The Buell 1125CR test

[carver]

The front end disappeared as I sat on the bike, I turned on the key, and the fans started their fucking annoying whining before I even started the engine.
The ignition switch pressed, the engine fired up and idled at 3500 rpm, the dash proudly telling me this bike was made by Buell in Wisconsin.
On idle it sounds like a overlocker on full tilt.
The engine needs revs to keep going, it lugs badly below about 4000 Rpm.
It’s a bit like a 450 MX bike engine, your either on the gas or off it.
This bike is like fucking some annoying slut that wont shut up.
I found myself yelling at it to perform.
Its frustrating to ride, in town its terrible, on the open road its ok, nothing great.
It handles ok, the brakes are nothing, nothing, nothing…..then severe fork dive and they bite too hard.
The mirrors belong on a coke heads table, they are fucking useless.
It wheelies ok, but I ended up wheeling it out of frustration.
Apparently its thirsty too….
The headlight does the job, bit like the girl next door-its nothing special.
The styling is ugly, and far too overdone.

So there you go, another American piece of shit that misses the mark badly, and should be used as a urinal.

[Crasherfromwayback]

, I turned on the key, and the fans started their fucking annoying whining before I even started the engine.

Must've been already hot then mate.

The ignition switch pressed, the engine fired up and idled at 3500 rpm, the dash proudly telling me this bike was made by Buell in Wisconsin.
On idle it sounds like a overlocker on full tilt.

Something not right with the one you rode then mate. What model overlocker do you own?

The engine needs revs to keep going, it lugs badly below about 4000 Rpm.

Ours pulls harder than even you at low revs.

It’s a bit like a 450 MX bike engine, your either on the gas or off it.

Odd...my RMZ450 is THE nicest dirtbike engine I've ever used. More useable than your mother.

This bike is like fucking some annoying slut that wont shut up.

Pot-Kettle

Apparently its thirsty too….

Apparently?


So there you go, another American piece of shit that misses the mark badly, and should be used as a urinal.

Seeing as you obviously sit down to pee...doubt you're even qualified to talk about urinals.

[carver]

this bike is shit, sure someone will buy it, but for a 2008/9 20+k bike, its just not good enough

[Crasherfromwayback]

this bike is shit, sure someone will buy it, but for a 2008/9 20+k bike, its just not good enough

I think you rode a bad example. One that shouldn't have been let loose as a demo. It's odd. The same basic bike (1125R) has been doing ok racing against the Aprillia RSV? How's that happen do you think?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/e/n090404k.htm

And before you ask...Chaz Davies is no slug.

Next question?

[carver]

I think you rode a bad example. One that shouldn't have been let loose as a demo. It's odd. The same basic bike (1125R) has been doing ok racing against the Aprillia RSV? How's that happen do you think?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Apr/e/n090404k.htm

And before you ask...Chaz Davies is no slug.

Next question?

the power is ok, dont get me wrong.
as a road/street bike its useless.
ridden it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

the power is ok, dont get me wrong.
as a road/street bike its useless.
ridden it?

Sure have. Not too many motorcycles I haven't ridden. Most modern sportbikes and nakid sportbikes are more motorcycle that I'd ever need on the street though.

[hospitalfood]

don't think you got it at all carver.
as crasher said, the 1125 r is doing very well as a race bike and the cr is not all that different.

i doubt it was a bad demo, i suspect you did not spend enough time on it to get the hang of riding it. or you are just after an argument.

i agree that it is ugly and hope they sort the looks out, aside from that i think you are wrong, as do most others who have reviewed it.

[tri boy]

and should be used as a urinal.

