Show us ya pannier racks

[junkmanjoe]

Hi all.
my new pannier bags arived today,
was just wondering if you have made your own racks, or brought of the shelf.
was looking for ideas, and designs, as kiwis can do anything, so show us ya pannier racks...

cheers..JMJ

[awayatc]

Bags?...
I just doubled up the heatshields on my exhausts..
So exhaust ... space...extra heatshield (from logburner)...space...original heatshield.
Works great...no heat on outside shield.
made up bungies with clips to hook onto rearfootpegs and backplate

[buggsubique]

can we amend the title to "Show us yer rack". Never know our luck eh?

[Paladin]

can we amend the title to "Show us yer rack". Never know our luck eh?

Bloody brilliant idea!!!!!!! :banana:

[Box'a'bits]

Nah, agree with Joe on this one. Keenly interested in PANNIER racks at present, given forthcoming rides. Don't really want to run the soft bags against the side panels. Looking at making some myself.

Other racks can wait until I've engineered a solution...:eek::whistle:

Cheers, Steve

[Paladin]

Actually I also need some pannier racks so I can hide the new dents in my exhaust! :whistle:

[Box'a'bits]

And sometimes you can use the racks as crashbars. :doh:

[BMWST?]

junk man joe are you talking hard or soft bags?most seem to be a rectangular portion behind the bag itself,with a mount to the rear footpeg,a mount or two the the rear upper subframe with a bar running around the back of the rear wheel to add further stability.I have been looking at lots of bikes and panniers would be on the wish list.most (except most BMW,s) seem to require a aftermarket bag,but i have found it difficult to find out how the bags mount to the frame.

[Paladin]

And sometimes you can use the racks as crashbars. :doh:

Now why didn't someone tell me that BEFORE I went in Odlins with the Cycleworks pipe on - darn it!!
Hang on a mo, why didn't I put the stock exhaust on before I went in there?

Geez I'm thick sometimes!

:doh:

:stupid:

:crybaby:

[BMWST?]

Now why didn't someone tell me that BEFORE I went in Odlins with the Cycleworks pipe on - darn it!!
Hang on a mo, why didn't I put the stock exhaust on before I went in there?

Geez I'm thick sometimes!

:doh:

:stupid:

:crybaby:
actually cycle works.(is he still on the easter hutt road O would be a guy who could make some racks.He has some experience bending and welding tube!

[Paladin]

actually cycle works.(is he still on the easter hutt road O would be a guy who could make some racks.He has some experience bending and welding tube!

Apparently he is still there (http://cycleworks.co.nz/contact.php)!

[junkmanjoe]

junk man joe are you talking hard or soft bags?most seem to be a rectangular portion behind the bag itself,with a mount to the rear footpeg,a mount or two the the rear upper subframe with a bar running around the back of the rear wheel to add further stability.I have been looking at lots of bikes and panniers would be on the wish list.most (except most BMW,s) seem to require a aftermarket bag,but i have found it difficult to find out how the bags mount to the frame.

hi, there a set of soft oxford bags,
was thinking of makeing a light steel frame,that is easy put on take off....

[junkmanjoe]

Bags?...
I just doubled up the heatshields on my exhausts..
So exhaust ... space...extra heatshield (from logburner)...space...original heatshield.
Works great...no heat on outside shield.
made up bungies with clips to hook onto rearfootpegs and backplate

yea mate its only the pipe side that reaily needs to be looked at,, dont reaily want a big bulky steel bolt on frame, on there

ill look in to your thoughts, thanks.

[junkmanjoe]

Apparently he is still there (http://cycleworks.co.nz/contact.php)!

whats you message to them..

hi paladin here, i just completly fuked my shiney new pipe
do you think you can fix it.......:doh:

[Paladin]

whats you message to them..

hi paladin here, i just completly fuked my shiney new pipe
do you think you can fix it.......:doh:

Exactamundo!!!! :bash:

[Gremlin]

I took a set of sv650 givi pannier racks and got my shop to chop them and custom fit them to my supermoto.

Depends what you want, I find lockable waterproof givi cases fantastic, so all you really need is the plate (or tubular bars) with correct knobs, and the fitting is just subject to each bike...

[junkmanjoe]

Cheers for input Gremlin
just looking for a simple set up, as they wont be on all the time.

[Gremlin]

Ah, mine are permanent, don't need to take them off, even though they aren't used too often. They also serve as good tie down points.

