Police get riders at over 200 km/h

[Anarkist]

1:28pm 16 April 2009

The Police radar locked at the speed of the two motorcycles heading for Kaikoura 211 km/h.

16 April 2009

Police have caught two motorcyclists who reached 211 km/h on their way 'to Kaikoura for a coffee', during an operation targeting high-risk behaviour on South Island's stretch of State Highway One. The riders had their licences suspended immediately for 28 days, and will appear in later in court.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," says Acting Canterbury Road Policing Manager Neville Hyland. "This type of behaviour is one of the reasons why. There are plenty of clubs with access to race tracks if you want to travel at these speeds. Otherwise, stick to the rules or be prepared for the consequences."

Police issued 448 tickets for the operation over the first week of April, adding to the 355 issued during the same operation in early March.

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LOL!

So, fess up.. Who was it? :lol:

[Reido]

it was me obviously :banana:

[vifferman]

Liar!!
It was me.

But I had to do 1347km/h to get down there in time for my wee crime spree.

[fergie]

of course it was not a kb member, we are far too well behaved for that

[EJK]

I was on my way to Kaikoura for a lunch with a friend of mine and got busted for speeding

[Finn]

Under current laws / fines, is there any difference between doing 141kph and 211kph?

[DougieNZ]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

[Anarkist]

Under current laws / fines, is there any difference between doing 141kph and 211kph?

Maybe dangerous driving would come in to the equation at that stage?

[Finn]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

Just 3 more hours before you can go home and change your wet panties.

[Dooly]

......and they obviously stopped for the cops while knowing they would be goners. Thats surprising.:(

[Anarkist]

......and they obviously stopped for the cops while knowing they would be goners. Thats surprising.:(

You'd think they'd leave the number plate at home if they were in that much of a rush for their caffeine fix eh? :cool:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

pish posh.

we can infer that 211 km hr was PERFECTLY safe in this instance due to the fact that the motorcyclists stopped, intact when requested by the officer. No one was harmed, ergo it was safe.

why do people insist that a mere velocity is dangerous? it is the sudden shedding of velocity (say by hitting a dangerously parked pleece vehicle) that is dangerous, not the mere fact of travelling at a certain rate. :Pokey:

[klingon]

LOL!

So, fess up.. Who was it? :lol:

It was me on the Volty! Does a police radar reading count as evidence of a new Volty land speed record?

And it'sjust as well they stopped me when they did... you should see how fast I go after I've had my coffee...

[Mikkel]

Under current laws / fines, is there any difference between doing 141kph and 211kph?

You get an automatic dangerous driving charge slapped ontop of the deal if you exceed 150 km/h. Yes I know, at least we don't have quite as fascistic tendencies as the UK yet.

[DougieNZ]

pish posh.

we can infer that 211 km hr was PERFECTLY safe in this instance due to the fact that the motorcyclists stopped, intact when requested by the officer. No one was harmed, ergo it was safe.

why do people insist that a mere velocity is dangerous? it is the sudden shedding of velocity (say by hitting a dangerously parked pleece vehicle) that is dangerous, not the mere fact of travelling at a certain rate. :Pokey:

I knew that was coming.

Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that doing 211km/h on a public highway is "safe".

Basic science says that reaction distance is severely increased at these speeds.

Lets put a scenario. Person in Mini pulls out of a side road in a 100km/h area after looking right to see whether the way is clear. Dickhead motorcyclist comes round the corner at 200km/h and hits the Mini and kills both himself and the driver of the Mini. At 100km/h he would have easily been available to slow down and/or avoid the incident.

Now a test - if your family member was driving the mini... what would your thoughts be?

Sorry, but 211km/h is for the racetrack...

And before the other naysayers chip in... yes I am assuming that they are guilty....

[Gremlin]

Under current laws / fines, is there any difference between doing 141kph and 211kph?
As Mikkel said, and also the judges lack of humour when you're standing in front of him for punishment.

[Ixion]

Shit, the coffee in Kaikoura must be blurdy good!

[popa griffin]

I knew that was coming.

Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that doing 211km/h on a public highway is "safe".

Basic science says that reaction distance is severely increased at these speeds.

Lets put a scenario. Person in Mini pulls out of a side road in a 100km/h area after looking right to see whether the way is clear. Dickhead motorcyclist comes round the corner at 200km/h and hits the Mini and kills both himself and the driver of the Mini. At 100km/h he would have easily been available to slow down and/or avoid the incident.

Now a test - if your family member was driving the mini... what would your thoughts be?

Sorry, but 211km/h is for the racetrack...

And before the other naysayers chip in... yes I am assuming that they are guilty....

I find it hard to belive a bike could be going around a corner at 200km/h unless it was a slight bend in which case the rider could see said mini anyways and slow down in time.

[Qkchk]

Just another excuse to be targeted thanks to some muppets........

[HenryDorsetCase]

I knew that was coming.

Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that doing 211km/h on a public highway is "safe".

Basic science says that reaction distance is severely increased at these speeds.

Lets put a scenario. Person in Mini pulls out of a side road in a 100km/h area after looking right to see whether the way is clear. Dickhead motorcyclist comes round the corner at 200km/h and hits the Mini and kills both himself and the driver of the Mini. At 100km/h he would have easily been available to slow down and/or avoid the incident.

Now a test - if your family member was driving the mini... what would your thoughts be?

Sorry, but 211km/h is for the racetrack...

And before the other naysayers chip in... yes I am assuming that they are guilty....

but it was self evidently safe in this instance: they stopped unharmed.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I find it hard to belive a bike could be going around a corner at 200km/h unless it was a slight bend in which case the rider could see said mini anyways and slow down in time.

he might have been trying to get his kneed down.

[3umph]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

Well from someone that knows that stretch of road really will there are plenty and I mean plenty of places to do said speed and sustain it for a bit of time and safely... the road is in good condition and they have straightened it out heaps...

Anytime you walk out the door you are putting yourself at risk whether on a bike, in a cage or walking... anything can happen at any time...

I have traveled that stretch over the years at some quite quick speeds and been in control when doing so.... I have had more close calls doing the speed limit from loopies not watching where they are going and crossing the center line doing about 80-90k on the open road...

Someone doing 200k+ is not in my mind going to be someone that does not know how to control there bike...

I'm not condoning there actions... they got caught and will pay the cost of there actions... same as I would of if it was me that got caught at that speed...

[3umph]

Shit, the coffee in Kaikoura must be blurdy good!

sure is.... and the fish and chips are good as well:2thumbsup

[pritch]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

Sorry can't agree. If you don't want to travel at those speeds then don't. Others might, but had best pick the time and place better than those two.

I guess thay'll be in the market for a radar detector now. After the horse has bolted...

[Jantar]

Shit, the coffee in Kaikoura must be blurdy good!
It is, but the urn isn't kept hot for very long, so once the call goes out you dodn't have much time to get there. :whistle:

[nallac]

Shit, the coffee in Kaikoura must be blurdy good!


unfortantly i didn't find out..:Police::innocent:

[Mr Merde]

Bring back the man with the red flag, walking in front of the bike or car.

At least no one has brought back the old belief that if you exceed a certain speed the human body would break down. Something like 50mph if memory serves me.

The sky is falling and all the "Chicken Littles" are out in force.

Why do we have vehicles that can easily exceed the speed limit? Surely we should have a governor on every road going vehicle.

Fuck it I'm bored, Bye.

[DougieNZ]

Someone doing 200k+ is not in my mind going to be someone that does not know how to control there bike.....

Ahhh the old "if you are a good rider you are OK to travel at 200km/h" debate...

I have heard more than one article this year where grieving friends have said:

"I just can't understand it, HE WAS SUCH A GOOD RIDER"

Fact: Human reaction dictates there will still be a minimum distance travelled. The faster you go, the longer it is...It is not influenced by:

- Whether you are a "good" rider
- Whether you "know" the road
- What bike you are riding
- How many times you have ridden on that road

[3umph]

It is, but the urn isn't kept hot for very long, so once the call goes out you dodn't have much time to get there. :whistle:

:2thumbsup:2thumbsup yip yip yip :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[Maha]

Well from someone that knows that stretch of road really will there are plenty and I mean plenty of places to do said speed and sustain it for a bit of time and safely... the road is in good condition and they have straightened it out heaps...

Anytime you walk out the door you are putting yourself at risk whether on a bike, in a cage or walking... anything can happen at any time...

I have traveled that stretch over the years at some quite quick speeds and been in control when doing so.... I have had more close calls doing the speed limit from loopies not watching where they are going and crossing the center line doing about 80-90k on the open road...

Someone doing 200k+ is not in my mind going to be someone that does not know how to control there bike...

I'm not condoning there actions... they got caught and will pay the cost of there actions... same as I would of if it was me that got caught at that speed...


A well thought out and mature post 3umph....
That being said, what also should get a mention is that, these clowns would not have been 200+ for any length of time...they chose the wrong moment in which to do so...Fags!!!....:2thumbsup
I know of many who would hit the 200 mark, choosing the right place to do so helps keep ya bike at least.

[3umph]

Ahhh the old "if you are a good rider you are OK to travel at 200km/h" debate...

I have heard more than one article this year where grieving friends have said:

"I just can't understand it, HE WAS SUCH A GOOD RIDER"

Fact: Human reaction dictates there will still be a minimum distance travelled. The faster you go, the longer it is...It is not influenced by:

- Whether you are a "good" rider
- Whether you "know" the road
- What bike you are riding
- How many times you have ridden on that road

so what about the good law abiding rider that gets wiped out by a campervan driven by a tourist crossing to the other side of the road... so outlaw campervans or tourists driving... why could the driver and rider of stopped in time???

many places the speed limit is way too fast if the 'what if' happens or things happen to close for any avoidance to happen...

[3umph]

Can any one enlighten us to what section of the road that the bikes were pulled up....

as there are many places to get to that sort of speed from chch to kaikoura

[PrincessBandit]

Can any one enlighten us to what section of the road that the bikes were pulled up....



Some of the wind gusts around that area are pretty freaky, so throw that "unpredictability" into the mix and it could be devastating.
yeah sure sure, they weren't hurt, no one died **said with long drawnout groaning sound**, but playing with fire is gonna get someone burnt eventually.

[3umph]

Some of the wind gusts around that area are pretty freaky, so throw that "unpredictability" into the mix and it could be devastating.


yeah I know that.... even at at 100k they can be real bad but was it real windy that day???

some trucks traveling the opposite way are bad enough for wind gusts at time...

Ice grit is also put on the road as well... and the odd time loose stock.... birds eating road kill... etc etc...

[MisterD]

Can any one enlighten us to what section of the road that the bikes were pulled up....

as there are many places to get to that sort of speed from chch to kaikoura

Between Parnassus and Hundalee is as precise as the Harold report gets.

[Mully]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2340007/Speeding-bikies-getting-coffee

You lawless heathen

[JimO]

whats 211ks in mph

[JimO]

arrrrrr im a pirate

[HenryDorsetCase]

Shit, the coffee in Kaikoura must be blurdy good!