Best you write your contact details on it for your groupies then:rofl:

[YellowDog]

The front end disappeared as I sat on the bike, I turned on the key, and the fans started their fucking annoying whining before I even started the engine.
The ignition switch pressed, the engine fired up and idled at 3500 rpm, the dash proudly telling me this bike was made by Buell in Wisconsin.
On idle it sounds like a overlocker on full tilt.
The engine needs revs to keep going, it lugs badly below about 4000 Rpm.
It’s a bit like a 450 MX bike engine, your either on the gas or off it.
This bike is like fucking some annoying slut that wont shut up.
I found myself yelling at it to perform.
Its frustrating to ride, in town its terrible, on the open road its ok, nothing great.
It handles ok, the brakes are nothing, nothing, nothing…..then severe fork dive and they bite too hard.
The mirrors belong on a coke heads table, they are fucking useless.
It wheelies ok, but I ended up wheeling it out of frustration.
Apparently its thirsty too….
The headlight does the job, bit like the girl next door-its nothing special.
The styling is ugly, and far too overdone.

So there you go, another American piece of shit that misses the mark badly, and should be used as a urinal.
I get the feeling that you wouldn't have liked it even if it came with a troup of pom pom waving Cheerleaders.

The high revving idle would have annoyed me too.

[Big Dave]

So it's not a fag's bike then. Probably why I like it so much. :-)

[Crasherfromwayback]

So it's not a fag's bike then. Probably why I like it so much. :-)

And why he'd rather have a Honda DN01

[carver]

ah, it only has the high idle initially, i rode it for about a hour at a guess, and i could not wait to get back on my own bike

i dont think im wrong, im sure the R would do well in racing, but there is a difference between race bikes and road bikes, and the bike i rode on the road was shit.
i would have the Predator anyday over it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

and the bike i rode on the road was shit.


No such thing as a shit motorcycle that's made by the main companies anymore mate. Purely personal preference. Talking shit is another matter all together...that's alive and well.

[HenryDorsetCase]

No such thing as a shit motorcycle that's made by the main companies anymore mate. Purely personal preference. Talking shit is another matter all together...that's alive and well.

absolutely right....

[kiwifruit]

good round the track tho

[carver]

No such thing as a shit motorcycle that's made by the main companies anymore mate. Purely personal preference. Talking shit is another matter all together...that's alive and well.

there is no such thing as a shit motorcycle if your not critical enough.
the injection setup is a massive flaw for a road bike, it is worse than the KTM 690 i rode.

if you think that shit bikes cannot be made, you will just accept that every bike is the way they are, and all of them are all ok.

manufacturers still miss the mark, whether it be style wise, price wise, sure some of that is taste.
hyosung are a good example

[Crasherfromwayback]

there is no such thing as a shit motorcycle if your not critical enough.
the injection setup is a massive flaw for a road bike, it is worse than the KTM 690 i rode.

if you think that shit bikes cannot be made, you will just accept that every bike is the way they are, and all of them are all ok.

manufacturers still miss the mark, whether it be style wise, price wise, sure some of that is taste.
hyosung are a good example

I'm actually highly critical. I've also been round long enough to know that any bike (wether that be a KTM 690...or an 1125cr) if it ain't right is not great.

It's people that miss the mark more often that not. If you try and ride a Fatboy over the Takas at speed..it's total shit (unless you're Aaron Slight on his). And if you try and ride a modern 450 motocrosser from Auckland to Wellington you'll pull over half way here and set the fucking thing on fire rather than continue.

So...you select and purchase a motorcycle that's the LEAST compromise (as all motorcycles are a compromise in some way right) for what you want/need it for...then ride it accordingly!

Easy. And no more bitching!

[AllanB]

I dismissed this thread as a big wank earlier today and then re-read it this evening.

While I agree with most that modern bikes are all very good (and well beyond my average abilities) the Buell offers a definite option to the other 20k ish sports bikes.

Reading between the lines of the original post (Big Dave does not need to worry about his job here) if you consider that this IS Buells response to the GSXR, CBR, R1 etc and Crasher actually rides (on one wheel anyway - pick a wheel!) a GSXR then there is some substance to the comment 'could not wait to get back on my bike'.

Personal tastes really and a hour in the seat of a bike set up by god knows who is never more than an indication of it's potential.

What I question most about the 1125 is how do Harley justify it's low price? Considering compared to the big bore twins they produce in mass at $25-$30k (plus) how do they price the relatively low production, high spec 1125 for $20K?
Is chrome really that expensive?

