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munterk6
31st March 2009, 22:38
I pulled in to a BP the other morning to fill the GSXR and as per usual, I popped the gas cap whilst still sitting on the bike (obviously to pack as much in as poss) and grabbed the pump and proceeded to fill...there was a short squirt of gas, then nothing.
I looked at the attendant in his cage and he got on the speaker "Please get off the bike before you fill it"
I closed the cap and rode off to the next gas station.
Does anyone know if this is BP stations only that have this rule?
I have never been asked to get off before.....why? Safety reasons?
Safety shmafety!! I have never heard of any bike catching fire at a servo.
I reckon they have "Hitler training" going on. What do you lot reckon?

EJK
31st March 2009, 22:43
Mostly safety reason. Also if you accidentally drip some, it will flow down down down and it's not good for your manly part...

Yea, mostly safety reason. Also some might accidentally drop the bike (e.g. the classic folded side stand incident) and it'll make alot of mess. It happened once while I was working at BP station.

Whynot
31st March 2009, 22:46
Ahh, but did you remove your helmet? :eek:

Anarkist
31st March 2009, 22:49
Static charges caused by discharging on bare metal have started many petrol station fires. I suppose there's a remote chance of not being earthed while on the bike but then touching the metal of the pump handle or something similar.

Also, there's more chance of you dropping the bike if you're sitting on it than when it's on it's stand.

Technically the small amount of petrol you rode off without paying for was theft too, unless it was just the backwash from the last person who hung it up without pouring out what was in the nozzle first.

It doesn't make a huge amount of difference whether you're sitting on the bike or not as to how much you get in the tank. Seriously, you might get what? Another dollar or two extra which equates to another 10-15km? Surely you wouldn't run that close to your reserves unless you were doing some long trip or had a set destination that you could travel perfectly 'x' number of times on a perfectly full tank.

pzkpfw
31st March 2009, 22:52
Did you wave at him?

Ragingrob
31st March 2009, 22:52
Yep I see on many gas stations signs for no sitting on bikes while fuelling along with the usual no mobile signs etc.

grusomhat
31st March 2009, 22:56
Static charges caused by discharging on bare metal have started many petrol station fires. I suppose there's a remote chance of not being earthed while on the bike but then touching the metal of the pump handle or something similar.

Also, there's more chance of you dropping the bike if you're sitting on it than when it's on it's stand.

Technically the small amount of petrol you rode off without paying for was theft too, unless it was just the backwash from the last person who hung it up without pouring out what was in the nozzle first.

It doesn't make a huge amount of difference whether you're sitting on the bike or not as to how much you get in the tank. Seriously, you might get what? Another dollar or two extra which equates to another 10-15km? Surely you wouldn't run that close to your reserves unless you were doing some long trip or had a set destination that you could travel perfectly 'x' number of times on a perfectly full tank.

When you only get 150km out of a tank, every lasy drip counts :)

At almost every station straddling the bike while re-fueling is a no-no. Most don't actually enforce it though. If you don't have a center stand it's probably the best way to do it.

munterk6
31st March 2009, 23:21
Did you wave at him?

Nah...just glared with a smug look that he couldn't see LOL!
I guess I have a problem with handing over money to a little shmuck that gets off on bossing people about.:bye:

he was only doin his job but seemed to show enjoyment in it> weird...

Mikkel
31st March 2009, 23:26
I absolutely agree with you.

One thing about sitting on the bike while filling up - you have to get off it to go pay anyway, so when you lean it over to get off the extra bit that you managed to get in by keeping it vertical will most likely just seep out through the breather hose. I know it does on mine...

If you're sitting on the bike wearing leathers there are nothing in that situation that would build up a static charge so the fire danger is quite exaggerated.

LBD
31st March 2009, 23:46
I absolutely agree with you.

One thing about sitting on the bike while filling up - you have to get off it to go pay anyway, so when you lean it over to get off the extra bit that you managed to get in by keeping it vertical will most likely just seep out through the breather hose. I know it does on mine...



