View Full Version : Taking a 250 to the track?
monkeymsea
11th April 2009, 20:03
Hey guys,
I'm geting my licence back later this month and I'm going to take my speeding off the road..
Went to the puke trackday today to watch my step dad ruin his rear tire lol (icekiwi around these parts) and I really want to start attending these shindigs
Just a couple questions.
Is a 250 just too small to take on the track (I have a zxr250 :yes:)??
How many of you guys out there take there 250's to the track?
I would like to think that a trackday would be alot of fun but I think being on a 250 ill just be getting in the way even in the sloooow group.
As always any help will be apreciated lol
Dean
11th April 2009, 20:13
Hey guys,
I'm geting my licence back later this month and I'm going to take my speeding off the road..
Went to the puke trackday today to watch my step dad ruin his rear tire lol (icekiwi around these parts) and I really want to start attending these shindigs
Just a couple questions.
Is a 250 just too small to take on the track (I have a zxr250 :yes:)??
How many of you guys out there take there 250's to the track?
I would like to think that a trackday would be alot of fun but I think being on a 250 ill just be getting in the way even in the sloooow group.
As always any help will be apreciated lol
Cheers to you bro, the tracks the way, save your life and others:niceone:.
I have been thinking of taking my zeal on the track, i know alot more 250 riders that are keen to, maybe some 250 kbers could all go down. And all go at own pace, plus your zxr would cain my bike (even though ive got 3 hp less).
That way you wouldnt feel undermined or slow, with me and the ninjas yards back:laugh:
monkeymsea
11th April 2009, 20:16
Cheers to you bro, the tracks the way, save your life and others:niceone:.
I have been thinking of taking my zeal on the track, i know alot more 250 riders that are keen to, maybe some 250 kbers could all go down. And all go at own pace, plus your zxr would cain my bike (even though ive got 3 hp less).
That way you wouldnt feel undermined or slow, with me and the ninjas yards back:laugh:
Haha good shit!! lol I know Frosty had an idea for a novice trackday.. It sounds like a good thing to do but its more of a drving course I think.
Maybe we could maybe get club 250 on here to host a day or even if there enough of us keen to have a 250 group on a normal trackday..
Dean
11th April 2009, 20:27
Haha good shit!! lol I know Frosty had an idea for a novice trackday.. It sounds like a good thing to do but its more of a drving course I think.
Maybe we could maybe get club 250 on here to host a day or even if there enough of us keen to have a 250 group on a normal trackday..
That sounds good im definitely keen for that, club 250 would probs organize something. I want to try to get some gn250 or hyosung riders along so i wont feel bad about my riding lol but every one at own pace i guess. I might just pm a mentor or someone like that and enquire just to see if it could work out before anything official goes down.
wbks
11th April 2009, 20:27
I think Icekiwi could probably tell you what you need to know on this, I've seen him at trackdays. The "slow group" is for slow riders... If people are fast enough to go lapping everyone they move up to the next class.
How many people take their little bikes to the track? I took my zxr250 to taupo and had a great ride. Rode with a few other 250s, saw scooters (albeit hopped up 250 beasts lmao), and even passed a few 600's and other bikes (offcourse untill the straight). Point is, it isn't too small and in group 4 (slow) it is fine.
As for the group 250 thing, I think it's a little pointless? There are 250 riders that will destroy the average 600 around the track, and ones that are more likely to see a vespa up their inside on the way out of a sweeper. Making one for inexperienced, new riders would work better IMO
monkeymsea
11th April 2009, 20:31
I think Icekiwi could probably tell you what you need to know on this, I've seen him at trackdays. The "slow group" is for slow riders... If people are fast enough to go lapping everyone they move up to the next class.
How many people take their little bikes to the track? I took my zxr250 to taupo and had a great ride. Rode with a few other 250s, saw scooters (albeit hopped up 250 beasts lmao), and even passed a few 600's and other bikes (offcourse untill the straight). Point is, it isn't too small and in group 4 (slow) it is fine.
Yeah I know its at your own pace and what not but when im tooting along on my baby ninja I dont want to be passed by big bad 600s all the time..
I started this thread cos I didn't see any 250's at the track today.
wbks
11th April 2009, 20:34
Get stealing mr. stepdads zx10 and go for a trackday on that then, aye? :)
monkeymsea
11th April 2009, 20:39
Get stealing mr. stepdads zx10 and go for a trackday on that then, aye? :)
HEhe or his 6rr in the garage :whistle: haha
Nah I want to get more confident on my bike.. Cos its so awesome lol.. Puke I don't think I can touch the ground on his bike... maybe on tippy toes
wbks
11th April 2009, 20:43
Trackdays makes everyone a more confident rider, I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you do go
McJim
11th April 2009, 20:45
I went round Taupo on a VTR250 and had a ball. ZXR250 in good order should touch 180kph - on the back straight at Pukekohe you may feel the need for some sandwiches while you wait for the hairpin.