[hospitalfood]

there is no such thing as a shit motorcycle if your not critical enough.
the injection setup is a massive flaw for a road bike, it is worse than the KTM 690 i rode.

if you think that shit bikes cannot be made, you will just accept that every bike is the way they are, and all of them are all ok.

manufacturers still miss the mark, whether it be style wise, price wise, sure some of that is taste.
hyosung are a good example


there is no way to talk yourself out of the huge fuckup you made dissing the buell mate.

we all know its a great bike, not only that but great value.

its a shame you don't have the skills to get the most out of it.

i have met you at the kiwi, i have offered you support on tours ( it still stands ) and i like what you do with your vids and reviews, but you simply got it wrong this time.

I suggest that you get on another buell ( the cr or whatever, does not make a difference ) and try again, when you learn to ride a twin and come back with a similar opinion to everybody else we can take your crit seriously. until then you are mugging yourself.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What I question most about the 1125 is how do Harley justify it's low price? Considering compared to the big bore twins they produce in mass at $25-$30k (plus) how do they price the relatively low production, high spec 1125 for $20K?
Is chrome really that expensive?

Interesting question it is too! The chrome on Harleys really IS expensive...as it's tripple plated. Notice how much more durable it is compared to the chrome on Japanese cruisers?

But...in my experience in the bike industry...manufacturers and distributors will price a bike at what they consider the local market will/can handle.

[AllanB]

The chrome on Harleys really IS expensive...as it's tripple plated.

Funny thing the advertising about triple plating and chrome - good chrome is all triple plated - this refers to the 2 base coats (forget what the first one is, then nickle) and the final third 'chrome' coating.

I believe if you are a cheap arse you can ditch one of the first two. Also a consideration is the time spent in the coating baths as this dictates the thickness of the coating.

But first the chrome is only as good as the metal polishing under it - a chrome turd will still be lumpy unless you have polished it smooth first.

Nickle coating cafe racer frames was popular years ago - it has a nice softer yellow colour than 'chrome' and apparently has less risk of stressing the metal than 'chrome'.

I dealt with chromers through work a year back and it was quite interesting.

Unsure how they chrome plastic etc - in the USA they can chrome anything (probably a turd if it is dry).

[Drogen Omen]

The front end disappeared as I sat on the bike, I turned on the key, and the fans started their fucking annoying whining before I even started the engine.
The ignition switch pressed, the engine fired up and idled at 3500 rpm, the dash proudly telling me this bike was made by Buell in Wisconsin.
On idle it sounds like a overlocker on full tilt.
The engine needs revs to keep going, it lugs badly below about 4000 Rpm.
It’s a bit like a 450 MX bike engine, your either on the gas or off it.
This bike is like fucking some annoying slut that wont shut up.
I found myself yelling at it to perform.
Its frustrating to ride, in town its terrible, on the open road its ok, nothing great.
It handles ok, the brakes are nothing, nothing, nothing…..then severe fork dive and they bite too hard.
The mirrors belong on a coke heads table, they are fucking useless.
It wheelies ok, but I ended up wheeling it out of frustration.
Apparently its thirsty too….
The headlight does the job, bit like the girl next door-its nothing special.
The styling is ugly, and far too overdone.

So there you go, another American piece of shit that misses the mark badly, and should be used as a urinal.

This Guy (Girl more like it) obviously doesn't know how to ride and must have either just got his full license and has no big boys bike experience or is an old timer who just retired and is getting back into it and has forgotten how to ride a good bike.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Funny thing the advertising about triple plating and chrome - good chrome is all triple plated - this refers to the 2 base coats (forget what the first one is, then nickle) and the final third 'chrome' coating.

I believe if you are a cheap arse you can ditch one of the first two. Also a consideration is the time spent in the coating baths as this dictates the thickness of the coating.

But first the chrome is only as good as the metal polishing under it - a chrome turd will still be lumpy unless you have polished it smooth first.



