View Full Version : There's arseholes, then there are Real arseholes
dpex
31st March 2009, 18:07
Came to do a right out of a road which various, quite clear signs assert NO RITGH TURN INTO. And so, stupidly, I presumed my left was safe. Busy highway.
Started the jump between the right-handers coming along and found myself staring at a tit-cager turning right, straight into me.
We both jammed on the anchors. But me? I was half into a steep right-hander. Bike was down at maybe 40 degrees. Uho! Too much weight for me to pull upright, so I gently laid Zimmerframe on the ground and then this cunt swept past yelling, 'Ya fuckin' moron!'
Did he stop to help me get zimmer back on her wheels? Oh no! Just a dick with an attitude, who'd just thought 'Fuck the rules. I exist, therefore I have a right to do whatever the fuck I want.'
Anyway, so there I was, remembering the so many times I've heaved Zimmer upright on the track, and there's all these fucking cagers blowing their horns. Like, 'Get ya issues off the fucking road, man!'
Did anyone stop to help me heave Zimmer up?
Nup!
Fuck Auckland and all of it's sad-arsed communters.
Give me the Country-folk every time.
What a shit of a place to live when cagers do as described. Like it wasn't rush hour. It was two in the afternoon!
R6_kid
31st March 2009, 18:09
Came to do a right out of a road which various, quite clear signs assert NO RITGH TURN INTO. And so, stupidly, I presumed my left was safe. Busy highway.
Started the jump between the right-handers coming along and found myself staring at a tit-cager turning right, straight into me.
Theres your problem!
dpex
31st March 2009, 18:15
Theres your problem!
Yeah. I won't make that mistake again.
But what a bunch of fucks! Zimmer was laying on the ground. An old fuck was clearly trying to get her upright. She's a heavy bike. They didn't know if I'd had an accident, or a fucking heart attack.
Did they stop to help, or even ask? Nup. Just blew the horns saying, 'Get your issues off my bit of road.'
Katman
31st March 2009, 18:18
And the likes of McJim will still claim that the public love motorcyclists.
kave
31st March 2009, 18:20
Whereabouts in Auckland were you? I have had a similar experience when I crashed in Mt Wellington, but when I binned in Remuera (in rush-hour) everyone was really considerate and helpful. I don't think you can treat Auckland as one area, it all depends on where you are.
Ixion
31st March 2009, 18:22
The public in this case would have behaved EXACTLY the same if it had been a little white haired old lady lying on the road having a heart attack. ('cept maybe they'd have stopped and stolen her purse)
Cunts is cunts they just hate and abuse everybody. Nothing special about motorcyclists.
Your mistake is you assume arseholery is directed at us because we are motorcyclists. It's not, the arseholes hate and abuse everybody .
Hiflyer
31st March 2009, 18:23
Whereabouts in Auckland were you? I have had a similar experience when I crashed in Mt Wellington, but when I binned in Remuera (in rush-hour) everyone was really considerate and helpful. I don't think you can treat Auckland as one area, it all depends on where you are.
lucky for you! people around mt hobson were most unhelpful when my bike wouldnt jump start. even bikers just rode past
Katman
31st March 2009, 18:24
The public in this case would have behaved EXACTLY the same if it had been a little white haired old lady lying on the road having a heart attack.
You don't seriously believe that, do you?
Ixion
31st March 2009, 18:27
Yes . There's far more cunts hate the world in general than hate motorcylists specifically. I've found plenty that have a huge chip on their shoulder against EVERYTHING, very few that have a genuine hatred of bikers and bikers only .
awayatc
31st March 2009, 18:27
dorklanders......
I feel for ya..
Just to put it into perspective:
This morning I pulled over just out of Hawera....to check cellphone, stretch my legs, count my tyres etc.
Young man in cage turns around stops and asks ' you ll right mate?"
Yes I am, thanks very much for asking....
It helped make my day..
Oh, and I do believe Karma exists.....
So don't worry mate,
It will all come out in the wash.....
Dorkland......
No thanks
Patch
31st March 2009, 18:31
Best you look and never ever assume anything.
Never expect anything from anybody and you will never be disappointed.
Size does matter - unfortunately.
PirateJafa
31st March 2009, 18:33
And the likes of McJim will still claim that the public love motorcyclists.
