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fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:18
So It is almost time for me to upgrade. and i am dreamily looking at TM for ideas on bikes. I have to admit i am a bit superficial on how a bike looks (in my opinion of course!:rolleyes:) but am also intersest in what htses bikes are like in greneral.

Not after rubbish just a serious opinion by people that have owned or ridden some/all of these bikes. info on reliability, ride-ability, etc would be appreciated.

Here are some examples of bikes that i have seen that catch my eye.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-206929715.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-209966209.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-210529882.htm

not so sure about this one? has been binned
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-210905361.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-210942982.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-208978310.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-210598346.htm

I will be going out once i have my full and testing a bunch of bikes but thought i would get the ball rolling so to speak.
Thanks
Steve

Skyryder
2nd April 2009, 18:22
Good luck.


Skyryder

mark247
2nd April 2009, 18:22
What are you stepping up from?

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:24
your going to laugh but i am moving up from a hoybag

EJK
2nd April 2009, 18:24
I know how you ride (I think....) so any of them above will do just fine, don't worry about people saying "Don't get a litre bike" etc :niceone:

Good luck :)

Squiggles
2nd April 2009, 18:25
buy my tl...stay away from the hondas :lol:.

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:28
i did look at you TL bro but the high KM's put me off soz

mark247
2nd April 2009, 18:29
I know how you ride (I think....) so any of them above will do just fine, don't worry about people saying "Don't get a litre bike" etc :niceone:

Good luck :)

Stepping up to a 1000cc bike is absolutely fine if you are mature, its the idiots like me that would suffer. Test road a R1 and a gsxr1000 the other day, going from 60hp to 150hp, ummm, if i bought one today, id be dead tomorrow. I'm just too trigger happy lol. Power wheelies are just too much fun.

Squiggles
2nd April 2009, 18:31
i did look at you TL bro but the high KM's put me off soz

Beware of the green one then, k's have bounced about a fair bit

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:32
Stepping up to a 1000cc bike is absolutely fine if you are mature, its the idiots like me that would suffer. Test road a R1 and a gsxr1000 the other day, going from 60hp to 150hp, ummm, if i bought one today, id be dead tomorrow. I'm just too trigger happy lol. Power wheelies are just too much fun.

hahaha just looked at your profile i am nearly x2 you age!

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:33
Beware of the green one then, k's have bounced about a fair bit

Thanks bro

mark247
2nd April 2009, 18:35
hahaha just looked at your profile i am nearly x2 you age!

You mean me? Yeah well, you are probably mature then =P

The Stranger
2nd April 2009, 18:39
So It is almost time for me to upgrade. and i am dreamily looking at TM for ideas on bikes. I have to admit i am a bit superficial on how a bike looks

Yet you ride a hyobag and 5 out of your 6 look like shit.
Get the GSXR checked out, increase your life insurance and make it out to me then and go for that.

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:40
You mean me? Yeah well, you are probably mature then =P

I wouldn't go that far hahahaha:lol:
there would be more than one KBer that would disagree with that!:pinch:

98tls
2nd April 2009, 18:40
Had a TL for many years which incidently may well be up for sale end of next week fwiw,great bike,the low km one looks sweet,few things to look out for with them,cracked damper mount (damper/shock are seperate).TLS over the years has had more than its share of bullshit thrown at it from all over,mine and many other peoples have never suffered from any of the supposed problems and as for the "widow maker" label:laugh:The SV to has suffered a similar amount of shite but for a different reason "watered down TLS" etc etc,load of shite,dyno graphs show the reality,the TL just comes on in a rush at 6000 ish rpms which is still a bit of a rush but in reality little would seperate both if ridden by riders of equal ability.Could rave on for ever as ive lived/breathed etc TLs for years,if you decide thats what your after and want to know anything flick me a pm or visit TLZONE.NET my home away from home and a pack of TL owning clever buggers from all over the world.

The Stranger
2nd April 2009, 18:41
not so sure about this one? has been binned
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-210905361.htm



What GSXR older than 2 yrs hasn't been binned?
It's part of the running in process - it's in the manual.

98tls
2nd April 2009, 18:43
Nice colour that lamb shit yellow.