Dunno enough about it (obviously)...but I do know that the Japanese manufacturers don't seem to be able to get chrome to stick to aluminium for any great length of time as compared to HD.

[carver]

I dismissed this thread as a big wank earlier today and then re-read it this evening.

While I agree with most that modern bikes are all very good (and well beyond my average abilities) the Buell offers a definite option to the other 20k ish sports bikes.

Reading between the lines of the original post (Big Dave does not need to worry about his job here) if you consider that this IS Buells response to the GSXR, CBR, R1 etc and Crasher actually rides (on one wheel anyway - pick a wheel!) a GSXR then there is some substance to the comment 'could not wait to get back on my bike'.

Personal tastes really and a hour in the seat of a bike set up by god knows who is never more than an indication of it's potential.

What I question most about the 1125 is how do Harley justify it's low price? Considering compared to the big bore twins they produce in mass at $25-$30k (plus) how do they price the relatively low production, high spec 1125 for $20K?
Is chrome really that expensive?

yeah, your right on the personal opinion, i guess i just expected so much better, the local harley shop seemed to think it was pretty good.


there is no way to talk yourself out of the huge fuckup you made dissing the buell mate.

we all know its a great bike, not only that but great value.

its a shame you don't have the skills to get the most out of it.

i have met you at the kiwi, i have offered you support on tours ( it still stands ) and i like what you do with your vids and reviews, but you simply got it wrong this time.

I suggest that you get on another buell ( the cr or whatever, does not make a difference ) and try again, when you learn to ride a twin and come back with a similar opinion to everybody else we can take your crit seriously. until then you are mugging yourself.

dude, your misunderstanding me
im not digging at you, im justified in saying what i have, its rare for me to get a bike i want to get off and stop riding, but this was one.
i would not slag it off if i didnt think it deserved it.
i would actually like to ride another buell, i have a offer to re-build a old 9x and charge the parts back and use it for a while.
i have ridden and owned plenty of bikes, i have no problems riding a twin, in fact, i love parallels to be honest, and triples.
when i ride a bike like this, i keep a open mind, but i could not like this bike, its just not sorted enough.
i ride a 8 year old GSXR 1000 with 54,000kms on it, and when i brought it, i loved it straight away because it was


smooth
mechanically tight
east to ride slow
easy to ride fast
lots of down low grunt


i brought i and paid cash after 15 min of riding it.
i didn't need ages to like it, you either like it or you dont, and i didnt

which is a shame.
but dont take it personally.


This Guy (Girl more like it) obviously doesn't know how to ride and must have either just got his full license and has no big boys bike experience or is an old timer who just retired and is getting back into it and has forgotten how to ride a good bike.

hahahahahahahaha.........
talk to beyond about me, go on, ask him.


Dunno enough about it (obviously)...but I do know that the Japanese manufacturers don't seem to be able to get chrome to stick to aluminium for any great length of time as compared to HD.

apparently triumph have the best chrome plating.
just what i have heard around.

[Crasherfromwayback]

apparently triumph have the best chrome plating.
just what i have heard around.

I sold both side by side for years. It ain't so.

[carver]

I sold both side by side for years. It ain't so.

so you would find harley to be better?

[Crasherfromwayback]

so you would find harley to be better?

As far as the chrome thing goes...hell yeah.

[carver]

As far as the chrome thing goes...hell yeah.

interesting seeing as the brits use salt on their roads in winter.
why do you think i found the buell to be so....rubbish?

[McJim]

I think I'll save up and buy one.

[carver]

I think I'll save up and buy one.

haha....so long as you can get used to the FUCKING ANNOYING fans

[McJim]

haha....so long as you can get used to the FUCKING ANNOYING fans

Hey, I'm me. I have to put up with annoying fans all the time :rofl: Fame baby, fame. :rofl:

[carver]

Hey, I'm me. I have to put up with annoying fans all the time :rofl: Fame baby, fame. :rofl:

you should ride one!