And you think that they would rush out of their cars to hand cake and flowers to someone who has, say, stalled their car in the middle of the road like Dpex was?
You naive man you.
Katman
31st March 2009, 18:37
You naive man you.
I've been called a lot of things - but that's a new one.
:wacko:
Hiflyer
31st March 2009, 18:39
Dorkland......
No thanks
civilisation, yes please :2guns: :laugh:
haha but i do think that people would stop to help an old lady and not steal her purse, just depends what area of auckland you are in:Police:
dorklanders......
I feel for ya..
Just to put it into perspective:
This morning I pulled over just out of Hawera....to check cellphone, stretch my legs, count my tyres etc.
Young man in cage turns around stops and asks ' you ll right mate?"
Yes I am, thanks very much for asking....
It helped make my day..
Oh, and I do believe Karma exists.....
So don't worry mate,
It will all come out in the wash.....
Dorkland......
No thanks
oh and we do get people stopping and asking if your alright in auckland. they just choose to be hidden, like smart blondes and UFO's (you hear about them but never see them)
awayatc
31st March 2009, 18:42
And you think that they would rush out of their cars to hand cake and flowers to someone who has, say, stalled their car in the middle of the road like Dpex was?
You naive man you.
How come people came and pushed my(very heavy) landrover out of the way when it broke down recently?
Unasked for even....
Mind you I myself stop ALWAYS to help bikes/cages in need....
Karma?
discotex
31st March 2009, 18:45
You don't seriously believe that, do you?
I do. I've watched people blissfully ignore plenty of cage drives in need.
It's just big city life mate not evidence of anything more. People will be either too shy to go help or assume he's got it under control.
Nothing to do with being it a bike. Only someone with a rather weird lens-view of the world would see otherwise.
98tls
31st March 2009, 18:46
:clap::killingme:killingme Yep KB for sure,someone falls off his bike (not exactly a first is it) and the planet doesnt stop revolving to help:doh:(not exactly a first) and suddenly the worlds full of cunts that hate grandmothers.<_<Sorry for your off (to the poster of the thread) and glad you came out ok.
Katman
31st March 2009, 18:49
I do. I've watched people blissfully ignore plenty of cage drives in need.
Go back and read the post. Ixions statement was about an old white haired lady lying on the road having a heart attack. It didn't say anything about a 'cage driver'.
PirateJafa
31st March 2009, 18:51
How come people came and pushed my(very heavy) landrover out of the way when it broke down recently?
Unasked for even....
Mind you I myself stop ALWAYS to help bikes/cages in need....
I myself stopped for a chap pushing a RS125 on Saturday. But I know, unfortunately, that people willing to stop are few and far between.
Just makes you appreciate those that do all the more.
newbould
31st March 2009, 18:58
Mind you I myself stop ALWAYS to help bikes/cages in need....
Karma?[/QUOTE]
Maybe Karma but I reckon it just helps. You feel better for offering. Like the scoot I pulled along side and pointed out indicator on for the last 2 k's. Same goes for waving a thanks to a driver who spotted you when you thought they could easily pull out into you. Can only make the world better 1 interaction at a time
discotex
31st March 2009, 18:58
Go back and read the post. Ixions statement was about an old white haired lady lying on the road having a heart attack. It didn't say anything about a 'cage driver'.
I read it first the right time :)
Let me introduce you to hyperbole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole)
jtzzr
31st March 2009, 19:27
Unfortunately us Aucklanders get pigeon-holed as arseholes, not true.
Actually most Aucklanders are good fuckers, well the ones Iv`e met, and would stop and help anyone. I have met some aresholes too.(FUCK them I say),lifes to short.
It`s the one rotten apple scenario.
MsKABC
31st March 2009, 19:27
Fuck Auckland and all of it's sad-arsed communters.
Give me the Country-folk every time.
What a shit of a place to live when cagers do as described. Like it wasn't rush hour. It was two in the afternoon!
About 2 months ago I was unfortunate enough to break down in the fast lane on the motorway, towing a trailer, at the beginning of rush hour. A bloke who was travelling literally right next to me, saw that I was in trouble, and immediately pulled over in front of me and got out to help. He towed me off to the side whilst the police (who turned up just a couple of minutes later) set up a rolling block.