We've been known to ride up the inland Kaikoura road, stop at Hislops (http://www.hislops-wholefoods.co.nz/) for lunch, then ride down the coast road home. Its a lovely day out, and the coffee at Hislops is excellent. As is the food.

I once went 212 km/h, while doing what the swedish people were doing in their Mazda ("No wonder I was weaving all over the road yeronner, I couldn't see much apart from Doris' back") and while drinking bourbon and torturing seals.

Johnny Scofflaw, thats me.

[3umph]

arrr yes a usual place for targeting speeding motorists.... just north of Parnassus there are a few good straights and a newish section of road that took the cutting out.... very common place to open the taps up...

bottom left is the waiau river... top is the conway river...

[jetboy]

whats 211ks in mph
131mph..........(10 characters)

[YellowDog]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.
211kph is 132mph.

Well I am not sure I agree with your comments. We don't really know if these guys were idiots or not.

Years back I used to enjoy riding my bike on motorways at 120mph. I would touch 130mph sometimes and have been as fast as 155. Such speeds are really is quite exhilarating. Maybe this is what these entrapped bikers were doing. I would say that 120mph is a good speed to ride at and you can maintain good control and react quickly enough to stay safe (depending upon the road conditions and traffic volume). 155mph is not safe and you are a great deal more vulnerable, regardless of the road conditions.

The judgement call on these guys has to be whether they were putting themselves (and others) in danger. If the Police set up a trap I suspect that this may well be a safe stretch of road and the Police were using this tactic expecting to entrap safe speeders. I do not know however unless you know the road and the conditions, it is not for us to make such a judgement.

[3umph]

whats 211ks in mph

about 130mph

[Finn]

whats 211ks in mph

131.12 sonny.

[pritch]

Years back I used to enjoy riding my bike on motorways at 120mph. I would touch 130mph sometimes and have been as fast as 155.


So is there a statute of limitations on dangerous driving? :whistle:

[Dave Lobster]

Ahhh the old "if you are a good rider you are OK to travel at 200km/h" debate...

I have heard more than one article this year where grieving friends have said:

"I just can't understand it, HE WAS SUCH A GOOD RIDER"

Fact: Human reaction dictates there will still be a minimum distance travelled. The faster you go, the longer it is...It is not influenced by:

- Whether you are a "good" rider
- Whether you "know" the road
- What bike you are riding
- How many times you have ridden on that road

I bet you're a laugh a fucking minute on the piss, aren't you?


whats 211ks in real money

Third gear.

[Anarkist]

whats 211ks in mph

I'm going to go with.. Ummm... 131 mph.


131mph


211kph is 132mph.


about 130mph


131.12 sonny.

[Swampdonkey]

You should be ashamed....i bet you cant even wave going that quick....

[Sonicjoe]

I'm going to go with.. Ummm... 131 mph.
131.10932156207747 Miles per Hour to be exact...google if your friend!:hug::2thumbsup

[DougieNZ]

I bet you're a laugh a fucking minute on the piss, aren't you?



Third gear.

I've had my moments.... :2thumbsup

[dpex]

I knew that was coming.

Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that doing 211km/h on a public highway is "safe".

Basic science says that reaction distance is severely increased at these speeds.

Lets put a scenario. Person in Mini pulls out of a side road in a 100km/h area after looking right to see whether the way is clear. Dickhead motorcyclist comes round the corner at 200km/h and hits the Mini and kills both himself and the driver of the Mini. At 100km/h he would have easily been available to slow down and/or avoid the incident.

Now a test - if your family member was driving the mini... what would your thoughts be?

Sorry, but 211km/h is for the racetrack...

And before the other naysayers chip in... yes I am assuming that they are guilty....


I beg to differ.

If you cannot pull up your bike from 211Kph to a pootle, within 100M, then I suggest you get some track-time under your belt.

Hells teeth, even Sinful can do that on his horrid little Tripple, and with him in charge of it!

[YellowDog]

I guess we could start taking bets on the right answer.

mph/kph = 5/8

100mph = 160kph

That 1.5 kph could make all of the difference :)

[Gubb]

I can stop from 60Km/h in less than 2 meters.

[98tls]

Between Parnassus and Hundalee is as precise as the Harold report gets. Grew up just North of Parnassus (hawkswood cutting) and yep theres many a spot to do that speed and more though theres more fun to be had Nth a bit and at less top speed,cant really see what all the fuss is about,they did it they got caught big deal.200 clicks isnt top speed on many bikes available these days and i have no doubts many including myself see such speed on a fairly regular basis on the right roads albeit briefly.

[Cr1MiNaL]

I think DougieNZ is full of horse shit.
- Speed kills?
- sharp bends on public highways?
- 'ass'-u-mes a lot
- mini's suck donkey balls anyway.


Who votes DougieNZ site retard? I'll put one vote down.

[3umph]

i have no doubts many including myself see such speed on a fairly regular basis on the right roads albeit briefly.

i would agree with that....

[chrispy121]

to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads

[Anarkist]

I can stop from 60Km/h in less than 2 meters.

In the wet.

[bikejam2]

THATS IT!! I'M OFF TO KAIKOURA TO GIT ME SOME COFFEE!!! SOUNDS BWARDY MARVELLOUS :drinkup: Oooooooooo....actually.....:beer:

[rufusdion]

I know speeding bad - but if you going that fast why would you stop for mr plod?

[HenryDorsetCase]

to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads

Ive heard they're satanists, too.

And they're unkind to children, and pets.

[toycollector10]

If they were Blenheim locals they're pretty dumb. The road between there and Kaikoura is crawling with cops most of the time. And that's pretty much known by all the locals. I know, I lived there for 17 years and often travelled that road to get to my favourite surf spots and also get paua.

The best trick is to do 100 kph exactly down the "Tar Barrel Hill" then cross the big bridge over the Ure River, all legal like. Then give them (the cops) a big toothy grin and a wave as you go by.

[Ixion]

Burn them.

[nodrog]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

lucky i was still in 3rd gear.

[The Pastor]

I was trying to spin the earth backwards using my tyre, to turn back time so i could watch my tv show i missed last night!

[JimO]

131.12 sonny.

thanks dad

[nodrog]

to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads

oh lordy lord, take a look at yourselves people, the floppy cucumber has spoken.

crawl back into your bubblewrap for fucksakes.

[3umph]

to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads

no one is really saying that it is ok and condoning there actions...
they did the crime and they will do the time... end of story...

no its not ok to speed... same as its not ok to do a lot of things but people still do...

the topics with the speed poles are more that the 'powers that be' would be looking at...
last 2 had different results so most of us must BS on here or the results should of been the same..
FFS most modern bikes can do over 200 clicks and dont need much room to do it....

you need to pull ya head out of your own arse for a while....

ps... yes my dick does have a head and the wife says its a nice one

[YellowDog]

Grew up just North of Parnassus (hawkswood cutting) and yep theres many a spot to do that speed and more though theres more fun to be had Nth a bit and at less top speed,cant really see what all the fuss is about,they did it they got caught big deal.200 clicks isnt top speed on many bikes available these days and i have no doubts many including myself see such speed on a fairly regular basis on the right roads albeit briefly.
Maybe they should pick a spot where there have actually been some accidents cause by wreckless riding/driving?

[Katman]

To all the fuckwits saying 200kph+ on public roads is perfectly safe - what a lot of fucking shit. What about that dumb sheep, rabbit, dog, cat, bird etc. that chooses to dart out from the long grass on the side of that straight section of road?

Fuck me, if car drivers customarily drove on our roads at 200kph+ you'd all be pissing blood.

[nodrog]

To all the fuckwits saying 200kph+ on public roads is perfectly safe - what a lot of fucking shit. What about that dumb sheep, rabbit, dog, cat, bird etc. that chooses to dart out from the long grass on the side of that straight section of road?

Fuck me, if car drivers customarily drove on our roads at 200kph+ you'd all be pissing blood.

we should ban bullrush while we are at it.

[Sollyboy]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

What evers , I think that people have done far higher speeds on nz roads with no problems if you dont want to speed then thats your choice they have their choice and now they pay and thats not so choice, as far I can see they biggest mistake was getting caught cause now they got to go to court:rofl:

[Katman]

we should ban bullrush while we are at it.

Remind me, how many people have died playing bullrush?

[_Shrek_]

211kph is 132mph.
The judgement call on these guys has to be whether they were putting themselves (and others) in danger. If the Police set up a trap I suspect that this may well be a safe stretch of road and the Police were using this tactic expecting to entrap safe speeders. I do not know however unless you know the road and the conditions, it is not for us to make such a judgement.

like a few of the guys in here I ride that streach of road a fair bit & it is a nice peace of road to let your hair down as it were... not that I have any hair :whistle:

[98tls]

to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads Grow the fuck up.You really believe that most motorcyclists toddle round at 100 clicks an hour all the time,i know i dont and believe that far more others dont than do,maybe ive got it all wrong ive only been riding for 38 years.The only thing that got hurt here was the guys wallet,get over it.

[Dave Lobster]

200 clicks isnt top speed on many bikes available these days and i have no doubts many including myself see such speed on a fairly regular basis on the right roads albeit briefly.

Even my 250 goes faster than that..

[nallac]

[QUOTE=Katman;2030057
Fuck me, if car drivers customarily drove on our roads at 200kph+ you'd all be pissing blood.[/QUOTE]

HELL NO!!!!, it'd make overtaking em more fun....:2thumbsup

[_Shrek_]

ive only been riding for 38 years.The only thing that got hurt here was the guys wallet,get over it.

shit you must be realy old then

[98tls]

To all the fuckwits saying 200kph+ on public roads is perfectly safe - what a lot of fucking shit. What about that dumb sheep, rabbit, dog, cat, bird etc. that chooses to dart out from the long grass on the side of that straight section of road?

Fuck me, if car drivers customarily drove on our roads at 200kph+ you'd all be pissing blood. From my point view anyway im not saying its safe,theres roads and theres roads the way i see it,in this case these guys did it in a place i wouldnt advise to do it purely from a going to hurt your wallet perspective,its never going to be safe ie tyre blows blah blah as you say sheep etc but thats the chance you take i guess,no matter what i refuse to believe everybody gets around at 100 clicks all the time,on every trip away/on every sunday blast down there favourite road etc,its easy to say you do on a computer but na,sometimes everybody just lets go.

[98tls]

shit you must be realy old then
First bike was an SL125 Honda when i was 9,living in the middle of nowhere meant lots of illegal road time.:2thumbsup

[3umph]

HELL NO!!!!, it'd make overtaking em more fun....:2thumbsup

:whistle::whistle::laugh::laugh:

[mynameis]

difference between 141kph and 211kph?


70 km/ph :scratch:

[Headbanger]

you guys are legends in your own underpants.


I like that, So much so I'm going to use it as my own.

