Jail rehabilitates and can turn scum into valued members of society.

[Tank]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2301430/Kurariki-charged-with-assaulting-woman

or not:

Bailey Junior Kurariki, the country's youngest convicted killer, is back behind bars charged with assaulting a woman.

Kurariki was arrested in South Auckland yesterday on a charge of assaulting Janie Martin, believed to be his girlfriend.

I hope they put him back in prison - cancel his bail and make him serve the full sentence of his crime that he is bail for as well as this.

Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

[MSTRS]

Yep, like so many others, this guy is a crime just looking for somewhere to happen.

[Swoop]

Surely not!
The media has repeatedly told us that he is a nice young boy who has said "sorry" and been released.
The media wouldn't lie to us would they?:buggerd:

[Mully]

Surely not!
The media has repeatedly told us that he is a nice young boy who has said "sorry" and been released.
The media wouldn't lie to us would they?:buggerd:

Of course not.

I was reading the Sunday paper yesterday, and it said Auckland hospital admissions for children in instances of "deliberate injury" were on the rise. I immediately complained about the shoddy reporting, as we have an Anti-smacking Bill which means kids aren't being abused.

[Genestho]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2301430/Kurariki-charged-with-assaulting-woman

or not:

Bailey Junior Kurariki, the country's youngest convicted killer, is back behind bars charged with assaulting a woman.

Kurariki was arrested in South Auckland yesterday on a charge of assaulting Janie Martin, believed to be his girlfriend.

I hope they put him back in prison - cancel his bail and make him serve the full sentence of his crime that he is bail for as well as this.

Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

Thanks Tank, you reminded me to complete my submission on the bill.
(DONE! Enveloped and ready to send this arvo)

Unfortunately it is "we" that need to keep pushing for this bill to come about.
If we got 30,000 submissions...we will see change.
The beauracrats are open, and have surrounded themselves with people who are listening and open. This time last year, this was not the case.

I'm not an academic, I haven't quoted stats, I have spoken from the heart of what it is like to be affected personally, fear for the future for my kids, and knowing this bill could bring about a certain amount of safety, to all New Zealanders...
This is democracy, and this is a chance to use it.

Submissions due April 24th
Send to:
Committee Secretariat
Law and Order Committee
Parliament Buildings
Wellington
(No stamp required)

[Dooly]

Everytime this bloke is shown on telly now and before he was released, it was always countered with the pizza guy's mum saying the offender was bad and will reoffend, blah, blah, blah etc.

She was right.
And I suspect most folk knew she was.

[nudemetalz]

You know, a Barret M107 .50cal sniper rifle has a max range of 6.8km and an effective range of 1.8kms (as in complete accuracy). That is a long way for someone to setup away from the courts buildings entrances and "pick off" some of these scum that are not needed to live anymore......

[slofox]

He's the latest graduate of the University of Crime...probably enrolled when he was born...

[Mom]

This young man is a waste of oxygen frankly. All that will happen is he will do the time and be out doing more bad shit in no time. Eventually he will die a violent death, for which there will be yet another waste of space culpable and punished by our injustice system.

Pity of it is there appears to be little if anything that will turn him around, too late for him. Is there a prventative detention option for violent criminals?

Lets hope he meets his maker sooner than later.

[Headbanger]

Maybe she was asking for it?




:Oi:

[Her_C4]

No time like the present to make your voice(s) heard....:wari::yes:

http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/index.htm

[Winston001]

I was reading the Sunday paper yesterday, and it said Auckland hospital admissions for children in instances of "deliberate injury" were on the rise. I immediately complained about the shoddy reporting, as we have an Anti-smacking Bill which means kids aren't being abused.

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood. The point about the change to Section 59 is that the parents who do the bashing now have a much harder time defending their actions on the basis of "discipline". It won't stop brutal parents, just as the law against domestic violence and assault doesn't stop that happening.

Sorry - hobby-horse kneejerk. :D

[Winston001]

......Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

The Three Strikes idea is appealing and sings a song in my right-wing heart. But gotta wonder - NZ is a pretty peaceful country, yet we imprison more than the Aussies who aren't exactly tolerant. NZ is second only to the USA in the imprisonment stakes.

Team - summats not right.