It's not Aucklanders, it's humans. Some are good, some are bad. The faster pace of life in Auckland and the number of motorists on the road lead us toward anonymity and apathy.
Or maybe I'm just prettier than you, who knows?
98tls
31st March 2009, 19:30
It's not Aucklanders, it's humans. Some are good, some are bad. The faster pace of life in Auckland and the number of motorists on the road lead us toward anonymity and apathy.
Or maybe I'm just prettier than you, who knows? :eek5:Theres humans in Auckland?:beer:
awayatc
31st March 2009, 19:34
Or maybe I'm just prettier than you, who knows?
Even the rear end of a donkey achieves that......
Forest
31st March 2009, 19:36
Anyway, so there I was, remembering the so many times I've heaved Zimmer upright on the track, and there's all these fucking cagers blowing their horns. Like, 'Get ya issues off the fucking road, man!'
Did anyone stop to help me heave Zimmer up?
Nup!
It's an accident site.
If it isn't safe to move your bike, then leave it where it lays and let the cars blow their horns to their heart's content.
MsKABC
31st March 2009, 19:39
:eek5:Theres humans in Auckland?:beer:
...and Australians too!
Even the rear end of a donkey achieves that......
Don't be an ass. :2thumbsup
PrincessBandit
31st March 2009, 19:40
Unfortunately us Dorklanders get a bad rap from all the fuckwits that live in our city. When I had my accident a fortnight ago several cars all stopped for me to help move my bike, check I was ok, call the police etc.
Rude, selfish and uncaring people exist everywhere. Our population base just means that we're more likely to have a greater share of them, and if you're from outta-town you're more likely to notice them more than we do.
98tls
31st March 2009, 19:43
...and Australians too!
Don't be an ass. :2thumbsup I love Auckland,the fact that 1.3 odd millon live there means they dont live down here.:shifty:Besides that methinks the transition from there to death would be unnoticable.:doh:
MsKABC
31st March 2009, 19:45
I love Auckland,the fact that 1.3 odd millon live there means they dont live down here.:shifty:Besides that methinks the transition from there to death would be unnoticable.:doh:
I'm not offended by that, because I don't consider myself to be an Aucklander ;)
98tls
31st March 2009, 19:47
I'm not offended by that, because I don't consider myself to be an Aucklander ;) No offence intended.
carver
31st March 2009, 19:54
Most bins wins.
you should have just hit him!
dpex
31st March 2009, 20:03
People...It all just felt like shit, mainly because I cherish the ideal that NZ is just a bit better than anywhere else on earth.
But there's me with team zimmeframe, on the ground. Like me and bike look like we've been in a crash of some sort.
I mean, I know how to pick up my bike. God knows I have enough experience at it on the track.
And I can.
But the rest don't know I can.
There's zimmer, laying down in the middle of a main highway, and his ageing owner humping his back to lift her upright, and what do we get?
'GET OUTA MY FUCKIN' WAY MAN!'
I can cope with getting old zimmer up, but the attitude of the passers-by?
Is this the NZ we all cheer?
tigertim20
31st March 2009, 20:22
well you got two option I guess, either get over it, or note his plate number, get his address and spraypaint kiddyfucker along the side of his car. I know what Id do. and ill give you a hint. im an angry person. I have a habbit of following people that take that attitude, and those people lose wing mirrors. god bless splitting. fortunately down this way there seem to be not many arseholes on the road
Okey Dokey
31st March 2009, 20:44
Yes, dpex , the attitude sucks. I, a weak female, would stop- but maybe only for moral support and a sad effort to help you lift your bike and see if you are okay.
From what I have read of Auckland here in kb, your experience is all too common. I think it is typical of big cities all over and not just Auckland. However, I think a lot of big cities in the world have heaps more to offer than Auckland does in compensation.
madbikeboy
31st March 2009, 20:45
People...It all just felt like shit, mainly because I cherish the ideal that NZ is just a bit better than anywhere else on earth.
But there's me with team zimmeframe, on the ground. Like me and bike look like we've been in a crash of some sort.
I mean, I know how to pick up my bike. God knows I have enough experience at it on the track.
And I can.
