Harleys. Love them or hate them.

[naphazoline]

As the title implies,everyone has their opinions on them.
Not my cup of tea,but each to their own.

But i didn't start this thread to argue about weather they're the ducks nuts,or if they're a pet hate.

But SOME, (NOT ALL), of the guys riding harleys round in groups in the Naki on the weekend,(Easter bike show in new plymouth),are sure out to give them a bad ass name.

Two abreast,(not staggered),4-5 feet between bikes,hogging the road,(now i know where they get the name "HOG" from),and forcing passing manouevres, after sitting in the blind spot on the rear pillars of cars, that they were tailgating.

Several people had mentioned this to me over the weekend,and said it was a really intimidating feeling,and that they were forced to pull over,almost off the road as they passed,because they were riding WAY too close for their comfort.

I know you're probably thinking that i'm singling out Harleys,but aside from the one or two other brands amongst a sizable couple of bunches,that's all there was.

No...They weren't patched up,either.So before you think that it's a gang thing,i can tell you it wasn't.

I've got mates,who ride in groups of predominantly Harleys,but they don't ride like this.

There's been far too many bike accidents lately,and i would prefer that there wasn't anymore.

So what the fucks up with the "tough guy" shit?? :rolleyes:

[vifferman]

I experienced the same thing on the Southern Motorway a few weeks ago. A bunch of guys (mostly on Harleys) riding like dicks, no regard for road rules, courtesy or commonsense, seemingly just out to prove that they were big, tough, and brainless.

[yungatart]

I was also in the Naki for the weekend.
The only dickhead behaviour I witnessed was a single rider on a BMW armchair, who followed me for ages, then on a blind left hander pulled out and passed me and the three cars in front of me.
This was in the Awakino Gorge in light rain.

[naphazoline]

I was also in the Naki for the weekend.
The only dickhead behaviour I witnessed was a single rider on a BMW armchair, who followed me for ages, then on a blind left hander pulled out and passed me and the three cars in front of me.
This was in the Awakino Gorge in light rain.

I know harleys aren't the only ones,and i've seen sportsbikes,or whatever ride stoopidly,but i'm mainly refering to a specific couple of groups that were seen by myself and others.

I'm not exactly an angel all the time,:sweatdrop,but i'm talking blatent stupidity.

[pritch]

Some Harley groups ride in a tight bunch - real tight. There are people on KB who have ridden like this and understand the motivation, and the potential problems.

Some caution is advised when contemplating overtaking a group riding like that. :whistle:

They may object...

[Duke girl]

Harley riders: You either Love them or Hate them and I myself arn't that keen on them but each to their own.
When I hear the word Harley or see 1 for that matter I straight away think of Gang Biker/Bikers as most gangs are made up of riders riding and owning Harleys, with the occassional Harley owner riding 1 because thats a motorcycle he has wanted to own ever since he was a young lad cos his Father or Uncle use to ride 1.
A majority of the time when I see them riding in big groups along the Highway they seem to spread themselves out in long convoys instead of riding in smaller groups and closer together which to me makes it very hard for anyone travelling behind them to over take them. Then maybe thats why they do it, cos they dont like being over taken.

[Dooly]

When I think or read about Harleys, I always start thinking about waving and stuff.........:wacko::lol:

[fergie]

well it has been a week since we had a harley bashing thread:hug:

[rosie631]

well it has been a week since we had a harley bashing thread:hug:

LOL. Do your worst. We can take it.

[YellowDog]

Well it's not the bikes we are talking about; it is the image and camaraderie that goes with the HD name.

Other brands have tried to mimic this successful marketing method with varying levels of success. The Suzuki Boulevard thing that Colemans organise seems to be somewhat similar. It is a good way of keeping customer loyalty and encouraging owners to get others to join.

The HD thing is global and you will often meet folk from many parts of the world.

[naphazoline]

It aint harley bashing,if you read the post properly.

That would mean i'd be rubbishing a lot of my mates.I'm referring to 2 specific groups.Neither of which i know any of.

Should i be talking slower, so that you can understand??:whistle:

[Molly]

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Harley riders: You either Love them or Hate them ...

You do? Who made you the spokesperson? I'm generally indifferent to them and I actually own one.


When you hear the word Harley or see 1 for that matter you straight away think of Gang Biker/Bikers ...

You do? What an intelligent, sophisticated and succinct analysis of bike culture.



A [sic] majority of the time when you see them riding in big groups along the Highway they seem to spread themselves out in long convoys instead of riding in smaller groups and closer together which to me makes it very hard for anyone travelling behind them to over take them.

Boo hoo...

[P38]

Love em.

Dislike the attitude of most who ride them though.

[Big Dave]

Told you they were handy.

[Elysium]

Hate em, fuckers wont wave :laugh:

[rosie631]

Hate em, fuckers wont wave :laugh:

I always wave :innocent:

[Elysium]

I always wave :innocent:

I think I've only passed about 3 or so female Harley riders in my riding life so far :shit:

[mdnzz]

Maybe instead of mention Harley's and focus on the group itself.

Maybe they ride like that all the time regardless of whatever they have ridden.

I cannot comprehend how somebody else felt 'insecure' because a big bad group of Harley riders came up behind and an made them move out of the way???

FFS they were in cars, 3-4 times the weight, less chance of being knocked off the road and they felt 'intimidated'??

They must either lead sheltered lives or need to HTFU and just drive their own vehicles and worry about whats in front of them.

Some people seem to think that they themselves are freakin sinless and perfect and above critcism.

Don't pull over, don't slow down, like dory says, just keep driving.............:wari:

[naphazoline]

....I cannot comprehend how somebody else felt 'insecure' because a big bad group of Harley riders came up behind and an made them move out of the way???
FFS they were in cars, 3-4 times the weight, less chance of being knocked off the road and they felt 'intimidated'??
They must either lead sheltered lives or need to HTFU and just drive their own vehicles and worry about whats in front of them.:

Yeah... "just worrying about what's in front of them" . +1 :laugh:

Nah... Just that some people don't act like they own the road,whilst others obviously don't give a fuck.

You either move,or you create an accident.20 bikes to 1 car.No one wants to be responsible for that,no matter who's in the wrong.

Doesn't take rocket science to work it out.

[P38]

Hate em, fuckers wont wave :laugh:

They often wave to me. :yes: :niceone:

Must piss them off severely once the realise the C50T is a Suzuki and not another Harley :laugh:

[Headbanger]

Its only because we are better then everyone else.

Deal with it.

[Virago]

It aint harley bashing,if you read the post properly...

Did you actually read your own thread title...?



...That would mean i'd be rubbishing a lot of my mates.I'm referring to 2 specific groups.Neither of which i know any of...

So why criticise the bike itself...?


...Should i be talking slower, so that you can understand??:whistle:

Perhaps you should type slower, so you can understand yourself...:rolleyes:

[naphazoline]

Did you actually read your own thread title...?




So why criticise the bike itself...?



Perhaps you should type slower, so you can understand yourself...:rolleyes:

1) States everyone has an opinion.Nothing strange there

2)not criticising any one brand.(two particular groups,that happened to be riding predominantly one brand )

3)ONE MORE TIME FOR ALL ,THIS AINT ABOUT HATING HARLEYS.YOU MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE THEM.IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND,WITHOUT JUMPING TO FUCKING CONCLUSIONS?

Apparently not.

