago, with plumbing, electrical, permit,drainlaying etc it was $31k. Still cheaper per sq mtr than building a house for instance.
Hate to think what the cost would be now for the same thing!

munterk6

29th March 2009, 16:20

Hey ... have you considered s/hand? check this out.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Sheds-garages/Garages/auction-210258641.htm

Certainly a lot cheaper than a new one!

MSTRS

29th March 2009, 16:25

Have you considered KiwiSpan or TotalSpan...all metal jobbies. Very cost effective.

Molly

29th March 2009, 16:39

Cheers. That first one is framing only but that's a damn big garage! Will look into the steel framed ones for comparison thanks. Second-hand seems a difficult option because of our 'odd' site and the need to dismantle and transport it.

Motu

29th March 2009, 16:40

We did the exercise a couple of years ago with a 6x12 with sleepout.We went with Versatile because they were the only ones to give a comprehensive quote,very detailed.Skyline came out,promised the earth and never even supplied a quote....pity because I wanted a skyline.I had plenty of people to do various stages of an own built job,but it was just too messy to go that route...I just wanted it up.

I was reasonably happy with Versatile....the various stages went to the time frames,but the delays between were huge.From stepping out the site to finished product was 10 months.Versatile are under new ownership - they rang and asked if there were any complaints,and said they would fix any.The only real problem is a shower floor draining the wrong way - plumbers have been,but it has never been fixed.

Laava

29th March 2009, 17:09

Having just relocated an Ideal garage fro a client, I would stay away from them. My 2c

JimO

29th March 2009, 17:32

i built a 8x6 block garage with a large wooden deck above it because we overlook the harbour for less than 8k............ http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x67/jim157/DSCF1454.jpg

hospitalfood

29th March 2009, 17:43

the reason to go block or timber + weatherboard would be to match your house ( i'm assuming there is one ). the other advantage with block over skyline etc is that you cannot go through the wall with a swiss army knife ( timber frame with weatherboard is not strong either ) which could be a concern if you have expensive bikes.

You could check prices with local builders. I know a local builder up my way who can match the prices of kit-set home company's per square meter of house. You may find you can get a block garage for a good price.

Molly

29th March 2009, 19:43

Like the idea of a deck on top. This'll be the view:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianmolyneux/3049924752/

JimO

29th March 2009, 20:13

this is my view, just happened to be a building on fire ..........http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x67/jim157/DSC01031.jpg

shafty

29th March 2009, 20:28

We just had a steel shed constructed to match our mono pitch house. The guy who built our house for us had just sold a Kiwi Spam franchise, so I got him to check out options and find the best value for money - he came up with Shed Boss as best value and spec.

I'm happy :)

Good luck!

ps pic is before PA door and alum windows fitted; we did that sepeartely to get a better quality - ie ordered the same as our house ones

smoky

29th March 2009, 20:55

....Will look into the steel framed ones for comparison thanks

I was part of the team that evaluated the total cost of storm or flood damage, when the big storm ripped threw Thames Coromandel year before last.
One thing stood out to us - Every second garage or building that had collapsed or blown over was a steel framed one - definitely put me off

shafty

29th March 2009, 21:12

I was part of the team that evaluated the total cost of storm or flood damage, when the big storm ripped threw Thames Coromandel year before last.
One thing stood out to us - Every second garage or building that had collapsed or blown over was a steel framed one - definitely put me off

Every SECOND one huh Smoky, so I guess every 1st one was timber?

Winston001

29th March 2009, 21:24

Built a Skyline 12 x 7.2 ten years ago so my experience is out of date. However got a few general comments.

You can never have a too-big garage. You only build once. Adding on is a pain. Decide on what you really want given the space available, and get it.

Height. Most garages start at 2.1 stud - that's pretty low. Then the tilt-a-door (unless you get a roller) protrudes down 120mm into the opening, lowering it further. You won't get a caravan or some boats in. I specified a 2.4m and still can't get these things in because I hadn't allowed for the door. :mad:

Two doors are cheaper but one large door is useful. Sectionlift or roller for preference.

Specify extra spouting brackets - they use the minimum and spoutings sag - not a good look. Mine came off completely when it snowed.

Windows are good but a couple of panels of Clearlite on the roof is great too.

A gable soffit adds depth to the frontage rather than the blank flat look and is worth doing. Roof pitch at 15 degrees is minimal, your house is probably 25 degrees so something to think about.

Worth checking with a builder to see what he'd do but my builder always said he couldn't compete with factory mass-produced garages.

Finally, I prefer timber framing. It's environmentally sustainable, you can nail shelves to it, cut/chisel/bash it to fit stuff, it flexes but stays strong.

smoky

29th March 2009, 21:28

Every SECOND one huh Smoky, so I guess every 1st one was timber?

But considering the number of garages and buildings there are - steel framed one would be a small % - but steel framed ones made up a disproportional number of damaged, collapsed garages and sheds

No skin off my nose if you don't want to know

shafty

29th March 2009, 21:46

But considering the number of garages and buildings there are - steel framed one would be a small % - but steel framed ones made up a disproportional number of damaged, collapsed garages and sheds

No skin off my nose if you don't want to know

Sorry Mate, couldn't resist! :yes:

cave weta

30th March 2009, 09:45

Today the digger arrived to dig my footings for my 9x12 steel frame - bought it second hand on TM for $3300. last year.

The shed was in my town and just a kilometer away hows that! so in a couple of weeks we will be round there with cordless drills dissassembling it.

It took my council - Hauraki district 5 months to issue my permit.
no excuses- no reasons jusst shit service. it took a letter to the mayor to get it released, turned out that it was signed and ready to go on Jan 20 but had sat on a desk since then GGRRRRRR!

Total all up price for my job should be about $7000.
Lets see- ha ha!

Ive got 11 bikes, they will stay living in the electrified shipping container.
No point in putting .6mm of galv steel between them and the crims. I muck prefer 3mm of corten hi tensile and a 30,000volt zapper!

Molly

30th March 2009, 17:05

HenryDorsetCase

30th March 2009, 17:20

Thanks for all the advice. Security is always a concern and coming from the UK makes you extra paranoid. Think as I'll be lining the garage with wood it should provide an extra barrier for the crims.

Thanks again.

the biggest mistakes I made in speccing my garage (6 x 7.2)

It isnt insulated (too hot in summer, too cold in winter); and

ITS TOO SMALL. Need more space.

Winston001

30th March 2009, 23:52

the biggest mistakes I made in speccing my garage (6 x 7.2)

It isnt insulated (too hot in summer, too cold in winter); and

ITS TOO SMALL. Need more space.

Yeah! Always build as big as you can.

Forgot about heat - worth putting something in to vent the air. I'm toying with the idea of another tilta-door in the far end so can exit, and open for air movement.

Winston001

30th March 2009, 23:54