WTF! Wild Hogs?

[rosie631]

Pulled into the petrol station this morning and noticed a guy filling up his harley. Had what looked like a gang patch on his back but when I got up close enough to see it read Christchurch Chapter Hog. Have the local Harley Owners Group been watching too many movies?? WTF??

[Headbanger]

Have the local Harley Owners Group been watching too many movies?? WTF??

I was under the impression that they took all their inspiration from American movies.

[wbks]

They watched too many bad comedy movies because they have "ChristChurch Chapter HOG" on the back of their vests?

[ducatilover]

Hairy Old Git?:yes:

[Headbanger]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.

[cave weta]

:corn:who's up first?

[awayatc]

MILD Hogs .....

Don't knock it till you try it....

In a cage were you?
We had a bloody good 5 hour blast to today......
on the bikes of course..

Would have been to fast to read patches then....

[rosie631]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.

LOL. That's about what it's coming to.

[scumdog]

Pulled into the petrol station this morning and noticed a guy filling up his harley. Had what looked like a gang patch on his back but when I got up close enough to see it read Christchurch Chapter Hog. Have the local Harley Owners Group been watching too many movies?? WTF??

Can't see any problem...

[ducatilover]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.

why not? Forks Under Charity Klan would be a good named

[MarkH]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.

I got a spork, can I join the Fork Owners Group, because the Spoon Owners Group say I don't qualify to join them! :crybaby:

[ducatilover]

I got a spork, can I join the Fork Owners Group, because the Spoon Owners Group say I don't qualify to join them! :crybaby:

Nah, thats like me in the black power

[Bonez]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.There'll be a fork que.

[awayatc]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.


Done 7000 kms this year on my Harley...
8 weeks out of this year I was at sea....

Haven't got a badge myself....
Mainly coz I can't sew....
Plenty of old Ladies on KB that could probably show me how....

[Headbanger]

Done 7000 kms this year on my Harley...


I'm an internet biker........:lol::lol::lol:

[awayatc]

I'm an internet biker........:lol::lol::lol:

Interknit...?


Just needling......:innocent:

[McJim]

So they're proud of their bikes - you shouldn't have bought a bike if you're not gonna be proud of it.

I have a Ducati hat, a Ducati T shirt and 2 Ducati keyrings. Plus I have a model of a Desmosedici and a Haynes Ducati Supersport service manual.

One day I'll buy a bike....

[Number 5]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.

Great, do you sell any spares, mine had three prongs and one broke off, doesn't handle right on only two prongs

[MarkH]

Great, do you sell any spares, mine had three prongs and one broke off, doesn't handle right on only two prongs

Three prongs? That's not a proper fork - a fork should have 4 prongs. With 3 prongs it isn't a fork, it's a trident.

[Laava]

Great, do you sell any spares, mine had three prongs and one broke off, doesn't handle right on only two prongs
Chinese fork? Tsk, tsk!

[Molly]

HOG have been around for years and have over a million members worldwide. They’re a factory sponsored social group (marketing exercise if you want to be cynical about it) but, most importantly, they raise MILLIONS of dollars for muscular dystrophy. It might not be your thing (it isn’t mine either) but each to their own.

That said, I did meet one HOG ‘cock’ on Saturday. I was stood looking at a particularly showy new Harley when this tool floated by and just said ‘55’. What he meant was that he had $55,000 in his bike. Now there was a f’kin’ tosser worth taking the piss out of (but that really wasn’t anything to do with his ‘HOGyness’ – he was just a prick).

[MarkH]

when this tool floated by and just said ‘55’.

You shoulda said - that is not an IQ to be proud of!

[McJim]

I get people ooohing and aaaahing over my bike and they always ask "How much is it worth?" when I say about $5,000 on a good day their jaws always drop. Funny.

[rosie631]

HOG have been around for years and have over a million members worldwide. They’re a factory sponsored social group (marketing exercise if you want to be cynical about it) but, most importantly, they raise MILLIONS of dollars for muscular dystrophy. It might not be your thing (it isn’t mine either) but each to their own.

That said, I did meet one HOG ‘cock’ on Saturday. I was stood looking at a particularly showy new Harley when this tool floated by and just said ‘55’. What he meant was that he had $55,000 in his bike. Now there was a f’kin’ tosser worth taking the piss out of (but that really wasn’t anything to do with his ‘HOGyness’ – he was just a prick).