[peasea]

Hate em, fuckers wont wave :laugh:

We do, fuckers on sports bikes don't. Tossers.:Pokey:

[ducatilover]

I must say, meh. Not my cup of tea or my slice of brie. I know a few great dudes with hardlys. Shame they can't get a wriggle on:dodge: Some people see them as a tough image, they are just an old hat cruiser, no penile enlargement and nothing fancy. Simple. those who ride them like them.

and don't wave:lol:

[peasea]

I think I've only passed about 3 or so female Harley riders in my riding life so far :shit:

It's because you're only five years old. (Or you act like it anyway.......):baby:

[peasea]

I must say, meh. Not my cup of tea or my slice of brie. I know a few great dudes with hardlys. Shame they can't get a wriggle on:dodge: Some people see them as a tough image, they are just an old hat cruiser, no penile enlargement and nothing fancy. Simple. those who ride them like them.

and don't wave:lol:

Yes we fuckin' do........:girlfight:

[ducatilover]

Yes we fuckin' do........:girlfight:

:girlfight: I wanted a scrap.

Not many wave at me, mind you it must be hard looking at how sexy I am on my rice and sushi monster and thinking of waving:cool:

[AD345]

I must say, meh. Not my cup of tea or my slice of brie. I know a few great dudes with hardlys. Shame they can't get a wriggle on:dodge: Some people see them as a tough image, they are just an old hat cruiser, no penile enlargement and nothing fancy. Simple. those who ride them like them.

and don't wave:lol:


Yes we fuckin' do........:girlfight:


Jeez


Right - Victorys don't wave either then

Starting tomorrow

[Molly]

Doesn't matter if I'm on my Guzzi or Harley, I don't wave.

I'm worried it might invalidate my warranty. :rolleyes:

[peasea]

As the title implies,everyone has their opinions on them.
Not my cup of tea,but each to their own.

But i didn't start this thread to argue about weather they're the ducks nuts,or if they're a pet hate.

But SOME, (NOT ALL), of the guys riding harleys round in groups in the Naki on the weekend,(Easter bike show in new plymouth),are sure out to give them a bad ass name.

Two abreast,(not staggered),4-5 feet between bikes,hogging the road,(now i know where they get the name "HOG" from),and forcing passing manouevres, after sitting in the blind spot on the rear pillars of cars, that they were tailgating.

Several people had mentioned this to me over the weekend,and said it was a really intimidating feeling,and that they were forced to pull over,almost off the road as they passed,because they were riding WAY too close for their comfort.

I know you're probably thinking that i'm singling out Harleys,but aside from the one or two other brands amongst a sizable couple of bunches,that's all there was.

No...They weren't patched up,either.So before you think that it's a gang thing,i can tell you it wasn't.

I've got mates,who ride in groups of predominantly Harleys,but they don't ride like this.

There's been far too many bike accidents lately,and i would prefer that there wasn't anymore.

So what the fucks up with the "tough guy" shit?? :rolleyes:

I hate jappas, bikes and cars, but I drive a jap car as a commuter coz it was cheap to buy, it's reliable and cheap-ish to run. Plus, if someone pinches it, I don't give a fuck.

If we want to tour on four wheels we take the 5.7l V8 for comfort and torque.

On two wheels we tour on HD's because of the comfort and the torque.

We have no aspirations to be Rossi's when it comes to motorcycle riding and laugh heartily when wannabees drop a knee at every corner. Wankers, one and all. I've been in the saddle for donkey's years and the most stupid things I've seen have been done by sportsbike riders and they seem to occur with monotonous regularity. That's not to say HD riders don't so silly things, they do, but the ratio is against the SB riders in my experience, especially when I'm riding rather than driving. It's bad enough in the car but it seems that most fuckin' tosspots on SB's seem to think that HD riders need to be shoved into the kerb at every opportunity.

I keep a close eye on my mirrors and keep hard left when another bike comes up behind me, just in case another prize wanker wants to take me on the left to prove his riding prowess.

People who ride like that are nothing but cunts.

My apologies to the careful SB riders, no offence intended but there are some who are giving you a bad name. (I admit, it goes both ways.) It's about choice, like most aspects of life in a free country.

[peasea]

Doesn't matter if I'm on my Guzzi or Harley, I don't wave.

I'm worried it might invalidate my warranty. :rolleyes:

Did you sign a 'waiver'?

[Blatman]

This pic is an oldie, but a goodie:

[peasea]

This pic is an oldie, but a goodie:

A goodie....because?

[Molly]

I too wave the sports bikes past. Did this for three SB riders climbing out of the Rakaia Gorge last weekend. They took off past me and my mates and past a coach up ahead, passing completely blind on a left hand bend.

How the f'k did they know they'd get away with it? Do they not have people at home they're hoping to see again?

[awayatc]

Love em.

Dislike the attitude of most who ride them though.


You've got no idea how much that means to me....

[Baldy]

i think they dont wave because if they let go of the hand grip the bike will fall to pieces, my thoughts ,baldy

[peasea]

I too wave the sports bikes past. Did this for three SB riders climbing out of the Rakaia Gorge last weekend. They took off past me and my mates and past a coach up ahead, passing completely blind on a left hand bend.

How the f'k did they know they'd get away with it? Do they not have people at home they're hoping to see again?

My thoughts exactly. I think having kids gives you a reason to live.

[Molly]

i think they dont wave because if they let go of the hand grip the bike will fall to pieces
Aaaa... f'k off and buy a real bike ;-)


I think having kids gives you a reason to live.
I've a ten week old daughter to think about. I asked the coach driver who near wiped me out a few weeks ago if he would've paid for her eduction etc. if he'd have killed me. Blind c**t.

[fire eyes]

this really has no relevence but ..

harleys rock .. love the sound .. admire the sight ... if other people are on them.

would not purchase one for myself.

have recently been with a group of harley riding guys ... awesome bunch of folks .. can't vouch for the arrogance.

[AllanB]

Bah.

I ride a Honda - a naked one and enjoy it. Just as well as it will be a long haul until I have the dollars for a replacement :weep:

Driving back from Wanaka to Christchurch today, in the car, with the family on very empty roads, my mind wondered to bikes (as it often does). It occurred to me around the Southern roads that this would be ideal Harley (or 'cruiser') territory. Good quality roads, nice open corners with just enough tight stuff to keep it interesting - long straights with beautiful scenery.

Superb cruising roads - 110 or there abouts and enjoying the ride not the race. :2thumbsup

Just a thought.

[mdnzz]

Yeah... "just worrying about what's in front of them" . +1 :laugh:

Nah... Just that some people don't act like they own the road,whilst others obviously don't give a fuck.

You either move,or you create an accident.20 bikes to 1 car.No one wants to be responsible for that,no matter who's in the wrong.

Doesn't take rocket science to work it out.

I think maybe my point didn't come across right for you, Im not advocating dangerous or stupid driving or not caring about whats behind you, but they are behind you and are responsible for themselves and their actions...surely??

Yes I am a considerate driver wether I'm in the truck or our car, but if I see a tosser on any style bike ( or even a car for that matter) tryin to test Darwins Laws then I don't bother and why should I?

It will not be I who causes an accident and it is not I who needs to learn to be considerate to other road users.

If they are given the room to act like tossers then thats all they are going to promote themselves and any other respectable rider as such.

[mdnzz]

I too wave the sports bikes past. Did this for three SB riders climbing out of the Rakaia Gorge last weekend. They took off past me and my mates and past a coach up ahead, passing completely blind on a left hand bend.

How the f'k did they know they'd get away with it? Do they not have people at home they're hoping to see again?

Was this Sunday?

I was coming back through there after cruising upto the Methven Rod show and saw a few SB's typicult none would wave to us Harley owners:dodge:

[Molly]

Yep. Sunday. Coming back from Methven. Couldn't name all the bikes (they looked much the same) but one was an older GSXR without a fairing. There was a flash, blue coach / RV type thing up ahead that they passed on sheer luck.

[P38]

You've got no idea how much that means to me....

Your welcome! :apint:

[scumdog]

Bah.

I ride a Honda - a naked one and enjoy it. Just as well as it will be a long haul until I have the dollars for a replacement :weep:

Driving back from Wanaka to Christchurch today, in the car, with the family on very empty roads, my mind wondered to bikes (as it often does). It occurred to me around the Southern roads that this would be ideal Harley (or 'cruiser') territory. Good quality roads, nice open corners with just enough tight stuff to keep it interesting - long straights with beautiful scenery.