That aside, Aint it a bitch when the damn mechanic won't take your bike up over 200k/h to see for himself that the bike has lost some top end speed.

What the fuck do they feed these fuckers on?,fairy cake?

[Katman]

its never going to be safe ie tyre blows blah blah as you say sheep etc but thats the chance you take i guess

And that attitude that "I'm a crazy motorcyclist, but meh, what can I do about it" is the very attitude that is likely to kill Motorcycling in New Zealand as we currently know it.

The fact that fuckwits on here constantly complain about car drivers pulling out on them unexpectedly, but praise the actions of motorcyclists that ride in a manner that is far from responsible, makes me want to fucking puke.

[Maha]

Remind me, how many people have died playing bullrush?

Not many, if any........damn, I sound like 'Scribe'!!!........:crazy:

[3umph]

And that attitude that "I'm a crazy motorcyclist, but meh, what can I do about it" is the very attitude that is likely to kill Motorcycling in New Zealand as we currently know it.

The fact that fuckwits on here constantly complain about car drivers pulling out on them unexpectedly, but praise the actions of motorcyclists that ride in a manner that is far from responsible, makes me want to fucking puke.

nh nah nah.... its just that


you guys are legends in your own underpants.

:bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

[_Shrek_]

What about that dumb sheep, rabbit, dog, cat, bird etc. that chooses to dart out from the long grass on the side of that straight section of road?

these things are an every day thing wheather @ 50, 100 or 200 & so are dickheads it's a part of life

[Edbear]

shit you must be realy old then

OI! Who you callin' old!? :girlfight:

'Sides, after 38 years, you can boast how long you been ridin'...:2thumbsup

[3umph]

these things are an every day thing wheather @ 50, 100 or 200 & so are dickheads it's a part of life

dont forget the terrorists.... opps sorry tourists that are also a major problem on the roads.... or the foreigners that get licences in there own country that can not drive...

hazards are ther at all speeds... and even when you are stopped...

[Katman]

these things are an every day thing wheather @ 50, 100 or 200 & so are dickheads it's a part of life

You think I'm too fucking dumb to realise that?

There's a big difference between 100kph and 200 kph.

[_Shrek_]

OI! Who you callin' old!? :girlfight:

'Sides, after 38 years, you can boast how long you been ridin'...:2thumbsup

:rofl: 38 for me this year & 98tls is still realy old

[nallac]

dont forget the terrorists.... opps sorry tourists that are also a major problem on the roads.... or the foreigners that get licences in there own country that can not drive...

hazards are therE at all speeds... and even when you are stopped...

don't forget the goody two shoe bikers doing the speed limit,
sheesh getting in our way while we are doing 200+ .
man they are just unsafe.....

[3umph]

You think I'm too fucking dumb to realise that?

There's a big difference between 100kph and 200 kph.

whats the difference to hitting a bank at 200kph or hitting a truck at 100kph and the truck doing 100kph towards you... f all still a 200kph impact

[Maha]

HELL NO!!!!, it'd make overtaking em more fun....:2thumbsup

Interestingly, I have been overtaken at around that speed, wasn't a pretty sight watching when things went a bit spastic seconds after, I must add that, the bike itself, handled the situation very well on one wheel, when the front rejoined with the road....:whistle:

[nallac]

There's a big difference between 100kph and 200 kph.

about 1/4 more throttle....

[3umph]

don't forget the goody two shoe bikers doing the speed limit,
sheesh getting in our way while we are doing 200+ .
man they are just unsafe.....

dam I forgot them.... :2thumbsup


i'm off to do 200kph down Colombo St who want to come for a spin????

[nallac]

dam I forgot them.... :2thumbsup


i'm off to do 200kph down Colombo St who want to come for a spin????

be there soon, its only bout 1000 odd ks there, should be there in about 4 1/2 hours:zzzz:

[jaymzw]

dam I forgot them.... :2thumbsup


i'm off to do 200kph down Colombo St who want to come for a spin????

After today, if you dont do more than 211k's you'll be considered a poser :oi-grr:

[AllanB]

dam I forgot them.... :2thumbsup


i'm off to do 200kph down Colombo St who want to come for a spin????


Some years ago my boss purchased a brand new turbo 200SX Nissan and took me for a ride - I recall closing my eyes as he hit 100 past Smiths City heading down from the over-bridge..........:eek5:

The most dangerous part of a ride to Kaikoura is riding though Christchurch on the way out and coming back through Christchurch on the way home.

[Edbear]

:rofl: 38 for me this year & 98tls is still realy old

39 for me this year and I'm a youngun'...:pinch:

[Katman]

whats the difference to hitting a bank at 200kph or hitting a truck at 100kph and the truck doing 100kph towards you... f all still a 200kph impact

If you're on your side of the road and he's on his then you're not likely to collide.

If he's on your side, that's a fuck. If you're on his side you're the fuck.

[98tls]

And that attitude that "I'm a crazy motorcyclist, but meh, what can I do about it" is the very attitude that is likely to kill Motorcycling in New Zealand as we currently know it.

The fact that fuckwits on here constantly complain about car drivers pulling out on them unexpectedly but praise the actions of motorcyclists that ride in a manner that is far from responsible makes me want to fucking puke. Yep i can and always have seen your point Katman and have never got into the continual whinging posts about your point but in this case just trying to make a point myself,i dont have an opinion on these guys actions really let alone condoning it there just a couple of guys out doing there thing and got pinged,ive no idea how long they did 200 clicks for but would guess not long as the nature of kiwi roads would suggest they would have to of slowed down sooner rather than later..we all know this,was it responsible?in the eyes of the law i guess not,was it safe?knowing that section of road i would say yes to a degree.You will never stop people on bikes doing things like this..never,bikes are bikes n people are people,far more important methinks is getting people to see theres a time/place/road etc to do such things.People can rant on about "take it to a track" till the cows come home,good point but its not going to stop people going hard on road bikes on the road.Like i said i see your point and as good a point as it is its not going to stop guys doing it.The answer?no idea.i learnt through 38 years of riding,i was lucky to have survived a few big offs way back and as i posted theres a time n place.

[3umph]

The most dangerous part of a ride to Kaikoura is riding though Christchurch on the way out and coming back through Christchurch on the way home.

yip.... :2thumbsup

[Sollyboy]

And that attitude that "I'm a crazy motorcyclist, but meh, what can I do about it" is the very attitude that is likely to kill Motorcycling in New Zealand as we currently know it.


Its been speculated that many things that happen in NZ will kill motorcycling as we know it , like when the wire wheel katana 1100 came out and people said it was to fast for the road and we are drawing attention to ourselves or more realistically when in 99 a Haya busa hit the showrooms and it did 320 kmh (it actually was a fast bike unlike the katana)and people say oh no oh no the sky is falling on my head and ten years on its all cool , chillax bloke have a beers and go for a ride

[3umph]

Yep i can and always have seen your point Katman and have never got into the continual whinging posts about your point but in this case just trying to make a point myself,i dont have an opinion on these guys actions really let alone condoning it there just a couple of guys out doing there thing and got pinged,ive no idea how long they did 200 clicks for but would guess not long as the nature of kiwi roads would suggest they would have to of slowed down sooner rather than later..we all know this,was it responsible?in the eyes of the law i guess not,was it safe?knowing that section of road i would say yes to a degree.You will never stop people on bikes doing things like this..never,bikes are bikes n people are people,far more important methinks is getting people to see theres a time/place/road etc to do such things.People can rant on about "take it to a track" till the cows come home,good point but its not going to stop people going hard on road bikes on the road.Like i said i see your point and as good a point as it is its not going to stop guys doing it.The answer?no idea.i learnt through 38 years of riding,i was lucky to have survived a few big offs way back and as i posted theres a time n place.

yip.... :beer:

[Katman]

Yep i can and always have seen your point Katman and have never got into the continual whinging posts about your point but in this case just trying to make a point myself

And so am I.

I haven't specifically directed my comments to the riders in question, rather more so, to the posters that blindly claim that doing 200kph+ is perfectly safe.

[98tls]

:rofl: 38 for me this year & 98tls is still realy old
Yep so old im shrinkin,my dicks still bigger than yours though.;)

[98tls]

And so am I.

I haven't specifically directed my comments to the riders in question, rather more so, to the posters that blindly claim that doing 200kph+ is perfectly safe.
Yep fair call.

[jaymzw]

and so am i.

I haven't specifically directed my comments to the riders in question, rather more so, to the posters that blindly claim that doing 200kph+ is perfectly safe.



yep fair call.

fuck!!! No!!! Don"t agree!!!!

[Thani-B]

You get an automatic dangerous driving charge slapped ontop of the deal if you exceed 150 km/h. Yes I know, at least we don't have quite as fascistic tendencies as the UK yet.

Not true. I know a rider who got caught doing 170km. Lost his licence for 6 months for speeding. Didnt get the dangerous driving. It depends on the circumstances. But then also know a cager who got done at 165km and did get the dangerous driving on top of speeding.


I know speeding bad - but if you going that fast why would you stop for mr plod?

Good question. I agree. Why?

[3umph]

And so am I.

I haven't specifically directed my comments to the riders in question, rather more so, to the posters that blindly claim that doing 200kph+ is perfectly safe.

who said it is perfectly safe??? i dont think any one has said that...

who ever does that knows the risks involved same as walking out the gate or driving a cage or choosing to cross infront of a train....

nothing is perfectly safe.... I've even heard of people having a crap and dying of a heart attack so even doing something important in life is not perfectly safe...

[98tls]

Its been speculated that many things that happen in NZ will kill motorcycling as we know it , like when the wire wheel katana 1100 came out and people said it was to fast for the road and we are drawing attention to ourselves or more realistically when in 99 a Haya busa hit the showrooms and it did 320 kmh (it actually was a fast bike unlike the katana)and people say oh no oh no the sky is falling on my head and ten years on its all cool , chillax bloke have a beers and go for a ride The Katana was and still is a fast bike,after everything from a Vincent to a few 900SS bevel drives the old man bought a new one,i was a young fella and can still remember him saying "only bike ive ever ridden 2 up with gear that you can crank it at 120mph and it just fucks off".

[awayatc]

being safe is highly overrated....
getting into a safe on the other hand....

Wrong forum..?

[breakaway]

You're all wrong. I just got back from a ride, and touched 250 several times. Felt great.

Some prick in a mini pulled out on me as well... luckily I was able to swirve around him.

[kiwifruit]

when in 99 a Haya busa hit the showrooms and it did 320 kmh

320 Indicated.

[roadracingoldfart]

So when a situation occurs that makes the 6 oclock news is condoned and classed as bloody fantastic riding by fellow motorcyclists then something makes me wonder.

How many posts have been put in this thread saying possitive comments as to how great the speed is and yer , go for it and rubbishing those that post a dissagreement of the situation really believe the sponsors names proudly displayed as a signiture on every post really make a sponsor look good ??? .

Ummmm let me guess ????