True. I don't have a problem with HOG. It was just the huge patch thing that I found a bit bizarre. And yep that guy sounds like a real tool.

[Storm]

McJim -Y' mean they dont immediatly realise you're a tight arse Scotsman?
Put more emphasis on the accent man! Oots!

[Griffin]

So the Christchurch HOG guys have decided to make a patch for their jackets and show proudly that they belong to a specific group. Wow... thats really bad - what next?

Perhaps people over 40 will decide to form a group that only people over 40 can join - and then they will wear patches and badges to show there pride?

Then maybe Boulevard owners will go elitist and buy jackets with boulevard on them?

And yet other Cruiser owners will form a generic Motorcycle Cruiser Group for any brand of cruiser and offer patches, badges, caps and shirts to their members?

This might then take off and what next... gangs might get hold of the idea and start wearing patches and OMG... where will it ever end? :bash:

I say good on em for being part of a group they are proud to be members of.

[The Pastor]

STOP PRESS!

A patch on a jacket!

call the cops!

[smoky]

MILD Hogs .....
We had a bloody good 5 hour blast to today......
Would have been to fast to read patches then....

Surely you jest - I can kick most Harley's arse .... in my diesel van

But seriously are Harley's about two things; riding an awesome cruiser, and the image;

Just recently while on a blat around the South Island I met a guy on his Harley, nice guy but; he had a 'Harley gang patch' on his jacket, the bandana thing going on, tassels on his jacket and handle bars, studded side saddles and belt, huge as harley belt buckle - the image is as much of it as the riding for most Harley owners isn't it.

[Headbanger]

the image is as much of it as the riding for most Harley owners isn't it.

No more so then any other bike for the average rider I'd hope. We all buy bikes we like to be seen on, Its a fact, otherwise you wouldn't buy the damn thing.

I'd put those trying to live the American dream into another category entirely.And I doubt most HOG members display this extreme/fantasy behaviour.

[mdnzz]

for some it is all about appearence, but then again the same is said for a lot of sportbike owners, race replicas matching leathers etc.
it shouldn't be about they bike or what ya wear just that ya proud of machine and enjoy the outcomes.

[James Deuce]

Great, do you sell any spares, mine had three prongs and one broke off, doesn't handle right on only two prongs
They're not prongs, they're tines.

You can't join.

[Headbanger]

The best thing about HOG and people who wear American Flag bandanna's is I get to run with the Kiwibiker crowd and mock Harley owners.

And at the end of the day that's what its all about isn't it?

[Trumpess]

Each to there own re patches on jackets!
Hog or not.
What ever makes their little worlds go round a little better.
There are many strange things that pop up from time to time, just to plant a smile on your dial.

[duckonin]

His life his jacket, so what,!!! "get a life" leave others to theirs.....:whocares:

[idb]

Just recently while on a blat around the South Island I met a guy on his Harley, nice guy but; he had a 'Harley gang patch' on his jacket, the bandana thing going on, tassels on his jacket and handle bars, studded side saddles and belt, huge as harley belt buckle - the image is as much of it as the riding for most Harley owners isn't it.

Did he come from Balclutha by any chance?

[MarkH]

Just recently while on a blat around the South Island I met a guy on his Harley, nice guy but; he had a 'Harley gang patch' on his jacket, the bandana thing going on, tassels on his jacket and handle bars, studded side saddles and belt, huge as harley belt buckle - the image is as much of it as the riding for most Harley owners isn't it.

It wasn't Scumdog was it? I know he rides a Harley and has tassels on his jacket, not too sure on the rest.

[cave weta]

Loving this thread !:corn:
Its just what I needed.


Ive got an orange bike - but I ride it up in the hills so no one sees me but the goats and the deer.
I wear a rugby jersey and gumboots some days..... the lack of peer pressure is just so sublime!

[Storm]

Just recently while on a blat around the South Island I met a guy on his Harley, nice guy but; he had a 'Harley gang patch' on his jacket, the bandana thing going on, tassels on his jacket and handle bars, studded side saddles and belt, huge as harley belt buckle

So did you enjoy meeting the south islands most famous streaking copper Scumdog then? :bleh:

[Finn]

I've got a patch on the back of my jacket too. Dainese. Mock it and you'll get a jolly good Spidi glove slapping.

[smoky]

Each to their own - but we can still have some fun at other people expense ... can't we?