Superb cruising roads - 110 or there abouts and enjoying the ride not the race. :2thumbsup

Just a thought.

Your thought is right on the button!!:2thumbsup

[naphazoline]

........ They took off past me and my mates and past a coach up ahead, passing completely blind on a left hand bend.

How the f'k did they know they'd get away with it? Do they not have people at home they're hoping to see again?

That's exactly what i'm talking about.Regardless of what brand/style bike,some people just seem to have a deathwish.

Also totally agree with Peasea about the kids thing,combined with getting older and not so stupid.

[ducatilover]

A goodie....because?

The white lines on the road a clear and not worn down I think:whistle:

[Elysium]

We do, fuckers on sports bikes don't. Tossers.:Pokey:
Correction, Ducati sport bike riders don't wave...dam snobs. ;)

[ducatilover]

Correction, Ducati sport bike riders don't wave...dam snobs. ;)

they are to busy basking in their clattering desmo noise. Or they are concentrating on how to afford the next service:crazy:

[Patrick]

.... Some people see them as a tough image, they are just an old hat cruiser, no penile enlargement and nothing fancy. Simple. those who ride them like them.

and don't wave:lol:


Yes we fuckin' do........:girlfight:

They mean, "with all fingers extended..."


Doesn't matter if I'm on my Guzzi or Harley, I don't wave.

No stunt riding for you, then?


This pic is an oldie, but a goodie:

No it isn't... he only hit the front one and missed all the others......


Yep. Sunday. Coming back from Methven. Couldn't name all the bikes (they looked much the same) but one was an older GSXR without a fairing. There was a flash, blue coach / RV type thing up ahead that they passed on sheer luck.

And if they had been ticketed for it, the "cop was an arsehole" thread on here would have been created....?

From what I saw and heard, the riders around town for this bike show etc were well behaved and courteous. No problems mentioned from any quarter.

[Elysium]

they are to busy basking in their clattering desmo noise. Or they are concentrating on how to afford the next service:crazy:

Only need to be told buy a guy who owns a Ducat about the cost to maintain one to scare me away from them:eek5:

[ducatilover]

Only need to be told buy a guy who owns a Ducat about the cost to maintain one to scare me away from them:eek5:

I have a mate who loves his duke. Yet he hates his duke...;) Similar to me and my little puss rocket. I think the duke thing is similar to the harley thing. Mainly it comes down to appeal and noise.

[naphazoline]

Only need to be told buy a guy who owns a Ducat about the cost to maintain one to scare me away from them:eek5:

I'd absolutely love a Duke.Actually,there's about 4-5 models i like,but i too have been turned off them by some horrific "maintainance bill" stories.

What's the upkeep on the Brittish/American bikes like?

I'd be particularly interested in the modern Triumph costs.

[mdnzz]

I'd absolutely love a Duke.Actually,there's about 4-5 models i like,but i too have been turned off them by some horrific "maintainance bill" stories.

What's the upkeep on the Brittish/American bikes like?

I'd be particularly interested in the modern Triumph costs.

I was the same but the cost of maintenance and parts put me right off the Duke's.

Um British or Yank made......upkeep continuous...never ending....bloody nightmare....parts unavailable or from some obscure outta the way unknown hick town where ya brother's sister happens to be ya aunts daughter to your 6th cousin:whistle:

[mdnzz]

And if they had been ticketed for it, the "cop was an arsehole" thread on here would have been created....?

From what I saw and heard, the riders around town for this bike show etc were well behaved and courteous. No problems mentioned from any quarter.

From what I saw while there mostly well behaved guys and gals out having a good day, but yes there will always be a few that like to test Darwin's theory

[Boulder]

So what the fucks up with the "tough guy" shit?? :rolleyes:

We will never know for sure. My guess is that Harleys, weather you em them or not, are generally looked at by the general public as BAD ASS bikes, or THE bike to have, or the bike that is LOUD and COOL. No doubt about it, Harleys have a reputation and a big one. The also cost more than many bikes. All this adds up to feeling special when you own and ride a HD. When in a group with those mean exhausts roaring you must feel powerful. Riding together close makes it stronger. Thats how I see it.

[Molly]

Harleys have a reputation and a big one. The also cost more than many bikes. All this adds up to feeling special when you own and ride a HD. When in a group with those mean exhausts roaring you must feel powerful. Riding together close makes it stronger. Thats how I see it.

That might be the case for some, in fact I'm sure it is. I just like Harleys and have for years. I like my Guzzi too. Shit, I just like bikes. That's why I'm always skint...

On the parts question, I've found H-D prices to be a lot less than for Italian bikes I've owned. Haven't needed much in the past eight years but, for example, an entire starter clutch assembly inc. jackshaft cost me only $140. Not bad (though it could also be sourced through Toyota...). The aftermarket always provides a range of other options too, not to mention that many parts are interchangable across different models.

I looked at a Ducati 999 last year but it needed new clocks / console that would've cost over two grand. Still, if you've a passion for a bike then you'll justify the cost regardless of the brand.

[naphazoline]

.....On the parts question, I've found H-D prices to be a lot less than for Italian bikes I've owned. Haven't needed much in the past eight years but, for example, an entire starter clutch assembly inc. jackshaft cost me only $140. Not bad (though it could also be sourced through Toyota...). The aftermarket always provides a range of other options too, not to mention that many parts are interchangable across different models....

That's fakin cheap.:2thumbsup
I know when i brought parts for my Chev,they were quite often cheaper then parts for some jap cars.But then that was quite a few years ago now,and i suspect that things might have got a fair bit dearer now.

[popelli]

I was the same but the cost of maintenance and parts put me right off the Duke's.

Um British or Yank made......upkeep continuous...never ending....bloody nightmare....parts unavailable or from some obscure outta the way unknown hick town where ya brother's sister happens to be ya aunts daughter to your 6th cousin:whistle:


have you ever owned any of these or are you speaking from years of observing other well educated opinions

I own a ducati maintenance is simple and parts are cheaper than jap bikes, buy a haynes manual and do the maintenance yourself

As for yank stuff I own several harleys parts are readily and easily available and a lot cheaper than jap parts

upkeep continuous - my 23 year old 250,000km evo is 100% reliable and better than any jap or german or italian bike that I have ever owned

[mctshirt]

IMHO by definition anything that has two wheels with an internal combustion engine for motive power and held together with nuts and bolts is interesting.

[Molly]

I own a ducati maintenance is simple and parts are cheaper than jap bikes, buy a haynes manual and do the maintenance yourself

As for yank stuff I own several harleys parts are readily and easily available and a lot cheaper than jap parts ... my 23 year old 250,000km evo is 100% reliable and better than any jap or german or italian bike that I have ever owned

Absolutely! Loved my Evo Springer and it's satisfying to be able to maintian your own bike rather than pay the dealer $60ph. Who'd buy a VVT VFR with eight hours labour just to do the valve shims???.


IMHO by definition anything that has two wheels with an internal combustion engine for motive power and held together with nuts and bolts is interesting.

CAWT!

[mdnzz]

have you ever owned any of these or are you speaking from years of observing other well educated opinions



A simple observation from my profile would show you that I do own a Harley also a Yammy, I have also owned other bikes as well and have mates that have owned Dukes, Guzzis, BMW's KTM's Suzuki etc etc.
I have grown up around British bikes and have seen many sitting long periods due to unavailable parts.
yes there are plenty of OEM stock for Harley's but try getting original stock for older pre evo models and then you might see how some parts are hard to get.

But I also guess you missed the PT that was intended in my post the :whistle: should have been a little giveaway:doh:

[popelli]

yes there are plenty of OEM stock for Harley's but try getting original stock for older pre evo models and then you might see how some parts are hard to get.