But the rest don't know I can.
There's zimmer, laying down in the middle of a main highway, and his ageing owner humping his back to lift her upright, and what do we get?
'GET OUTA MY FUCKIN' WAY MAN!'
I can cope with getting old zimmer up, but the attitude of the passers-by?
Is this the NZ we all cheer?
No, it's not.
And it hasn't been for a while.
It makes me sad, I've reduced my salary by about 50% to live here in God's Own. I find that I like so few people here, and for the most part, my worst expectation of people's behaviour is exceeded. It's not safe anymore, and no one gives a fuck. So many people here are out to fuck another. On the bike and on the motorcycle, you get a candid view of the personality of a country - I've stopped riding the pushie, and I'm teetering on the brink of getting off scoot. I rediscover riding and life when I'm offshore, and I no longer feel homesick on extended excursions.
I kind of feel that the biker community is the last one that I have a connection with, and I prefer the company of bikers to most. I feel it's us versus them on the road, any misconception of egalitarian mythology must be dismissed.
Ixion
31st March 2009, 20:52
From what I have read of Auckland here in kb, your experience is all too common.
And yet, I have had , many many times, people stop and ask if I need help, when I've just been looking at a map, checking fuel, watching a hedgehog, that sort of thing. And on occasion people put themselves to considerable trouble to assist me.
There's good folk, and bad, in Auckland as everywhere else. And you'll meet just the same proportion of both good and bad in a car as on a motorbike.
Slyer
31st March 2009, 20:58
Stop your bitching you lot.
There's a lot of kindness out there, just because you don't always find it doesn't mean it isn't there, you're going to get snobby people wherever you go.
I've been asked if I need help/fuel or whatever help on many occasions, often from people you would not have expected. I've never actually needed the help, even when I was walking along the road carrying a jerry can, but I always appreciate it.
"Cheers mate, I've only got another 100 metres to walk but thanks, really appreciate it."
Dpex, to be honest, you sound like a bit of a wanker to me.
Lighten up you angsty bastard.
98tls
31st March 2009, 21:04
Yes, dpex , the attitude sucks. I, a weak female, would stop- but maybe only for moral support and a sad effort to help you lift your bike and see if you are okay.
From what I have read of Auckland here in kb, your experience is all too common. I think it is typical of big cities all over and not just Auckland. However, I think a lot of big cities in the world have heaps more to offer than Auckland does in compensation. Funny how well Auckland and compensation go together.:2thumbsupMaybe compensations the Maori way of spelling Auckland.
PirateJafa
31st March 2009, 21:06
To be honest, you tend to find help where you least expect it.
Squiggles and myself were on our way on the far outskirts of Auckland last year, around about midnight searching for a biker who needed a tow from Karaka. We were cruising along in the car with a empty trailer, when we got some better directions via text message, so had to turn around. Due to the gap between the hi- and low-beams, we ended up doing the u-turn not on the large gravel patch further on, or closer to us, but into the large patch of rutted mud between the two. In a front-wheel drive sedan with a trailer, we were pretty well fooked.
Every "nice/average" car that went past ignored our hazard lights/waves for help. Then finally, a boyracer'd car - some cheap jap car with white unpainted body kits fitted and mismatching coloured panels - with two big islanders in pulled up next to us two little white boys, and offered to tow us out.
Without those two blokes, we'd have been stuck there for a long while. And so would the biker we were meant to be picking up. ><
People are people everywhere. Unfortunately, so are judgemental stereotyping twats.
Blackshear
31st March 2009, 21:16
FUck dude, sucks to hear so many limp wristed sods too goddamn lazy to get out of the car and help! If they're effin tooting, HELP THE GODDAMN GUY TO HIS FEET!!!
FArk me.
Only time I fell down at low speed, was carrying a pizza box on the tank - no restraints - and dropped the bike in favour of the pizza at the roundabout :lol: Some ahem, medicinally smelling lads helped me to my feet, and the bike. On one condition. They could have all the pieces lying on the road :Punk:
What the hell do you do in your situation out of spite, that doesn't involve volatile liquids and stones? Seriously. How about walking over and asking if someone can help :pinch: Takes up another good minute :whistle:
Insanity_rules
31st March 2009, 21:17
You get f@rkwits everywhere. When I had my accident the cager who caused it did a runner and about a dozen or so cars who saw me on my side didn't even stop. Auckland doesn't own the rights mate.