[smoky]

It's all about the bike - honest

[ducatilover]

hmmm:eek5:

[buellbabe]

Like someone else said...HOG have been around for ages, actually since 1983... and the back patches (rockers) as well as the side patches have been around just as long...
The back patches are very popular in the states but due to conflict with some of the existing "clubs" throughout Australasia the rockers were taken off the market for us troublesome kiwis and aussies.

Then about 5-ish years ago they became available again. You won't see one on the back of EVERY HOG members jacket but if they wanna wear it proudly then good for them. Personally I think its asking for trouble from the 1%rs but thats another whole thread LOL.

I'm proud of what I choose to ride but my personal preference is for no badges OR patches aside from the one R.I.P. in memory of my dear departed.

[rosie631]

I got a spork, can I join the Fork Owners Group, because the Spoon Owners Group say I don't qualify to join them! :crybaby:

I'm afraid you don't qualify as a spoon owner or a fork owner. But don't worry, just start your own group for spork owners. U can call it SOG. :cool:

[MarkH]

Perhaps people over 40 will decide to form a group that only people over 40 can join - and then they will wear patches and badges to show there pride?

They could name themselves OBOB - Old Buggers on Bikes. They could come up with a good saying to put on their patches, maybe "Get off my lawn you little punk!".

[pritch]

I was under the impression that they took all their inspiration from American movies.

True!

To quote Peter Egan who was describing a group of 1%ers, the only unfriendly people he met in Godzone, "Life imitates artlessness".

[pritch]

They could name themselves OBOB - Old Buggers on Bikes. They could come up with a good saying to put on their patches, maybe "Get off my lawn you little punk!".

Or they could call it Ulysses and have a saying like "Grow old disgracefully"?

A year or so ago the Oz Ulysses were to have their AGM at Canberra. The local gang members told the Ulysses organisers that any rider wearing a patch would have it forcibly removed.

Big patches aren't my style, but wearing one can cause problems.

[idb]

Surely those big bad bikers wouldn't do anything nasty to cute widdle Patches!!!???

[LBD]

If he had seen the movie he would be to embarrased to wear the patch...

[awayatc]

If he had seen the movie he would be to embarrased to wear the patch...

I'd be to embarrased to say iwas from Kyrgyz

[scumdog]

So did you enjoy meeting the south islands most famous streaking copper Scumdog then? :bleh:

Make up yer mind: Am I nekkid or am I festooned with tassles and Harley badges...:whistle::rofl:

[Molly]

Best thing about HOG for me was the free membership they threw in with my new Harley. I put the patches on TradeMe and got $55 to spend on beer!

My jacket has KTM on it because, well, it's a KTM jacket... Never owned a KTM or even wanted to but it's a fine piece of kit. Got a Harley patch on my bath robe though. :-)

[awayatc]

Bathrobe...?

My wife and daughters use hem to....

Yours pink as well?

[rosie631]

Make up yer mind: Am I nekkid or am I festooned with tassles and Harley badges...:whistle::rofl:

LOL. U tell us.

[scumdog]

Funny how the 'owners' of certain patches and are those that spout on about 'freedom' are the very ones that won't allow the freedom for other to wear a patch of their own eh??

[Ecclesnz]

Make up yer mind: Am I nekkid or am I festooned with tassles and Harley badges...:whistle::rofl:

Perhaps the _only_ things you were wearing were your badges and tassles?

:wacko::dodge:

[LBD]

I'd be to embarrased to say iwas from Kyrgyz


And thats the opinions of a bloke living in a town where they used to sell beer by the pound?....(I used to live down the beach)

[idb]

Funny how the 'owners' of certain patches and are those that spout on about 'freedom' are the very ones that won't allow the freedom for other to wear a patch of their own eh??

I like the way that so many of them want to be an individual...just like everyone else...

[Conquiztador]

Not everyone want to be seen with a patch/rocker on their back. Only the ones who are proud to belong. Be that a 1% or a social group like HOG.

Personally I have no desire to join HOG, Ulysses or any other social group where the social aspect is the main focus and the bikes take 2'nd place (even if the bikes are close to the first one).

In my view the patch belongs to the ones who have earnt the right to wear it, not the ones who have the money to buy it. Where I come from, when you had the full patch you had proven your worth and been accepted. It could take years.

I therefore consider the "Wild Hog" rockers to be worthless. But that is clearly only my view and if someone wants to wear them it won't change my sleeping habits.

I would also never wear a T shirt with a bike brand that I did not own. But in NZ that is very common. There are punks walking around with HD, Triumph, Norton and others on T's that would not know them from a Ferguson tractor.

[MarkH]

Or they could call it Ulysses and have a saying like "Grow old disgracefully"?

Hmmm, I don't know if that would work.

You know, IF they had a group called 'Old Buggers on Bikes' there could be another group for 40 years old and above that ride Hondas - they could call themselves 'Old Buggerers on Bikes'.

Maybe Kiwibikers could have their own patch?


Of course I am only joking around, I'm thinking of popping down to the club night tonight to join Ulysses actually.

[smoky]

Gangs or clubs?

[Molly]

Bathrobe...?
My wife and daughters use them to....
Yours pink as well?
No, blue.



I would also never wear a T shirt with a bike brand that I did not own.
Shit... I've got t-shirts with Fiat 500s, VW, JCB (defo don't own one of them) Triumph, etc. etc. Don't see that it matters.


Gangs or clubs?
Black Label Society's a band (spin-off for Ozzy's guitarist, Zakk Wylde) Hells Angels use the term 'club' but I think that's for legal reasons. Read in the weekend's paper that they're looking to get a foothold in Nelson but I'm sure HOG will drive them out (I saw it in a movie once).

[idb]

.....

Maybe Kiwibikers could have their own patch?
....

We don't need a patch, just a special wave so that we can all recognise each other.
Hmmm....that gives me a great idea!!!!

[Headbanger]

Gangs or clubs?

There is no distinction made between the "tag", Its the actions of the gang/club that matters.

Just ask yourself which of those shown support themselves through crime.

[scumdog]

Haven't seen too many patched as per top right emblem...

[Number 5]

They're not prongs, they're tines.

You can't join.

Huh, more elitists, and I suppose it has to be silver, stainless steel not good enough huh!!!!!!!!! LoL

[FLYMO]

ive seen lots of farm machinery with warning labels like (wide load) and (oversize)..(too Much chrome).easy to read too

[rwh]

That said, I did meet one HOG ‘cock’ on Saturday. I was stood looking at a particularly showy new Harley when this tool floated by and just said ‘55’. What he meant was that he had $55,000 in his bike. Now there was a f’kin’ tosser worth taking the piss out of (but that really wasn’t anything to do with his ‘HOGyness’ – he was just a prick).

Nod wisely, and ask "... horsepower or kilowatts?"

Or is that too realistic?

Richard

[ducatilover]

Nod wisely, and ask "... horsepower or kilowatts?"

Or is that too realistic?

Richard

far too realistic mate:msn-wink:

[Storm]

In my view the patch belongs to the ones who have earnt the right to wear it, not the ones who have the money to buy it.

And thats what gets so many peoples backs up isnt it ?Money talks and bullshit rides

[rosie631]

And thats what gets so many peoples backs up isnt it ?Money talks and bullshit rides
U r so right.

[James Deuce]

Huh, more elitists, and I suppose it has to be silver, stainless steel not good enough huh!!!!!!!!! LoL

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing properly. Being in FOG isn't a hobby, it's a way of life.

[rosie631]

In my view the patch belongs to the ones who have earnt the right to wear it, not the ones who have the money to buy it. Where I come from, when you had the full patch you had proven your worth and been accepted. It could take years.

I therefore consider the "Wild Hog" rockers to be worthless. But that is clearly only my view and if someone wants to wear them it won't change my sleeping habits

This is really the point I was trying to make with this thread. Conquiztador is more eloquent than I am.:yes:

[smoky]

I guess it's the same as when you see someone with a real sports bike - R1 or GSXR1000 type of bike - tricked out with carbon fiber, competition pipes and race breed stickers all over it, they're wearing a one piece leather suit with the cone thing on the back - absolutely looking the part
'Geee' You think, 'he looks like he can ride'

Then they fall of at the first sign of a real corner, or lock up the front brake and head accross the road instead of around the corner - and you soon realise they can't ride to save themselves.

Or those people who buy a full on off road 4x4 - and the biggest bump they ever go over is the occasional curb

[Tank]

In my view the patch belongs to the ones who have earnt the right to wear it, not the ones who have the money to buy it. Where I come from, when you had the full patch you had proven your worth and been accepted. It could take years.

I therefore consider the "Wild Hog" rockers to be worthless. But that is clearly only my view and if someone wants to wear them it won't change my sleeping habits.


I think that there is a world of difference between a 'HOG' patch / rocker and one that has to be 'earnt'.

I cannot see how people get 'huffed up' like the OP about the HOG patches - so what - they are a club - its not that much different to having printed t-shirts for the kids soccer team.

Its the scum with the 'real' patches - the ones that are earnt by robbery, assaulting people, dealing drugs, going to jail, gang rape - they are the people that should be getting our scorn - not the normal every day father who likes to ride with a group of like minded guys and likes Harleys.

[awayatc]

well said Tank....

A patch that needs to be "earned"....... what a load of ******

All the people with "hog" patches earned their money to buy their bikes.....
They all work and pay tax.
Oh and I love the weekly runs..... a whole heap of Harleys thundering through the countryside....
And no they are not hanging around either...

And I love the wednesday evening rides, thursday nanarides, any sort of ride realy....
I will go on Any ride, anywhere anytime, except with lowlives that have to "earn" their patch.....I am honest, and proud of it.

Get badges from rallies, seen identical shirts from various clubs, hell I even get shirts from work with their "logo"....
When does a logo become a patch?

[Headbanger]

When does a logo become a patch?

When you put it over a hole.:lol:

[allycatz]

Well dont think ill get a patch for me scooter jacket. "50today" isnt what I'd wanna advertise really

[Conquiztador]

A patch that needs to be "earned"....... what a load of ******



In your world that might be so and I respect your look at things. Sadly the same is happening in the MC world as anywhere else, that the minority who are doing the shit are the ones who get the headlight.

But look at it this way: Where you have to earn the right to be part of that club the rest of the members will know you and be able to trust you. And that includes your riding abilities. I am always very reluctant to ride in a big group with riders I have no idea of who they are or how they ride. I will therefore always ride last when with some riders I don't know.

In a HOG scenario there is often a big group of riders and many of them have resently bought a new shiny toy. The only requirement to be part of that group is to own the HD and have the HOG emblem on you. Suddenly you are part of the brotherhood and ride at 120k/h+ on 400Kg of steel. And the only thing you had to do is to buy your self in.

[awayatc]

You are completey right conquiztador.....
If you ever see the Christchurch "HOG" gaggle thundering by.....I am the one at the end......

As far as riding skills go.... that is indeed a trust that needs to be earned..and even then, shit always can happen.
I don't trust anybody with my life as much as I trust mysef .

It is the "club" /gangmembers that "earn" their patches , and threaten to rip of "Ulysses" patches that get my blood going a bit...

I fully realise that every club has membership criterea.....
which is perfectly acceptable ,as long as those criterea are not detrimental to others.....

[scumdog]

Y

It is the "club" /gangmembers that "earn" their patches , and threaten to rip of "Ulysses" patches that get my blood going a bit...

I fully realise that every club has membership criterea.....
which is perfectly acceptable ,as long as those criterea are not detrimental to others.....

I AGREE!!!

Live and let live sadly doesn't seem to be part of the loser-bikers credo..

[reofix]

The film was an absolute travesty... the reality of mild hogs is far far worse.:Oops:

[mdnzz]

It is the "club" /gangmembers that "earn" their patches , and threaten to rip of "Ulysses" patches that get my blood going a bit...

I fully realise that every club has membership criterea.....
which is perfectly acceptable ,as long as those criterea are not detrimental to others.....

I would have to wonder as too why they feel so threatened by a group of 'older enthusiasts' that would probably have more members than themselves that are not there to take over their turf or bust in on their illicit money earnings?

While it would be nice to believe that club have criteria that is not detrimental to others it is sadly not too be. Many clubs will gladly put down other clubs in any form they feel required so that they can make themselves feel bigger and better in their self inflated egotistical worlds

[Storm]

Many clubs will gladly put down other clubs in any form they feel required so that they can make themselves feel bigger and better in their self inflated egotistical worlds

Oh come on now! Next you'll be saying people badmouth harleys to make them feel better about themselves/their bikes :bleh:

[mdnzz]

Oh come on now! Next you'll be saying people badmouth harleys to make them feel better about themselves/their bikes :bleh:

Never, most people I know generally enjoy the Harley's even if they don't own/ride one.

However, Sport bike owners well..............nuff said:dodge:

[Molly]

The worst things about clubs, from the local pigeon fanciers to the bowling club, to a bike club, are the self-important arseholes who have no sense of the whole fish / pond perspective thing. So you’re ‘on the committee’? You’re a ‘life member’? You’re the ‘road captain’? Who gives a fuck y'dick...

[idb]

The worst things about clubs, from the local pigeon fanciers to the bowling club, to a bike club, are the self-important arseholes who have no sense of the whole fish / pond perspective thing. So you’re ‘on the committee’? You’re a ‘life member’? You’re the ‘road captain’? Who gives a fuck y'dick...

Yowch!!!!
Have you been kicked out of a club by any chance?

[Molly]

No. Never been a 'joiner' in the first place.

[smoky]

The worst things about clubs, from the local pigeon fanciers to the bowling club, to a bike club, are the self-important arseholes who have no sense of the whole fish / pond perspective thing. So you’re ‘on the committee’? You’re a ‘life member’? You’re the ‘road captain’? Who gives a fuck y'dick...

I couldn't agree more

Seems to be a small minded short persons way of feeling important
I love it when you go to the 'club meeting' and there's a chairman, secretary and scribe who takes minutes - and the chairman has a little hammer in his hand to keep things on track - it was the local tennis club in a small town I lived in for a while - ITS ONLY BLOODY TENNIS
:rofl:

[scumdog]

I couldn't agree more

Seems to be a small minded short persons way of feeling important
I love it when you go to the 'club meeting' and there's a chairman, secretary and scribe who takes minutes - and the chairman has a little hammer in his hand to keep things on track - it was the local tennis club in a small town I lived in for a while - ITS ONLY BLOODY TENNIS
:rofl:

Yeah but ya know how stroppy those tennis players can be...

[Conquiztador]

Yeah but ya know how stroppy those tennis players can be...

I hear that there is a 3 year prospecting required before you get the headband

[awayatc]

you come with your headband on our court and we will rip it off.......

[buellbabe]

[QUOTE=awayatc;2016732]well said Tank....

All the people with "hog" patches earned their money to buy their bikes.....
They all work and pay tax.
QUOTE]

True and I also agree with another comment made about riding in a group of people who have bought the bike but don't yet have the skills... Personally I try to avoid riding with 'unknowns'.

[QUOTE=awayatc;2016732]
Oh and I love the weekly runs..... a whole heap of Harleys thundering through the countryside....
And no they are not hanging around either...

And I love the wednesday evening rides, thursday nanarides, any sort of ride realy....
QUOTE]

I have been a HOG member for a long time but stopped going on the club rides long before I got the Buell cos I got frustrated with being hemmed in by people who just wouldn't pass cars even when it was completely safe to do so. Oh and sitting on 110kph ALL day just kills me on the Buell ( I persevered but had to admit defeat cos its just so uncomfortable for me ).
But get a few of them on their own away from the official club rides and those HDs get a thrashing LOL.

Funny thing is that I have a couple of mates who both ride HDs with BIG ape-hangers and whenever we go for a ride they say to me "take off if ya want, we will see ya there". But I just smile and say "its no biggie, I choose to ride with you guys so I am gonna ride WITH you". Actually I secretly love riding behind these 2 blokes and perving at them LOL.

[QUOTE=awayatc;2016732]
I will go on Any ride, anywhere anytime, except with lowlives that have to "earn" their patch.....I am honest, and proud of it.
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I won't ride with lowlives either but not ALL MC members are lowlives. Some of them would fall more into the 'likeable rogue' category. I know people who belong to patched clubs. We have a beer and a laugh occasionally and sometimes I'll do their poker runs...biker politics is never discussed. They are just people who ride as far as I am concerned.

[smoky]

I won't ride with lowlives either but not ALL MC members are lowlives. .... ... They are just people who ride as far as I am concerned.

When I was a teenager I kicked around on my Triumph with some mates who were in the H66

Now days I don't choose to associate with people if I know they are steeling, dealing drugs, gang banging, or live off the proceeds of such activities.
But I also don't want to go around making valued judgments about people I know nothing about - purely on the basis of appearances.
There is the argument that if one wants to parade around in a gang patch, and benefit from the intimidation value it brings, then they should take the discrimination that it also attracts.
Mind you I know plenty of respectable looking people who are up to their eyeballs in illegal activities, or living off the proceeds from it.

Should I make valued judgements about them as well?
I don't think life is that black and white, and life is too short to live like that

[Conquiztador]

When I was a teenager I kicked around on my Triumph with some mates who were in the H66



Wonder what they did with the 5 later on? Or perhaps they went down a new road...

[smoky]

Wonder what they did with the 5 later on? Or perhaps they went down a new road...

Opps lost count - H61
They were pretty harmless except to themselves, we got pissed a lot, got stoned a lot, got into fights a lot - then my bike got stolen

[NSR-Dan]

Nah, thats like me in the black power

I dont understand black power, most of them a maori and they prance around in there patch which represents white supremacy.

[Tank]

I dont understand black power, most of them a maori and they prance around in there patch which represents white supremacy.

I dont understand Black power.

I like working, I like being a good person, I like being successful. I cant understand aspiring to be a bigger piece of shit.

[scumdog]

I dont understand Black power.

I like working, I like being a good person, I like being successful. I cant understand aspiring to be a bigger piece of shit.

"must spread some reputation...."

[Conquiztador]

Went to fill up petrol just before midningt last night at a local BP. As I was standing there waiting to pay a young part maori chap, max 20, came in. He was what I would call handsome, fit and had nice teeth. (Stop it, I am just observant!!!) Was dressed in black and red. He gave a pretty girl about same age $50 so she could pay for their petrol. Her language was plesant, she was well dressed and I got the impression that she was from a decent family and she had some sort of education.

Nothing strange there. Apart from that on one side of the young chaps face he had the MM tattoo. It covered whole that side of the face.

Two things went through my head:

1. What is a girl like her doing with someone that clearly has decided to devote his life to MM and all that it involves (including their attitude towards females)?

2. Was there nobody that could have informed this chap what he was doing to his life by branding him self as he did? Where was all the "leaders" who are trying to change the way for their people?

As they jumped in to their late model jap car and I started up my 87 Audi that I had just spent $20 on petrol on (after a serious consideration as I would not get any money inside a week) I felt sad for them. I could see how hard their life would be...

[Molly]

I felt sad for them. I could see how hard their life would be...

Not as hard as their victims. Save your sympathy for those more deserving.

[Conquiztador]

Not as hard as their victims. Save your sympathy for those more deserving.

They got $50 of petrol. I managed $20.
My car is a 87, their is a new jap one.
Ahhh, nevermind.

[Molly]

Oh, I geddit. I thought you were being serious.

[caseye]

Gang members? there's a cure.
It's simple, it just takes the moral fortitude to hold on long enough to educate all of the kids going to school right now.
Make sure they can all actually read and write.
Make sure their parents are responsible for their whereabouts day and night.
Make sure they have a job to go to before allowing them to leave school or a place of practical work based experience.
You know what, they'd figure it out for themselves. Work, earn money, have a life , be upstanding in their community and be respected for being honest and forthright.
We'd still have the odd few exceptions, it's called white Island! drop em out there by helicopter and leave em there to fend for themselves where they can't come back and hurt innocent people again and again.
Got quite along way from Wild Hogs as a subject, sorry bout that.
Loved the movie, though a bit too over acted, pity had a fantastic cast and not a bad story line.
It was just a story aye?

[Conquiztador]

Oh, I geddit. I thought you were being serious.

Yes, I was being serious. Re the unfairness of the world. Re the value of honesty and respectability. Re what has been installed in us re right and wrong. Re at times you wonder...

[awayatc]

Wel conquiztador.....wonder no more......
How much is a clear concience worth?
What's the value of looking in the mirror for a shave without feeling shame?
Shame you couldn't see the same guy 30 years or so from now....
There are more ways then one to value somebodies "worth"....

Trust me most lowlives burn out and crash way before their time...

[Molly]

It's simple, it just takes the moral fortitude to hold on long enough to educate all of the kids going to school right now.


Mate. I've been teaching for years. Do you think we DON'T try to educate these kids? Do you think we don't try to instil decent values into them? I let nothing go by and take every opportunity to address respect for others' property, respect for the immediate and wider environment, respect for each other and for staff. But some (and I can only think of a handfull in recent years) struggle to see the big picture. For them gang culture can be very attractive and glamorous. I'm just glad that I teach at a good school. If I'm honest, I don't think I could deal with that crap day in - day out.


Yes, I was being serious. Re the unfairness of the world. Re the value of honesty and respectability. Re what has been installed in us re right and wrong. Re at times you wonder...

No arguments here.

[A_Mans_Ruin]

I'm going to start a Fork owners group, everyone that owns a fork can pay a fee and we can all get jackets and put Fork Owners Group on them, and then we can meet up amd compare forks, and sew little badges on our jackets to show how us Fork owners roll.

Nah Fork You:clap:

[caseye]

"Mate. I've been teaching for years. Do you think we DON'T try to educate these kids? Do you think we don't try to instil decent values into them? I let nothing go by and take every opportunity to address respect for others' property, respect for the immediate and wider environment, respect for each other and for staff. But some (and I can only think of a handfull in recent years) struggle to see the big picture. For them gang culture can be very attractive and glamorous. I'm just glad that I teach at a good school. If I'm honest, I don't think I could deal with that crap day in - day out."

Thanks for the honesty, that is unfortunately what actually happens to most teachers, good or bad,
My mum taught for many years and like you and many(but not enough) others she fought it all the way.
My apologies fro making it sound so easy, I know it's not, but if it were possible to hold onto them and make their damned parents responsible and take the rap for them , then it would actually work.
I did make allowance for the few,that's my own idea.Harsh perhaps, but it's time we looked after the rest of us not the criminals.
Many thanks for teaching the kids and for trying so hard, I'm sure you have great days and bad days like the rest of us out there working, but if like my mum you do it right for just one they come back and say hi and they show you what you did for them. I hope that goes along way to helping you keep going.

[Molly]

Cheers for that. Like most jobs there are good days and bad. I was a teacher's worst nightmare when I was a kid so whenever they're playing up I just think it's payback (can even laugh when I recognise myself in them).

In comparison to teaching in the UK (and it's a broad comparison) I find Kiwi kids more willing to work through a problem and they don't require as much spoon-feeding. School's just a much more positive environment here. I'd give up teaching if I had to go back to the UK.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand: Harleys are great but some of the owners are dicks. I think that's where we're up to? ;-)

[caseye]

No probs and yes the bikes are probably Ok if ya like them, but the owners well!

[scumdog]

No probs and yes the bikes are probably Ok if ya like them, but the owners well!

Where do the Harley owner who own other breeds of bike fit in??

[Molly]

Where do the Harley owner who own other breeds of bike fit in??

Dunno but I fit into that category (Guzzi too). When you find out, let me know. :-)

[caseye]

Lurking about in the background there huh scumdog, lol I was baiting me hook but didn't expect such a big fish, all jokes aside I've stopped to make sure harley guys are good to go on the side of the open road. they're Ok dudes as a rule.
As always some spoil it for the rest,all bike riders have that problem.

[scumdog]

Dunno but I fit into that category (Guzzi too). When you find out, let me know. :-)

Snap.

I fit that catagory as well.:niceone:

[Storm]

So as well as the masculinity crisis, you dont even know which group you should be in ? How do you buggers make it through the day :bleh:
















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[smoky]

Where do the Harley owner who own other breeds of bike fit in??

Bikophiles, cross-bikers or bi-bikerexual

[smoky]

Here's a bike gang I'd consider joining, depends on how fast they ride of course, they might leave me behind;

[caseye]

Na man, no engines on those bikes you'll probably be able to catch some of em up in a while!

[buellbabe]

"Mate. I've been teaching for years. Do you think we DON'T try to educate these kids? Do you think we don't try to instil decent values into them? .

I sympathise...some teachers must feel like they're wasting their time...they put so much effort into trying instil some morals and principles into kids that go home to a 'family' unit where none of those things exist...

[Molly]

I sympathise...some teachers must feel like they're wasting their time...they put so much effort into trying instil some morals and principles into kids that go home to a 'family' unit where none of those things exist...

Well, they sure do in mine. Christ, damned if you do and damned if you don't...

Yes, you do often feel like you're wasting your time when day after day kids come to school with no apparent respect for another's property, each other, or their surroundings. I'm sure their kids will be much the same. They'll be shit, inconsiderate road users, will litter their surroundings because it's somebody else's job to clean it up, will cheat the benefit system because it's all about looking after number one, and will generally make f'k all contribution to NZ.

Hope National have a plan for this because that last lot sure didn't.

[smoky]

From gang patches to Teachers ????

[buellbabe]

Yep! This thread has definately 'evolved'...its been an interesting read though. Lots of thought provoking comments...rather than the 'piss-take' and 'slagging' that usually accompanies a thread with HOG or HD in the title.:niceone::clap:

[caseye]

Must have something to do with the quality of the posters I reckon.@#$??