I own a genuine 77 XLCR and a 52 pan and an 82 shovel as well as an evo

getting parts is not a problem

as for original why repeat the mistakes the factory made, S&S make far better parts

[mdnzz]

I own a genuine 77 XLCR and a 52 pan and an 82 shovel as well as an evo

getting parts is not a problem

as for original why repeat the mistakes the factory made, S&S make far better parts

Again as I stated some parts (original)are hard to get.

Why original, because I prefer original on my Harley but for stuff like generator bits then Austin 7 or Accel parts are the only option, I have enough aftermarket stuff already on my Yammy I don't want two frankie's in the garage.

[munterk6]

weren't harleys made to keep @#%$ off all the other brands?
or were they in recent years turned into a global marketing exercise designed to relieve a hell of a lot of bikers of their cash? Oh its one or the other!! :clap:
lighten up people...its my attempt at humour...

[mdnzz]

weren't harleys made to keep @#%$ off all the other brands?
or were they in recent years turned into a global marketing exercise designed to relieve a hell of a lot of bikers of their cash? Oh its one or the other!! :clap:
lighten up people...its my attempt at humour...

Now now you know that with SB's its all just quick zip whizz bang and ya there:dodge:.....but harley owner's well we just go on thumpin strong all day and night long....:buggerd::banana::clap:




P/T






maybe:rolleyes:

[popelli]

Why original, because I prefer original on my Harley but for stuff like generator bits then Austin 7 or Accel parts are the only option, I have enough aftermarket stuff already on my Yammy I don't want two frankie's in the garage.

horses for courses

comparing oem parts availability on a 25 year old (plus) machine with a newer jap bikes is like comparing oranges and apples

however if you compare the parts availability for a 30 year old harley with a 30 year jap bike and the harley will will hands down every time

[Molly]

Yeah, but it's the same parts... ;-)

Thought I'd say it before somebody else did.

[Madmax]

A mate of mine had a xr-1000 engine in an xlcr? frame
had heaps of work done to the engine and he spent
lots of time sorting out the handling
fastest Harley and best handling Ive ever ridden

:mellow:

[mdnzz]

horses for courses

comparing oem parts availability on a 25 year old (plus) machine with a newer jap bikes is like comparing oranges and apples

however if you compare the parts availability for a 30 year old harley with a 30 year jap bike and the harley will will hands down every time

I agree while both of the bikes there at present are not quite 30 years old getting original parts for the Harley has been a much easier exercise than the XS.

However as the OEM parts for some late model sports bike work well for a 25 year old plus jappa then I guess those oranges might just taste like apples:cool:

[Big Dave]

fastest Harley and best handling Ive ever ridden


Street Rod.

Excellent standard motorcycle.
Not their market, didn't sell and was dropped. :(

[naphazoline]

......, didn't sell and was dropped. :(


The amount of them i've seen lately,i would have thought that they were on a winning thing.

[Molly]

I don't think the V-Rod has been the hit the Factory hoped it would. I was offered a better trade-in off a new one than off the Dyna I went with. Dealer said they had more margin in the V-Rod but maybe it was also the case that they take longer to shift.

I did test ride an '06 Night Rod a few months ago. Didn't like the lack of ground clearance. Maybe that's part of the reason why the Street Rod is the one to go with.

[rosie631]

I don't think the V-Rod has been the hit the Factory hoped it would. I was offered a better trade-in off a new one than off the Dyna I went with. Dealer said they had more margin in the V-Rod but maybe it was also the case that they take longer to shift.

I did test ride an '06 Night Rod a few months ago. Didn't like the lack of ground clearance. Maybe that's part of the reason why the Street Rod is the one to go with.

Apparently, they're not doing the Crossbones this year either and they only bought it out last year. Rolling thunder have only sold one. Seem to be struggling to find something new that people like. Maybe should just stick with the tried and true. I don't know. Opinions please??

[laRIKin]

FWIW I ridden a few HD's now and I liked the V Rod (a bit more ground clearance would be nice) could not see the point of the street Rod tho.
But the styling is still a bit out there for me.
As far as the head light and instrument cluster go.

[Molly]

Apparently, they're not doing the Crossbones this year either and they only bought it out last year. Rolling thunder have only sold one. Seem to be struggling to find something new that people like. Maybe should just stick with the tried and true. I don't know. Opinions please??

There's almost too much choice at the moment. The Fat Bob has a waiting list and at $27,000 on the road it's a good five or six grand less than some of the Softails. The telescopic forks on the Softail range are overdue for a revamp. They look skinny next to the Dyna range. Come to think of it, you can get a standard Road King for a little over $27,000 new and that too has had a major overhaul for '09. Bloody bargain!

[Big Dave]

Street Rod is different to a V-rod though. Sports bike handling and clearances from the 'Street'.

Dig the V-rod too, but it is a 'scritcher'.

BD and the bad posture

[laRIKin]

Street Rod is different to a V-rod though. Sports bike handling and clearances from the 'Street'.

I have only ridden the V Rod and was going to ride the Street Rod the next day.
But it got sold while I was test riding the V Rod. (Bugger)

I could not have imagine it handling heaps better, sure the riding position would be better and there has been a up grades in the suspension etc.
Really do wish I got a ride on it now to compare the two.

To me it was trying to turn a Cruiser into a Sports bike and that is why I could not understand them building the Street Rod.

[Big Dave]

To me it was trying to turn a Cruiser into a Sports bike and that is why I could not understand them building the Street Rod.

It didn't ride like it. I mean, after all, it had USD forks.

(And brembo brakes and good ground clearance).

Eventually air cooled Eng-gines are going to become emissions non-viable.

I know Buell says they are meeting everything with the Air cooled Thunderstorm at the moment.

He gave me that raised eyebrow thing when I asked "what about the next 'Euro' restrictions?"

They have released one new water cooled model since.

[jrandom]

BD and the bad posture

'Big Dave and the Bad Posture' would be a pretty good name for a rock band.

[Big Dave]

They never name the band after the Bass player. :(

[jrandom]

They never name the band after the Bass player. :(

<img src="http://www.conservapedia.com/images/6/68/Roger_Waters_Amused_to_Death.jpg"/>

[Big Dave]

Suzi Quatro. :headbang:

[AD345]

Apparently, they're not doing the Crossbones this year either and they only bought it out last year. Rolling thunder have only sold one. Seem to be struggling to find something new that people like. Maybe should just stick with the tried and true. I don't know. Opinions please??

Can't say that I'm too surprised. The more I see of the Crossbones the less I like it.

I know the "old school" HD guys in the US preferred it over the Rocker but (IMO) the Rocker is a much better looking bike

[saltydog]

Sorry, I just hate them. Rode one once, hated it. Would have been better if I was carrying
a polo stick.

[Molly]

Sorry, I just hate them. Rode one once, hated it.

Horses for courses. I rode an R6 once and hated that. Doesn't mean to me that all Yamahas are shit though (though I can't think of a Yamaha road bike I'd want to open my garage to).

Don't you find inline fours boring as shit to ride though? A Triumph triple, Ducati L-twin, Harley or Guzzi V-twin. Much more interesting and involving. Well, I think so.

[saltydog]

Horses for courses. Don't you find inline fours boring as shit to ride though? A Triumph triple, Ducati L-twin, Harley or Guzzi V-twin. Much more interesting and involving. Well, I think so.

I hear you but na. Rode a Guzzi V11......nice but a tank. Rode a 916 Ducati...yeah nice if you like lots of maintance and expensive parts.....the Triumph...inline3?
Horses for courses for sure ;)

[Molly]

Fair enough. Don't expect me to wave though... ;)

[ducatilover]

you wave? :eek5:

[Molly]

you wave? :eek5:

Only when on the Guzzi. On the Harley I'm too 'righteous'...

