Oil dump out of KX, where from?

[oldskool]

After riding at Waeranga I got home took bike off trailer and about 4 tablespoons of thick bright red oil dropped onto the concrete. It looked like it came off the chain near the front sprocket, so thought it might have come through the front sprocket seal. Looked on the deck of the trailer, no oil marks. Washed the bike yesterday and couldn't find where it came from. Looked at engine oil level through spyglass and it looks the same from last time I checked before Waeranga.
I dropped the bike down a hill at Waeranga, it was upside down for a few minutes. I'm thinking the oil may have come out of the engine blow hole underneath the carby. Can the engine oil make it's way out of the breather? :scratch:

[cheese]

At a guess, I'd say it was in the breather. Watch it on your garage floor over the next week and see if you get more spots.

[scott411]

it is out of the crank case breather, on the KX250F they runa long breather that runs around the inlet manifold, when it was upside down it would have run into there, and then out when sitting for a while, it will be fine, just make sure the oil level is sweet,

[oldskool]

it is out of the crank case breather, on the KX250F they runa long breather that runs around the inlet manifold, when it was upside down it would have run into there, and then out when sitting for a while, it will be fine, just make sure the oil level is sweet,
whew that's a relief! I'll sleep easier tonight :laugh:
awesome ride btw, thoroughly enjoyed it, that and matatangi are both up there in my books.

[noobi]

glad to hear its sorted
you mean mangatangi? :buggerd:

[oldskool]

glad to hear its sorted
you mean mangatangi? :buggerd:
yeah 'xcuse my ignorance, I'm from the other side of the Bombays :dodge:

[noobi]

yeah 'xcuse my ignorance, I'm from the other side of the Bombays :dodge:

were from the same side of the bombays :blink: :weird:
just go have your soy latte mate :whocares: lol

[oldskool]

were from the same side of the bombays :blink: :weird:
just go have your soy latte mate :whocares: lol

oooh you'd be borderline wouldn't you? a fence sitter where you are. go for the highest bidder. :nono:
I'm from the Norf Shor, I drink flat white, I think the hardest town name to remember here is Mairangi Bay! :laugh:

[barty5]

oooh you'd be borderline wouldn't you? a fence sitter where you are. go for the highest bidder. :nono:
I'm from the Norf Shor, I drink flat white, I think the hardest town name to remember here is Mairangi Bay! :laugh:

Hey dont dis the bays Nothing wrong with Miarangi bay from where i sit

[oldskool]

Hey dont dis the bays Nothing wrong with Miarangi bay from where i sit
:clap:thort you'd bite!
But you're not in Mairangi Bay, you live the other side of East Coast Rd. Constellation Dr sorta Sunnynook/Windsor/Unsworth area don't you?

[barty5]

:clap:thort you'd bite!
But you're not in Mairangi Bay, you live the other side of East Coast Rd. Constellation Dr sorta Sunnynook/Windsor/Unsworth area don't you?

Nah north side where we are is mairangi bay the other side of road is sunnynook which works real well on house prices so glad im where i am.

[cheese]

Yeah thats like saying I live in Windy ridge. Its Glenfield!!!

[barty5]

Yeah thats like saying I live in Windy ridge. Its Glenfield!!!

brikedale/ beachhaven come on

[soundbeltfarm]

the other day i noticed blue oil drips on the ground below back sprocket and thought wtf, then realised i had run out of the normal air filter oil and was using this other stuff which i reckon is shit.
and i rung the fuka out of the filter and installed it and it still dripped out onto the air box and out onto the swingarm.
i cant get the motrex oil i normally use. it different i think as i think it has alchol sort of thing which eveaporates and dont have to ring it out much. what do you guys use?

[theblacksmith]

Bel Ray Foam Filter Oil does the trick very well for me.

[soundbeltfarm]

yeah i never had trouble from any other filter oil i used.
used no toil, rock oil , motrex , and now this elf oil but i just cant find any love with this elf so might chuck it and use rock oil again as it was only 2 thirds price of motrex.
sorry for the thread hijack too.

[barty5]

yeah i never had trouble from any other filter oil i used.
used no toil, rock oil , motrex , and now this elf oil but i just cant find any love with this elf so might chuck it and use rock oil again as it was only 2 thirds price of motrex.
sorry for the thread hijack too.


yeh elf changed when the stopped makin it in spray on form it all went to shit hell i get it for free and wont use their air filter oil all ends up sitting at the bottom of the filter. Dont use that shit that caltex use either im sure its made from recycled chewing gum stringy like fuck hopeless to spread then all slowly runs to the bottom.
Best ive found since is motorex spray on works well spary the air box as well help trap the dust before it get to the filter.