And no , i dont think the speed those guys / girls did is acceptable on a public road no matter how good the road is or how good the riders think they are. Thats for the track not the road.


Paul.

[3umph]

You're all wrong. I just got back from a ride, and touched 250 several times. Felt great.

Some prick in a mini pulled out on me as well... luckily I was able to swirve around him.

in Dorkland is that 250m per hour????

[marty]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

Oh go and start a fucking group.

[breakaway]

in Dorkland is that 250m per hour????

Don't know what unit of measurement you use out there in the wops but in Auckland we have km/h

[marty]

So is there a statute of limitations on dangerous driving? :whistle:

6 months..........

[Kaituna]

211km/h................I dream of going that fast, if only my DR650 would stop wobbling and grow an extra testicle!

[3umph]

Don't know what unit of measurement you use out there in the wops but in Auckland we have km/h

last time I was up there I think it was more like h/km.... dam congestion :doh::jerry:

we dont really have that down here...:2thumbsup

[Indiana_Jones]

Fact: Human reaction dictates there will still be a minimum distance travelled. The faster you go, the longer it is...It is not influenced by:


Unless you're Skidmark, then you could stop in 2m....

-Indy

[jtzzr]

200km/h is against the law ,if it bothers so many people , lets raise the speed limit to 200km/h , then it`s all good. :whistle: p/t

Anything else I can help with?

DougieNz won`t your`e ST go that fast is that why your upset?

[98tls]

211km/h................I dream of going that fast, if only my DR650 would stop wobbling and grow an extra testicle! No idea of the actual figures but will take a wild stab in the dark and suggest that the huge majority of sportsbikes or any other kind of bike over 600cc never sees a race track in its life,some will say and i agree to a point 2 up with gear a larger capacity bike etc is all good but that aside theres no way anyone will convince me that the only portion of said bikes that sees the + side of 100km/h are owned by the lowest form of individual destined for the gates of hell.Thats the problem with the interweb,people can live in glass houses and get away with throwing stones.Edit not a crack at the poster of quote.

[_Shrek_]

Yep so old im shrinkin,my dicks still bigger than yours though.;)

Mrs S wants to know how you know... mmmmmmmmmm :scratch: so do I...

:mega: H.O.T where are you? you spose to be looking after me when we are at a rally

[elevenhundred]

To quote Jonathan Livingston Seagull "but the speed was power, and the speed was joy, and the speed was pure beauty"

[doc]

:girlfight:Cmon ppl fess up .Most of us have bike that will do these sort of speeds and on the odd ride you have to just sort of check it out. Just in case that is off tune sort of... you know what I mean. But Faaark you usually pick the place and don't get caught doing it or put "Ma n Pah at risk . Or maybe I'm just old fashioned. Or naive that that others don't do it too. You do the crime you do the time here.:girlfight:

[98tls]

Mrs S wants to know how you know... mmmmmmmmmm :scratch: so do I...

:mega: H.O.T where are you? you spose to be looking after me when we are at a rally Remember that time at band camp?:beer:

[smoky]

Apart from the fact that you would need to be a dickhead to be doing that sort of speed and putting yourself and innocent others at risk?

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

Oh dear here we go...... the KB saints have emerged

[_Shrek_]

You think I'm too fucking dumb to realise that?

There's a big difference between 100kph and 200 kph.

I wasn't thinking or saying you were too dumb to realise it, any more than I'm saying that speeding is ok,

I was simply stating a fact, it happens

[_Shrek_]

:girlfight:Cmon ppl fess up .Most of us have bike that will do these sort of speeds and on the odd ride you have to just sort of check it out. Just in case that is off tune sort of... you know what I mean. But Faaark you usually pick the place and don't get caught doing it or put "Ma n Pah at risk . Or maybe I'm just old fashioned. Or naive that that others don't do it too. You do the crime you do the time here.:girlfight:

na doc my steed only does 195 & that was on a private road down souf

[Katman]

I wasn't thinking or saying you were too dumb to realise it, any more than I'm saying that speeding is ok,

I was simply stating a fact, it happens

Sure it happens.

But couple that with the endless posts from motorcyclists whinging about "fucking cagers this" and "fucking cagers that" and it all adds up to making us look like a bunch of dumbfucks.

[HenryDorsetCase]

And so am I.

I haven't specifically directed my comments to the riders in question, rather more so, to the posters that blindly claim that doing 200kph+ is perfectly safe.

did you read my post, and take my point? In this instance it WAS perfectly safe, as evidenced by the fact that they stopped and were ticketed.

Safe is a binary concept.

[smoky]

My bike can get up to and over 200Klm/hr fairly quick and in not much distance
I have been up that road just recently - and when the road was clear ahead, yes I did wind it up a couple of times

I love the feeling, I occasionally wind my car up to those speeds as well - I'm just bad to the bone I guess

I guess one day I'll get it wrong, and some one will say something nice at my funeral, while some one on Kb will quote this post and say I was asking for it

But hey I'd rather live a year as a tiger than 100 as a sheep

[Katman]

did you read my post, and take my point? In this instance it WAS perfectly safe, as evidenced by the fact that they stopped and were ticketed.

Safe is a binary concept.

Fuckin' bullshit.

Didn't you notice the psychotic sheep hell bent on destruction two kilometres up the road from where they were pulled over?

[3umph]

Fuckin' bullshit.

Didn't you notice the psychotic sheep heel bent on destruction two kilometres up the road from where they were pulled over?

hell yeah stopped and caught him... then killed him and had a bbq on the side of the road.... nothing like fresh meat

[MaxB]

last time I was up there I think it was more like h/km.... dam congestion :doh::jerry:

we dont really have that down here...:2thumbsup

You mean like the farkin one way system or Hornby at 5 pm on a weeknight? Its no worse than up here but CHCH has its moments.

[Katman]

I guess one day I'll get it wrong, and some one will say something nice at my funeral,

And if you take an innocent life at the same time, I'll call you a cocksucker at your funeral.

[3umph]

You mean like the farkin one way system or Hornby at 5 pm on a weeknight? Its no worse than up here but CHCH has its moments.

we think thats bad here but its not really... welly and alk top the cake for delays there

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fuckin' bullshit.

Didn't you notice the psychotic sheep heel bent on destruction two kilometres up the road from where they were pulled over?

didn't YOU notice the farmer with the velcro gloves and the fact the sheep had its rear legs firmly inside the guys gumboots?

Christ, chill out will you?

[HenryDorsetCase]

And if you take an innocent life at the same time, I'll call you a cocksucker at your funeral.

why would you go to a funeral and cause trouble? all you do is upset the guy's relatives who will take you outside and strap you to a car and MAKE you do 200kph......

just so you know what fun is. They might have a few bourbons first too, and maybe stop after and have a BBQ.

[Katman]

Christ, chill out will you?

Yeah, lets all chill out.

Lets just let all the dumbfucks kill themsleves.

Not a bad plan actually.

[doc]

My bike can get up to and over 200Klm/hr fairly quick and in not much distance
I have been up that road just recently - and when the road was clear ahead, yes I did wind it up a couple of times

I know what you mean. But I did that with a tankcam just to get a vid of the speedo reading excessive speed.... ie 240. When I played it back, I never noticed the dog running down the race towards the open deer fence when I was hanging on trying to avoid being blown off, on the Waiau road just sth of Kaikoura . Changes your perception when you see THINGS you never noticed when you thought you were being carefull in a stupid sort of way. :angry2:
Of course it would have been the farmers fault for not supervising his dog near a public road . aye

[Katman]

why would you go to a funeral and cause trouble?

Yeah, you're right.

I wouldn't bother my arse to go.

I'd still call them a cocksucker though.

[MaxB]

Does any one know who got busted?

Might be nice to hear their side of the story and stop some of the guesswork.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah, lets all chill out.

Lets just let all the dumbfucks kill themsleves.

Not a bad plan actually.

not only that you would have the self satisfaction of "winning" your argument. You know, with the speed and the death and the maiming, while you continue on in your serene, lawful, speed limited world.

Pass the cocoa, vicar, pull up a chair, and lets look at this Farmers brochure, I see they're having a lovely special on beige cardigans.

[98tls]

Yeah, lets all chill out.

Lets just let all the dumbfucks kill themsleves.

Not a bad plan actually. Or at least retire from the debate happy in the knowledge that whilst everyone wont share our own personal opinion that by expressing it we have on the internet anyway hopefully given some food for thought,wether it sinks in or not we may never know,tis all one can do.What i do know is that the interweb would be a far more boring place than it already is if we all agreed.

[98tls]

Does any one know who got busted?

Might be nice to hear their side of the story and stop some of the guesswork. Be a fairly brief story methinks.

[jafar]

Be a fairly brief story methinks.

Along the lines of "we saw the cops so we slowed down"?????:argh:

[PSYCHO]

Do all you pc softcocks never go over 100kmh?

Hey, it's their licenses,lifes etc. If they wanna ride like that then it's their decision.

Fuck,they shoulda been on the back wheel too I say! what were they fucking round at?

oh well

[munterk6]

Does any one know who got busted?

Might be nice to hear their side of the story and stop some of the guesswork.

ah..G...F.... (clue)

[3umph]

Be a fairly brief story methinks.

yeah... well we were doing 320 when we spied the yellow and blue car sitting on the side of the road.... slowed to 211 so the fine would not be to bad...
The officer signalled us to stop so eased on the brakes... we did so safely and made him walk 100m towards us so we could not be done for dangerous driving.

we gave him our licences and keys to the bike and asked him for the paperwork...

we asked him to take us to Kaikoura and we would shout him a really nice coffee and some doughnuts...

[Nonbeliever]

yeah... well we were doing 320 when we spied the yellow and blue car sitting on the side of the road.... slowed to 211 so the fine would not be to bad...
The officer signalled us to stop so eased on the brakes... we did so safely and made him walk 100m towards us so we could not be done for dangerous driving.

we gave him our licences and keys to the bike and asked him for the paperwork...

we asked him to take us to Kaikoura and we would shout him a really nice coffee and some doughnuts...

LOL

I find bugs can hurt like hell at speeds over 200kmh, when wearing just a T-shirt.

[3umph]

LOL

I find bugs can hurt like hell at speeds over 200kmh, when wearing just a T-shirt.

and shorts I hope..... but please not speedos

[Mikkel]

211 km/h :eek5: And noone died? Who would have thought? My good friends in the TV who also put signs up along the side of the road has promised me that speed kills. I suppose it must just mean that 211 km/h actually isn't fast...

The only thing I don't get is why they bothered to stop? After all, there are rules of engagement as far as pulling people over goes. And considering how the road code is laid out it would appear that there wouldn't be any significant difference in being pulled over doing 150, 200, 250 or 300 km/h for that matter...