[ducatilover]

Only when on the Guzzi. On the Harley I'm too 'righteous'...

:yes: Fair enough......I think. I wouldn't know, I'm just one of the guys passing:scooter:

[naphazoline]

........... A Triumph triple, Ducati L-twin, Harley or Guzzi V-twin. Much more interesting and involving. Well, I think so.

Can't really say that i don't like one particular engine configuration,but i will concede,that as an inline 4 rider,they are at the lower end of the scale in the "sound good" factor.(bar the 2009 R1.my favourite sound of all.)

It's the 675 daytona that really catches my eye.Or even the street triple.

Hats off to triumph for catering for so many different styles of bike.And doing it as good as anyone else.

And this leads me to why HD's are not overly exciting for me.

I think that they do a marvelous job catering for the cruiser crowd,that love their american muscle.

And by all means,should keep on doing so.

But what would be so wrong with letting their R&D department produce some real sports bikes,naked/street fighters,hell even motorx/dirtbikes???.....E.T.C.

The cruiser crowd could still keep buying their much loved styles,but they might pick up a lot more fans through a bit of diversity.
Not everyone is in to the laid back riding scene.

Doesn't mean to say that they would have sold out,or anything so dramatic.Makes sense to me.

Just a thought.

[Big Dave]

But what would be so wrong with letting their R&D department produce some real sports bikes,naked/street fighters,hell even motorx/dirtbikes???.....E.T.C.


http://www.buell.com

[Omega1]

Yeah your onto it Big Dave,

Buells Mate, take a look

[naphazoline]

I think you're missing my point.

I suppose you could call it a naked/streetfighter,but it aint no sportsbike in my books.

When have you seen a Buell racing,and beating the big four manufacturers on lets say the WSB scene?

Never seen them in motox against the big 4.

I'd like to see them,competing/beating some of the current top knobs,in a variety of categories.

Plus,buell is Mostly V twins.

I'm talking about making triples,IL4s,parallel twins, more singles....blah blah blah.....

.....Diversity.....

[Big Dave]

I think you're missing my point.
When have you seen a Buell racing,

Pretty much every meeting I go to there will be one or two in thunderclass.
1125R is winning races at Daytona too.

You also need bigger books.
1125CR is a great sportsbike.
So are some of the XBs for road use.

[naphazoline]

And this leads me to why HD's are not overly exciting for me.
.........

I didn't state buell,that be you.

But the 1125 models,(as i understand it.) are no HD parts at all.

Oh...BTW,i'm not saying buells don't race,i'm saying they aren't beating competition in the world scene.

..They might be world beaters in the U.S.A. LOL.

[Molly]

I think HD are well aware that their customer base is getting older and in the long term that's not good news. However, they did buy MV Augusta last year and, as has been said, Buell does cater for the sports-minded rider. As for their own range, I guess they'd be cautious about doing anything too radical with 'the recipie'.

I went for a quick run with a mate yesterday (he on his Guzzi and me on my HD Fat Bob - new one with 96" motor). OK, it's not a sports bike but it handles bloody well for such a heavy bike and it's got gobs and gobs of torque / midrange. I'm sure if more bikers gave the new Harleys a shot they'd actually be pleasantly surprised.

[naphazoline]

I think HD are well aware that their customer base is getting older and in the long term that's not good news. However, they did buy MV Augusta last year ........

Man....That's good news.That's a excellent step towards branching out a bit further.Saves on extra R&D,considering that MV Augusta are already a very reputable brand.

I do understand that anyone with a loyal following such as HD,would not want to do anthing too radical,but done in gradual steps,might see their customer base snowball radically.:2thumbsup

[peasea]

....and the new touring range has had some mods done to it to further improve ride quality and handling. The changes have been met with a positive response from the riding press and there'll always be folk who want to tour/cruise more than pull wheelies and stoppies all day.

[scumdog]

I do understand that anyone with a loyal following such as HD,would not want to do anthing too radical,but done in gradual steps,might see their customer base snowball radically.:2thumbsup

That's just how I went from Honda to Harley.:niceone:

[naphazoline]

I talked to a mate today,and he was telling me how he rode a 08 heritage (i think it was) recently,and couldn't say enough good things about it.

This is a guy who has owned a heap of jap bikes and still loves them,but says it was that impressive,that his next bike is going to be a harley.

He said that the comfort,and torque were a big factor,but mentioned that it seem to handle surprisingly well.

They certainly seem to be gaining momentum.

[Big Dave]

They certainly seem to be gaining momentum.

They have been in business since 1903.

[Madmax]

The amount of them i've seen lately,i would have thought that they were on a winning thing.
This was a 1980s Xr-1000 engine in a 1970s XLCR frame
XR-750 dirt track derived engine bored to 1000 (standard)
then worked to the max
The XLCR frame was redone from scratch the forkes/shocks
were changed! looked like a JAP engined featherbed.
No relation to the new street rod
Would be the only HD id buy

:yes:

[gatch]

I was impressed at manfield the other weekend, a dude on a purple harley that made ALOT of noise and moved surprisingly fast, a quick geez up close revealed a 130? cube motor pumping out 150 odd hp at the wheel ! I told the owner (for the first time ever) that was the coolest harley iv ever seen, as he had forsaken shiny bits for functional bits, nice..

[Tone165]

I don't like them...they are proud of their lack of sophistication.

But mostly its the tossers that (can't) ride them, and their snobby attitude.

Not all but many are just wannabe poseurs, no clue what it means to be a motorcyclist!

[Madmax]

I don't like them...they are proud of their lack of sophistication.

But mostly its the tossers that (can't) ride them, and their snobby attitude.

Not all but many are just wannabe poseurs, no clue what it means to be a motorcyclist!
This was a 1980s Xr-1000 engine in a 1970s XLCR frame
XR-750 dirt track derived engine bored to 1000 (standard)
then worked to the max
The XLCR frame was redone from scratch the forks/shocks
were changed! looked like a JAP engined featherbed.
No relation to the new street rod
Would be the only HD id buy!!!!!
Shit i ride a big sports bike/s
this bike was flat out fun and better than the new HDs
so that theory does not work
I gave this thing sutch a hiding and never manged to break it
(a part from losing an inleat pod)
what ever

:apint:

[Big Dave]

no clue what it means to be a motorcyclist!

Please enlighten us?

[Mikkel]

Depends upon the situation really. Some Harleys are nice...

But I particularly don't like Harleys with loud exhausts starting up 30-180 min after I've gone to bed in my tent. It makes it bloody difficult to sleep and get rid of those bloody hangovers...

[naphazoline]

This was a 1980s Xr-1000 engine in a 1970s XLCR frame
XR-750 dirt track derived engine bored to 1000 (standard)
then worked to the max
The XLCR frame was redone from scratch the forks/shocks
were changed! looked like a JAP engined featherbed.
No relation to the new street rod
Would be the only HD id buy!!!!!
Shit i ride a big sports bike/s
this bike was flat out fun and better than the new HDs
so that theory does not work
I gave this thing sutch a hiding and never manged to break it
(a part from losing an inleat pod)
what ever

:apint:

I quite like the look of the latest XR 1200.
Although it would be good to be able to tuck away those exhaust pipes a bit more,as they would be limiting right hand cornering.

[Molly]

I don't like them...they are proud of their lack of sophistication.

But mostly its the tossers that (can't) ride them, and their snobby attitude.

Not all but many are just wannabe poseurs, no clue what it means to be a motorcyclist!

It might be 'barn door' engineering (and by that I mean solid, simple, reliable as a f'kin' anvil) but that's what I want. I don't want a variable valve timing Honda for example.

There are some who seem to use the bike as a statement of their 'status' and I've also accused some of being more interested in 'the look' than the bike itself (what it means as opposed to what it is) but that could be said of many expensive bikes. At the other end, there are the 'righteous dudes' who won't let on because they perceive those of us with new Harleys as the aforementioned wankers.