[flyingcr250]

i use castrol sprayon filter oil, i find it quite good, only thing is it freezes the filter when you spray it on on a cold morning.

[Taz]

My KDX would never have done a thing like that....:bleh::whistle:

[vr4king]

yeah i never had trouble from any other filter oil i used.
used no toil, rock oil , motrex , and now this elf oil but i just cant find any love with this elf so might chuck it and use rock oil again as it was only 2 thirds price of motrex.
sorry for the thread hijack too.

You doing tarata???.............Another thread hijack

[soundbeltfarm]

You doing tarata???.............Another thread hijack

nah mate going to KOM but doing the okato one tomorrow.

[vr4king]

nah mate going to KOM but doing the okato one tomorrow.


I went was awsome ride good turn out too which surprised me..........I dont think I've washed so much mud of my bike and myself

[oldskool]

Okay went for another ride and yes again, another red discharge. She's bleeding bad now with smears all over the trailer. So took off chain and front sprocket. Tussock wound tight around shaft. Plenty of it wrapped and twisted so tight it was like hemp rope. Kept pulling it out and out. Once it was all out I leaned bike over and engine oil gushed freely out. Don't know if the 'rope' flogged out the seal or was hiding a faulty seal problem. Anyways, all you Tussock Busterians, it may be prudent to check what's behind your front sprocket.

[Reckless]

Okay went for another ride and yes again, another red discharge. She's bleeding bad now with smears all over the trailer. So took off chain and front sprocket. Tussock wound tight around shaft. Plenty of it wrapped and twisted so tight it was like hemp rope. Kept pulling it out and out. Once it was all out I leaned bike over and engine oil gushed freely out. Don't know if the 'rope' flogged out the seal or was hiding a faulty seal problem. Anyways, all you Tussock Busterians, it may be prudent to check what's behind your front sprocket.

At least you found it mate and it wasn't a flogged out bearing that stuffed the seal. A new seal because of a bit of tussock sounds like quite a good result compared to what it could have been. :wari:

[noobi]

Okay went for another ride and yes again, another red discharge. She's bleeding bad now with smears all over the trailer. So took off chain and front sprocket. Tussock wound tight around shaft. Plenty of it wrapped and twisted so tight it was like hemp rope. Kept pulling it out and out. Once it was all out I leaned bike over and engine oil gushed freely out. Don't know if the 'rope' flogged out the seal or was hiding a faulty seal problem. Anyways, all you Tussock Busterians, it may be prudent to check what's behind your front sprocket.

good to hear its been diagnosed now, its fair to say my bike is in need of some attention before the next ride now too :bye:

[flyingcr250]

good to hear its been diagnosed now, its fair to say my bike is in need of some attention before the next ride now too :bye:

ha ha ha "my gear levers pointing in the wrong direction" ahhhh the joys of motorsport.:rockon:

[noobi]

ha ha ha "my gear levers pointing in the wrong direction" ahhhh the joys of motorsport.:rockon:

it could be worse



it could be four stroke
:innocent:

[krad_nz]

I got #8 fencing wire around my rear sprocket on the dam buster loop. At first glance it looked just like tussock too.

[SpikedPunch]

I'm still pulling bits of tussock out of my radiator. I'm surprised there's any left in Waiouru!

[noobi]

i had some wire jump around my back wheel today, took about 5 minutes to get it off, was like an IQ test or something, i passed tho :whocares:

[oldskool]

At least you found it mate and it wasn't a flogged out bearing that stuffed the seal. A new seal because of a bit of tussock sounds like quite a good result compared to what it could have been. :wari:
now you've got me going! crikey I didn't think it might be that bad. :eek5:

[oldskool]

Okay it was the tussock that flogged out the seal. So got one from Spectrum, cost $10.75, stuffed it up putting it in...the whole collar/o-ring in first then seal over top thing didn't go as smoothly as you'd think...weird system that, then went down to Auckland Bearing Company on Barty's advise and got the same seal there for $4.50! So I got 2 (1x spare) for the price of one!
Size id/od : 27mmx37mmx7mm for you's information.

[barty5]

Okay it was the tussock that flogged out the seal. So got one from Spectrum, cost $10.75, stuffed it up putting it in...the whole collar/o-ring in first then seal over top thing didn't go as smoothly as you'd think...weird system that, then went down to Auckland Bearing Company on Barty's advise and got the same seal there for $4.50! So I got 2 (1x spare) for the price of one!
Size od/id : 27mmx37mmx7mm for you's information.

Was bout to ask you how did you get on second time round.

[oldskool]

Was bout to ask you how did you get on second time round.
Took the bike for a quick fang around Frosty's secret track on Saturday just to check all was well and it went sweet as. Thanks for your help!

[barty5]

good to hear.