[Drogen Omen]

hahahahahahahaha.........
talk to beyond about me, go on, ask him.

k so guess your the retired old timer then... who has obviously got more knowledge about bikes than anyone else. but for some reason doesn't know how to ride a Buell. hahahah

oh wait just remembered ur a GSXR rider... hahahaha typical Boy Racer (sorry meant to say Gay Racer)... small cocks if any...

Clearly you had it in your mind that the Buell was shit before you even got on it there for your experience on the bike was already decided before you even sat on it, next time get on a bike with an open mind and that all bikes aren't the same as your GSXR. hahahaha that still makes me laugh... :laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

interesting seeing as the brits use salt on their roads in winter.
why do you think i found the buell to be so....rubbish?

The 'Brits' also drink tepid beer.

Because I think you're trying way too hard to show us all how good you are as a rider. I mean hello? a 450 motocrosser has an "on or off" power delivery or whatever it was you said in the 'test'?

[riffer]

The 'Brits' also drink tepid beer.

Because I think you're trying way too hard to show us all how good you are as a rider. I mean hello? a 450 motocrosser has an "on or off" power delivery or whatever it was you said in the 'test'?

A-hem. I seem to recall my 400cc 2-stroke motorcrosser did...

[carver]

k so guess your the retired old timer then... who has obviously got more knowledge about bikes than anyone else. but for some reason doesn't know how to ride a Buell. hahahah

oh wait just remembered ur a GSXR rider... hahahaha typical Boy Racer (sorry meant to say Gay Racer)... small cocks if any...

Clearly you had it in your mind that the Buell was shit before you even got on it there for your experience on the bike was already decided before you even sat on it, next time get on a bike with an open mind and that all bikes aren't the same as your GSXR. hahahaha that still makes me laugh... :laugh:

oh, so there is a special way to ride a buell?
can you do anything but personally attack me?
nope, your wong there too, i wanted to like the buell, i love naked's and i love twins, but the buell was so disappointing, i wanted to leave it there and collect my old hi k's gixxer cause in 2009, buell still aint at, where suzuki were in 2001.

even the SV1000 was better than this!


The 'Brits' also drink tepid beer.

Because I think you're trying way too hard to show us all how good you are as a rider. I mean hello? a 450 motocrosser has an "on or off" power delivery or whatever it was you said in the 'test'?

you cant hold it on a neutral throttle, its like a 2 stoke, it will just keep hunting

[Crasherfromwayback]

A-hem. I seem to recall my 400cc 2-stroke motorcrosser did...

As did my RM400 mate. But I do believe he's talkin 'bout a modern 450 4 stroke.

[carver]

As did my RM400 mate. But I do believe he's talkin 'bout a modern 450 4 stroke.

i mean in that same sense too.
im thinking CRF450R

[Crasherfromwayback]

you cant hold it on a neutral throttle, its like a 2 stoke, it will just keep hunting

None of the 450 moto-x bikes I've ridden do that.

[carver]

None of the 450 moto-x bikes I've ridden do that.

i found the 450x to be like that especially.its not terrible, the older KX's etc were worse, but the buell parallels the 450x in my mind

[carver]

None of the 450 moto-x bikes I've ridden do that.

oh, hang on, do you sell buells?

[Crasherfromwayback]

oh, hang on, do you sell buells?

Yep! And I've worked with Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Yamaha, Triumph, BMW, Suzuki and obviously Harleys as well.

[carver]

Yep! And I've worked with Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Yamaha, Triumph, BMW, Suzuki and obviously Harleys as well.

what brand did you have the most issues with?
older kawasaki's?

[Crusty]

Someone should tell Peter Jackson that when they finished filming Lord Of The Rings, one of the Trolls got left behind.

[carver]

Someone should tell Peter Jackson that when they finished filming Lord Of The Rings, one of the Trolls got left behind.

haha, oh look, you own a buell too!:baby:

[davebullet]

What form of ECU fuel injection tuning is available on the Buell? Sounds like to me a lumpy low end throttle is misaligned fuel metering. Mid size twins can be made relatively smooth down low, so presume a well balanced racing version of a larger twin would be no lumpier...