As someone has already said, they can also serve as good crash bars, instead of your expensive cans/tail piece etc. :done:

[junkmanjoe]

yea mate i hear ya,,,,, these boys and there extras,,, all bent and broken... me ole mr factory stock... still stright and shiny.....

wait for it,,,:mad::mad::mad: :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[BMWST?]

yea mate its only the pipe side that reaily needs to be looked at,, dont reaily want a big bulky steel bolt on frame, on there

ill look in to your thoughts, thanks.

i would think a bar behind a soft bag would help prevent it swinging iinto the wheel,and htereby stabilize the whole shootin match

[rhino_343]

Dirtbagz make some real good brackets that can be purchased with or without panniers... I recommend them after doing thousands of k's off road with them. They come for lots of different model dirt/adventure bikes and are made in the USA.

Also check out my mates new pannier business, he is making top quality heavy duty pannier bags that are built to last and torture tested as he regularly drops his bike :Pokey: hahah Seriously though they are top quality and his website is : www.steelpony.com.au they come in different sizes and models for different bikes/purposes and have some unique features! Tell Pete and Loyla that Rhino sent ya and they will look after you!

[marks]

Joe did you see the racks on the KLR? I use oxford soft panniers and they fit the racks well - they are also great for bungying things (like jackets:no:) on.

would be easy(ish) to make your own

** have a look at this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-DR-650-Soft-Bag-Pannier-Racks-DR650_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293 Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZit em170310086168QQitemZ170310086168QQptZMotorcyclesQ 5fPartsQ5fAccessories)for ideas

[pampa]

What rack? I'm told that over here tough people use just a bag


http://proyecto-magoo.com.ar/pablo/Pictures/100-SouthIslandOnG650X-05.01.2009/hakaPass-2008-2009-1024x768.jpg
(South island Haka pass)


Dirtbagz make some real good brackets that can be purchased with or without panniers... I recommend them after doing thousands of k's off road with them. They come for lots of different model dirt/adventure bikes and are made in the USA.

Also check out my mates new pannier business, he is making top quality heavy duty pannier bags that are built to last and torture tested as he regularly drops his bike :Pokey: hahah Seriously though they are top quality and his website is : www.steelpony.com.au they come in different sizes and models for different bikes/purposes and have some unique features! Tell Pete and Loyla that Rhino sent ya and they will look after you!

[hayd3n]

get a plastic fab shop to make you a black 3mm poly prop u bracket (depends where the exhaust is mounted) , and have it so it bungys on to the rear seat ,sit your softies over that,
that way the inside is protected from the dirt ,wheels , etc,

[junkmanjoe]

Joe did you see the racks on the KLR? I use oxford soft panniers and they fit the racks well - they are also great for bungying things (like jackets:no:) on.

would be easy(ish) to make your own

** have a look at this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-DR-650-Soft-Bag-Pannier-Racks-DR650_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293 Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZit em170310086168QQitemZ170310086168QQptZMotorcyclesQ 5fPartsQ5fAccessories)for ideas

thats funny i thought i had you bag bungied on my bike at one stage,,, cauz u left it behind......:rolleyes:
thats a good easy set up..

[cooneyr]

Seek and yee shall find (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44080&highlight=pannier) my home made soft pannier bars for my old DR650. Worked well except I had to add an extra tab to the bar on the RHS at the back to stop the plastic being pushed onto the can. No more issues after that.

Cheers R

[Phreaky Phil]

These were the coolest ones I have made. I used Ortleib cycle panniers. They now make motorcycle ones in either throw over or using there clip on mounts. Sorry , photos not that great when zoomed in that close

[junkmanjoe]

i would think a bar behind a soft bag would help prevent it swinging iinto the wheel,and htereby stabilize the whole shootin match

yes your right,
im thinking of a small frame, same size as back off bags, with eather plastic backing or alloy,, with a joining section between the frames,, whole set up will slide on top off back guard, behind the seat, and under pack rack.
think i need to add a couple pics.. of what i got.
or draw a pic of what im thinking.

[junkmanjoe]

Seek and yee shall find (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=44080&highlight=pannier) my home made soft pannier bars for my old DR650. Worked well except I had to add an extra tab to the bar on the RHS at the back to stop the plastic being pushed onto the can. No more issues after that.