I sure as hell wouldn't pull over unless they were sitting right on my tail me with lights and sirens on. And even then I'd indicate and move left in the lane and wave them on past - surely they must be in a hurry :)


We've been known to ride up the inland Kaikoura road, stop at Hislops (http://www.hislops-wholefoods.co.nz/) for lunch, then ride down the coast road home. Its a lovely day out, and the coffee at Hislops is excellent. As is the food.

I once went 212 km/h, while doing what the swedish people were doing in their Mazda ("No wonder I was weaving all over the road yeronner, I couldn't see much apart from Doris' back") and while drinking bourbon and torturing seals.

Is their genuine Kairkoura whale steak burger still as good as I remember?


131.10932156207747 Miles per Hour to be exact...google if your friend!:hug::2thumbsup

Considering we were given a speed figure of 211 km/h (3 significant digits) 131 mph is the correct answer. If it had been 211.00000000000000 then maybe you would be correct. :yes:


to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads

Cry me a fucking river Captain Softcock. Don't you have some organic tofu that needs cultivating?

As for trackdays - most of them aren't covered by insurance. So anyone who behave like idiots there are not very likely to push up your premium now is it?


To all the fuckwits saying 200kph+ on public roads is perfectly safe - what a lot of fucking shit. What about that dumb sheep, rabbit, dog, cat, bird etc. that chooses to dart out from the long grass on the side of that straight section of road?

200+ km/h is perfectly safe in some places. 50 km/h isn't safe in others - nothing new here.
The only regretable side-effects of this incidence is 1) they got caught 2) the media hype that surrounds it 3) two bikes are going to be very bored for at least 6 months. And NOTHING has changed.


like a few of the guys in here I ride that streach of road a fair bit & it is a nice peace of road to let your hair down as it were... not that I have any hair :whistle:

Been playing with fire or did you finally decide to get rid of the eyebrows too?


Not true. I know a rider who got caught doing 170km. Lost his licence for 6 months for speeding. Didnt get the dangerous driving. It depends on the circumstances. But then also know a cager who got done at 165km and did get the dangerous driving on top of speeding.

Well, it could be true. Just because it's supposedly standard practice doesn't mean it'll be applied 100% of the time. Also, the charge would still have to stick if you go to court. Anyway, only the KB coppers can really verify it - I do have it from a rather trustworthy source though.

[Nonbeliever]

and shorts I hope..... but please not speedos

and jandals

[AllanB]

and shorts I hope..... but please not speedos


Ah - now we get somewhere - they were possibly speedo cops - that's why they stopped.

[3umph]

Ah - now we get somewhere - they were possibly speedo cops - that's why they stopped.

mental note:....
why the hell has he got a pic of speedo cops on his PC :wacko:
next it will be the Village People :eek5:

[Pascal]

Sorry, but that is FAR too fast to be going on a public road. Go to a racetrack if you want to do speeds like that. We should NOT be condoning this sort of thing IMHO.

Thank you. No matter how good a rider somebody thinks they are, accidents happen. And I sure as fuck hope it's not one of my children that ends up dead because some irresponsible dickhead thought he's capable of playing God.


Hey, it's their licenses,lifes etc. If they wanna ride like that then it's their decision.

Until they hit somebody else. Then they took that person's decision away from them.

[nallac]

mental note:....
why the hell has he got a pic of speedo cops on his PC
next it will be the Village People

well he is a honda rider......go figure:whistle:

[3umph]

Thank you. No matter how good a rider somebody thinks they are, accidents happen. And I sure as fuck hope it's not one of my children that ends up dead because some irresponsible dickhead thought he's capable of playing God.



Until they hit somebody else. Then they took that person's decision away from them.

mmm the old God line.... we we all do that every time we get on your bike or behind the wheel...
Accidents happen at all speeds not just above the speed limit... and people die at all speeds as well...

[quickbuck]

ah..G...F.... (clue)

?
gt250r falcon?
Doesn't he have a Hyosung???

Okay, may be this ain't him.....

May be the clue has more to do with "Obtaining something" and "Fornication"?

[98tls]

Thank you. No matter how good a rider somebody thinks they are, accidents happen. And I sure as fuck hope it's not one of my children that ends up dead because some irresponsible dickhead thought he's capable of playing God. Bit like crossing the road eh,then again your probably that righteous that the thought of jaywalking makes you sick to the stomach.What the fuck has a few quick kms got to do with playing god?after many many years riding ive long since given up dissing what other people ride but in your case i will make an exception,stick with it at least i know my children will be forever safe.:beer:

[3umph]

Bit like crossing the road eh,then again your probably that righteous that the thought of jaywalking makes you sick to the stomach.What the fuck has a few quick kms got to do with playing god?after many many years riding ive long since given up dissing what other people ride but in your case i will make an exception,stick with it at least i know my children will be forever safe.:beer:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Pascal]

mmm the old God line.... we we all do that every time we get on your bike or behind the wheel...
Accidents happen at all speeds not just above the speed limit... and people die at all speeds as well...

People aren't omniscient / omnipotent / whatever it is. They cannot predict and know everything that will happen. What those fuckwits did is increase the risk of a fatal accident tremendously.

They give bikers a bad name. They risk other people's lives with their irresponsible behavior.

I can't believe I'm hearing people stick up for them. They had the CHOICE to take their bikes to the track. Places MADE for that type of fun. Not on the open, public roads.

And no 98tls, I do not jaywalk. Call that righteous if you will. But pedestrian crossings and traffic light crossings are there not only for the safety of pedestrians, but the safety of motorists as well.

Follow the rules. They're there for a reason.

[madbikeboy]

Wow, this is hotly contested and debated by the masses.

The two arguments seem to be:
1. Time and place.
2. Just not on a public road.

Fair enough.

I like motorways. Nice barriers on both sides, and sometimes not lined by cheese cutters. All the traffic is going in a similar direction. Normally the sides of the motorway are far enough from the lanes that the view of livestock about to run out is good. There are times where you get big gaps between other vehicles that gives an opportunity for adding additional velocity with enthusiasm.

And yet, the fuzz get excited when you look at the throttle, even when there's no one about.

Of course, for the record, I do exactly 1 kph less than the speed limit whenever I travel (choose that bit to be admissible in the lynching, opps, courtroom). I'm flying into Germany in a month or two, specifically so I can ride some autobahn (and maybe the 'Ring) guilt free.

But, I have this mate who sometimes opens up his bike on similar said environments, and has thus far not died. I disagree with him of course, and if I could find my biege cardigan, I'd be warmer right now.

Point is, that this is a risky past-time, more so than poker (although people do get shot over that still) or knitting (I'd be willing to stab myself instead of knitting something). Chosing appropriate places for that wheelstand, top gear action, or even daydreaming, is the key to it. I see dumb asses on cruisers pulling risky shit on the open road, with little training and too much pride. Similar concept if you expand my logic in that direction.

I have a track bike, which I ride on the track with care and respect, and I ride with care and respect on the road when using my litre GSXR. I like riding, and I like the rush. But I also like coming home (someone has to feed poocho's).

As for 211 - that's about 4th gear, and from a standing start, a GSXR1000 can find 300kph within a kilometer. "Getting shot out of a cannon beats getting squeezed out of a tube". I chose the track as the place to do it for the most part.

Now, everyone take a deep breath and chill the fuck out.

[madbikeboy]

Follow the rules. They're there for a reason.

Like the rule where it's okay to kill Jewish people, because they're Jewish (Hitler)

Or the rule that says it's okay to segregate white and black people (SA, USA until very recently in the scheme of things)

Or the rule that says I can beat my wife whenever I choose (in some Muslim nations)

Or the rule that says I have to accept that a burglar can break into my house, try hurting me or the people in the house, and I can't shot them?

Or how about the rule that means Doctors are almost impossible to prosecute for negligence.

I'd rather do 211 on the Gixer, that 110 kph in the wet on your virago.

[3umph]

Wow, this is hotly contested and debated by the masses.

The two arguments seem to be:
1. Time and place.
2. Just not on a public road.

Fair enough.

I like motorways. Nice barriers on both sides, and sometimes not lined by cheese cutters. All the traffic is going in a similar direction. Normally the sides of the motorway are far enough from the lanes that the view of livestock about to run out is good. There are times where you get big gaps between other vehicles that gives an opportunity for adding additional velocity with enthusiasm.

And yet, the fuzz get excited when you look at the throttle, even when there's no one about.

Of course, for the record, I do exactly 1 kph less than the speed limit whenever I travel (choose that bit to be admissible in the lynching, opps, courtroom). I'm flying into Germany in a month or two, specifically so I can ride some autobahn (and maybe the 'Ring) guilt free.

But, I have this mate who sometimes opens up his bike on similar said environments, and has thus far not died. I disagree with him of course, and if I could find my biege cardigan, I'd be warmer right now.

Point is, that this is a risky past-time, more so than poker (although people do get shot over that still) or knitting (I'd be willing to stab myself instead of knitting something). Chosing appropriate places for that wheelstand, top gear action, or even daydreaming, is the key to it. I see dumb asses on cruisers pulling risky shit on the open road, with little training and too much pride. Similar concept if you expand my logic in that direction.

I have a track bike, which I ride on the track with care and respect, and I ride with care and respect on the road when using my litre GSXR. I like riding, and I like the rush. But I also like coming home (someone has to feed poocho's).

As for 211 - that's about 4th gear, and from a standing start, a GSXR1000 can find 300kph within a kilometer. "Getting shot out of a cannon beats getting squeezed out of a tube". I chose the track as the place to do it for the most part.

Now, everyone take a deep breath and chill the fuck out.

yip yip yip.... good old law abiding bloke :2thumbsup :whistle:

[Creeping Death]

They give bikers a bad name.



Fuck sake!It's bullshit statements like that often quoted lil gem that give bikers a bad fucking name!:argh:

[nallac]

I've heard that those gsxr's can do 202 in third with out trying...
Of course i wouldn't do such things....esp not on a test ride....
speed kills,its bad,so bad it even kills kids,so the signs say

[Pascal]

madbikeboy, you know the context. Citing Hitler? I should claim Godwin and claim victory now.

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.

(With Playstations and sattelite TV and a whole lot better food than most of us eat ;) )

[Mikkel]

Or the rule that says I can rape my wife whenever I choose (in some Muslim nations).

Fixed, sadly.

But yes, blind observance of the rules is not the duty of free citizens in a democratic state. And it is a very important point - but a lot of people seem to be too lazy to think for themselves or to question authority.

[3umph]

speed kills,its bad,so bad it even kills kids,so the signs say

Speed does not kill.... how many people have died from going to fast????

if thats the case pilots would di as they fly faster then we ride....

SPEED DOES NOT KILL... THE SUDDEN IMPACT DOES

and that can be falling over on the grass and hitting ones head or crashing at 300kph...

[jrandom]

I should claim Godwin and claim victory now.

Citing Godwin doesn't give you victory; it just implies that rational debate has ceased.


... makes me want to fucking puke.

And you know I'll be there to hold your hair out of the way, sweetie.

Also, stock Hayabusas don't do 320kph and never did.