[kiwifruit]

even the SV1000 was better than this!



thats a bit harsh! :lol:

If you get the chance to ride one round a race track give it a go....
I was most impressed with Blackbuell's 1125 round Taupo. Set off on it thinking it would probably be HORRID like the "old" buells, not the case. First gear is really tall! Loved the slipper clutch, felt like a two stroke when off the gas, bang it down as many as you like coming into a corner, really light lever action too. The Brakes worked really well, great feel and biblically(tm) powerful. I found myself going faster and faster as the laps went on, chassis felt great. Motor was impressive too, pulled right thru to redline (or what i think was redline, the clocks were vibrating that much!), didn't get dropped (ok, but only a few metres) by a 1098 down the back straight.

[Drogen Omen]

the engine fired up and idled at 3500 rpm,
The engine needs revs to keep going, it lugs badly below about 4000 Rpm.

The one you rode must have been faulty... cause the one i rode sat at 1000RPM on idle and was fine at slow traffic jam speeds, i managed to make it crawl under 5km and revs were round 1000rpm to 1500rpm, as i am short the only thing i found was that the bike was too tall for me, could only ti pi toe on one side.

[Scouse]

i am short the only thing i found was that the bike was too tall for me, could only ti pi toe on one side.Ah so thats your Fookin Problem, youv'e got Napolean Syndrome

[Drogen Omen]

Ah so thats your Fookin Problem, youv'e got Napolean Syndrome

...??? Hey just cause I'm short doesnt mean i cant enjoy riding bikes... Whats the hight equivalent of Racist...?

Would have got me a Street triple if i had the $, but cc for $ was cheaper to get a Buell. 1200cc Buell for $14k compared to 675cc Street triple for $19k...

What is every ones problem with Buell's...? or are you guy's just Blindly Brand loyal...?

[buellbabe]

Well I have yet to ride a Buell that I am not instantly comfortable on but have to admit that the 1125R (haven't ridden the CR...yet) just wasn't my cupatea...although I didn't have any of the issues described in the first post.
I found the front brake to be the usual full-on buell brake (jeez did no-one warn ya???) I thought everyone knew they are aggressive? But the rear took me by surprise, was alot more grabby than I'm used to...and that made for an embarrassing wobble around a 35km corner...shame!

As for lugging under 4000rpm...thats because its supposed to be revving alot higher than that...it was a while since I rode the R but from memory I think its supposed to be around5/6000.
So don't blame the bike...YOU were in the wrong gear...surely the lugging was a pretty clear signal??? Why is that the bikes fault?

I found the R to be a heavy ride until it was full noise and then it really came into its own and those ponies certainly kicked their heels up! So what if it doesn't have the same top speed as an R1 of a Gixxer? Its not claiming to be another clone.

Its different and it certainly doesn't suit everyones tastes.

Oh and the R model is doing really well in the AMA sportbike series. In fact it came first in a butt-kicking round just recently.

[Pwalo]

Oh and the R model is doing really well in the AMA sportbike series. In fact it came first in a butt-kicking round just recently.

Don't forget that the AMA Daytona spec allows the Buell to run against Japanese 600's, Aprilia 1000s, and the Ducati 848, so I'm not convinced that that's particularly impressive. But I am disturbed that I find the CR kind of attractive.

[carver]

thats a bit harsh! :lol:

If you get the chance to ride one round a race track give it a go....
I was most impressed with Blackbuell's 1125 round Taupo. Set off on it thinking it would probably be HORRID like the "old" buells, not the case. First gear is really tall! Loved the slipper clutch, felt like a two stroke when off the gas, bang it down as many as you like coming into a corner, really light lever action too. The Brakes worked really well, great feel and biblically(tm) powerful. I found myself going faster and faster as the laps went on, chassis felt great. Motor was impressive too, pulled right thru to redline (or what i think was redline, the clocks were vibrating that much!), didn't get dropped (ok, but only a few metres) by a 1098 down the back straight.

haha, now there is something i left out, the gear shift action is great!

sounds like you had a ball on it, pity we have no local race track here-oh wait, it starts at my front door!

oh, and i aint ridden old buells-are they worse?