I myself stop for bikers.
HungusMaximist
31st March 2009, 21:42
You get dicks everywhere, but like Jafa said it's best not to stereotype them into a certain category.
One late evening in Melbourne city I started up my Hobag GT250 while it was still parked in gear, so it surged forward and down it fell. As soon as I got down to pick it up from the side of the road, a white car drives by and 2 good young cunts jumps outta their mates car and helps my bike up. They then quickly jumped back into their car and fucked off as quickly as they arrived.
I am just glad they helped.
Ragingrob
31st March 2009, 22:02
Huh? You were turning right into traffic coming from your left? And you didn't look to your left?
Or have I read that wrong??!!
Ragingrob
31st March 2009, 22:06
And how many bikers would stop for a car broken down on the motorway that we see while we're happily lane-splitting through the stopped traffic?
zzzbang
31st March 2009, 22:07
the ideal that NZ is just a bit better than anywhere else on earth.
that will always just be a dream lol.
Ixion
31st March 2009, 22:11
And how many bikers would stop for a car broken down on the motorway that we see while we're happily lane-splitting through the stopped traffic?
I stop for cars in trouble. Not always (bikes always) depends on whether it looks like they need help or not. Stopped to help a guy in a van with a flat tyre t'other day, he was an old guy , I figure y' can't leave an old bugger stranded. Changed the wheel, no big deal.
What goes round, comes round.
JohnR
31st March 2009, 23:05
How come people came and pushed my(very heavy) landrover out of the way when it broke down recently?
Unasked for even....
Mind you I myself stop ALWAYS to help bikes/cages in need....
Karma?
Two words...ulterior motive. You were probably holding them up!
carver
1st April 2009, 05:45
Yes, dpex , the attitude sucks. I, a weak female, would stop- but maybe only for moral support and a sad effort to help you lift your bike and see if you are okay.
From what I have read of Auckland here in kb, your experience is all too common. I think it is typical of big cities all over and not just Auckland. However, I think a lot of big cities in the world have heaps more to offer than Auckland does in compensation.
There is the start of your problems
female......
discotex
1st April 2009, 06:23
However, I think a lot of big cities in the world have heaps more to offer than Auckland does in compensation.
Apparently there are only 4 other cities are better to live in....
http://www.citymayors.com/features/quality_survey.html
Hazza
1st April 2009, 09:29
I Know this doesn't help you much, But there are plenty of good people willing to help down here in Wellington.
I was on my way to work November last year gave my bike some stic of the lights out of Lower Hutt and my throttle cable snapped so which Left me stuck on the side of the Motorway in peek hour traffic.
So many people stopped and offered to help, I counted at least 20 Bikes and 3 cars i was there for a good hour or so. It just so happens an old mate of mine In his work ute was going past recognized me and gave me and the bike a ride home.
MarkH
1st April 2009, 10:05
Almost a dozen years ago I moved up to Auckland from the Waikato. I was born in Matamata and lived in the Waikato for the first 30 years of my life. On the negatives side: Auckland is crowded with a lot of traffic to contend with and rent is pretty expensive. On the positive side: there are many good buggers living here so I have made many friends, lots of shops to choose from, plenty of bikes around the place, and best of all the torturous job of travelling by car in heavy traffic was enough to get me back to riding a bike after 20 years of being stuck in a cage!
I have been stopped at the lights in Mt Wellington when several car drivers leaped from their cars to help push a stalled car clear of the intersection. Many people will quickly rush to the aid of others, even here in Auckland.
Then there is the enormous amount of pleasure to be gotten from riding a bike on the motorway between lanes of stationary cars, that would put a grin on anyone's face!
All in all Auckland is a great place, as long as you are not trying to travel by car in peak traffic, of course!
sinfull
1st April 2009, 10:21
.
There's zimmer, laying down in the middle of a main highway, and his ageing owner humping his back to lift her upright, and what do we get?
?
Have to ask Mate, how would they have known you to be aged ?
Oh and with regards to road riding ! Who'd want it ?
Never got tooted at on the track now did ya ?
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