I'm pretty sure wire-wheel Katana 1100s do, though.

You wouldn't know about that though, aye.

[Creeping Death]

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.



You after a Nobel Peace Prize nomination or what?Lighten up!Sheesh!

[98tls]

People aren't omniscient / omnipotent / whatever it is. They cannot predict and know everything that will happen. What those fuckwits did is increase the risk of a fatal accident tremendously.

They give bikers a bad name. They risk other people's lives with their irresponsible behavior.

I can't believe I'm hearing people stick up for them. They had the CHOICE to take their bikes to the track. Places MADE for that type of fun. Not on the open, public roads.

And no 98tls, I do not jaywalk. Call that righteous if you will. But pedestrian crossings and traffic light crossings are there not only for the safety of pedestrians, but the safety of motorists as well.

Follow the rules. They're there for a reason. Sing out when your times up eh,i will jump in ya luggage therefore insuring a place on the second biggest cloud.

[nallac]

but but but thats what the signs and ads say...
do you mean they are lying to us....

[3umph]

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

bit like the anti smacking law that was passed because a previous government had a suckass deal with the tree hugging greens to back it and told there MP what way to vote and push a Law onto the county that the majority did not want and made some law abiding people criminals...

Democracy my ass....

[3umph]

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.



You after a Nobel Peace Prize nomination or what?Lighten up!Sheesh!

nah proberley leader of the Green party

[madbikeboy]

madbikeboy, you know the context. Citing Hitler? I should claim Godwin and claim victory now.

We, as a society, have agreed to a common set of rules and laws that govern our society. We agree to abide by them and continue to do so by living in this country. Don't we? And if we disagree with a rule, we can stand up, speak to our fellow Kiwis and use the powers of our democracy to change that rule.

What we do not do is take the law into our own hands, break the rules simply because we think we're above them. Those people usually end up behind bars.

(With Playstations and sattelite TV and a whole lot better food than most of us eat ;) )

I agree that the meek shall inherit the earth too. And then some bad fucker will take it off them.

Point is, common sense and shared responsibility trumps poorly constructed rules. 55 kph down Parnell road is literally homicidal, people die each year. 211 clicks in the middle of nowhere, well, you see my point.

But I disagree with one thing (this is after wasting an hour of my life at a council meeting tonight), our fellow Kiwi's are fucking apathetic, and wouldn't get up to change channels, let alone change laws.

[3umph]

but but but thats what the signs and ads say...
do you mean they are lying to us....

may be.... thats the power of advertising :2thumbsup

[PSYCHO]

I'd rather do 211 on the Gixer, that 110 kph in the wet on your virago.

I'd ratherwalk than ride a viagra

[98tls]

Citing Godwin doesn't give you victory; it just implies that rational debate has ceased.



And you know I'll be there to hold your hair out of the way, sweetie.

Also, stock Hayabusas don't do 320kph and never did.

I'm pretty sure wire-wheel Katana 1100s do, though.

You wouldn't know about that though, aye. Now ya talking,the whole 300 click thing gets interesting,plenty on here have done:zzzz:no doubt..hey its the interweb and this is a bike forum.Anyone know the equation when speeds get up there ie horsepower needed v speed achieved,read a bit of it years ago in a Bonneville article,roughly twice the hp needed v momentum?

[madbikeboy]

I've heard that those gsxr's can do 202 in third with out trying...


No idea. I've heard similar stories though. :whistle:

[madbikeboy]

Now ya talking,the whole 300 click thing gets interesting,plenty on here have done:zzzz:no doubt..hey its the interweb and this is a bike forum.Anyone know the equation when speeds get up there ie horsepower needed v speed achieved,read a bit of it years ago in a Bonneville article,roughly twice the hp needed v momentum?

A Hayabusa will do 300 real k's, the speedo reads high.

K1-k4 GSXR's will only ever do 299, sadly that's as far as the speedo goes. And since it's on the dash, it must be true, right?

Most modern litres will do near enough to 300 clicks to count.

[3umph]

A Hayabusa will do 300 real k's, the speedo reads high.

K1-k4 GSXR's will only ever do 299, sadly that's as far as the speedo goes. And since it's on the dash, it must be true, right?

Most modern litres will do near enough to 300 clicks to count.

ummm isnt that so you have heard :whistle:

[Ixion]

And so am I.

I haven't specifically directed my comments to the riders in question, rather more so, to the posters that blindly claim that doing 200kph+ is perfectly safe.

Well 200kph is certainly not perfectly safe. But then, nor is 20kph. Safety , with all due respect to the begowned gentleman, is not boolean, it is relative. Almost nothing in life and certainly very little on two wheels, is ever perfectly safe. Everytime a rider starts his machine, Death climbs on the pillion. Safety is a continuum , which must be constantly assessed for all the given circumstances, and brought into bounds acceptable both to the rider and to society. Sometimes opinion as to both the bounds and whether a given speed or behaviour falls within them will be debatable.

Since I do not know the circumstances of the case cited I cannot offer any opinion as to its safety. Other than to comment that there will be many more circumstances where 20kph is acceptably safe than there will be where 200 kph is acceptably safe. But, 200 kph is not really all that fast. And there are certainly roads in NZ where , on a suitable machine, I would think that 200kph was acceptably within my personal bounds of safety. Though of course I never actually speed. Speed kills. This I know, because the gubbermint tells me so.

[_STAIN_]

To most of the posters here, who must surly own GN's and SR's .....or live under a rock.

Many modern sport bikes are capable of 160kpm "before" redline and power wheelie in 3rd gear.
From 100 to 200 is less than 2 slow blinks and can be frequently achieved on "clear" short straights,
where there is no vehicle in sight. (reads mufti)
The buyer of a sport bikes does it purely to bring 100kph agony to his wrists.

[madbikeboy]

ummm isnt that so you have heard :whistle:

I have heard, this one guy, put a GPS unit in his GSXR1000, and with taller gearing and some sensible mods, he saw 307 kph with the GPS unit. I'd trust that more than pub talk.

[jrandom]

Now ya talking,the whole 300 click thing gets interesting,plenty on here have done:zzzz:no doubt..hey its the interweb and this is a bike forum.

300 has been exceeded a few times at the Cliffhanger flying quarter mile, I think, almost exclusively by probably-not-stock Hayabusas (I have a feeling an R1 managed it once).

A mostly-stock 2004 Hayabusa, ridden by our very own kiwifruit, did 281 last year.

Nobody's done 320 yet, though.

[Big Dave]

I did 400 on my Buell.

[3umph]

I did 400 on my Buell.

up hill and into a head wind and even was 2 up so I heard:whistle:

[Viscount Montgomery]

Comments like "If you want to speed, then go to the racetrack" are such a tired predictably repeated crock of shit. Who the fuck's got the time, money and inclination to ride fucken racetracks? WTF do you get? Two fucken outings a fucken year or some shit? The hand-wringers and panty-pissers need to join the real world. If you're riding empty back roads then 211K is highly likely fuck-all and perfectly fucken safe. But if these brainless dodos got busted at 211K on the main fucken highway amongst traffic, then tough shit.

And if it was fucktard squids in one-piece leathers and arai helmets doing their feverish wank wank wank wank posturing bullshit, then throw the fucken book at them too. If I had my way, arsehole squids would have their bikes confiscated and crushed whilst being strung up and given a fucking good long hard whipping. Getting these fuckers crying and pissing blood in apology is the only sensible way

[98tls]

A Hayabusa will do 300 real k's, the speedo reads high.

K1-k4 GSXR's will only ever do 299, sadly that's as far as the speedo goes. And since it's on the dash, it must be true, right?

Most modern litres will do near enough to 300 clicks to count. Will and has are as you know are vastly different,and again as you say i wouldnt trust oem speedos on anything.

[98tls]

300 has been exceeded a few times at the Cliffhanger flying quarter mile, I think, almost exclusively by probably-not-stock Hayabusas (I have a feeling an R1 managed it once).

A mostly-stock 2004 Hayabusa, ridden by our very own kiwifruit, did 281 last year.

Nobody's done 320 yet, though.
Nice.The 300 click mark is certainly an event i would say.Not one ive attended and not to sure i would go there,not these days anyway.The resistance V output thing is quite interesting,did a search but cant find it.

[jrandom]

Who the fuck's got the time, money and inclination to ride fucken racetracks?

Fucken oath.


Two fucken outings a fucken year or some shit?

Two? Luxury.


And if it was fucktard squids in one-piece leathers and arai helmets...

Y'know, I saw this guy in one-piece leathers once, with a personalised plate that said '5QUID', even. Presumably just in case nobody could work it out from watching his riding.

But he was wearing a Shoei, so it was all right.

[Blackshear]

HOW DID THIS GET SO MANY REPLIES ALREADY!
This thread is only 8 hours old.
HOW!!!

And to think all this commotion over me and my mate :woohoo:

[Blackshear]

I saw this guy in one-piece leathers once, with a personalised plate that said '5QUID'

But he was wearing a Shoei, so it was all right.
I have seen this number plate, before.
IRL or a picture from NZ, I HAVE seen it!

WHO WHO WHO?

[jrandom]

The resistance V output thing is quite interesting,did a search but cant find it.

Your Wikipedia-fu is weak!

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_equation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_resistance.

The power required to overcome the aerodynamic drag is given by:

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/d/6/1d6ff8f88450295e8a235a54d626ea78.png"/>

Note that the power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph (160 km/h) requires 80 hp (60 kW). With a doubling of speed the drag (force) quadruples per the formula. Exerting four times the force over a fixed distance produces four times as much work. At twice the speed the work (resulting in displacement over a fixed distance) is done twice as fast. Since power is the rate of doing work, four times the work done in half the time requires eight times the power.

[98tls]

Your Wikipedia-fu is weak!

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_equation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_resistance.

The power required to overcome the aerodynamic drag is given by:

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/d/6/1d6ff8f88450295e8a235a54d626ea78.png"/>

Note that the power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph (160 km/h) requires 80 hp (60 kW). With a doubling of speed the drag (force) quadruples per the formula. Exerting four times the force over a fixed distance produces four times as much work. At twice the speed the work (resulting in displacement over a fixed distance) is done twice as fast. Since power is the rate of doing work, four times the work done in half the time requires eight times the power. Yep,along those lines indeed.:2thumbsup

[Brett]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10566972

Well, come on then, was it someone on here? had you put the front wheel down yet? Hope the coffee made up for the trouble!

[Maha]

Have you just woken up???

[3umph]

mmm looks like it....

discussion here lol

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97300

[98tls]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10566972

Well, come on then, was it someone on here? had you put the front wheel down yet? Hope the coffee made up for the trouble! :beer:Bit late mate,they have already been sent to interweb hell,Jesus rode a VL250.......no shit.

[3umph]

:beer:Bit late mate,they have already been sent to interweb hell,Jesus rode a VL250.......no shit.

i thought it was a varago

[Brett]

LOL...well I do live under a rock sometimes.