The one you rode must have been faulty... cause the one i rode sat at 1000RPM on idle and was fine at slow traffic jam speeds, i managed to make it crawl under 5km and revs were round 1000rpm to 1500rpm, as i am short the only thing i found was that the bike was too tall for me, could only ti pi toe on one side.

true?
anything under 3000rpm and it was surging and just unhappy!


Well I have yet to ride a Buell that I am not instantly comfortable on but have to admit that the 1125R (haven't ridden the CR...yet) just wasn't my cupatea...although I didn't have any of the issues described in the first post.
I found the front brake to be the usual full-on buell brake (jeez did no-one warn ya???) I thought everyone knew they are aggressive? But the rear took me by surprise, was alot more grabby than I'm used to...and that made for an embarrassing wobble around a 35km corner...shame!

As for lugging under 4000rpm...thats because its supposed to be revving alot higher than that...it was a while since I rode the R but from memory I think its supposed to be around5/6000.
So don't blame the bike...YOU were in the wrong gear...surely the lugging was a pretty clear signal??? Why is that the bikes fault?

I found the R to be a heavy ride until it was full noise and then it really came into its own and those ponies certainly kicked their heels up! So what if it doesn't have the same top speed as an R1 of a Gixxer? Its not claiming to be another clone.

Its different and it certainly doesn't suit everyones tastes.

Oh and the R model is doing really well in the AMA sportbike series. In fact it came first in a butt-kicking round just recently.

i never bitched about the top speed!

wrong gear, i found first to be the lowest it would go unsurprisingly, and it still had to be at 4000rpm to give any resemblance of being smooth.

i would rather hitch-hike with the village people than buy this!

the honda predator is far better than this, and by so much!

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Don't forget that the AMA Daytona spec allows the Buell to run against Japanese 600's, Aprilia 1000s, and the Ducati 848, so I'm not convinced that that's particularly impressive. But I am disturbed that I find the CR kind of attractive.

dont be disturbed, we could have dinner some time! :clap:

[Crusty]

haha, oh look, you own a buell too!:baby:

I've owned four. The first, a '98 S3-T had 60,000 miles on it when I traded it in on a 2000 M2. The M2 had 55,000 miles on it when I bought my '06 XB12X Ulysses. I kept it for two years and 34,000 miles, then traded it in for an '08 Xb12XT. I've only managed to put 14,000 miles on it since I bought it last May.
Yes, I'm loyal to Buells. They've earned my loyalty.
I've owned motorcycles from England, Italy, Germany, Japan and the USA. I've been riding 40 years, and I love ALL kinds of motorcycles.
But I can recognize a troll when one surfaces.

[Dazza]

Hey carver, go test ride an older Buell & see what ya think. I test rode the 1125R (was supposed to be the CR but wasn't ready for demos as they where changing the bars & stuff, not much point in having 2 bikes with the same riding position) yesterday after being after a ride 12mths ago but they wouldn't allow it is the fuelling was rubbish below 5000 RPM, same bike nearly 12mths later & the fuelling is much improved, still hunts aroung 5000 RPM, & agreed the mirrors are shit. But to me these are a neat bike, the motor is f'n awesome & she's a good bang for buck bike. Go buy the Predator, it's different strokes for different folks.

[carver]

Hey carver, go test ride an older Buell & see what ya think. I test rode the 1125R (was supposed to be the CR but wasn't ready for demos as they where changing the bars & stuff, not much point in having 2 bikes with the same riding position) yesterday after being after a ride 12mths ago but they wouldn't allow it is the fuelling was rubbish below 5000 RPM, same bike nearly 12mths later & the fuelling is much improved, still hunts aroung 5000 RPM, & agreed the mirrors are shit. But to me these are a neat bike, the motor is f'n awesome & she's a good bang for buck bike. Go buy the Predator, it's different strokes for different folks.

wow, someone with a open mind, so there was a issue with the fueling eh?

