Dynamo

[Rupe]

Has anyone else noticed that all the grease has turned to shit since using dynamo?

[CHOPPA]

As in you no longer have grease in all your bushes etc?

[Sammikins]

I knew there'd be some sort of side effect....

[Rupe]

As in you no longer have grease in all your bushes etc?

everywhere that once had nice grease, now has watery black shit.

[flyingcr250]

everywhere that once had nice grease, now has watery black shit.

yea i notice quite a bit of it coming out of the steering head, might be time for a pull down i think.:eek5:

[dafydd roberts]

Has anyone else noticed that all the grease has turned to shit since using dynamo?

Yes we did extensive comparison testing prior to the release of pro clean and found that the dynamo although did a good job was also acting as a kind of degreaser, although I’m sure there will be plenty of people who will disagree with me but this is what we found.

P.S This is not a plug for pro-clean use what ever you want.

[Rupe]

dynamo although did a good job was also acting as a kind of degreaser, .


Thats what I've found. Looks like it might have saved a bit of cleaning, but now I'll have to regrease everything, whos idea was it:angry2::angry2::angry2::bash::bash:

[dafydd roberts]

Thats what I've found. Looks like it might have saved a bit of cleaning, but now I'll have to regrease everything, whos idea was it:angry2::angry2::angry2::bash::bash:

I think it was the general consensus to use it because it works and it’s cheap,

One of things we find when going to shops is that we have to tell dealers that pro clean will not remove chain gunk and to use the pro clean degreaser,

Pro clean was designed not to remove oil and grease, to stop the problem you have had.

Dynamo is designed to be a degreaser of sorts.

[B0000M]

brilliant..... more work for me to do...

thanks for the dynamo cheese!

[theblacksmith]

Dynamo works really well for greasy overalls.
Not good for swing arms,wheel bearings or steering head bearings or chains.
Maybe this is why its sold in the laundry detergent area of supermarkets and the fact that washing machine bowls are made of stainless not aluminum maybe.(Very corrosive)

[Taz]

Use dynamo. Strip and regrease often and your bearings will thank you for.

[clmintie]

I use Dynamo on all our bikes, have done for about 3 months. Had a look at the bearings I greased 6 months ago and all is well. I have noticed no ill effects and wonder if it says more about the quality of the grease being used. I use a blue marine grease we have at work for use on industrial washing machines...... I'll find out what it is......

[Reckless]

I use Dynamo on all our bikes, have done for about 3 months. Had a look at the bearings I greased 6 months ago and all is well. I have noticed no ill effects and wonder if it says more about the quality of the grease being used. I use a blue marine grease we have at work for use on industrial washing machines...... I'll find out what it is......


OK So second theory here: Did you guys stop using the water blaster like I did?? Haven't used it since I started with Dynamo. The whole reason I liked Dynamo was because it was good enough that I didn't have to use the blaster, which pushes water past the seals into the linkages, steering head and wheel bearings etc no matter what cleaner you use!
So if you guys are still using the water blasters maybe its carrying the detergent past the seals and into where the grease is????

Just a thought!

My bikes are all OK after using Dynamo since Christmas?? BUT I'll have a decent look over this week!

EDIT: The detergent shouldn't be able to get to where the grease is in most places anywhere on a bike??

[tommorth]

dynamo seems to refuse to remove grease or oil from my bike have had bit of spooge from the pipe join and some oil from a leakin clutch cover and both have needed petrol or degreaser to remove haven't checked my wheel bearings etc yet but spose I should soon it's not like its hard though

[Rupe]

OK So second theory here: Did you guys stop using the water blaster like I did?? Haven't used it since I started with Dynamo. The whole reason I liked Dynamo was because it was good enough that I didn't have to use the blaster, which pushes water past the seals into the linkages, steering head and wheel bearings etc no matter what cleaner you use!
So if you guys are still using the water blasters maybe its carrying the detergent past the seals and into where the grease is????

Just a thought!

My bikes are all OK after using Dynamo since Christmas?? BUT I'll have a decent look over this week!

EDIT: The detergent shouldn't be able to get to where the grease is in most places anywhere on a bike??

never used a water blaster to clean any of my bikes, and always used the same grease. never had a problem till I started to use dynamo.

[4stroke]

i grease my swingarm and linkages every 6 months and axels evey three, maintance is cheap aye, specially when ya gota do bearings alot, my old boss always said oil and filters are cheap compared to rebuilding an engine often.
and i use machinery degreaser and water blaster or high pressure hose at the cow shed, never had a problem yet.

[warewolf]

Use dynamo. Strip and regrease often and your bearings will thank you for.What he said.

I've been using it for a few months myself. Have been pretty impressed with the way it works - fast and easy - but haven't said anything yet because that's only been on dusty bikes which are pretty easy to clean. Had an opportunity the other week to clean a muddy bike that had dried. Dynamo did the trick, it seemed to soak through the dry mud and lift it off.