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:43
Yet you ride a hyobag and 5 out of your 6 look like shit.
Get the GSXR checked out, increase your life insurance and make it out to me then and go for that.

awww such a helpful post! just what I have come to expect from some on KB:girlfight::bleh::laugh:

Jacko2
2nd April 2009, 18:43
Try them all before you decide Steve.
One will say ME!
Others you'll know straight away are not for you.
Have fun doing it and don't be in any hurry.
JACKO

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 18:47
Had a TL for many years which incidently may well be up for sale end of next week fwiw,great bike,the low km one looks sweet,few things to look out for with them,cracked damper mount (damper/shock are seperate).TLS over the years has had more than its share of bullshit thrown at it from all over,mine and many other peoples have never suffered from any of the supposed problems and as for the "widow maker" label:laugh:The SV to has suffered a similar amount of shite but for a different reason "watered down TLS" etc etc,load of shite,dyno graphs show the reality,the TL just comes on in a rush at 6000 ish rpms which is still a bit of a rush but in reality little would seperate both if ridden by riders of equal ability.Could rave on for ever as ive lived/breathed etc TLs for years,if you decide thats what your after and want to know anything flick me a pm or visit TLZONE.NET my home away from home and a pack of TL owning clever buggers from all over the world.

thanks for that a helpful post :) i have like the look of the TLS for a while. Sat on one a while back and it felt comfortable but i will ride one before i but just to make sure.

98tls
2nd April 2009, 18:50
thanks for that a helpful post :) i have like the look of the TLS for a while. Sat on one a while back and it felt comfortable but i will ride one before i but just to make sure. They are indeed comfortable,ive packed mine up with gear and done many long trips away,quite happy to do 8 or so hour days and im getting on a bit.

AllanB
2nd April 2009, 18:56
SV in that bunch looks good - late model, low kms and has the pipes ;) looks like they are after $7500 ish.

All depends on your budget I guess.

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 19:01
Nice colour that lamb shit yellow.

was prob cannery yellow when it started out in life!:blink:


Try them all before you decide Steve.
One will say ME!
Others you'll know straight away are not for you.
Have fun doing it and don't be in any hurry.
JACKO

My thoughts exactly. but i the more info you have the better!:shifty:


They are indeed comfortable,ive packed mine up with gear and done many long trips away,quite happy to do 8 or so hour days and im getting on a bit.

i did many a trip on the hobag so i think that even that side of things will not bother me to much. most bike get uncomfortable after a while


SV in that bunch looks good - late model, low kms and has the pipes ;) looks like they are after $7500 ish.

All depends on your budget I guess.

Millions! yeah right! will not be looking to spend much more than 7.5K

98tls
2nd April 2009, 19:10
was prob cannery yellow when it started out in life!:blink: Y3G Candy Jade Lime Yellow to be exact.fwiw.

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 19:14
Y3G Candy Jade Lime Yellow to be exact.fwiw.

say whaaa! come again! ewwwww:bleh:

Creeping Death
2nd April 2009, 19:24
TL with Two Brothers.The sound will give you a hard on everytime!:yes:

McDuck
2nd April 2009, 19:28
Im wth mark on this one.... id kill myself.

Renegade
2nd April 2009, 19:30
SV in that bunch looks good - late model, low kms and has the pipes ;) looks like they are after $7500 ish.

All depends on your budget I guess.

yip what he said, they sound the biz with the two bro pipes aswell.

hospitalfood
2nd April 2009, 19:47
ok, your looking at twins ( kind of , seems only the jap ones ? )
I love twins, love the way they ride and think your on the right path.

the vtr's with carbs are very gas hungry, probably the same with any big twin with carbs. I do think hondas are generally well made, not that I would own one.
the SV has basic suspension, if this will not satisfy you don't buy it, as you would spend less getting a better bike.
don't know much about tl's / tlr's .

I have a buell and love it, great suspension and brakes IMO, anyone will tell you they handle very well, i like the look of the faired one i have ( dont think much of the unfaired models ). my one has the 1200 harley engine which is VERY low maintenance so cheap maintenance, no valve adjustments need to be made. the throttle body injection gives good economy, and i love the way it sounds and performs. also very easy to work on not that i have needed to. I have a friend with one ( like myself has the race chip and pipe ) who has raped it for 40,000 km and has had no issues.