this was one of the biggest issues with it.
i will try get my hands on a late model 12x if i can

[Dazza]

wow, someone with a open mind, so there was a issue with the fueling eh?

this was one of the biggest issues with it.
i will try get my hands on a late model 12x if i canAs I said there was an issue with this particular bike 11mths ago which appears now to be sorted (so it can be sorted), the surging @ 5000 RPM may have something to do with the emmission/certification thingy stuff !
Yeah, go ride a XB9/12 (nothing wrong with the fueling on the one I rode) & see if you can check out an even earlier model to see where these bikes have come from. I'm not a Buell owner so I'm no way speaking as a fan or past owner, I would suspect that alot of owners buy the older models for the engine characteristics (aswell as the chassis/handling of course) but the new engined 1125 is a damn fine engine which most certainly performs :cool:

[Big Dave]

What a load of crap.

I did 1000km on one and it's a great $20k motorcycle.
Wicked fast and brilliant handling.

Full report in KR - $10 at your news stand.

That is all I have to say about that. :-)

[BMWST?]

The front end disappeared as I sat on the bike, I turned on the key, and the fans started their fucking annoying whining before I even started the engine.
The ignition switch pressed, the engine fired up and idled at 3500 rpm, the dash proudly telling me this bike was made by Buell in Wisconsin.
On idle it sounds like a overlocker on full tilt.
The engine needs revs to keep going, it lugs badly below about 4000 Rpm.
It’s a bit like a 450 MX bike engine, your either on the gas or off it.
This bike is like fucking some annoying slut that wont shut up.
I found myself yelling at it to perform.
Its frustrating to ride, in town its terrible, on the open road its ok, nothing great.
It handles ok, the brakes are nothing, nothing, nothing…..then severe fork dive and they bite too hard.
The mirrors belong on a coke heads table, they are fucking useless.
It wheelies ok, but I ended up wheeling it out of frustration.
Apparently its thirsty too….
The headlight does the job, bit like the girl next door-its nothing special.
The styling is ugly, and far too overdone.

So there you go, another American piece of shit that misses the mark badly, and should be used as a urinal.

as a review for someone who actually wants to know what whats about this bike this test is hopeless.Your opinion of the bike comes across loud and clear in the first sentence.You dont say anything that i can form an opinion on

[carver]

What a load of crap.

I did 1000km on one and it's a great $20k motorcycle.
Wicked fast and brilliant handling.

Full report in KR - $10 at your news stand.

That is all I have to say about that. :-)

all i have to say about KR is that your a load of greasers who never seem to find anything bad with any bike.


as a review for someone who actually wants to know what whats about this bike this test is hopeless.Your opinion of the bike comes across loud and clear in the first sentence.You dont say anything that i can form an opinion on

my style-straight, harsh and clear.

[buellbabe]

I own an old Buell and I love it but how to explain that 'x-factor' thing to a person who obviously doesn't like Buells and never will.

My old girl has done over 120,000kms (not nana kms either!) and, for me, still is the most fun bike ever. She may be an old model but because Erik was so forward thinking the X1 was and still is, in a class of its own.

[BMWST?]

my style-straight, harsh and clear.

OK that may be so but its not a "TEST".You dont mention the fuelling issues(although it does come up later in teh thread but you didnt bring it up) you dont say what issues with the handling make it less than desireable IYO...its just a rant

[carver]

I own an old Buell and I love it but how to explain that 'x-factor' thing to a person who obviously doesn't like Buells and never will.

My old girl has done over 120,000kms (not nana kms either!) and, for me, still is the most fun bike ever. She may be an old model but because Erik was so forward thinking the X1 was and still is, in a class of its own.

i didn't like this one, if old ones are worse then i wont like them either.


OK that may be so but its not a "TEST".You dont mention the fuelling issues(although it does come up later in teh thread but you didnt bring it up) you dont say what issues with the handling make it less than desireable IYO...its just a rant

how do i know if its fuelling?
nothing outstandingly good about the handling, for such a radical bike