And if you have your helmet on while sitting on the bike, you look like you are about to do a bolter

Gubb
1st April 2009, 06:21
It's all Servo's, not just BP.

sunhuntin
1st April 2009, 06:50
its mainly a safety reason, not only the danger to ones nether region, but if you are someone who rides and smokes and accidentally drops a lit bit of ash or even the butt... whoosh! chargrilled meatballs? plus, long term contact with petrol can cause birth defects in women, so id hate to think what spilled stuff does to the swimmers, lol.

when i was at bp, i never bothered telling people to get off their bikes while filling. preferred to pick my battles. smokers were more of a danger than anything else.

discotex
1st April 2009, 06:53
Given the pumps were on lock I'd say he was more concerned that you would ride off with the gas than the risk of you turning into a fireball.

Why risk getting a lap full of petrol? It's bad for your leathers and *very* bad for your privates.

pritch
1st April 2009, 07:46
When I was travelling on the Hornet I used sit on the bike while I poured so as to fill the tank properly. None came out the overflow unless you totally overdid it. That allowed me to get to Ngauruwahia from New Plymouth without the reserve light coming on. Very restful.

The VFR has a centrestand, no problem.

mdnzz
1st April 2009, 07:58
I get out of the truck to gas up, I get of the bike to gas up, not much difference really, no need to juggle the bike or worry about any overflow. Go in pay come back out gear up an bugga off, don't care if it takes me 1 min or 10.

Patch
1st April 2009, 08:28
its 'cause u were on a gixxer dude, buy a real bike - you'll get more respect.

dipshit
1st April 2009, 08:37
When I was travelling on the Hornet I used sit on the bike while I poured so as to fill the tank properly. None came out the overflow unless you totally overdid it. That allowed me to get to Ngauruwahia from New Plymouth without the reserve light coming on. Very restful.

You could just hold the bike upright for a few moments near the end of filling it while standing beside it too you know.

vifferman
1st April 2009, 08:46
It's interesting that people who fill the bike up while sitting on it can always find reasons to justify it. I've tried it - it was 'kn awkward. You have to get off to pay anyway, so what's the big deal?
I've never slopped petrol on myself while standing next to the vehicle, but I have slopped it on the tank or down the side (in a car/truck). Nice to have that on your pants...

samgab
1st April 2009, 08:57
Petrol stations get a lot of petrol drive offs these days.
It's a pain, but I now understand why they prefer prepay.

Duke girl
1st April 2009, 08:59
To me it sounds like more, that the Service stations think that everyone who pulls up on a motorcycle to get fuel and stays on their bike while fueling up is a suspected ride of petrol thief, yet to me its the best way to get as much petrol in your tank having the bike completely upright instead of on a slight lean.
Most service stations have a sign up at the entrance saying to take helmet of before entering shop and yet 9 x's out of 10 I go into the shop part to pay for fuel with my helmet still on my head and have never had any 1 tell me to take it off.
Next time it happens to you about being asked to hop of your bike while fueling up ask attendant what the reason is for it. Then you will know the reason why they ask you to do so.

LittleAngel
1st April 2009, 09:25
It's interesting that people who fill the bike up while sitting on it can always find reasons to justify it. I've tried it - it was 'kn awkward. You have to get off to pay anyway, so what's the big deal?
I've never slopped petrol on myself while standing next to the vehicle, but I have slopped it on the tank or down the side (in a car/truck). Nice to have that on your pants...

I agree - the only time I filled the bike up while still on it, was awkward as hell!!

I don't have a center stand but I just lean it over a bit - if I can be bothered! :zzzz: Otherwise I'm not that fused.. I'm more worried about not spilling in on the paint!!!

I think the main reason they'd execute the rule would be in case you were doing a runner.. Just as we assume every cager is out to get us, the attendants would assume everyone is out to steal gas... If you were sitting on ya bike and with ya helmet still on ... what would it look like to a non-biker?

Be it right or wrong - that's just the way it is.... :wacko:

Nasty
1st April 2009, 10:12
Quite often when filling I will get off fill the bike .. get on move bike to the parking spots and then go pay ...