Though you don't ride an old 'Hog' you seem to fit into that category. Bullshit really. You need to take people as you find them. It's the only way to challenge your prejudices. But fuck it. I couldn't give a shit if you think my owning a Harley makes me a prick. I'd still stop and help you out if you were stuck on the side of the road.

[awayatc]

I own a Harley
I own a prick
And I am proud of it...

Did I misread something again...?

[alley cat]

Back in the day when harleys were ridden by bikers they were cool. Now they are more often than not ridden by mr and mrs coffee club with a million sausage sizzle 1995 badges, they arnt. They can go buy the t-shirt and the chaps and ill go ride my triumph.:2thumbsup.
Wouldnt mind a nightrod/night train/deuce in the shed tho.shhhhhh.

[rosie631]

But fuck it. I couldn't give a shit if you think my owning a Harley makes me a prick.

I don't have a prick but I ride a harley. Does that mean I'm still a prick??:whistle:

[Big Dave]

I own a Harley
I own a prick
And I am proud of it...

Did I misread something again...?

All in order.

[Big Dave]

ridden by mr and mrs coffee club with a million sausage sizzle 1995 badges,

And the problem with them enjoying doing this is?

[Ixion]

I really like the engines on Harleys. Good simple reliable stuff , that can be repaired with a pickaxe and a can opener.

But I can't be having with the chassis design or the handling.

Having said which I saw a newish something at Puhoi a week or so back called I think an XR1200 Harley ? Looked very nice indeed, a Harley with a proper chassis design. Maybe a bit short in the wheelbase is all, same fault as the Buells.

[sinfull]

Sorry if it's been said but lazy is as lazy does !
The mothers day races i was in the other week, had a guy win one of the harley races on a big block that ran an s'n's motor ! That thing was a beast ! The only bike that had a chance against him was a tricked up buell (who ran off the track trying to catch him and didn't make up the lost ground) I was truely impressed with the bike ! Not to mention the guys riding !

[naphazoline]

.......You need to take people as you find them. It's the only way to challenge your prejudices. But fuck it. I couldn't give a shit if you think my owning a Harley makes me a prick. I'd still stop and help you out if you were stuck on the side of the road.

+1 man.

Good attitude.
i would (and have) offer help to anyone on any brand.:cool:

[James Deuce]

I quite like the look of the latest XR 1200.
Although it would be good to be able to tuck away those exhaust pipes a bit more,as they would be limiting right hand cornering.

Job done. Good old Supertrapp.

<img src=http://www.supertrapp.com/Upload/News/XR%201200.jpg>

[Lissa]

Oh blah. Who cares what someone rides. I have seen plenty of dick heads, snobs and deadbeats on all sorts of bikes. I have to say Harleys are quite comfortable to pillion on as well, and I do like the sound.

[sinfull]

and I do like the sound.
Go on admit it, it's the vibration aint it ?

[alley cat]

And the problem with them enjoying doing this is?

Nothing at all, and good on them. But bein so common and mainstream now i wouldnt want to own another one. Sometimes its nice not to run with the flock.

[Big Dave]

Yes - good on them.
HOG isn't my thing either - works for them and I wish them all the best for having beautiful machines that they enjoy.


If we're talking stereotypes (not meaning you ms cat) I think a Dentist or Accountant who has a nice Hog is the kinda guy I want to employ.

I used to have bias against machines and makes. Till I started riding all of them. Then I realised it was dopey. There is no general rule.

Folks at the Boulevard Rally are remarkably similar to the folks at the Hog Rally and at the RAT rally or the Cold Kiwi.

They just have different tastes.

[sinfull]

Yes - good on them.
HOG isn't my thing either - works for them and I wish them all the best for having beautiful machines that they enjoy.


If we're talking stereotypes (not meaning you ms cat) I think a Dentist or Accountant who has a nice Hog is the kinda guy I want to employ.

I used to have bias against machines and makes. Till I started riding all of them. Then I realised it was dopey. There is no general rule.

Folks at the Boulevard Rally are remarkably similar to the folks at the Hog Rally and at the RAT rally or the Cold Kiwi.

They just have different tastes.
Excellent post BD !

To each his own is the way it is !
I have a so called mate who flames me for riding with Jappas, or even thinking of buying jap (race bike even)
He's stuck with his biker attitude (it's not like he's a patch member, or even riding with any anymore) and to be honest it's his problem not mine !
But then i find he is boring to ride with, because he'd rather ride through say, the manawatu gorge than taking the pahiatua track lol
I'd give anything to have a harley in the garage beside the triple (or a garage), then i'd also give anything to have a ZX10 in there as well !
Not so sure about a Boulevard though, but if i was given one ! Well, like i'd say no ?

[peasea]

Oh blah. Who cares what someone rides. I have seen plenty of dick heads, snobs and deadbeats on all sorts of bikes. I have to say Harleys are quite comfortable to pillion on as well, and I do like the sound.

Even Sonny Barger wrote that he quietly preferred some Honda or other to his Road King but to quote him directly...."Everyone loves that fuckin' rumble".

Being a fan of American cars for more years than I care to remember it was only natural to progress to a crotch Cadillac.

[pritch]

I like my VFR as it is now. Then again I should, I put the various fruit salad there.

In about a year or so though the mileage will be such that it'll be time to decide whether to sell it or perhaps keep it a lot longer.

So at this stage one starts looking around at what's available. Blue Wing it seems insist on importing only half the Honda range so that basically rules a new Honda out.

I've never owned a twin so that idea has appeal. The front runner is a new Bonnie but the XR1200 is growing on me. At only 65 I'm too young to own a Harley but (God willing) next year I'll be 66.:whistle:

[MadDuck]

it's the vibration aint it ?

Yep! Works for me :cool:

[Big Dave]

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[naphazoline]

Job done. Good old Supertrapp.



The more i see it,the more i like it.

Also, i have to agree with B.D,in that i used to have a bias in cars,(i was a staunch holden man.) but now,i couldn't give a hoot what anyone wants.

If it works for you,and you like it,cool.

It would be a fucking boring world if we all had the same taste.

[AD345]

Even Sonny Barger wrote that he quietly preferred some Honda or other to his Road King but to quote him directly...."Everyone loves that fuckin' rumble".

Being a fan of American cars for more years than I care to remember it was only natural to progress to a crotch Cadillac.


Sonny now has a Victory Vision (http://community.cruisercustomizing.com/_Sold-to-Sonny-Barger-do-not-touch-/BLOG/60199/22960.html)

[peasea]

Sonny now has a Victory Vision (http://community.cruisercustomizing.com/_Sold-to-Sonny-Barger-do-not-touch-/BLOG/60199/22960.html)

Ta heaps for the update.
(He still gets an American V-twin rumble doesn't he?)

[98tls]

Ta heaps for the update.
(He still gets an American V-twin rumble doesn't he?) American and V-twin but far from a rumble.:dodge:

[naphazoline]

American and V-twin but far from a rumble.:dodge:

What do you mean no rumble?

Stock exhausts?:confused:

[rosie631]

Sonny now has a Victory Vision (http://community.cruisercustomizing.com/_Sold-to-Sonny-Barger-do-not-touch-/BLOG/60199/22960.html)

OMG. That's just wrong.

[MadDuck]

Stock exhausts?:confused:

Stock what? It is just not cool to keep stock exhausts.

[Molly]

Big Dave. Got to love that movie! I've a copy on DVD and my poor, long-suffering wife has had to sit through it so many times...

[AD345]

Ta heaps for the update.
(He still gets an American V-twin rumble doesn't he?)

They have their moments

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[AD345]

OMG. That's just wrong.


LOL


There there - it's always a shock when our idols show their feet of clay huh??