[L Rider]

Hey Evan, Joan here if you hadn't worked it out. Did you take Tawny for ride at Frosty's? We went to Sandpit on Saturday. I finally got out & did a couple of trails.

[oldskool]

Hey Evan, Joan here if you hadn't worked it out. Did you take Tawny for ride at Frosty's? We went to Sandpit on Saturday. I finally got out & did a couple of trails.
Heya J, yep I figured it was you in your pic. Looks like Thunder.
Yep Tawny did quite a few laps riding around with Alex and William. William rides his KX80/(85?) well. Tawny loved it and I spent some time teaching her about different types of corners, when to brake into corners and when to accelerate out. Hey great to hear you ventured out of the learners area. I didn't go riding the Sunday, instead got the kids XR100's ready to sell. Tawny is looking forward to an upgrade into a KX60/(65)

[L Rider]

Heya J, yep I figured it was you in your pic. Looks like Thunder.
Yep Tawny did quite a few laps riding around with Alex and William. William rides his KX80/(85?) well. Tawny loved it and I spent some time teaching her about different types of corners, when to brake into corners and when to accelerate out. Hey great to hear you ventured out of the learners area. I didn't go riding the Sunday, instead got the kids XR100's ready to sell. Tawny is looking forward to an upgrade into a KX60/(65)

William does ride well aye - he also knows that track inside out which helps. Cool track to learn on. Done the convict 3 or 4 times, plus that part of it that goes from besides the juniors track (didn't do the hill there this time though) & comes out on the road nxt to the other entry to convict. Also took Brooky to the old carpark. Sand is bloody hardwork - but i'm getting better in it slowly. You selling both the XR100's?

[oldskool]

William does ride well aye - he also knows that track inside out which helps. Cool track to learn on. Done the convict 3 or 4 times, plus that part of it that goes from besides the juniors track (didn't do the hill there this time though) & comes out on the road nxt to the other entry to convict. Also took Brooky to the old carpark. Sand is bloody hardwork - but i'm getting better in it slowly. You selling both the XR100's?
Brooky musta liked the adventure to the carpark. Yeah I can't say I like soft sand as much as clay. Yes picked up our other Xr100 while at Frosty's and will put them both up on TM tonight.

[L Rider]

Brooky musta liked the adventure to the carpark. Yeah I can't say I like soft sand as much as clay. Yes picked up our other Xr100 while at Frosty's and will put them both up on TM tonight.

He LOVED it!! Lil man can fly literally over some of the bumps. literally had to push him up one part to get him going as Rachel came off in front of him & sand was too deep for him to get traction. On way home he was right up Rachel's rear whilst she was sliding all round the place - he reckons we go too slow for him.
Hope the bikes sell fast - Tawny will be racing ahead of me on her new one.

[oldskool]

He LOVED it!! Lil man can fly literally over some of the bumps. literally had to push him up one part to get him going as Rachel came off in front of him & sand was too deep for him to get traction. On way home he was right up Rachel's rear whilst she was sliding all round the place - he reckons we go too slow for him.
Hope the bikes sell fast - Tawny will be racing ahead of me on her new one.
Yeah Quads go over soft stuff easier ay.
I hope so, I think I've priced them realistically at 1992,$750. 1988,$700. Hoping to find a KX60(5) for around $1200 to $1500.

[L Rider]

Yeah Quads go over soft stuff easier ay.
I hope so, I think I've priced them realistically at 1992,$750. 1988,$700. Hoping to find a KX60(5) for around $1200 to $1500.

I'm sure a KX will come up in your price range. Her & Indy be sharing it?

[oldskool]

I'm sure a KX will come up in your price range. Her & Indy be sharing it?
Yes there will be no problem sharing it. Tawny goes out with me 2x more than when Indy comes out so understands when he comes out he gets to ride it at least as much as her on the day. They're good kids and it won't be an issue. However I'm not sure if the KX60 will be tall enough for Indy. From what I remember of Oldguys KX it was more suitable for Tawny. But he's not quite ready for a KX80 yet.

[L Rider]

Yes there will be no problem sharing it. Tawny goes out with me 2x more than when Indy comes out so understands when he comes out he gets to ride it at least as much as her on the day. They're good kids and it won't be an issue. However I'm not sure if the KX60 will be tall enough for Indy. From what I remember of Oldguys KX it was more suitable for Tawny. But he's not quite ready for a KX80 yet.

When you go out for a whole day they don't literally ride all day so i can see the sharing thing can work it was more the height i was thinking about for Indy. He's kinda in between the 2 at the mo is he? He wasn't too bad on the RM, that is slightly shorter than that CR. He could build up the confidence on the KX65 then go from there?