[3umph]

LOL...well I do live under a rock sometimes.

lol.... there are only a few pages of posts :whistle:

[Brett]

to all of the idiots condoning this thread and saying it is ok to ride at this speed on public roads thank for giving the powers that be proof that they need to take a good look at people on bikes.

you are probably the same people that put up threads saying you are going to race everyone at trackdays putting our insurances at risk as well.

you guys are legends in your own underpants. why dont you keep your opinions on being ok to speed on public roads in there.

good work dickheads

But more importantly...can YOU wheelie?:whistle:

[Brett]

Remind me, how many people have died playing bullrush?

Not enough.

[Creeping Death]

Comments like "If you want to speed, then go to the racetrack" are such a tired predictably repeated crock of shit. Who the fuck's got the time, money and inclination to ride fucken racetracks? WTF do you get? Two fucken outings a fucken year or some shit? The hand-wringers and panty-pissers need to join the real world. If you're riding empty back roads then 211K is highly likely fuck-all and perfectly fucken safe. But if these brainless dodos got busted at 211K on the main fucken highway amongst traffic, then tough shit.

And if it was fucktard squids in one-piece leathers and arai helmets doing their feverish wank wank wank wank posturing bullshit, then throw the fucken book at them too. If I had my way, arsehole squids would have their bikes confiscated and crushed whilst being strung up and given a fucking good long hard whipping. Getting these fuckers crying and pissing blood in apology is the only sensible way

Bling for you!Must be reading my mind!

Bling!

[Brett]

Shit, i just read 14 pages of PIFFLE.
A brief summary fo those who have just joined us, like myself:

Katman & our friend Doug over there in the corner - anything over 100KPH is directly from the devil, death to the infidels of law. Laws are made for our well being.

madbikeboy and few few other like minded peoplez - 211KPH in the right area at the right time is hardly something to wake the Prime minister up about.

and basically, it is this banter backwards and forwards to varying degrees.

[Blackshear]

Shit, i just read 14 pages of PIFFLE.
A brief summary fo those who have just joined us, like myself:

Katman & our friend Doug over there in the corner - anything over 100KPH is directly from the devil, death to the infidels of law. Laws are made for our well being.

madbikeboy and few few other like minded peoplez - 211KPH in the right area at the right time is hardly something to wake the Prime minister up about.

and basically, it is this banter backwards and forwards to varying degrees.

Better ride at an INDICATED 95k's on the open road, just in case that devil wind whips you up to 101 from behind.
Goodbye for you.

Ride safe guys!

[98tls]

Bling for you!Must be reading my mind!

Bling! Do tell then.

[avgas]

Under current laws / fines, is there any difference between doing 141kph and 211kph?
hmmm using LTSA statistic that you are twice as likely to kill someone 5kph faster than usual. And chuck norris law of awesome. Lets see 211-141 = 70 / 4 = 17.5 x 200% = There is an increased chance of 3500% that you will kill some at 211kph than you will at 141kph.
Don't you love it how statistic never should be applied to the real world

[Creeping Death]

Do tell then.

Nah,I just liked his use of the word "fucken" and "squid" throughout that post.:cool:

[Creeping Death]

Do tell then.

Nah,I just liked his use of "fucken" and "squid" throughout his post!:cool:

[Creeping Death]

Fukkit!I'm a KB fucken squid!:wacko:

[Brett]

Better ride at an INDICATED 95k's on the open road, just in case that devil wind whips you up to 101 from behind.
Goodbye for you.

Ride safe guys!

Damn devil winds.

[swbarnett]

No one was harmed, ergo it was safe.
Being safe means noone gets harmed. The reverse does not automatically follow. In the same way that someone being harmed does not imply that the actions that led to it were dangerous.


why do people insist that a mere velocity is dangerous? it is the sudden shedding of velocity (say by hitting a dangerously parked pleece vehicle) that is dangerous, not the mere fact of travelling at a certain rate. :Pokey:
Indeed, but you will always get those that insist that you can't get the sudden stop if you're not moving in the first place. To them I ask, shall we give light a speeding ticket? Surely 1,080,000,000kph must be dangerous?

[3umph]

this topic went from 200 to zilch pretty quick after a good run...

did the PC cops get to it....:whistle:

[Eddieb]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2340007/Speeding-bikies-getting-coffee

Speeding bikies 'getting coffee'

Motorcyclists caught doing over 200kmh told police they were on their way to Kaikoura "for a coffee" when they were stopped.

The pair were caught going 211kmh on State Highway 1, between Parnassus and Hundalee, during Operation Tahi, which was targeting high-risk behaviour on the South Island's main road, Canterbury road policing acting manager Neville Hyland said.

The motorcyclists had their licences suspended for 28 days and would appear in court at a later date , Mr Hyland said.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," he said.

There were plenty of clubs with access to race tracks for people who wanted to travel at these speeds, he said.

During the operation in the first week of April, police issued 448 tickets, which added to the 355 tickets issued during the same operation in March, Mr Hyland said.

[rosie631]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2340007/Speeding-bikies-getting-coffee

Speeding bikies 'getting coffee'

Motorcyclists caught doing over 200kmh told police they were on their way to Kaikoura "for a coffee" when they were stopped.

The pair were caught going 211kmh on State Highway 1, between Parnassus and Hundalee, during Operation Tahi, which was targeting high-risk behaviour on the South Island's main road, Canterbury road policing acting manager Neville Hyland said.

The motorcyclists had their licences suspended for 28 days and would appear in court at a later date , Mr Hyland said.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," he said.

There were plenty of clubs with access to race tracks for people who wanted to travel at these speeds, he said.

During the operation in the first week of April, police issued 448 tickets, which added to the 355 tickets issued during the same operation in March, Mr Hyland said.

Not guilty :innocent: Not sure, if my bike will even do that speed

[marty]

geez mate have you been living under a rock?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97300&highlight=211

[Okey Dokey]

I can stop from 60Km/h in less than 2 meters.

Where have I heard that before.... :whistle:

[pritch]

shit you must be realy old then

No, he's just a boy. :devil2:

[DougieNZ]

SPEED DOES NOT KILL... THE SUDDEN IMPACT DOES..

Unbelieveable...

Speed affects the time you have to avoid the impact. It also affects the distance you travel before you react. NO QUESTION. Therefore SPEED DOES KILL!

I have read the many pages of debate. :girlfight:I still remain firm in the view that 211km/h is not a speed we should condone people travelling at.

Nor should we condone the running from the police. If you travel at that speed and get caught - man(or woman) up and take the consequences :Police:. :spanking:

If you cant afford to use the racetrack, then don't travel at 200km/h!

Don't get me wrong. I have exceeded the speed limit myself. But when I do so, I understand that I am potentially putting myself and/or other users at risk. I also understand that my reaction distance will be affected.

But, sorry, 211km/h on a main public highway is absolutely taking the piss.

[bounce]

so what sort of fine/licence disqualification can these guys expect? I'm ignorant as to how the court appearance thing works.

[3umph]

Unbelieveable...

Speed affects the time you have to avoid the impact. It also affects the distance you travel before you react. NO QUESTION. Therefore SPEED DOES KILL!

Speed it self does not kill.... if it did then there would not be as many people around.... yeah you are probably more likely to have come off not to good if something happen... in which things happen quicker at speed

so what speed actually kills???? is it 110kph or 128kph or is it 212kph

I still say its the impact that kills... yes the impact is greater as the speed rises but how many people have walked away from a horrendous fast crash with out a mark and others are killed with fuck all damage done at slower speeds???

If speed kills then I sould of been dead 20+ years ago.....

I have read the many pages of debate. :girlfight:I still remain firm in the view that 211km/h is not a speed we should condone people travelling at.
who said we/they condone the speed that they were traveling at???
it happens and it will keep happening...
I think that those speeds would be hit more then a lot of people would like to think and admitt to on the open roads of NZ...



Nor should we condone the running from the police. If you travel at that speed and get caught - man(or woman) up and take the consequences :Police:. :spanking:
want to do the crime then you have to suffer the consequences... end of story... good on the pair for stopping :2thumbsup



If you cant afford to use the racetrack, then don't travel at 200km/h!

ok I'll only stick to 199kph then... I suggest all others do as well


Don't get me wrong. I have exceeded the speed limit myself. But when I do so, I understand that I am potentially putting myself and/or other users at risk. I also understand that my reaction distance will be affected.
and I'd say just about everyone else does as well... I sure as well know I do and over the years I have done some fairly good fast times from town to town travel around the south island on bikes and in cages... so far the last time I look that I was not dead...


But, sorry, 211km/h on a main public highway is absolutely taking the piss.
only because they got caught... as said before it would probably be amazing how many times the magic 200kph mark is broken...

Fuck it I need a new bike now.... 300kph sounds a better number now

[jafar]

so what sort of fine/licence disqualification can these guys expect? I'm ignorant as to how the court appearance thing works.

Ballpark figure of 6 months disqualification with a 28 days stand down effective from the time they are stopped on the side of the road.
Bike(s) impounded for 28 days (about $400.00 in storage fees)
+ they have to hope the judge had a blowjob the night before otherwise the fines will be over the top. Fines seem to vary somewhat but $1,000.00 would be close. If they have previous convictions then the fines may be more.

When they do get their licence's back they will be virtually uninsurable for several years to come. No insurance on a bike/car = no hire purchase deals.:eek5:

[3umph]

so what sort of fine/licence disqualification can these guys expect? I'm ignorant as to how the court appearance thing works.

I'd say it depends on the Judge on the day....

[Ixion]

Don't get me wrong. I have exceeded the speed limit myself. .

You hard case bad-ass rebel you. :zzzz:

[smoky]

And if you take an innocent life at the same time, I'll call you a cocksucker at your funeral.

Why would you be at my funeral?
And you don't speed at all?
Or make mistakes on your bike (or car) that has put people at risk?

You realise your over pretentious bullshit stance makes you stand out as a hypocrite

Anything can go wrong on the road at 80klm/hr, 110klm/hr, 120klm/hr and you take an innocent life. Do 80klm/hr in town and your more likely to hurt someone else if you come off, do 50klm/hr in rush hour traffic lane splitting and hit a pedestrian!

Riding a bike is exposing yourself to more risk, but being selective with when & where you use speed can reduce that risk somewhat

[Leyton]

15:03 16/04/2009 - stuff.co.nz

Motorcyclists caught doing over 200kmh told police they were on their way to Kaikoura "for a coffee" when they were stopped.

The pair were caught going 211kmh on State Highway 1, between Parnassus and Hundalee, during Operation Tahi, which was targeting high-risk behaviour on the South Island's main road, Canterbury road policing acting manager Neville Hyland said.

The motorcyclists had their licences suspended for 28 days and would appear in court at a later date , Mr Hyland said.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," he said.

There were plenty of clubs with access to race tracks for people who wanted to travel at these speeds, he said.

During the operation in the first week of April, police issued 448 tickets, which added to the 355 tickets issued during the same operation in March, Mr Hyland said.