[Mully]

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood. The point about the change to Section 59 is that the parents who do the bashing now have a much harder time defending their actions on the basis of "discipline". It won't stop brutal parents, just as the law against domestic violence and assault doesn't stop that happening.

Sorry - hobby-horse kneejerk. :D

No dramas. Personally, I think the defence was based on reasonable force, rather than discipline per se.

At the risk of taking this off topic (mods, feel free to move this if you want) I think a much better idea would have been to have clarified the definition of "reasonable" in "reasonable force". Something along the lines of "an open-handed slap to the legs, buttocks, arms, or hands"

I think Bradford could have had most of country on her side if they'd done that, instead of ramming it down everyone's throats.

Sorry, everyone. As you were.

[Tank]

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood. The point about the change to Section 59 is that the parents who do the bashing now have a much harder time defending their actions on the basis of "discipline". It won't stop brutal parents, just as the law against domestic violence and assault doesn't stop that happening.

Sorry - hobby-horse kneejerk. :D

Like this bloke who flicked his kids ear? : http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/1562476

[Mully]

The Three Strikes idea is appealing and sings a song in my right-wing heart. But gotta wonder - NZ is a pretty peaceful country, yet we imprison more than the Aussies who aren't exactly tolerant. NZ is second only to the USA in the imprisonment stakes.

Team - summats not right.

I agree (I seem to do that a lot to you), something is wrong.

So what can we do with the Kuarikis(sp??) of the country?? I know jail is meant to be about rehabilitation, but can this clown be fixed? At what point do you say "the public has to be protected from this idiot, throw away the key"?

[Indoo]

Like this bloke who flicked his kids ear? : http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/1562476

Why would you hit your own young child in the ear? let alone hard enough that members of the public including a teacher and off-duty cop (whose hardly likely to report anything trivial) would feel it was so excessive as to report it and all for the crime of riding his bike 'dangerously' which probably means a 4 year old wobbling a bit and losing balance. I'm sure if the people who saw it were able to give their opinions to the paper that there would be a much different story described.

"This is how I describe it, hard enough to stop what he was doing, not hard enough to drop him," says Mason."

Yep very restrained that you didn't knock your own son out.

I'm still waiting for all these examples we were promised of decent law abiding parents prosecuted for giving their children a reasonable corrective smack?

[dipshit]

He got a girlfriend..???

That says more about our society than anything. :slap:

[Ocean1]

So what can we do with the Kuarikis(sp??) of the country?? I know jail is meant to be about rehabilitation, but can this clown be fixed? At what point do you say "the public has to be protected from this idiot, throw away the key"?

The Jesuits say, "Give me the child till he's seven and I'll give you the man."

They're right, every seven year old we've failed to teach our rules over the last couple of decades is now a liability.

And no, you can't fix 'em, it's too late.

[Indoo]

HE Flicked the ear - He didnt smack, slap, hit or anything else. At no time did the police accuse him of any of those things.

Ah ok, so the Police have come out publicly and stated that he is only being charged for 'flicking' his son's ear, I can't see that anywhere, I can see it in a self promoting headline aimed to sell stories and manipulate the gullible but I can't see it in any Police statement in that article. You can even take a bit from his own comments, why would you say that you did it hard enough to stop him, not hard enough to 'drop' him if your merely talking about flicking an ear, doesn't really equate.


And just because a off duty police officer saw it means fuck all - he could have been a left wing leaning imbecile.

He could have been as could all the other people who saw and reported it also been left wing 'losers', but by the same measure he could also have been a hard working 'right wing' father who saw some loser giving his kid a hit to the head for the mere crime of being unable to control his bike and thought it was totally over the top and excessive. Personally I would trust the version of independent witnesses's over the person who was charged.

[scumdog]

The Jesuits say, "Give me the child till he's seven and I'll give you the man."

They're right, every seven year old we've failed to teach our rules over the last couple of decades is now a liability.

And no, you can't fix 'em, it's too late.

So, so true.

Like pups you have to start training them the 'proper way' and who's boss right from the get-go.

After the first seven or so years the kid SHOULD be a good type of person.

[SARGE]

You know, a Barret M107 .50cal sniper rifle has a max range of 6.8km and an effective range of 1.8kms (as in complete accuracy). That is a long way for someone to setup away from the courts buildings entrances and "pick off" some of these scum that are not needed to live anymore......

good thing im in Auckland..:done:


Doc can be my spotter...