[oldskool]

When you go out for a whole day they don't literally ride all day so i can see the sharing thing can work it was more the height i was thinking about for Indy. He's kinda in between the 2 at the mo is he? He wasn't too bad on the RM, that is slightly shorter than that CR. He could build up the confidence on the KX65 then go from there?
A couple of weeks ago was his first time out on the convict and he took to it like a duck to water. He was sliding around berms and dodging in and out of roots with so much confidence, it was good to watch. I reckon riding a KX65 would make him more confident and quicker, being a lighter and more responsive bike than the XR100. His feet would still be able to touch the ground around tight and steep stuff if he had to. Going taller too soon would probably slow down his progression.

[jt119]

if that was the weekend we were ther it was a buzz fellowing him round didnt seem to bother him what came up just went round it over it like it was nuthing

[L Rider]

A couple of weeks ago was his first time out on the convict and he took to it like a duck to water. He was sliding around berms and dodging in and out of roots with so much confidence, it was good to watch. I reckon riding a KX65 would make him more confident and quicker, being a lighter and more responsive bike than the XR100. His feet would still be able to touch the ground around tight and steep stuff if he had to. Going taller too soon would probably slow down his progression.

sounds like he is doing really well - gaining so much confidence. That convict track is good - once i figured out on the little hills (bumps lol) to keep that power on. 1 bloody tree root got me everytime & i'd get stuck on it! heaps of pple went through it on Sat so by end of the day it was really churned up.

[oldskool]

if that was the weekend we were ther it was a buzz fellowing him round didnt seem to bother him what came up just went round it over it like it was nuthing
yeah that was the day! pity flyingcr's battery died on his helmut cam it would have been good to show Indy his footage.

[flyingcr250]

yeah that was the day! pity flyingcr's battery died on his helmut cam it would have been good to show Indy his footage.

im in the process of getting one of those cams from nzhelmetcamz.co.nz.

[oldskool]

im in the process of getting one of those cams from nzhelmetcamz.co.nz.
cool! I'm going to get one off Cheese. Later this year will also get an Accelerometer/Gyro sensor coupled to a datalogger. Sounds techy but what this does is records all my movements and writes it to a SD card in synch with the video. From this I will be able to play it back on my motion platform and simulate my ride!

[jt119]

i can poke stev in the eye for having flat batterys

[flyingcr250]

cool! I'm going to get one off Cheese. Later this year will also get an Accelerometer/Gyro sensor coupled to a datalogger. Sounds techy but what this does is records all my movements and writes it to a SD card in synch with the video. From this I will be able to play it back on my motion platform and simulate my ride!

holy moses, that does sound complicated lol:bash:

[SpikedPunch]

cool! I'm going to get one off Cheese. Later this year will also get an Accelerometer/Gyro sensor coupled to a datalogger. Sounds techy but what this does is records all my movements and writes it to a SD card in synch with the video. From this I will be able to play it back on my motion platform and simulate my ride!

Crazy! You should sell em to the pros as a training tool.

[oldskool]

Crazy! You should sell em to the pros as a training tool.
Yes! well this is my vision. Get a pro to wear it and go ride his ride, grab the video and play it back on the simulator. So then you can jump on the simulator and ride it enough to have your muscles memorise the movements of the bike to how he rode it. Kind reverse engineer his riding style.

And in noobies case he can practise wheelies and get to know how far to go to reach the balancing point (to an extent) without flipping it.

[flyingcr250]

Yes! well this is my vision. Get a pro to wear it and go ride his ride, grab the video and play it back on the simulator. So then you can jump on the simulator and ride it enough to have your muscles memorise the movements of the bike to how he rode it. Kind reverse engineer his riding style.

And in noobies case he can practise wheelies and get to know how far to go to reach the balancing point (to an extent) without flipping it.

i saw him do a wheelie front ways the other weekend.;)

[oldskool]

i saw him do a wheelie front ways the other weekend.;)
I heard he played chicken with a CR125 and came out on top!

[flyingcr250]

I heard he played chicken with a CR125 and came out on top!

ha ha ha yea was a bit of a shocker.:Oops:

did a loop with him out at port waikato, he can get long pretty well

[jt119]

after seeing what he went though that day one week later hes back on it hard bugger

[oldskool]

after seeing what he went though that day one week later hes back on it hard bugger
yeah he rides pretty well, smokes me

[FROSTY]

Yep Tawny did quite a few laps riding around with Alex and William. William rides his KX80/(85?) well.
Just for the record william has NEVER ridden that bike before
Im friggin green with envy mate --gotta get me a kx125 -like NOW

[oldskool]

Just for the record william has NEVER ridden that bike before
Im friggin green with envy mate --gotta get me a kx125 -like NOW
Well he fooled me because he rode it so comfortably, he even found some air when we rode the track in reverse! Yeah man you gotta get a kx125 like.. el-pronto!