[naphazoline]

Stock what? It is just not cool to keep stock exhausts.

No exhausts is quite cool for an ear bleed.:lol:

[98tls]

What do you mean no rumble?

Stock exhausts?:confused: Xactly what i said "no rumble".Not knocking Harleys,far from it been around to long to be bothered with that shite.They have a vastly distinctive sound than most V-twins stock pipes or not.Hard to be honest here without offending owners of said bikes but the reality is they have a sound more akin to an old and i mean old tractor with a fucked exhaust:Playnice:not being offensive thats just the reality and its far from a rumble.Best mate rides a Dyna/wide/FGWXAKU etc (again not taking the piss just cant remember the endles letters associated with said bike),its an 07 and all things considered a nice bike,when he bought it it had oem pipes,kind of quiet which is to be expected,fitted an aftermarket system and now it sounds like afore mentioned tractor,he loves the sound and thats all that matters eh but its far removed from a rumble.

[98tls]

They have their moments

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[naphazoline]

Xactly what i said "no rumble".Not knocking Harleys,far from it been around to long to be bothered with that shite.They have a vastly distinctive sound than most V-twins stock pipes or not.Hard to be honest here without offending owners of said bikes but the reality is they have a sound more akin to an old and i mean old tractor with a fucked exhaust:Playnice:not being offensive thats just the reality and its far from a rumble.Best mate rides a Dyna/wide/FGWXAKU etc (again not taking the piss just cant remember the endles letters associated with said bike),its an 07 and all things considered a nice bike,when he bought it it had oem pipes,kind of quiet which is to be expected,fitted an aftermarket system and now it sounds like afore mentioned tractor,he loves the sound and thats all that matters eh but its far removed from a rumble.

Heard a new V rod go past the other day,but only just.
It had the stock pipes on it,and was not very audible.

I'm guessing the guy is trying to keep his warranty valid.

[MadDuck]

No exhausts is quite cool for an ear bleed.:lol:

WHAT...WHAT I cant hear you :lol:


I'm guessing the guy is trying to keep his warranty valid.

They have warranties? For what? :whistle:

[naphazoline]

....They have warranties? For what? :whistle:

Fucked if i know.

I buy second hand.

[scumdog]

LOL


There there - it's always a shock when our idols show their feet of clay huh??

And do what they effingwell like.

[Headbanger]

I used to have bias against machines and makes. Till I started riding all of them. Then I realised it was dopey. There is no general rule.


Just out of curiosity, If you could only have one bike, and it was the only bike you were allowed to ride for the next 10 years,what would it be?

[Big Dave]

Just out of curiosity, If you could only have one bike, and it was the only bike you were allowed to ride for the next 10 years,what would it be?


My Buell. I think it is the most versatile big bike. Doesn't do 'anything' outstandingly well. But does 'everything' reasonably well.

Sports, tours, stunts, fun round town, excellent 2 up, does dirt roads and some ADV - and it's very tall.

Cheap to service and although parts speed of delivery to NZ is a bit of a pain they will be available for that 10 years.

Triumph Tiger if I could remove the bodywork and screen. I'd own a Speed Triple already if I fitted on one.

I could live with this Rocket III quite easily too. Really enjoying it.

BMW Megamoto if I only rode solo.

Road King with a suspension job.

Concours 1400 would be a contender too.

[rosie631]

My Buell. I think it is the most versatile big bike. Doesn't do 'anything' outstandingly well. But does 'everything' reasonably well.

Sports, tours, stunts, dirt roads and some ADV - and it's very tall.

Cheap to service and although parts speed of delivery to NZ is a bit of a pain they will be available for that 10 years.

Triumph Tiger if I could remove the bodywork and screen. I'd own a Speed Triple already if I fitted on one.

I could live with this Rocket III quite easily too. Really enjoying it.

BMW Megamoto if I only rode solo.

Road King with a suspension job.

Concours 1400 would be a contender too.

Lol. He said one.:)

[James Deuce]

Lol. He said one.:)
Trust me, once you start sampling the wares it becomes very hard to settle on just one.

[rosie631]

Trust me, once you start sampling the wares it becomes very hard to settle on just one.

Yeah, I know. Was just being a smart arse:whistle:

[naphazoline]

My Buell.........

What buell?

1125?

[James Deuce]

Ulysses

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[Big Dave]

We say 'XB12X' in this part of the world. :-P

[Big Dave]

Wife stabs husband over Harley: Police

The Journal Gazette

A man reported that his wife, enraged about his new Harley-Davidson motorcycle, attacked him in his northeast-side home Tuesday, slashing and stabbing his arm.


Police were called to the stabbing in the 7300 block of Chivington Drive, near East State Boulevard and Maplecrest Road, about 8:45 p.m.


The victim told officers his wife came to his house and attacked him with a steak knife. She was angry about his recent purchase of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle and accused him of trying to pick up “Harley women,” the report said.


He was treated at a hospital for cuts to his arm. His wife, Lisa Barnett, 45, was arrested Thursday on preliminary charges of battery and domestic battery.

[rosie631]

She was angry about his recent purchase of a Harley-Davidson motorcycle and accused him of trying to pick up “Harley women,” the report said.


LMAO. 'Harley women' WTF does that mean? Women that ride Harleys??

[Headbanger]

LMAO. 'Harley women' WTF does that mean? Women that ride Harleys??

Women that want to ride on the back of a Harley.

[s8306]

Bah.

I ride a Honda - a naked one and enjoy it. Just as well as it will be a long haul until I have the dollars for a replacement :weep:

Driving back from Wanaka to Christchurch today, in the car, with the family on very empty roads, my mind wondered to bikes (as it often does). It occurred to me around the Southern roads that this would be ideal Harley (or 'cruiser') territory. Good quality roads, nice open corners with just enough tight stuff to keep it interesting - long straights with beautiful scenery.

Superb cruising roads - 110 or there abouts and enjoying the ride not the race. :2thumbsup

Just a thought.

Yep.Thats why we come down every year.

[peasea]

Yep.Thats why we come down every year.

We got sick of heading south every year............

So we moved south instead; it's cut the commuting time dramatically.

[ducatilover]

We got sick of heading south every year............

So we moved south instead; it's cut the commuting time dramatically.

That would tend to help......
Now you can ride north every year, what a pleasant change:scooter:

[carver]

the mormon few can sort them out!

[peasea]

That would tend to help......
Now you can ride north every year, what a pleasant change:scooter:

Pleasant? Ooh, don't know if that's the word I'd use. The last time I travelled on NI roads I was taken aback by the amount of traffic; that was one of the main reasons we fled south. We might take in one or two events but ultimately we've done our dash north of Cook Strait.

[scumdog]

Pleasant? Ooh, don't know if that's the word I'd use. The last time I travelled on NI roads I was taken aback by the amount of traffic; that was one of the main reasons we fled south. We might take in one or two events but ultimately we've done our dash north of Cook Strait.

I agree - honest to God, it's almost like a different country all together.

[peasea]

I agree - honest to God, it's almost like a different country all together.

They even talk differently, nobody rolls their R's unless they're pissed. In fact, more often than not (especially in Auckland) R's are heard as W's unless it's supposed to be W then it's an R.

[scumdog]

They even talk differently, nobody rolls their R's unless they're pissed. In fact, more often than not (especially in Auckland) R's are heard as W's unless it's supposed to be W then it's an R.

And they 'ahks' you a question...:confused:

[Finn]

Back on topic. Chicks dig Harley's - full stop.

I've owned a few bikes from dirt to sports to naked to whatever and nothing pulls chicks like a Harley. The only chicks you'll get on a jappa, z german or itie bikes are "if I have to" chicks. Usually they are not very nice and quite stupid in the head.

Later virgins.

[peasea]

Back on topic. Chicks dig Harley's - full stop.

I've owned a few bikes from dirt to sports to naked to whatever and nothing pulls chicks like a Harley. The only chicks you'll get on a jappa, z german or itie bikes are "if I have to" chicks. Usually they are not very nice and quite stupid in the head.

Later virgins.

If they're not into Harleys then 'stupid in the head' says a bunch.

You're not wrong F, females do tend to like them, maybe it's the styling or more likely the throb but from teeny boppers to nanas, they rarely say no to a ride. Not that I try it on with teeny boppers or nanas, maybe I should.

"How'd I know she was only thirteen?"

or

"It might have been a wrinkle but it was a damned good one."

[Molly]

Oh, I dunno... As much as I love my Harley the women I see hanging around my local dealership and generally bottle-blonde, sort of 'had a hard life' looking bags.

I dare say there are some nice petite birds' arses sitting on the back of a few Ducatis out there (for the style-conscious lady y'see).

[RentaTriumph]

Oh, I dunno... As much as I love my Harley the women I see hanging around my local dealership and generally bottle-blonde, sort of 'had a hard life' looking bags.

I dare say there are some nice petite birds' arses sitting on the back of a few Ducatis out there (for the style-conscious lady y'see).

My experience being a Triumph man is they love the Triumphs over any other bike known to man (said tongue in cheek)

[Headbanger]

Any bike works, Get ino a convo, You can drop the old "what are you doing tomorrow, would you like to come along for a ride?" line in after 5 minutes, If she says no she either thinks your repellent or not into bikes so no loss.

If she says yes you get to have her holding her body up against yours and her arms around you while you do something that is not only great fun but YOU CAN"T FUCKING TALK.

Perfect. She has a great day, has put her trust in you, and you never even had to hold some bullshit conversation.

[Molly]

Now I think about it, I got my first date with my later-to-be-wife by asking her if she wanted to go out on the bike.

[naphazoline]

I think that some womens taste in bikes,is as varied as the people posting in this thread.

Sometimes it's just the colour scheme that seems to tickle their fancy.

For instance,my bike's red and black,and i've had several women approach me,just to tell me they think it looks sexy.(their words not mine.To me a sportsbike aint that pretty.)

But i bet if it was some other colour,specially one dull colour only,that they wouldn't give it a second glance.

[Headbanger]

For instance,my bike's red and black,and i've had several women approach me,just to tell me they think it looks sexy.(their words not mine.To me a sportsbike aint that pretty.)


And you had sex with each and everyone of them?, right?

They were practically begging for it.

[naphazoline]

And you had sex with each and everyone of them?, right?

They were practically begging for it.


Aaaah....No.:whistle:

I got a wife,and i might just wake up to a burnt charcoal coloured bike if i did that.:sick:

[Headbanger]

Aaaah....No.:whistle:

I got a wife,and i might just wake up to a burnt charcoal coloured bike if i did that.:sick:

True, I have the same problem.

That and no women actually come up to me and tell me how sexy my bike is.

But hey, I have my little fantasy world:jerry:

[cave weta]

On Harley handling- from an owner....

Humm, sing,tunes ??????
I'm too busy keeping the old girl under control :eek5:

[James Deuce]

On Harley handling- from an owner....

Mr Subike has an XS11 I believe. It's a Yamaha.

[mdnzz]

Mr Subike has an XS11 I believe. It's a Yamaha.

He does indeed own a prime example of an XS1100, but Cave Weta not too far off lol they are heavy beasts and can be very unforgiving.

[98tls]

He does indeed own a prime example of an XS1100, but Cave Weta not too far off lol they are heavy beasts and can be very unforgiving.
That Harleys or the women on back of em?

[MarkH]

Women that want to ride on the back of a Harley.

More likely:
Women that want to ride on the front of a Harley rider.

[rosie631]

Women that want to ride on the back of a Harley.

Are they still around?? Thought we just went out and got our own bikes nowdays??

[Headbanger]

Are they still around?? Thought we just went out and got our own bikes nowdays??

Yes, in spades.

Not for me as I'm a married man, But I have eyes.

[peasea]

More likely:
Women that want to ride on the front of a Harley rider.

Just quietly, some of those 'squeakies' out there look like they'd be happy to ride on the BACK of a Harley rider.

(Shudders, cringes and reaches for a beer....)

[Headbanger]

Just quietly, some of those 'squeakies' out there look like they'd be happy to ride on the BACK of a Harley rider.

(Shudders, cringes and reaches for a beer....)

Reminds me of when The Angels played a concert as part of the City of Sails bike show, We hooked up with some low class skanks, At the concert me old mate was grinding into this whore, The night wore on and we all got drunker and drunker, I look over and now the whore is behind me old mate and grinding into him:crazy::crazy::crazy:

I laughed and laughed.

Then I clipped it around the ears and told it to fuck off.

[peasea]

Look how far this thread has gone in two weeks. Isn't life grand?

[naphazoline]

Look how far this thread has gone in two weeks. Isn't life grand?

And it's not Harley hating thread that some people thought it was.:)

Quite frankly,i think anybrand with 2 wheels is cool.
And i'm growing more and more fond of that XR 1200 model the more i see it.

Must....stop....looking...........:sweatdrop

[Big Dave]

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[MarkH]

And it's not Harley hating thread that some people thought it was.:)

I'm not a Harley fan, mainly because I am more interested in tourers than cruisers. But I got to admit that the sound (when not trying to sleep or whatever) from the big V-Twin Harley engines is pretty darn sweet. :love:
I have my doubts about whether my neighbours would agree if I rode one though.

[Headbanger]

Doc maybe looking like a middle age drag queen but by my reckoning he is 62 years old and still on stage and rocking. He's doing all right for an old rock dog.

Seen em three times and every show they were kicking out the jams big time.

[AllanB]

We hooked up with some low class skanks, At the concert me old mate was grinding into this whore, The night wore on and we all got drunker and drunker, I look over and now the whore is behind me old mate and grinding into him:crazy::crazy::crazy:

You sir have painted a picture in my mind that I desperately want to get rid of - consequently it will be your fault if I get caught looking up pictures of pretty girls on the internet to replace your demonic vision.

[peasea]

I'm not a Harley fan, mainly because I am more interested in tourers than cruisers. But I got to admit that the sound (when not trying to sleep or whatever) from the big V-Twin Harley engines is pretty darn sweet. :love:
I have my doubts about whether my neighbours would agree if I rode one though.

I have said it before (stuck record and all that) that HD's are like anything else; too loud and they sound crap. Unless you're running a big inch, nitro burner (with nothing HD in it) at a drag strip.

Mildly worked over HD's with a sensible exhaust system sound pretty cool to my ears, as do Duke's, Aprillia's and a plethora of other V-Twins. I've never heard a rotary that I liked and plenty that I've despised, it's probably got a lot to do with pitch etc.

[Molly]

I have said it before (stuck record and all that) that HD's are like anything else; too loud and they sound crap. Unless you're running a big inch, nitro burner (with nothing HD in it) at a drag strip.

Mildly worked over HD's with a sensible exhaust system sound pretty cool to my ears, as do Duke's, Aprillia's and a plethora of other V-Twins. I've never heard a rotary that I liked and plenty that I've despised, it's probably got a lot to do with pitch etc.

Most people don't appreciate the difference between volume and tone. My H-D (modified mufflers based on traditional performance pipes - not just drilled) has a deep, warm rumble (not f'kin' 'clacky' like some Harleys). It sounds bloody nice but wouldn't piss off anybody.

[Headbanger]

Mine is too loud, Sounds mean though, Damn shame it drops its arse with a quieter baffle.

[rosie631]

I laughed and laughed.

Then I clipped it around the ears and told it to fuck off.

I know I shouldn't, very nonPC but LMAO :laugh:

[Big Dave]

Viva Doc.

I wanted to be cooler looking than Keith Richards once too. Now I am. :(