MarkH
1st April 2009, 10:17
I pulled in to a BP the other morning to fill the GSXR and as per usual, I popped the gas cap whilst still sitting on the bike (obviously to pack as much in as poss) and grabbed the pump and proceeded to fill...there was a short squirt of gas, then nothing.
I looked at the attendant in his cage and he got on the speaker "Please get off the bike before you fill it"

It is there right to set and enforce whatever rules they like!

It is your right (and your money) to take your business (and money) elsewhere!

I always fill up while sitting on my scooter, they never say anything at my regular. I always fill up at the same station unless I am out of town, because I have no hassles with them and somewhere else there might be twats!

sunhuntin
1st April 2009, 12:10
Quite often when filling I will get off fill the bike .. get on move bike to the parking spots and then go pay ...

ditto. if its massively busy, i move up to a park [removing helmet etc first and walking the bike across the forecourt]

the one thing i hate about my local shell is the forecourt. the pumps have a bitch of an angle to allow the spills to drain away... but it means on a bike that it feels like its going to tip over. so now, i have to try and get a pump on the same side as stand. otherwise i freak when hopping off that its gonna fall.

breakaway
1st April 2009, 12:40
Holy fuck I can't believe the amount of whiners on this forum. Get off your fucking bike, take off your damn helmet. It's not going to kill you!

DrewBroadley
1st April 2009, 13:46
All this talk is inspiring me to try and fill the car without getting out :Punk:

JMemonic
1st April 2009, 13:54
Been that way for years, next time you fill up check the little stickers near the pumps, when I first started in a station the boss gave me a run through of the rules and one of them was not straddling the bike, another was no transmitters (this was pre cellphones) and we used to ask the police to turn off theirs before we filled, oh and you had to have a certificate to fuel LPG vehicles.

Harvd
1st April 2009, 14:35
Holy fuck I can't believe the amount of whiners on this forum. Get off your fucking bike, take off your damn helmet. It's not going to kill you!

You cant? seems just about right on the 9:1 ratio of moaners:non-moaners

This of course being the normal level

sunhuntin
1st April 2009, 16:16
oh and you had to have a certificate to fuel LPG vehicles.

still do. we werent allowed to fill lpg bottles or cars till wed "passed" the pathetically easy "test" that any dunce with .5 of a brain could complete, specially with the guy who doled it out repeating himself 5 or 6 times in the form of a stutter: "o, o, ah, ah, ah," from which hed get to his point, then hed go back to what he was talking about 5 mins ago, including the stutter. at times, i had to stop myself from mocking his gravelly voice when he showed up on site, lmfao.

munterk6
1st April 2009, 16:55
I have never spilled gas on my self and I have never thought it was awkward pouring the gas whilst seated on the bike..dunno what everyones on about there. I guess Im gonna have to get into the habit of gassing up off the bike eh. :weep:

munterk6
1st April 2009, 17:00
its 'cause u were on a gixxer dude, and for those amazing bikes, I have total respect. Oh and apologies for any offence given :weep:

Apology accepted Patch (moped rider lol!!!) , and yes, all of the country knows which bike wins consistently on our racetracks..the mighty GSXR1000! :whistle: :2thumbsup

saltydog
10th April 2009, 22:03
Trust it to be these arse bandits causing trouble for bikers at the pumps.
I cant even pay for my gas here at the Whakatane one.
Thank god CALTEX is now accepting those vouchers you get at the supermarket. I'd rather sleep on a bed of nails than fill up any of my vehicles there.
And their pies are always friggin cold.

Patch
10th April 2009, 22:21
Apology accepted Patch
:argue: you won't ever hear me apologise moron - thats a misquote by your hand and you know it, and/or a fuckin lame attempt at being funny.

GSXR this an that, blah blah blah who gives a crap, just because you own one so what?? Own the racetrack eh, its marketing bullshit.

Given that Suzuki NZ sponsor 90% of the top NZ riders - no surprises really there fool.


Its only a Suzuki.