Cheers R

hi nice and simple set up.

my bags will be sit back as far as the indacators, so they will cover the heat sheld on the pipe
i better dig out my 3D program and start working thinks out.

[cooneyr]

hi nice and simple set up.

my bags will be sit back as far as the indacators, so they will cover the heat sheld on the pipe
i better dig out my 3D program and start working thinks out.

It is a good idea to keep the weight as far forward as possible i.e. under you. The location of the bags on the DR mad absolutely no difference to the handling.

Cheers R

[Squiggles]

Ill chuck it out there that im also looking, although not as actively... just incase you decide to buy offshore (share shipping perhaps)

[junkmanjoe]

yip i understand.. i was just trying to ballance things out.

when its fully loaded , ive got a long range safari tank up front+oxford tank bag,
back.
reasonable sized back pack, on pack rack+ the saddle bags.
and me in the middle...

hope my bike doesnt fall in half...

[junkmanjoe]

Ill chuck it out there that im also looking, although not as actively... just incase you decide to buy offshore (share shipping perhaps)

hi there.
im trying to find the best simple design, for soft bags, the can be placed on and off when needed.
once i find the best option for the bike.
ill take the design to the enginer shop and they will make it at a mere 1/4 the shelf price.

if you like the idea, easy to wip up two,
as looks like we got same bikes.
just give you an idea of there work, they made mine and paladins alloy skid plate, made my alloy tank brakets, and mountings.

[Paladin]

.....

hope my bike doesnt fall in half...

Its a DR - it'll be sweet mate! :first:

[junkmanjoe]

mate after what you did to yours,:shit: i dont think i have any thing to worry about.....:laugh::laugh::jerry:

[Paladin]

hi there.
im trying to find the best simple design, for soft bags, the can be placed on and off when needed.
once i find the best option for the bike.
ill take the design to the enginer shop and they will make it at a mere 1/4 the shelf price.

if you like the idea, easy to wip up two,
as looks like we got same bikes.
just give you an idea of there work, they made mine and paladins alloy skid plate, made my alloy tank brakets, and mountings.

If this looks good I might be up for ordering one too Joe, money allowing. Your mate certainly made great skid plates for us, I'm well impressed!

[Paladin]

mate after what you did to yours,:shit: i dont think i have any thing to worry about.....:laugh::laugh::jerry:

Yeah kinda lucky for me DR's are pretty resilient to punishment! :shit:

Still can't believe the tank is blemish free - how did I manage to not scratch it at least with that whole bike flip episode?
Stop Dave - mustn't tempt fate! :shutup:

[Underground]

I made as near a copy to these http://www.andystrapz.com/ (i used to do that stuff in a previous life) and bent up some stainless rod , about 8mm I think and welded with ss electrodes . un ob trusive and effective as it keeps the bags off the hot an moving bits.
I think the canvas ones are more forgiving in an arse off and I can carry a couple of doz cans in each side

[junkmanjoe]

I made as near a copy to these http://www.andystrapz.com/ (i used to do that stuff in a previous life) and bent up some stainless rod , about 8mm I think and welded with ss electrodes . un ob trusive and effective as it keeps the bags off the hot an moving bits.
I think the canvas ones are more forgiving in an arse off and I can carry a couple of doz cans in each side

exelant info mate...
there ones are simple designs, a little mods on them and could be getting close.

cheers .

[Oscar]

Hi all.
my new pannier bags arived today,
was just wondering if you have made your own racks, or brought of the shelf.
was looking for ideas, and designs, as kiwis can do anything, so show us ya pannier racks...

cheers..JMJ

I bought the Givi racks.
At $195-odd they were cheap enough and offered great crash protection.

[junkmanjoe]

heres my set up to date,, as you can see, my bag is right on top of me pipe...:Oops:

[Paladin]

heres my set up to date,, as you can see, my bag is right on top of me pipe...:Oops:

Ooh ALERT - FIRE HAZARD!!!!!!!

:Police:

[Hitcher]

Here's a good shot of Pania's rack.

http://birddogsprofits.com/pania_anz.jpg

[Paladin]

Here's a good shot of Pania's rack.



I think a bigger rack would be of more use! :msn-wink:

[pete376403]

I made these for the KLR but wouldn't be too hard to make something similar for the DR - square tube frame, attaches to pillion footrest mount and standard rack, bags are cheap knock-offs of Pelicans, bought from Bunnings $99 each. The bags attach to the racks at the bottom with two capscres through a keyhole slot, and at the top with R clips. The right side one took a minor spill without damage and it kept the resto of the bike clear of the ground

[junkmanjoe]

thats for your info, looks like a easy set up, cheers mate.

[LBD]

Had a rack but found it was not necessary with the saddle bags. They just sat there real nice like and did not detract from the look...

[Box'a'bits]

Did you see the pannier rails on this DR? Similar to the Andy Strapz ideas. Wonder if this is a Ventura off the shelf product? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Panniers-luggage/auction-210781840.htm.

[junkmanjoe]

hi steve
yip been talking to this chap.
he only just sold them, but ive got the photos of them, there not to bad aye.

did you see the link for the KTM ones to fit your bike, they looked good as well.

i made a few wire frame ideas today, just nutting out a few ideas.

will have to get it sorted before the KCR

are you joing us on sunday for a play.

JMJ

[Box'a'bits]

Welll, last weekend was our wedding anniversary, BUT the mother-in-law came for a visit & disrupted plans. This weekend we've packed katherine off to MASTERTON, so I'm under pressure to stay here & do some things with my wife. :eek:

..............So thats a definite maybe then.... I've asked her nicely but...........

Did see the KTM racks & yes, has definitely sparked some ideas. Not so good at tube bending though (the last few attempts collapsed). Not keen on the weight of bar.

Cheers

Steve

[Underground]

You can get a few ideas off this site too http://www.dbzproducts.com/

[Transalper]

You'll have to do something to protect the back of the right side panel before you go anywhere with bags, wether its a rack or just a supporting bar. Seen a few examples of melted side cover from those who just hung throw overs on with out any prep.
On my DR I just copied the bar that Farque had on his old DR to stop the pipe and panel meeting under the weight of the bags. The throw overs might still scuff the plastic a little on long bumpy dusty trips, but my panels already look used so I never worried about it.
There was a discussion on the topic a few years ago. Might take a bit of searching to find though.

[junkmanjoe]

Hi Transalper

yip both sides will end up with a backing plate frame of some sort.
i just need to figer out what i like and will take it down to the alloy guys and they will wip it up.

there good like that.

[junkmanjoe]

Did see the KTM racks & yes, has definitely sparked some ideas. Not so good at tube bending though (the last few attempts collapsed). Not keen on the weight of bar.

Cheers

Steve[/QUOTE]

yip think im going to go with alloy bars, backing plate,
lighter, may not be as strong, but not planing to fall off...

[johannvr]

Did you see the pannier rails on this DR? Similar to the Andy Strapz ideas. Wonder if this is a Ventura off the shelf product? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Panniers-luggage/auction-210781840.htm.

Happen to know the owner of that DR. Those were home-made by him, copied off mine which was on my DR when I bought it. Ventura sticker added to make them look like a pro job ... worked by the looks of it.

Haven't got pics of mine with me at the mo - will take some this arvo & stick them on here. Stays on permanently & the copied set was easy to make according to him.

[BMWST?]

Hi Transalper

yip both sides will end up with a backing plate frame of some sort.
i just need to figer out what i like and will take it down to the alloy guys and they will wip it up.

there good like that.

not sure alloy is the best for this job....I guess they arent actually taking any weight so could be cool.My 2 c any way:2thumbsup

[merv]

Did you see the ones Bartman10 made for himself and Fraggle before their Russia trip http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=39661

[junkmanjoe]

ill keep them simple.

[johannvr]

The pics that I promised ... better late than never. Work got in teh way as usual :bash:

[johannvr]

more ... the right-hand side this time

[junkmanjoe]

cheers mate.

they look good.
id like move them back a little more, so me and bike, be off to the metal man in the morn to see what he can do.

thanks every one for help and pics.
ive put all info togeather, and have come up with a design im happy with.
will post up pics when completed.

JMJ

[junkmanjoe]

just got a price from the alloy shop,

both sides made from alloy or light steel. $250.00

waiting for a quote, from a couple other trades persons,
before i give the go....

[blackballs]

I have just finished a new bottom guide for my soft bags, It is made from 16mm stainless tube, I made a prototype first from wire and then used hand benders to shape, there is a 50mm flat bar running down from the sub frame at the back, the soft bags have a top clip system that I clip onto the grab handles at the rear. they are cycle panniers:msn-wink:

[blackballs]

i'll post some better pic's the combination of crap light and cellphone is not the best mix

[junkmanjoe]

ok prices were to much for me to pay for some one to build my racks for me.
prices from $250 up to $375.

so i brought the steel my self.
4 meters 10mm smooth round.
1m 40mm x 3mm flat plate.

total cost $23.

headed off to my brothers to day to use he gear. it still needs final clean up, paint and refitting, before finished.
i moved the bike tool container out from under the guard, so its a bit more easy to get to.
i left aprox 2omm clearance between pipe and bag, didnt get hot on way home tonight. so happy with that.
over all im happy with whats come out of the afternoons work.

aprox 4 hrs work, can be removed easy enough.

thanks heaps for all who added there pics and thought to this thread.

[junkmanjoe]

will give them a paint and final tidy in the morn.

[Box'a'bits]

Okay, you've set the bar. :niceone:
Now I'll have to see what I can bodge (I mean craft).

[junkmanjoe]

the weilds are not perfect, the mig ran out off gas, so had to use the old arc. stone age man.... sparkes and shit blowing every where.

[marks]

be honest
these arent pannier racks...

they're crash bars.

actually they look really good.

[junkmanjoe]

desgined for just incase, oh shit lucky they were there.....

[Paladin]

They look great mate!

:wari:

[junkmanjoe]

once ive drown them in black paint, will look better.
right i better get out to the garage, and get on to it....

[Box'a'bits]

Here's mine, made from mild steel 12.7mm x 2.0mm tube. All welded up, but not yet painted. :woohoo:. Not bad for V1.0 (discounting the early attempt with thin wall tube). Spot the deliberate mistakes though.

Steve

[junkmanjoe]

top job mate, end of the day, save ya a packed on off the shelf models.
be good if you could match the bike colour when ya paint them.

[Box'a'bits]

top job mate, end of the day, save ya a packed on off the shelf models.
be good if you could match the bike colour when ya paint them.

Considering it. Have a silver epoxy in the garage. But black would blend in better, especially against the side covers. The other important consideration is that black will limit how much the birdshit welding stands out....

[junkmanjoe]

mate be no worse than mine,

[Box'a'bits]

top job mate, end of the day, save ya a packed on off the shelf models.
be good if you could match the bike colour when ya paint them.

The other aspect is that I enjoyed fabricating them. But wasn't as cheap as I thought initially. I'd say the $250 quote you got earlier would be on the money (or even cheap) if you included all materials & time.

[BMWST?]

ok prices were to much for me to pay for some one to build my racks for me.
prices from $250 up to $375.

so i brought the steel my self.
4 meters 10mm smooth round.
1m 40mm x 3mm flat plate.

total cost $23.

headed off to my brothers to day to use he gear. it still needs final clean up, paint and refitting, before finished.
i moved the bike tool container out from under the guard, so its a bit more easy to get to.
i left aprox 2omm clearance between pipe and bag, didnt get hot on way home tonight. so happy with that.
over all im happy with whats come out of the afternoons work.

aprox 4 hrs work, can be removed easy enough.

thanks heaps for all who added there pics and thought to this thread.

I hope you can lift the bike with them,cos the first guy to help you pick your bike up(does that happen?) will grab those nice tubes!

[junkmanjoe]

yip there good to lift off,
i picked up back of bike off the ground no troubles, there more crash bars really.
built to last.

[BMWST?]

yip there good to lift off,
i picked up back of bike off the ground no troubles, there more crash bars really.
built to last.

nice..stupid 10 chars

[goodvibes]

Really good efforts. Been given some soft panniers so will look to make supports that sit out over plastics and exhaust.

Won't have any ready for the Cold Kiwi. Getting by though.

I can't weld so I'll be paying for some.

...but I have thought about bolting a box section alumium section to space out over exhaust, 3mm plate rectangle to support pannier, u bracket onto frame to support rectangle....I'll be running it past an engineer....:cool:

[junkmanjoe]

I gave goodvibes a PM other day and said i had a spare set of pannier racks i had wiped up for a trip north, and welcome to come over and see if there any good.

goodvibes came over for a visit and we set about fitting the racks,, they might as well been made for the bike, and fitted in like a glove...

i also had a spare venture travel bag,,, and that also left for wellington the same day...so over all one happy adventure, with rack and bag on board...

my pleasure to help you out, and hope to see you on the gravel one day..

JMJ