Basically go for it. If anyone cuts you up in the noobie group speak to the organisers and point the bastards out.
In my opinion Pukekohe is a tad to straight for a small capacity bike but Taupo is superb coz it has lots of corners.
Hampton Downs looks like it will be the shizzle though.
Go for it - the track is your oyster.
monkeymsea
11th April 2009, 20:50
I went round Taupo on a VTR250 and had a ball. ZXR250 in good order should touch 180kph - on the back straight at Pukekohe you may feel the need for some sandwiches while you wait for the hairpin.
Basically go for it. If anyone cuts you up in the noobie group speak to the organisers and point the bastards out.
In my opinion Pukekohe is a tad to straight for a small capacity bike but Taupo is superb coz it has lots of corners.
Hampton Downs looks like it will be the shizzle though.
Go for it - the track is your oyster.
Yeah taupo looks like quite a mean track for getting technique.. lots of corners lol.. I think my bike will hate me if i took it to puke.. shes sitting on 72000 ks haha
Laxi
11th April 2009, 20:50
taking my zzr to manfield next week for a track day should be awsome, i know i can keep up with a lot of bigger bikes on the bends its only the sraight that worries me, but I figure if I stay of the line itll be good, just get in and give it a go!
Ooky
11th April 2009, 21:49
cant wait to put my 250 on the track for some of those hampton downs track days! :scooter:
Ninja82
11th April 2009, 22:05
hey I took my Ninja 250 to the AMCC Track day on 4th April and Pukekohe and I had a fantastic time. No it's not too small, I mean it gets cained by the bigger bikes, but hey it's all about fun, learning and a way to do massive speeds without getting slapped with tickets by the coppas ;D
It was my first time out and I've totally been bitten by the track bug will be going again Mon 20th to the Redline Track day at Pukekohe :D might bump into you on the track........have fun.
discotex
11th April 2009, 22:10
I've done 5 track days down at Taupo and every time there's a great assortment of random bikes in the slow group.
MotoTT (http://www.motott.co.nz) would be the best to start with as group 4 well policed to keep it newbie and slower bike friendly.
A ZXR250 is more than fast enough. Yes you'll get passed on the straights but that happens to everyone as there are always different bikes in every group.
Just to give you an idea I ride T1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and sometimes 8 in 2nd gear on my 600.
Here's a pretty slow couple of laps from the time before last when I was focusing on lines. Have picked up the pace a little since so am moving up to G2 :)
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monkeymsea
11th April 2009, 22:22
It was my first time out and I've totally been bitten by the track bug will be going again Mon 20th to the Redline Track day at Pukekohe :D might bump into you on the track........have fun.
Not sure if that was the right choice of words lol
I don't get my licecne back till the 28th so I think it will be better if I familiarize myself with the bike before i go hurtling down the track!
And discotex NIce ride lol.. I think I want to hit taupo first.. Puke is very straight and i think My bike will be working almost too hard haha
scracha
11th April 2009, 22:57
Just get out there and have fun. There will be a group that suits you just fine. Puke's a waste of time on anything less than a 600 IMHO. Once you get fast, a lot of the bigger bikes will struggle to get past you (just ask billy or Vtec).
Tony.OK
12th April 2009, 09:17
Any sized bike is better on a track than the road............and as for worrying about faster/bigger bikes, let them worry about it.
The biggest thing is not to worry about who or what is behind you, most trackdays have a policy of no passing on the inside, so if you just worry about yourself and hold your line rather than letting other bikes through you'll be fine:yes:
scroter
12th April 2009, 09:34
get out there man, you would be surprised how easy it is to keep a reasonable pace with everyone, if your getting smoked down the straights dont let it get to you, just concentrate on what your bike is good at. what you lose on the straights on a 250 you should get some back on the brakes at the other end, anyway youll learn more on a 250 than a big bike i reckon so just go hard and have fun. only rule you should never forget is dont change your line to let someone past, if there that much faster than you they will go past anyway. one last thing, one of the best feelings on the track is kicking the butt's of bikes that should just pick you up and spit you out, on a 250 you got a shot at that.
monkeymsea
12th April 2009, 14:07
Alright I made up my mind!!
I'm going to find some HTFU pills somewhere and hit up to first trackday at Taupo when I get my licence back..