I also think some of the moto guzzi's are worth a look but italian bikes do not really have a rep for low maintenance and reliability.
however, i want a guzzi or another bmw for my third bike.

love my bmw as well, also good twins.

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 19:47
TL with Two Brothers.The sound will give you a hard on everytime!:yes:


yip what he said, they sound the biz with the two bro pipes aswell.

i just had the thought of riding round all day with a hard on! hahaha


Im wth mark on this one.... id kill myself.

Meh all in the way you ride a guess. (and i am not saying i ride that well before i get that thrown back in my face :lol:)

fizbin
2nd April 2009, 19:53
ok, your looking at twins ( kind of , seems only the jap ones ? )
I love twins, love the way they ride and think your on the right path.

the vtr's with carbs are very gas hungry, probably the same with any big twin with carbs. I do think hondas are generally well made, not that I would own one.
the SV has basic suspension, if this will not satisfy you don't buy it, as you would spend less getting a better bike.
don't know much about tl's / tlr's .

I have a buell and love it, great suspension and brakes IMO, anyone will tell you they handle very well, i like the look of the faired one i have ( dont think much of the unfaired models ). my one has the 1200 harley engine which is VERY low maintenance so cheap maintenance, no valve adjustments need to be made. the throttle body injection gives good economy, and i love the way it sounds and performs. also very easy to work on not that i have needed to. I have a friend with one ( like myself has the race chip and pipe ) who has raped it for 40,000 km and has had no issues.

I also think some of the moto guzzi's are worth a look but italian bikes do not really have a rep for low maintenance and reliability.
however, i want a guzzi or another bmw for my third bike.

love my bmw as well, also good twins.

Thanks man.
Yeah i am def leaning more to the V-twin thing. I basically learnt to ride on one and i am comfortable with how they handle etc. Will have a look at the buell's but like i said i dont want to spend much more than about 7 - 7.5K on this bike

98tls
2nd April 2009, 19:54
ok, your looking at twins ( kind of , seems only the jap ones ? )
I love twins, love the way they ride and think your on the right path.

the vtr's with carbs are very gas hungry, probably the same with any big twin with carbs. I do think hondas are generally well made, not that I would own one.
the SV has basic suspension, if this will not satisfy you don't buy it, as you would spend less getting a better bike.
don't know much about tl's / tlr's .

I have a buell and love it, great suspension and brakes IMO, anyone will tell you they handle very well, i like the look of the faired one i have ( dont think much of the unfaired models ). my one has the 1200 harley engine which is VERY low maintenance so cheap maintenance, no valve adjustments need to be made. the throttle body injection gives good economy, and i love the way it sounds and performs. also very easy to work on not that i have needed to. I have a friend with one ( like myself has the race chip and pipe ) who has raped it for 40,000 km and has had no issues.

I also think some of the moto guzzi's are worth a look but italian bikes do not really have a rep for low maintenance and reliability.
however, i want a guzzi or another bmw for my third bike.

love my bmw as well, also good twins. Guzzis not reliable and dont have a rep for being so:doh:38 years riding and its the first time ive heard that.

The Stranger
2nd April 2009, 19:59
awww such a helpful post! just what I have come to expect from some on KB:girlfight::bleh::laugh:

You asked for serious opinions - make your fucken mind up, do you want serious opinions or not?
Or do you just want opinions that are in agreement with yours?

hospitalfood
2nd April 2009, 19:59
Thanks man.
Yeah i am def leaning more to the V-twin thing. I basically learnt to ride on one and i am comfortable with how they handle etc. Will have a look at the buell's but like i said i dont want to spend much more than about 7 - 7.5K on this bike

there was a couple of V11 guzzi's on trade me recently about that price. 2000 / 2003 bikes with 20,000 / 25,000 km. may be worth a look.

have not seen a XB buell that price yet ( XB's are 2003 onwards I think ) but not far off that price. the older models can be bought for that kind of money but the looks are not as great IMO. however they look great customised.

PirateJafa
2nd April 2009, 20:03
Aren't you the dude who keeps binning 250s?

And now you're jumping to a litre. This should be a recipe for hilarity. And provide a basis for a cheap litre streetfighter for me, thanks mate!