Laxi
10th April 2009, 23:04
Safety shmafety!! I have never heard of any bike catching fire at a servo.
I reckon they have "Hitler training" going on. What do you lot reckon?

yep only now the nazis have changed there name to occupational health & safty, these bastards will have the servos balls in the remote chance your bike does catch fire while your sitting on it.
but come on, dont you have to get off to pay anyway? honestly now, sure you wern't planning a drive off?:dodge:

nico
11th April 2009, 07:47
Yep I see on many gas stations signs for no sitting on bikes while fuelling along with the usual no mobile signs etc.


corect signs are displayed a main main reason is the static distarge caused by you on bike small risk but still a risk it aint hard to get off is it? surly you only be able to put mabie 100ml more standln up???

Jantar
11th April 2009, 08:43
..... surly you only be able to put mabie 100ml more standln up???
Actualy its almost a litre more. That's why I fitted a center stand.

scumdog
11th April 2009, 09:07
I rarely get off the bike when filling it, why should I, after all I don't have to get off to pay - normajeane (CB) does that job for me....

And I've never been told to get off by any pump-jockey yet.

PrincessBandit
11th April 2009, 09:09
Hmm, PB seems to be seeing a theme here of certain riders just having authority issues. Bloody hell people, get over yourselves.
The only issue I have with "service" stations is that they pretty much have no service any more that i can tell of. You do everything yourself so I find the title of "service station" laughable. But as for their rules of conduct on the forecourt and inside, c'mon they've not been designed to personally piss you off. Don't be so sensitive. In the words of Paul Henry "start a group".

Quasievil
11th April 2009, 09:12
Well this is a topic done to death on KB, the rules set by the Gas stations are get off your bike before filling up, they didnt make that rule just to piss bikers off they did it for safety reasons, this is good, thats the end of it, get over it and get used to it, as above pointed out "only get 150 kms out of a tank" then I advise you that you now only get 140 kms per tank and youre now safer when you fill up.

scumdog
11th April 2009, 09:17
Well this is a topic done to death on KB, the rules set by the Gas stations are get off your bike before filling up, they didnt make that rule just to piss bikers off they did it for safety reasons, this is good, thats the end of it, get over it and get used to it, as above pointed out "only get 150 kms out of a tank" then I advise you that you now only get 140 kms per tank and youre now safer when you fill up.

So, has anybody got the figures for "Filling-the-bike-while-sitting-on-it-and-dropped-it-and-burst-into-flames" incidents??<_<

And how many gas-stations were burnt to the ground as a result?

Quasievil
11th April 2009, 09:30
So, has anybody got the figures for "Filling-the-bike-while-sitting-on-it-and-dropped-it-and-burst-into-flames" incidents??<_<

And how many gas-stations were burnt to the ground as a result?

I Dont, I wonder also how many stats relate to someone slipping on a forecourt due to spilt petrol or diesel, that would be a fun experience while suporting your bike on one foot while sitting on it and filling up.

scumdog
11th April 2009, 09:33
I Dont, I wonder also how many stats relate to someone slipping on a forecourt due to spilt petrol or diesel, that would be a fun experience while suporting your bike on one foot while sitting on it and filling up.

Never heard of it either and it sure hasn't happened to me, but then I can put both feet on the ground whilst sitting on the bike.

Have heard of somebody walking around the bike with nozzle in hand and arsing-up, THAT made for a real hazard with a big squirt of fuel as they went down...

sunhuntin
11th April 2009, 09:57
I Dont, I wonder also how many stats relate to someone slipping on a forecourt due to spilt petrol or diesel, that would be a fun experience while suporting your bike on one foot while sitting on it and filling up.

ive nearly arsed off while pulling up to a pump. put my foot down in some diesel, and it shot out. thankfully, i was still moving slowly, and shifted to a dry spot before my foot got too far away. ive also seen a local jerk on a moped being an idiot and revving while pulling the front up [yes, it looked as retarded as it sounds] and then when he went to take off, the back hit some diesel and damn near threw him off.