Washing isn't the only reason to inspect bearings. I'd rather wash the bike swiftly and spend the time greasing bearings, rather than spend forever trying to get the bloody bike clean and ignoring the bearings.

[Reckless]

never used a water blaster to clean any of my bikes, and always used the same grease. never had a problem till I started to use dynamo.

Thats interesting! The dynamo still shouldn't be able to get at the grease past the seals on most areas?? Especially if your only using hose pressure. Doesn't make sense mate sorry you got me there? Others (incl me) don't seem to be having the same problem. I better have a closer look at my bikes. Steering head bearings you say, I'll get back to you!

[Rupe]

What he said.

I've been using it for a few months myself. Have been pretty impressed with the way it works - fast and easy - but haven't said anything yet because that's only been on dusty bikes which are pretty easy to clean. Had an opportunity the other week to clean a muddy bike that had dried. Dynamo did the trick, it seemed to soak through the dry mud and lift it off.

Washing isn't the only reason to inspect bearings. I'd rather wash the bike swiftly and spend the time greasing bearings, rather than spend forever trying to get the bloody bike clean and ignoring the bearings.


Yeah good points, but I'm pretty good with my maintenace and always try to make sure all is good. Just think that if you were having to re-grease bits after a few rides when normally you don't, that can't be good.

Basically every time I take some thing apart to do maintenace (like remove a wheel to get to something else)I think, fuck I only just greased that bit whats all the black watery shit. Wasn't getting that problem before, and dynamo is the only different thing in the mix.

I won't be using it anymore, you can if you want, but then thats upto you.

[kezzafish]

out of... stands to reason tho i guess... thanks rupe. I'm gonna keet using it and i'm gonna check and re grease steering head this week. I figure just be careful around those areas, re pack wheels everytime they come off cos it's easy

[clmintie]

The grease at work is "Morey's super premium high temp waterproof grease"

Just stripped a 75kg washing machine to replace seals, it was last done 5 years ago and while the grease has discoloured a little. it still seems OK.....

[Danger]

I can honestly say I've never ever had to replace the linkage bearings in my KTM. Although I am concerned due to the reported corrosiveness of dynamo that one day my aluminum swing arm may dissolve from under me, because surely it must be corroding from the inside out? For some reason the exterior is fine, and its not just because its european, as I've not had this problem in over 25 years of using the evil blue soap.

I suggest that you look at the quality of your seals and bearings or grease if your grease is turning to crap, or your maintenance schedule. Most quality bikes have sealed bearings, but there is little available grease to lube these parts, so it needs to be a quality grease (Belray waterproof) and it needs to be cleaned out and re greased often due to the harsh environment we subject them too.

[barty5]

givin that you guys that are usin water proff grease and not havin the same problems id say that is where the problem is. My steering head bearing went the same way as rupe has said black watery shit.

[Rupe]

I suggest that you look at the quality of your seals and bearings or grease if your grease is turning to crap, or your maintenance schedule.


That doesn't make sense, are you telling me that if you brought a new kwaka you would replace every seal, and bearing???? I've heard factory grease is not the best, but all the seals and bearings, are you sure, that would cost a small fortune????

My maintenace on the other hand is good, I spend time looking after my bikes so I don't have to spend money (well as much).

Anyway use what you want to clean your bikes, I will.

[CRF119]

I use truck clean i have been for the past 4 years no problems you can pick it up from super cheap its a green colour will grab product name later on when im home.

[pete.ktm]

since my mate bailed on me for the ride @ masterton and it's a lousy day in wellington what else is there to do but some mythbustering type stuff.

put some dirt on a server rack door (??) and then put several cleaning products on.

attached are some b4 and after shots. from this very unscientific test i think i'll use ct18 superwash (from supercheap), with dynamo as a backup.

notes on test:

put mud, bel-ray waterproof grease and delo 400 10w40 on test surface. left mud to dry. put cleaning product on. hose off.

all products mixed and left on for the recommended strengths and time.

ct18: mixed 50-1, left on for 20 minutes.
dynamo: mixed 20-1, left on for 10 minutes.
tw20: mixed 30-1, left on for 5 minutes.
muc-off: sprayed on straight, left on for 2 minutes.
simple green automotive: mixed 2-1, left on for 30 seconds.

none of the products seemed to do much to the grease and oil.

[Reckless]

Hey good effort Pete. As unscientific as you say they are its good to see the results. Would have been interesting to see a un waterproof grease strip on there as well. But it appears most of the products actually washed the mud off not to bad!
Had my axles out over the last week and the dynamo doesn't seem to have effected the Duckhams un waterproof grease I used on the axles. Unfortunately the grease gun tube of molebleium grease I use on all the bearings is cut down so far I can't read if its waterproof or not?
But great you did that and posted it up for us! Cheers mate!