Gubb
2nd April 2009, 20:20
<img src="http://www.bike-navi.info/media/img_20060722T091320390.jpg"></img>

Please don't die.

Mystic13
3rd April 2009, 04:27
If you're going for the bike that has been re-registered the person should have the before and after photo's or a link to them.

Yes the bike could have been written of for not much but what I really want to know is that at speed and going fast through a corner with bumps that the bike will behave like it should. I'd be wanting more than a inspection I'd be wanting someone I trust to run it up and also want a list of parts replaced. And probably the alignment of the front checked.

Actually for all the hassle I'd just skip it or make a ridiculous offer.

Good luck with choosing.

fizbin
3rd April 2009, 05:00
Aren't you the dude who keeps binning 250s?
And now you're jumping to a litre. This should be a recipe for hilarity. And provide a basis for a cheap litre streetfighter for me, thanks mate!
*Grumble grumble grumble* i have only binned one bike!


<img src="http://www.bike-navi.info/media/img_20060722T091320390.jpg"></img>
Please don't die.
Thanks for the vote of confidence ROFL


You asked for serious opinions - make your fucken mind up, do you want serious opinions or not?
Or do you just want opinions that are in agreement with yours?
what i was after was constructive help on what these bike ride like, from people who have ridden them, not "5 out of the 6 of your bikes look like shit"
if i wanted you opinion on what i bike looked like i would ask. As stated in my first post "I" like the look of these bikes. i have a lot of respect for the knowledge that some people have on this site including you. if the general consensus was that say for example the GSXR rode like shit and was unreliable then i would not buy it. If everyone said that it was a awesome bike all round then that would sway me in the other direction.
if you don't have anything constructive to add (see the Quote below to see an example of a constructive post) and are just out to post up shit then don't post.


If you're going for the bike that has been re-registered the person should have the before and after photo's or a link to them.
Yes the bike could have been written of for not much but what I really want to know is that at speed and going fast through a corner with bumps that the bike will behave like it should. I'd be wanting more than a inspection I'd be wanting someone I trust to run it up and also want a list of parts replaced. And probably the alignment of the front checked.
Actually for all the hassle I'd just skip it or make a ridiculous offer.
Good luck with choosing.
thanks, i will ask for some before and after pics.

The Stranger
3rd April 2009, 07:44
what i was after was constructive help on what these bike ride like, from people who have ridden them, not "5 out of the 6 of your bikes look like shit"
if i wanted you opinion on what i bike looked like i would ask. As stated in my first post "I" like the look of these bikes. i have a lot of respect for the knowledge that some people have on this site including you. if the general consensus was that say for example the GSXR rode like shit and was unreliable then i would not buy it. If everyone said that it was a awesome bike all round then that would sway me in the other direction.
if you don't have anything constructive to add (see the Quote below to see an example of a constructive post) and are just out to post up shit then don't post.



What are you smoking?
I gave you the only correct answer. Remember, I said the GSXR.
Being that you are superficial - again, I gave you the only correct answer.
With about 10,000 reviews on the Web attesting to the reliability and the legend that is the GSXR, WTF is anyone else going to add about how they ride? It's not the king of bikes for nothing nob.
I also said get it checked out - as obviously you are a noob and incapable of this yourself. Again, good advice.

Please let me know if you require any further assistance with either your bike purchase or with reading comprehension.

vifferman
3rd April 2009, 07:53
While I've never ridden a TL, I did own a VTR. The Suzuki is superior for performance, looks better (VTR is kinda ugly) and is probably more reliable (VTR has camchain tensioner issues).
BUT you really need to test-ride a bike - the one you buy should be the one that does it for you. Having said that, I'm sure if you bought any one of those bikes you'd be very happy with it.

Patch
3rd April 2009, 08:06
Maintenance is the key to trouble-free motoring.


Wanting a serious answer from KB - priceless :laugh:

Dooly
3rd April 2009, 08:20
The first TL looks pretty sweet.

MarkH
3rd April 2009, 09:11
I wouldn't go that far hahahaha:lol:
there would be more than one KBer that would disagree with that!:pinch:

Don't forget about friends & family & your wife - they will all be keen to get their turn to call you immature as well!

Good luck with your new bike, I wish I had some spare money to buy myself another one (or two more for a total of 3).