NZPA


.. I can think of no better excuse myself :) COFFEEE COFFEEEEEE

[3umph]

there is a wee bit of discussion about it here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97300

[Grahameeboy]

15:03 16/04/2009 - stuff.co.nz

Motorcyclists caught doing over 200kmh told police they were on their way to Kaikoura "for a coffee" when they were stopped.

The pair were caught going 211kmh on State Highway 1, between Parnassus and Hundalee, during Operation Tahi, which was targeting high-risk behaviour on the South Island's main road, Canterbury road policing acting manager Neville Hyland said.

The motorcyclists had their licences suspended for 28 days and would appear in court at a later date , Mr Hyland said.

"Motorcyclists are some of the most vulnerable road users in New Zealand and are over-represented in crash statistics," he said.

There were plenty of clubs with access to race tracks for people who wanted to travel at these speeds, he said.

During the operation in the first week of April, police issued 448 tickets, which added to the 355 tickets issued during the same operation in March, Mr Hyland said.

NZPA


.. I can think of no better excuse myself :) COFFEEE COFFEEEEEE

Imagine how fast they would have gone if they had had a coffee....

[3umph]

Imagine how fast they would have gone if they had had a coffee....

should of told the cop they were just going to get him some donuts...

would of got off with a warning :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Leyton]

hehe donuts could have worked :)

Anyways I better get to work, ie... Trying to get into my office building on Tristram street...

Might take my tv aerial and watch the races :) But pfft cars

[Grahameeboy]

I knew that was coming.

Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that doing 211km/h on a public highway is "safe".

Basic science says that reaction distance is severely increased at these speeds.

Lets put a scenario. Person in Mini pulls out of a side road in a 100km/h area after looking right to see whether the way is clear. Dickhead motorcyclist comes round the corner at 200km/h and hits the Mini and kills both himself and the driver of the Mini. At 100km/h he would have easily been available to slow down and/or avoid the incident.

Now a test - if your family member was driving the mini... what would your thoughts be?

Sorry, but 211km/h is for the racetrack...

And before the other naysayers chip in... yes I am assuming that they are guilty....

I am 46, have a Daughter, had one accident in 1985 when hit by hit and run and was hit in the rear the other week...I have exceeded 200kph...like last Sunday..just for a short burst...I am not an idiot...it was safe because it was a straight road...no cars, no houses...I did not endanger anyone...I have done 54,000k's since April 2005 and was hit in the rear at 0mph the other week

At worse I am a safe dick head...

[Mikkel]

But I disagree with one thing (this is after wasting an hour of my life at a council meeting tonight), our fellow Kiwi's are fucking apathetic, and wouldn't get up to change channels, let alone change laws.

Considering you've got umpteen channels of utter shite to choose from there's hardly a surprise there?

Maybe that's how they do it. Broadcast profoundly vacuous programs on numerous channels 24/7 just to teach us that even if we try to change anything it'll just be the same shit with a different label?


Now ya talking,the whole 300 click thing gets interesting,plenty on here have done:zzzz:no doubt..hey its the interweb and this is a bike forum.Anyone know the equation when speeds get up there ie horsepower needed v speed achieved,read a bit of it years ago in a Bonneville article,roughly twice the hp needed v momentum?

Streamlining is the way to go - Burt Munro would have had ~200 hps at the wheel on his old Indian, still broke the 300 km/h barrier. At those speeds aerodynamics are very important, an unstable design will start to wobble or tear itself to pieces.

But all other things equal, what jrandom said is correct. Twice as fast will need 8 times as much power.


Ballpark figure of 6 months disqualification with a 28 days stand down effective from the time they are stopped on the side of the road.
Bike(s) impounded for 28 days (about $400.00 in storage fees)
+ they have to hope the judge had a blowjob the night before otherwise the fines will be over the top. Fines seem to vary somewhat but $1,000.00 would be close. If they have previous convictions then the fines may be more.

That's a fucking bargain! You should see the fines they throw around elsewhere - e.g. a 3 months salary fine.

Don't think they can impound their vehicles though. Only breach of boyracer statutes and driving while disqualified will see your vehicle impounded.

[HenryDorsetCase]

leaving aside the question of whether this particular speed in these circumstances was safe or not, (my view being that it was, others, not so much) the thing that shits me about this is the blind belief that an arbitrarily picked velocity is somehow "Safe" and yet a velocity 2% more than that is by definition unsafe: i.e. 99 kph is "safe" but 101 kph is "not safe". That just isnt true: what is "safe" is up to the rider or driver, and depends on a lot of factors: how they feel, whether they had coffee, is it raining, is the road flat and wide, is there other traffic around etc etc etc.

The abandonment of personal responsibility is, I think, what I am getting at.

My long held view is that there should not be any arbitrary speed limit anywhere: there are already enough mechanisms for determining whether particular conduct in particular circumstances is careless, reckless or dangerous, and appropriate penalties if after due investigation, it is found that the person has not met those standards, in those circumstances.

But of course to corrupt politicians (and all politicians are corrupt because they all have a vested interest: they need to be popular enough to be elected again so they can get yet another trotter in the trough) the lie that"speed kills" is an easy sell, coupled with a lazy and corrupt media who buy into it.

So, I will continue to decide how fast I want to go* in any given set of circumstances, because that is the morally correct thing to do.

Bring on the flame war.





*remember what I ride on the street... its happiest at 100 to 120 kph. but it might have been north of 160 a few times.



oh, and people going on about "if you want to do 200k go to the racetrack"

Absolute speed is irrelevant on a racetrack, and if you've ever done a trackday they advise you to blank off your speedo because its distracting. Relative speed (i.e. am I quicker than my mate) is all that matters. so 60, 80, 180 or 280 doesnt matter there. Any given velocity is simply a byproduct of being at the racetrack.

Meh. might go to kaikoura for lunch. lets see, its about 200k away, so just over an hour. That works.

[AllanB]

Note that the power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag, but that same car at 100 mph (160 km/h) requires 80 hp (60 kW). With a doubling of speed the drag (force) quadruples per the formula. Exerting four times the force over a fixed distance produces four times as much work. At twice the speed the work (resulting in displacement over a fixed distance) is done twice as fast. Since power is the rate of doing work, four times the work done in half the time requires eight times the power.[/I]


WTF - then how come I can get 344 out of my 108hp Hornet?
:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

I was after 350+ and thought that doing it naked covered in Vaseline would help the friction (Honda riders always have a tub of vaseline handy...), however it just attracted a lot of bugs that increased my surface area, thus slowing me down to 344 :crybaby:

Pictures soon.......

[3umph]

those buggs will do it every time :crazy:

[PrincessBandit]

Anything can go wrong on the road at 80klm/hr, 110klm/hr, 120klm/hr and you take an innocent life. Do 80klm/hr in town and your more likely to hurt someone else if you come off, do 50klm/hr in rush hour traffic lane splitting and hit a pedestrian!

Riding a bike is exposing yourself to more risk, but being selective with when & where you use speed can reduce that risk somewhat

True, but when you only put yourself at risk (minimised or otherwise) no-one really gives a shit, except the people who love you and don't want you to die foolishly before your time.

When there are other lives at stake - the unsuspecting driver coming from the side street, the other motorcyclist further up round the bend in the road who suddenly is faced with a fuckwit who has momentarily lost control of his line and is now sharing a collision course with him etc etc - who has the right to say "I'm allowed to ride as fast as i like and damn everyone else who tut tuts me". The problem arises when we think there's no one else or any potential danger in our path but it can only be seen at the last moment, then the shit hits the fan, and probably your undies.

Sure, there are lots of long long stretches of road where you can see for kilometres ahead where "excessive" speeds might be considered safe (as there are no other visible vehicles in sight to the horizon). However you can hardly cry foul if there happened to be a friendly little speed camera along the way which records your moment of light speed. The law might be an ass but it's still the law.

And I quite agree, that even fatalities can still occur at much lower speeds. But anyone who speeds knows that they have bugger all justification when the unthinkable occurs and they have to face their victims loved ones.

[Murray]

My long held view is that there should not be any arbitrary speed limit anywhere: there are already enough mechanisms for determining whether particular conduct in particular circumstances is careless, reckless or dangerous, and appropriate penalties if after due investigation, it is found that the person has not met those standards, in those circumstances.

So the weather is beautiful the road is good I can do 130 kph past the school gates at 3 pm because there's no traffic. Who decides whether the conduct in this partcular circumstance is careless, reckless or dangerous???

All down to personal interpretation???

How do you set standards for conduct on the roads, in particular circumstances?? the list goes on, the list goes on, the list goes on, the courts go on, the courts go on

[PrincessBandit]

True, but when you only put yourself at risk (minimised or otherwise) no-one really gives a shit, except the people who love you and don't want you to die foolishly before your time.



Even so, putting only yourself at risk unnecessarily (which is really more the point you are driving at) still is no defense when having your day in court:

"Yes, your honour, I was speeding but there wasn't any risk to anyone else..." Somehow I think they'd only be interested in the first six words of that sentence.

[jafar]

That's a fucking bargain! You should see the fines they throw around elsewhere - e.g. a 3 months salary fine.

Don't think they can impound their vehicles though. Only breach of boyracer statutes and driving while disqualified will see your vehicle impounded.

I'm told that any speed over 40 km above the limit is an instant 28 day suspension of your licence + 28 days in the vehicle impound.
40k over IS a breach of the boy racer laws, thats life in helengrad :argh:
I think you actually get less for DIC than for excessive speed.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So the weather is beautiful the road is good I can do 130 kph past the school gates at 3 pm because there's no traffic. Who decides whether the conduct in this partcular circumstance is careless, reckless or dangerous???

All down to personal interpretation???

How do you set standards for conduct on the roads, in particular circumstances?? the list goes on, the list goes on, the list goes on, the courts go on, the courts go on

No. I was hinting that the po po would issue you a ticket for either careless, reckless or dangerous driving, then the state sanctioned arbiter of whether or not citizens had contravened the Lor would decide. We already pay judges and own court buildings and whatnot. All these mandatory penalties do is obscure the process, (in the name of efficiency and safety) and derogate from citizens rights. In this case to an independent assessment of the conduct in the circumstances, by an impartial and experienced arbiter.

I dont see any problem witht hat scenario at all.

[Eddieb]

geez mate have you been living under a rock?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97300&highlight=211

Nah, I just don't often venture out of one section into the masses of the great unwashed, too many wankers with opinions.

I did search first though, honest injun.

[madbikeboy]

WTF - then how come I can get 344 out of my 108hp Hornet?
:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

I was after 350+ and thought that doing it naked covered in Vaseline would help the friction (Honda riders always have a tub of vaseline handy...), however it just attracted a lot of bugs that increased my surface area, thus slowing me down to 344 :crybaby:

Pictures soon.......

You dirty naked fucker, you'd go faster if you could stop your dick from dragging like an anchor. :oi-grr: