Transponder, where to buy?

[GIXser]

anyone know where i can buy a transponder ...:yes: ?

[cowpoos]

anyone know where i can buy a transponder ...:yes: ?
http://www.amb-it.com/

[White trash]

Transponder Shop would be my first bet.

Or, you could tell you team manager you want one, it is his fricken job to find that sort of shit after all.

You're fired for being a dumbarse and unsmooth driving.........

[GIXser]

Transponder Shop would be my first bet.

Or, you could tell you team manager you want one, it is his fricken job to find that sort of shit after all.

You're fired for being a dumbarse and unsmooth driving.........


good point you organise one" ! earn ya keep after all LG have put ya on a 160 k salary plus im sending you on a "bike tie down" course... even my little Brooke would have tied those bikes better today...as a precaution i did throw my gear bag in between.. cos i know retarded people aint that good at tying knots..

[roadracingoldfart]

good point you organise one" ! earn ya keep after all LG have put ya on a 160 k salary plus im sending you on a "bike tie down" course... even my little Brooke would have tied those bikes better today...as a precaution i did throw my gear bag in between.. cos i know retarded people aint that good at tying knots..


Take away the riders in a team and the manager is a useless bit of pork at a jewish . Give that cheeky prick the word Eddy, hes gettin cocky. Just quit as the rider and he will be out of a job. :2guns:

By the way , im ex Navy so ill learn him a few granny knots if ya want.


Paul .

[GIXser]

Take away the riders in a team and the manager is a useless bit of pork at a jewish . Give that cheeky prick the word Eddy, hes gettin cocky. Just quit as the rider and he will be out of a job. :2guns:

By the way , im ex Navy so ill learn him a few granny knots if ya want.


Paul .

thx Paul mucho appreciated, i think hes a prick but dont tell em yet.. cos i still have some uses for em...

[roadracingoldfart]

thx Paul mucho appreciated, i think hes a prick but dont tell em yet.. cos i still have some uses for em...

I just love it when i sense a cunning plan being unravelled. :yes:

[Riff Raff]

. Give that cheeky prick the word Eddy, hes gettin cocky. Just quit as the rider and he will be out of a job. :2guns:
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That cheeky prick would just replace the rider with himself. Don't do it Ed!

[driftn]

anyone know where i can buy a transponder ...:yes: ?


Wouldnt waste your money mate, no where to stick it to and no mount for it.
Oh no if your quick you could pick it up off jimmys garage floor.

As for the hooking the bikes in did you pay any attention to the way you had yours tied in when you picked us up? bloody near on its side and flopping around like a cock in a sock.

[GIXser]

Wouldnt waste your money mate, no where to stick it to and no mount for it.
Oh no if your quick you could pick it up off jimmys garage floor.

As for the hooking the bikes in did you pay any attention to the way you had yours tied in when you picked us up? bloody near on its side and flopping around like a cock in a sock.

what would you know ya little cock, you cant even tie your own shoe laces!!

[Deano]

Bloody transponder hire is nearly as expensive as the entry for the whole series.

[cowpoos]

Bloody transponder hire is nearly as expensive as the entry for the whole series.
how much is it Dean?

[Deano]

$286 for a transponder for the series.

Entry is $445.

[Jase W]

Oh dang, I didn't realise transponder hire was separate. How much are they to buy (he asks nervously)?

[cowpoos]

Oh dang, I didn't realise transponder hire was separate. How much are they to buy (he asks nervously)?
$ 545 auzzy bucks according to this site http://www.amb-it.com/motorcycle-racing-transponders-c-10_12.html

[Jase W]

Bugger. Will have to fork out for hirage until I can afford the wee bit extra to buy one. I do wonder how they can get ~$600 out of something that just pretty much farts at a receiver at a predetermined point....

[Clivoris]

It is really hard to see where the expense is in the bloody things, but the sooner you buy one, the sooner it starts paying for itself. I imagine there would be a ready market for second hand ones at 2/3 full price as well. Full Actrix Winter Series hire is $270. $33.75 x 8 days.

[cowpoos]

Bugger. Will have to fork out for hirage until I can afford the wee bit extra to buy one. I do wonder how they can get ~$600 out of something that just pretty much farts at a receiver at a predetermined point....
they are designed to handle a fucking real good smash!! hard to achieve than you may imagine with delicate electronics you'll find :)

[Clivoris]

they are designed to handle a fucking real good smash!! hard to achieve than you may imagine with delicate electronics you'll find :)

Good point..

[Jase W]

Just wrap it in concrete!

[roadracingoldfart]

That cheeky prick would just replace the rider with himself. Don't do it Ed!


OMG :msn-wink: order a spare set of fairings for that event.:rolleyes:

[Sketchy_Racer]

If you guys find some place to get them that are cheaper than the AMB site can you let me know? I'm keen on buying one as the hiring fee is stupid and it will pay for itself in a year.

[Racey Rider]

$270 hire per unit for the Winter Series.
100 odd riders,
$270 * 100 = $27000

There must be hidden expenses in there we don't know about.

Perhaps Tim, (if your listening), you could share a little bit of the costings that make $30 + GST per day a fair price for something that gets used again and again.

I understand that if we damage a hire one, we have to cough up the money to replace it, so that is not covered in the hire price.

[cowpoos]

$270 hire per unit for the Winter Series.
100 odd riders,
$270 * 100 = $27000

There must be hidden expenses in there we don't know about.

Perhaps Tim, (if your listening), you could share a little bit of the costings that make $30 + GST per day a fair price for something that gets used again and again.

I understand that if we damage a hire one, we have to cough up the money to replace it, so that is not covered in the hire price.
its how he makes a living...he is not a charity...so usually rules of running a business apply...and 3.8k per race day seems pretty fair for the service he offers and costs asociated with it. and more to the point...he does a Excellent job...infact a better than excellent job really!!

and most racers would rather pay that small [in the grand scheme of things]...than have people try to count riders per lap...and they get times.

[wharfy]

I understand that if we damage a hire one, we have to cough up the money to replace it, so that is not covered in the hire price.

That's not MY understanding - I thought that is why the cost was so high, to cover the ones that get incinerated when a bike bursts into flame,( I can't see how else you could damage them. Soild state electronics in a block of resin as far as I can see.)

[k14]

$270 hire per unit for the Winter Series.
100 odd riders,
$270 * 100 = $27000

There must be hidden expenses in there we don't know about.

Perhaps Tim, (if your listening), you could share a little bit of the costings that make $30 + GST per day a fair price for something that gets used again and again.

I understand that if we damage a hire one, we have to cough up the money to replace it, so that is not covered in the hire price.
When you invest a few hundred grand into something you have to make a return on that somehow. As cowpoos said, he isn't a charity and seeing as he's the only guy in NZ doing it he can charge what he wants. I believe 2 or 3 years ago he made the call that he isn't too interested in the transponder side of things now, he wants everyone to have their own and he just wants to show up to a meeting and run the timing setup. From what I've heard the logistics of charging, maintaining and chasing people up that forget to give them back is a massive headache for him!

That's not MY understanding - I thought that is why the cost was so high, to cover the ones that get incinerated when a bike bursts into flame,( I can't see how else you could damage them. Soild state electronics in a block of resin as far as I can see.)
Well I think you would have a very unplesant surprise if you did infact happen to stuff one. The responsibility is on the rider to ensure the transponder is returned in the same condition as it was given to them in. If not then you will find yourself footing the bill for a replacement!!

[KS34]

No problem with Tim making a living as has been said he does an amazing job and provides a very professional service for a club event, maybe he could start selling his transponders off to us.

[Buddy L]

You could buy one off me, PM me with a price your willing to buy it for $150-$200.
Mine has been used for off road use, so not sure if they are any different for road racing?
My friend is using it at the moment so will have to get it back first.

[Marknz]

I'll be wanting to buy one too. Hirage seems a bit on the steep side, but as several people have stated, the man is trying to make a living and is providing a bloody good service to us all. I'm happy to buy second hand if it can be guaranteed to be compatible with his system.

[scuzeme]

$730 Bucks NZ It will pay itself off in 2 years after that your race meets are a serious chunk cheaper might be the way to go.

[wharfy]

When you invest a few hundred grand into something you have to make a return on that somehow. As cowpoos said, he isn't a charity and seeing as he's the only guy in NZ doing it he can charge what he wants. I believe 2 or 3 years ago he made the call that he isn't too interested in the transponder side of things now, he wants everyone to have their own and he just wants to show up to a meeting and run the timing setup. From what I've heard the logistics of charging, maintaining and chasing people up that forget to give them back is a massive headache for him!

Well I think you would have a very unplesant surprise if you did infact happen to stuff one. The responsibility is on the rider to ensure the transponder is returned in the same condition as it was given to them in. If not then you will find yourself footing the bill for a replacement!!
I had better read the fine print on the contact then, um... I don't actually remember signing a contract...Nothing in the entry about being liable for damage to transponders ?

[Deano]

$730 Bucks NZ It will pay itself off in 2 years after that your race meets are a serious chunk cheaper might be the way to go.

The hard wired one is a bit cheaper ~$570.

No worries about charging it up either.

[svs]

You could buy one off me, PM me with a price your willing to buy it for $150-$200.
Mine has been used for off road use, so not sure if they are any different for road racing?
My friend is using it at the moment so will have to get it back first.

As long as it's the TranX260 it should be OK. (rated to 260km/h)

Some of the ones used for motorcross (The AMBmx orange ones) are only rated up to 120km/h and won't work for road race.

[GIXser]

You could buy one off me, PM me with a price your willing to buy it for $150-$200.
Mine has been used for off road use, so not sure if they are any different for road racing?
My friend is using it at the moment so will have to get it back first.


pm send...cheers

[Jase W]

pm send...cheers


Too late :P

[GIXser]

Too late :P

too late for what..?

[roadracingoldfart]

pm send...cheers

Save ya $$$ and get Jimmy to run next to your bike shouting as he goes ..
1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 - 2.7 ohh fugg , lets starts another hot lap , ill try harder.

[aff-man]

they are designed to handle a fucking real good smash!! hard to achieve than you may imagine with delicate electronics you'll find :)

Lies.... If someone could get me the circuit diagram of one of these puppies I could price up how much to build one and make it eddie proof (reads smash proof)

I'll be needing one to so will see what I can sort.

[Buddy L]

Sorry Guys Mines a AMBmx, so no good for your sport.
If anyone wants one of these then it could be good.

[scuzeme]

Lies.... If someone could get me the circuit diagram of one of these puppies I could price up how much to build one and make it eddie proof (reads smash proof)

I'll be needing one to so will see what I can sort.

Oh your fucking kidding, i hope you cant mate cause i just brought one bloody exchange rate is totally crap at mo.:crybaby:

[k14]

Lies.... If someone could get me the circuit diagram of one of these puppies I could price up how much to build one and make it eddie proof (reads smash proof)

I'll be needing one to so will see what I can sort.
Good luck, you will probably have to wreck one to work out the internals. If you take the cover off they are filled with goop. Secondly each transponder has a unique id which is all linked into their website etc, so I don't even know if a non amb transponder will work properly with their system??

[aff-man]

Good luck, you will probably have to wreck one to work out the internals. If you take the cover off they are filled with goop. Secondly each transponder has a unique id which is all linked into their website etc, so I don't even know if a non amb transponder will work properly with their system??

yes the "goop" is a two part resin that protects the electronics from massive bumps and prying eyes. Relatively cheap and marvelous stuff..

As for he circuitry a transponder is a transponder... You just need to know the frequency and what sort of info is being burst out and walla can make one.. just need to know the details. Circuit diagrams are really usefull but if someone has such info I might have a play around..

[GSVR]

yes the "goop" is a two part resin that protects the electronics from massive bumps and prying eyes. Relatively cheap and marvelous stuff..

As for he circuitry a transponder is a transponder... You just need to know the frequency and what sort of info is being burst out and walla can make one.. just need to know the details. Circuit diagrams are really usefull but if someone has such info I might have a play around..

If you did make a working Transponder with an ID that AMB are not already using the first time you tried to use it AMB/Mylaps could either refuse to publish the results or tell Tim Gibbes he's banned until he sorts out the illegal transponder issue. And/or take you to court for copyright infringment. Get the picture?

http://www.amb-it.com/terms-business-i-6.html


b) The customer acknowledges that the goods may include certain firmware imbedded therein. AMB hereby grants a license to customer to use the imbedded firmware in an AMB decoder, but only to the extent the decoder is used in connection with AMB hardware. AMB shall have the right to terminate the license immediately upon written notice to customer in case AMB has a reasonable belief that customer at any time has used the AMB decoder in connection with non-AMB hardware. Further, customer may not copy, compile, reverse compile, disassemble, translate, analyze, reverse engineer or attempt to reverse engineer the firmware, except as permitted by applicable law.

[aff-man]

If you did make a working Transponder with an ID that AMB are not already using the first time you tried to use it AMB/Mylaps could either refuse to publish the results or tell Tim Gibbes he's banned until he sorts out the illegal transponder issue. And/or take you to court for copyright infringment. Get the picture?

http://www.amb-it.com/terms-business-i-6.html


b) The customer acknowledges that the goods may include certain firmware imbedded therein. AMB hereby grants a license to customer to use the imbedded firmware in an AMB decoder, but only to the extent the decoder is used in connection with AMB hardware. AMB shall have the right to terminate the license immediately upon written notice to customer in case AMB has a reasonable belief that customer at any time has used the AMB decoder in connection with non-AMB hardware. Further, customer may not copy, compile, reverse compile, disassemble, translate, analyze, reverse engineer or attempt to reverse engineer the firmware, except as permitted by applicable law.

Holy shit..... No wonder they can get away with charging whatever they like. They have just basically monopolised the market and so if you want to race you have to buy a ridiculously overpriced piece of hardware. I can understand the exact replica problems and certain firmware patents etc but as I said a transponder is a transponder. So even if you wanted to use another brand you can't because it isn't allowed to be used with the race organisers hardware..

Feck me sideways something seem a little fishy there..... kinda hard going on racers starting out on a shoestring budget... better stock up on 2 minute noodles..

[cowpoos]

Holy shit..... No wonder they can get away with charging whatever they like. They have just basically monopolised the market and so if you want to race you have to buy a ridiculously overpriced piece of hardware. I can understand the exact replica problems and certain firmware patents etc but as I said a transponder is a transponder. So even if you wanted to use another brand you can't because it isn't allowed to be used with the race organisers hardware..

Feck me sideways something seem a little fishy there..... kinda hard going on racers starting out on a shoestring budget... better stock up on 2 minute noodles..
How much would it cost for you to make a simple lap timer...one that operates off a becon..measure to 100th's of a second...for test days etc..[there is a market for them...they are not freckin cheap!! go google!!]

[GSVR]

How much would it cost for you to make a simple lap timer...one that operates off a becon..measure to 100th's of a second...for test days etc..[there is a market for them...they are not freckin cheap!! go google!!]

Or a GPS tracker so you know what speed your doing at any point on the track.

[cowpoos]

Or a GPS tracker so you know what speed your doing at any point on the track.
buy a speedo

[GSVR]

buy a speedo

But a speedo doesn't tell you where you are on the track!

[cowpoos]

But a speedo doesn't tell you where you are on the track!
you don't need that info to go faster.....and you don't need a speedo.

[GSVR]

you don't need that info to go faster.....and you don't need a speedo.

Better email the F1 and MotoGP guys and tell them they are wasting their time then!

[cowpoos]

Better email the F1 and MotoGP guys and tell them they are wasting their time then!
I said you don't need one to go faster..knowing how fast you are going ain't going to teach you to go faster is it!! being able to read a speedo is not going to teach you to go faster..and besides gary...kit dash's don't have speedo's...just a big tach.

[ArcherWC]

You could buy one off me, PM me with a price your willing to buy it for $150-$200.
Mine has been used for off road use, so not sure if they are any different for road racing?
My friend is using it at the moment so will have to get it back first.

Its no good for road racing cam, only offroad, thats why I sold it to you rather than use it myself