O and Icekiwi if your reading YOU can take pictures of ME haha
Cheers for your feed back..
zzzbang
12th April 2009, 14:39
I started this thread cos I didn't see any 250's at the track today.
Actually.. there was an aprillia rs250 there :yes:
del-solider
12th April 2009, 14:50
DOOOO IT!!!!! You love man once youve done your first youll be hooked :yes:.
I Take my 250 to trackdays, dont worry about it being to small youll still have heaps of fun belive me, im already booked in for my 4th trackday on the 250 at MotoTT at the end of this month.
Just go into the slow/novice group your first few times and everything will be all good especially when you start taking a few of the thous and 600s :woohoo:
DOOOO IT!!!!
monkeymsea
12th April 2009, 14:59
Actually.. there was an aprillia rs250 there :yes:
Haha yeah those thing will keep up with 600 even on the straight lol
quickbuck
12th April 2009, 15:15
Alright I made up my mind!!
I'm going to find some HTFU pills somewhere and hit up to first trackday at Taupo when I get my licence back..
O and Icekiwi if your reading YOU can take pictures of ME haha
Cheers for your feed back..
Good on you!
The 250 will be fine! If you can ride that to the limit on Taupo then you are doing extremely well. As said, it is much better than caning the nuts off it on the road.
Back in November I took a bunch of guys (and girls) to Taupo for a training day. Goodness knows how many laps we did on the 2.2k track, but it was a lot! The improvements seen throughout the day from the "learners" was very gratifying.
Then fast forward through Christmas to Manfeild on January 10th, and they were all coming and saying the Slow group was too slow!
Yes, this from people who had only been on bikes for 6 months!
They were making up lots of ground on the corners only to be overtaken down the straight by a big bike... Only for the over taker to get in the way under brakes at the end of the straight.....
Yes, all sounds very scary and dramatic, but at the end of the day if you are in control all these things can be dealt with very competantly.
You will get more out of the track day that you can ever imagine.
Remember you don't know what you don't know.
Ask questions, get as much advise you can from those that know what they are doing.
I'm sure they will be only too happy to help.
Stay cool, and have fun.
CaMo
12th April 2009, 15:30
I own a 250 and would be really keen on hitting taupo at some stage. Never been on a track
monkeymsea - PM when you do decide to head down, I live not far from you so could make the mission together :)
Mikkel
12th April 2009, 19:07
The ZXR250A is quite a lot of fun on the track. Just remember that it's a high-strung engine, so make sure you have got your oil changed recently.
Other than that, have fun!
sharky
12th April 2009, 21:08
Get out there mate and do it. You probably wont get a lot out of doing one at Puke cos you'll just be flat out all the time.
FROSTY
13th April 2009, 10:07
Mid pack for F3 was 1.13 at pukie a couple of years back.. V tec was mid pack on a 250 -nuff said??
Id suggest that on a decent zxr250 the only concern Id have at a place like taupo would be the RIDER not the bike
Rob Taylor
13th April 2009, 11:13
Have a mate who rides an Aprillia Factory on the road.He races a 89 Suzuki gsxr250rr on the track days.Reckons he has more fun on the 250 than ever has on the road.So just go for it.The 250 will be heaps of fun and will really show up the big bikes through the corners....:scooter:
DarkLord
18th April 2009, 02:34
When I was at the most recent MotoTT track day in Taupo, there was a guy on a Hyosung in the slowbies group along with a guy on a Ninja 250. They both did fine, if I could have afforded it I'd have been out there with them on my Hyoslug.
Good on 'em, I say. Best they start learning how to really give the 250 hell on the track, as opposed to the road.
CookMySock
18th April 2009, 07:59
Be careful with that engine with that many km's on it.. especially if its your daily rider and you cant afford to fix it. Just don't redline it repeatedly and linger it at high revs with the engine unloaded. Change your oil the week before - do about 100km on the oil and then put it on the track. Use the same brand and type of oil.
Sounds like fun. ;)
Steve
monkeymsea
20th April 2009, 18:34
Be careful with that engine with that many km's on it.. especially if its your daily rider and you cant afford to fix it. Just don't redline it repeatedly and linger it at high revs with the engine unloaded. Change your oil the week before - do about 100km on the oil and then put it on the track. Use the same brand and type of oil.
Sounds like fun. ;)
Steve
Have a spare engine sitting in the garage :P. But I agree Just chucked in some new oil (motul 5100) Doing the loop as soon as i get my license should be some fun getting use to riding again, its been 5 months lol and then off to the track with me!!
icekiwi
24th April 2009, 11:06
Just go an do it.......
You know there's room on the trailer so no excuses...
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