[Dave Lobster]

You know, a Barret M107 .50cal sniper rifle has a max range of 6.8km and an effective range of 1.8kms (as in complete accuracy). That is a long way for someone to setup away from the courts buildings entrances and "pick off" some of these scum that are not needed to live anymore......

Easier, and cheaper in the long run, to poison the P ingredients as they come into the country, rather than confiscate them.

[ElCoyote]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2301430/Kurariki-charged-with-assaulting-woman

or not:

Bailey Junior Kurariki, the country's youngest convicted killer, is back behind bars charged with assaulting a woman.

Kurariki was arrested in South Auckland yesterday on a charge of assaulting Janie Martin, believed to be his girlfriend.

I hope they put him back in prison - cancel his bail and make him serve the full sentence of his crime that he is bail for as well as this.

Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

And they want his whanau to be in charge of the prisons, I think not. Judith Collins needs a brain transplant methinks.:nono::nono::nono:

[RantyDave]

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood.
Oh shit no, don't start that.

Dave

[RantyDave]

a off duty officer saw my wife on the street in London and thought the child was being abused by the mother due to the scares and blistering on the baby.

Went to the cop shop came back with 2 social workers

Sadly the baby had Epidermolysis Bullosa and the damage done to the skin by the cop and the social workers put the baby in hospital for a long period.
Jesus man, that sounds fucking awful. I hope some arses got kicked over it?

Shit, nasty. Kid OK now?

Dave

[Genestho]

The Three Strikes idea is appealing and sings a song in my right-wing heart. But gotta wonder - NZ is a pretty peaceful country, yet we imprison more than the Aussies who aren't exactly tolerant. NZ is second only to the USA in the imprisonment stakes.

Team - summats not right.
I don't know dude, maybe it's in direct co-relation that we are one of the world leaders in crime here (http://newzealandcrimewatch.blogspot.com/search/label/New%20Zealand%20Crime%20Rates)
(Sorry was going to link the original graph but it's too small)

"Most recidivist offenders begin their offending career between the ages of 10 and 14 years.

Many of them will enter an adult jail between the ages of 15 and 18.

Many of them are Maori.

60% of current inmates were first imprisoned as teenagers.

Once in prison their risk of reconviction and re-imprisonment quadruples.

After prison a teenage offender is released, most to re-offend again. More than half re-offend within 1 year of release, and up to 80-90% re-offend within 5 years." quoted from Matt Robson Dept of Corrections

You can look up all the recidivism, re-conviction and re-imprisonment stats here (http://www.corrections.govt.nz/research.html)

IMHO, I believe if you get tough on crime (appropriately - let's not get silly about it), you're going to reduce the rate of recidivism, and therefore the inprisonment rate, and maybe prevent a murder or 3...

[Skyryder]

The swaggering, spitting, and bullying bravado out on the street: standing in the dock, the epitime of sweetness and innocence.

I'd not only throw away the keys but weld up the door to boot.


Skyyrder

[slofox]

The Jesuits say, "Give me the child till he's seven and I'll give you the man."

They're right, every seven year old we've failed to teach our rules over the last couple of decades is now a liability.

And no, you can't fix 'em, it's too late.


A quarter of a century ago I was a teacher of young primary school children - six and seven year olds mostly.

I observed many different behaviour patterns amongst those kids and I identified many that I thought would "come to no good". I was right in every case that I have been able to keep up with.

When they first come to school at five, there is still a small chance of fixing some of the dysfunctional ones - I saw a few changed forever. But by the time they have reached seven, I do believe it is too late.

One I noted at age six was in jail at 17 for rape. Another killed himself on a motorcycle (strangely enough). And so it goes on. To me anyway, it was obvious. If they are fooked at seven, they are fooked for life.

I daresay there are exceptions. But they are few and far between. They grow up in a dysfunctional environment and they stay in that environment. Without an environmental transplant, they will always drift back, just like the original subject of this thread. Some of them will just have to be caged for life to keep the rest of us safe...

[Her_C4]

A quarter of a century ago I was a teacher of young primary school children - six and seven year olds mostly.

I observed many different behaviour patterns amongst those kids and I identified many that I thought would "come to no good". I was right in every case that I have been able to keep up with.

When they first come to school at five, there is still a small chance of fixing some of the dysfunctional ones - I saw a few changed forever. But by the time they have reached seven, I do believe it is too late.

One I noted at age six was in jail at 17 for rape. Another killed himself on a motorcycle (strangely enough). And so it goes on. To me anyway, it was obvious. If they are fooked at seven, they are fooked for life.

I daresay there are exceptions. But they are few and far between. They grow up in a dysfunctional environment and they stay in that environment. Without an environmental transplant, they will always drift back, just like the original subject of this thread. Some of them will just have to be caged for life to keep the rest of us safe...


The old nature / nurture debate eh? Anyone read this book?

http://www.nzine.co.nz/reviews/lashlie_goodmen.html

[sunhuntin]

A quarter of a century ago I was a teacher of young primary school children - six and seven year olds mostly.

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

[slofox]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

Sounds like urgent need for that "environmental transplant"...

[rosie631]

Kuariki is just rotten. He will never change. Lock him up and throw away the key I say.

[35tickets]

You know, a Barret M107 .50cal sniper rifle has a max range of 6.8km and an effective range of 1.8kms (as in complete accuracy). That is a long way for someone to setup away from the courts buildings entrances and "pick off" some of these scum that are not needed to live anymore......

I couldn't agree more mate:2thumbsup

[Winston001]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker....

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so many times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

I share your frustration but CYFS are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they intervene and it turns out to be a mistake, they get bollocks from Closeup, MPs, media etc, and when they stand back.....children die. Can never win. Don't know but your nephew sounds like a mild case compared with the bad ones CYFS deal with.




I observed many different behaviour patterns amongst those kids and I identified many that I thought would "come to no good". I was right in every case that I have been able to keep up with.

They grow up in a dysfunctional environment and they stay in that environment. Without an environmental transplant, they will always drift back, just like the original subject of this thread. Some of them will just have to be caged for life to keep the rest of us safe...


You've hit the nail on the head. All the good work at attempted rehabilitation by teachers, counsellors, police officers, prison workers etc is lost when young offenders go back home. Until these kids experience a positive and safe place to live, their lives will continue on the downward spiral.

[Skyryder]

So, so true.

Like pups you have to start training them the 'proper way' and who's boss right from the get-go.

After the first seven or so years the kid SHOULD be a good type of person.


Yep agreed. I have always said raising kids is not much different from training the dog.


Rewards for good behavour..........growly grumps for bad.

Ya just gota put in the time.................so many fail to achnowledge this.


Skyryder

[rwh]

Easier, and cheaper in the long run, to poison the P ingredients as they come into the country, rather than confiscate them.

You think killing off everyone with a cold (by poisoning the codral) will solve this? Nice to see some thought going into this ...

Richard

[98tls]

You think killing off everyone with a cold (by poisoning the codral) will solve this? Nice to see some thought going into this ...

Richard Works for me they piss me off with all that sniffing/nose blowing shit.

[rwh]

Works for me they piss me off with all that sniffing/nose blowing shit.

Those are the ones who aren't taking the pseudoephedrine ...

Richard

[Genestho]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

There are now pathological tests that can be voluntarily filled out, as a parent, early childcare teachers have a certain amount of input as I understand it, through daycares and so on, that can and do differenciate early between bad behaviour, behavioural problems, and the pathological alarm bells.
It's a fairly new concept, time will tell if this will head future burtons and bells off at the pass.

[Dave Lobster]

You think killing off everyone with a cold (by poisoning the codral) will solve this? Nice to see some thought going into this ...

Richard

The people taking psuedoblah for a cold don't buy it from someone who crushes several kilos of it to hide about their person/in a crate/etc. with the intention of turning it into P.
Do you really think that the makers of P buy their Contac NT at the local corner shop? Get a grip..

This (http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/customs-seizes-p-ingredients-2561194)is what needs poisoning.

[The Pastor]

just a thought on the title of this thread.

Jail is a punishment, not a rehab center.

Maybe we need a system in place one the person gets out of jail? - maybe it could start while they are in jail.

[98tls]

just a thought on the title of this thread.

Jail is a punishment, not a rehab center.

Maybe we need a system in place one the person gets out of jail? - maybe it could start while they are in jail. Great idea,Auckland would be a great place to kick it off.

[rwh]

Do you really think that the makers of P buy their Contac NT at the local corner shop?
Obviously - otherwise we wouldn't have to present ID to buy it :bleh:


This (http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/customs-seizes-p-ingredients-2561194)is what needs poisoning.

Fair enough. I obviously don't keep up with the news enough. And I'm not a P consumer (or baker).

Incidentally, I wish they didn't quote the street value of the drugs in these cases - it just looks like 'see how much money you can make!'. Instead, they should say something like 'enough to ruin the lives of 300 addicts, and whoever they beat up'. The street value is merely the result of the illegality of the trade.

Richard

[idb]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

Ah...it'll all come right in your town when you get the "H".
You have to prioritise you know...look after the important stuff...

[James Deuce]

There are now pathological tests that can be voluntarily filled out, as a parent, early childcare teachers have a certain amount of input as I understand it, through daycares and so on, that can and do differenciate early between bad behaviour, behavioural problems, and the pathological alarm bells.
It's a fairly new concept, time will tell if this will head future burtons and bells off at the pass.

There's no voluntary component. An early childhood teacher can completely destroy a child's education and cost parents thousands to reverse decisions on the basis of a diagnosis made by a person lacking basic knowledge and qualifications to act as a diagnostician. I often wonder how many of the basket cases like the poor soul in the OP are the direct result of an incorrect or convenient ADHD diagnosis, or simple covert racism.

I have no trust or respect for any education professional as a result of the experiences of the last 5 years, and fully expect to have to spend thousands more making sure my boys aren' destroyed by a system that celebrates violence, supports bullies, and stullifies imagination and genuine thought.

[Maha]

He needs a good raping from Bubba Manu in Cell Block C......:buggerd:

[ghost]

M Laws wrote this a few days ago, weather you like the guy or not its a fairly valid point, not just against the maori party but as the degeneration and wastefull neglect of todays young generation, I hate to think where it will end...

""We're Maori and we support one another all the time ... we are Maori until the day we die. Whanau is whanau." Hone Harawira, MP
THESE WERE the words proffered by the Te Tai Tokerau MP as he entertained the two thugs accused of assaulting broken-armed Prime Minister John Key on Waitangi Day.
In recognition of their outstanding valour, Harawira treated the Popata brothers to lunch at Bellamy's an "up yours" to both the Pakeha establishment and to his party's senior coalition party.
When the media sought censure from his co-leaders Pita Sharples and Tariana Turia, their response was entirely typical. That's just the Maori way, they shrugged. An earlier suggestion of regret melted under the examination.
As it will always be from the Maori Party on any Maori issue that really matters gang membership, child murder, the underclass, incest, criminal offending.
The Maori Party has become an apologist for the excesses of its ethnicity. Rather than accept that there are problems within wider Maori society and that they are self-perpetuating the Maori Party way is to excuse and equivocate. To shift any blame. They have become appeasers of infamy.
This is primarily due to the philosophy espoused by Harawira that whanau is whanau and that all Maori are whanau. Including child abusers, the murderers and rapists, recidivist crims and gang members. Any normal society would cut such recalcitrants adrift and regard them as aberrant.
The Maori Party consider them family.
And yet this is the party that John Key and his ministers are going to be making whoopee with over the next three years. Under the illusion that the Maori Party actually has a tangible aspiration for their people. If so, then that collective aspiration must be to bludge, bash and blame.
But more worrying is the lack of government outcry at Harawira's upraised digit at the prime minister.
If this was United Future's Peter Dunne entertaining some distant Nazi skinhead relatives from Christchurch fresh from taking a swing at Sharples there would be a political conflagration. Especially were Dunne to declare that he regularly attends criminal courts because so many of his rellies end up there. And, y'know, blood is thicker than water, eh. Meanwhile, the real problems continue to march into new infants classes everywhere. A new generation of feral kids who don't recognise their name, don't know how to hold a book or a pencil, don't have any concept of personal hygiene, and don't have a show.
Such were the conclusions from a survey run by Horowhenua mayor Brendan Duffy released last week in association with local primary school principals. Quite why local government should be involving itself in such issues, I do not know. But Duffy is to be praised for doing so: and for publicising the appalling results.
After all, it's his council and his community who are required to deal with the anti-social consequences. Inadequately, as it turns out, because there is no nationwide policy that seeks to identify feral whanau and intervene.
It is the true timebomb that ticks in this country our growing underclass, predominantly brown, transient, illiterate, dirty and diseased. And the diseases are not simply of the Third World, but diseases of mind and spirit.
The decay of drugs, booze and baccy visited daily upon the small children in their supposed care.
We see the ghastly consequences the murdered children, the prison population, the swaggering gang losers. But these are only the more obvious tragedies. So too the children with brains atrophied by their parents' willing ignorance. And imbuing that warped world view upon the next generation.
Which poses the question: do these people understand that they are bad parents? The answer, surely, must be no. They have no immediate reference, no associates, no whanau to suggest otherwise. Their consciousness accepts their lifestyle as normal because it is the only normal that they have ever known.
Then our wider society starts blaming schools and teachers for not turning such stock into solid citizens. Little wonder that so many primary school teachers are disaffected with their careers. They are powerless to alter and influence the lives of these blasted kids that infest their classes. They can only chip at the edges.
Meanwhile, the Maori Party and its ilk play at gesture politics.
They campaign for the meaningless a name change to a city, the opportunity to run their own prisons, entertaining thugs at Bellamy's.
Devolution of government services to Maori has been the official policy since 1985. The belief that whanau know best. Has it made any difference? Has it uplifted Maori? Improved Maori health? Has it arrested the swelling underclass?
Has it given new infant teachers the opportunity to make a difference? Has it heck.
And the Maori Party won't be making any difference soon."

[candor]

NZ has a Pauline Hansen! He spoils some valid things for looking at for improvement by slating everything and hate speech - just like a toddler tantrum.


Under the illusion that the Maori Party actually has a tangible aspiration for their people. If so, then that collective aspiration must be to bludge, bash and blame.

HISTRIONIC AND WRONG

because there is no nationwide policy that seeks to identify feral whanau .... It is the true timebomb that ticks in this country our growing underclass, predominantly brown... transient, illiterate, dirty and diseased. And the diseases are not simply of the Third World, but diseases of mind and spirit.

RACIST HATE SPEECH - the delicious irony of this is his mention somewhere there of what if Peter Dunne lunched with Nazis

We see the ghastly consequences the murdered children, the prison population, the swaggering gang losers. But these are only the more obvious tragedies. So too the children with brains atrophied by their parents' willing ignorance. And imbuing that warped world view upon the next generation.
Which poses the question: do these people understand that they are bad...

NON SEQUITOR - CONNECTING HARAWIRAS LUNCH WITH A COUSIN GUILTY OF LO RISK ASSAULT WITH PROMOTING MURDEROUS VALUES

Meanwhile, the Maori Party and its ilk play at gesture politics.
They campaign for the meaningless a name change to a city, the opportunity to run their own prisons, entertaining thugs at Bellamy's.

WHAT ILL INFORMED HATEFUL CRAP - THE PARTY MPS ALL HAVE LONG HISTORIES OF SIGNIFICANT WORK AND SERVICE THAT DEMONSTRABLY HAS LIFTED COMMUNITIES ASPIRATIONS AND ACHIEVEMENTS

Devolution of government services to Maori has been the official policy since 1985. The belief that whanau know best. Has it made any difference? Has it uplifted Maori? Improved Maori health? Has it arrested the swelling underclass?

YES IT HAS IN MANY CASES - IN CASE LAWS HASN'T NOTICED MANY MAORI ARE DOING BETTER THAN THEIR PREVIOUS GENERATION. WHAT DOES HE WANT A CURE ALL MAGIC WAND

And the Maori Party won't be making any difference soon."

YEAH YOU'RE THE EXPERT LAWS

[firefighter]

The Three Strikes idea is appealing and sings a song in my right-wing heart. But gotta wonder - NZ is a pretty peaceful country, yet we imprison more than the Aussies who aren't exactly tolerant. NZ is second only to the USA in the imprisonment stakes.

Team - summats not right.

Maybe the answer is in your statement? (is N.Z really still the peaceful country it once was?.....really?)

The answer is simple, we have more dickheads breaking the law. That's why the numbers are the way they are.

Yes some places in N.Z are still pretty damn safe, it's the dark areas letting the rest down. Racist statement or not that's the damn truth.

[alanzs]

Like this is any surprise to anyone. Another crim let loose to prey upon the general public. Hopefully, they'll lock him up for a long, long time...