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Big Dave
17th April 2009, 14:38
If I ride 100km the collection of bugs is quite substantial.
So If I have presented a frontal area of say .75sq m? through 100 linear km.
How big a fly swatter would that equal?
Subike
17th April 2009, 14:47
a friggin big fucker
so while covering that 100k, how many times did you rear wheel revolve,
and then work out from that how many meters your pistons traveled up and down inside their bores.
MisterD
17th April 2009, 14:47
Bored are we?
Same here, how long is your swatter and forearm combined? First you need to work out how far you move a standard fly swatter through the air...
smoky
17th April 2009, 14:48
So If I have presented a frontal area of say .75sq m? through 100 linear km.
How big a fly swatter would that equal?
About 14'sq per meter travelled, into the wind
about 11'sq per meter travelled, against the wind
or 10'sq per meter travelled windward
actually you would need to know the average temperature and amount of daylight to have an accurate calculation
What I was wondering is; why are there always more bugs going thru Huntley?
vifferman
17th April 2009, 14:50
Assuming when you swat flies with a flyswat (~0.01 square metres), you move your arm about 0.5m, then using your bike (0.75 square metres) as a swatter over 100km, represents 200,000 x 0.75 = 150,000 times the swatting. Or a flyswat of 75,000 square metres.
:eek5:
Maha
17th April 2009, 14:53
I am thinking, to a fly, it would to be about.....100sqm, in fly terms.
Edit: thats right, they have hundreds of eyes eh?....make that 100sq kms
bungbung
17th April 2009, 14:55
If a regular swat is 100 x 150 (0.015m2), and is swatted over 150deg using your forearm mostly, perhaps the swat head travels 2.5m per swat.
Your bike converted to swats:
100km / 2.5m = 40,000 swats.
Bike frontal/regular swat = 0.75/0.015 = 50x area.
50 x 40,000 = 2,000,000 swats
0.015m2 x 2000000 = Single swat 30,000m2 sized
bungbung
17th April 2009, 14:56
you move your arm about 0.5m
Swat head moves further
vifferman
17th April 2009, 14:58
Swat head moves further
Not when I do it - economy of motion. :yes:
Also means the fly has less time to react to an approaching hazard.
BTW - apparently, they have difficulty responding to hazards approaching from two directions at once, hence the "Masai Clap". If you hold your hands equidistant from a fly parked on a surface, and above and slightly behind it, and clap, they will go, "Uh-oh - information overload!" and take off in 'default mode', which is straight up, and slightly backwards, to get splattered by your clapping hands. (If your hands are cupped, you can catch them instead).
When using a flyswat on a stationary fly, always aim just slightly behind them, because they jump backwards as they take off.
Big Dave
17th April 2009, 14:58
Bored are we?
Nah - I'm dicking around on the interweeb.
ManDownUnder
17th April 2009, 14:59
Assuming when you swat flies with a flyswat (~0.01 square metres), you move your arm about 0.5m, then using your bike (0.75 square metres) as a swatter over 100km, represents 200,000 x 0.75 = 150,000 times the swatting. Or a flyswat of 75,000 square metres.
:eek5:
Or to paraphrase, a square fly swat 273.8m per side
Usarka
17th April 2009, 15:00
About this big.
http://media.redclaycms.com/sites/197/images/flyswat.jpg
Pwalo
17th April 2009, 15:00
Apparently that's what the main purpose of the IOM TT is. Must kill tousands of the things each year.
Usarka
17th April 2009, 15:03
Big Dave can you ride around in my kitchen, fuckin flys everywhere today cause I'm cooking a casserole.
vifferman
17th April 2009, 15:06
Big Dave can you ride around in my kitchen, fuckin flys everywhere today cause I'm cooking a casserole.
Must be pretty stinky then.
I notice you have "ARSE BISCUIT" in your signature line - is it an arse biscuit casserole? :crazy:
Maha
17th April 2009, 15:06
Big Dave can you ride around in my kitchen, fuckin flys everywhere today cause I'm cooking a casserole.
Turn a fan on! they fucken hate that....:2thumbsup
Usarka
17th April 2009, 15:09
Must be pretty stinky then.
I notice you have "ARSE BISCUIT" in your signature line - is it an arse biscuit casserole? :crazy:
T'would explain the flies. Actually the beef on top has gone crusty and is sticking to the side. You might be onto something - moral don't cook drunk. :sherlock:
Big Dave
17th April 2009, 15:17
<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/david_cohen_design/.Pictures/misc3/swat.jpg">
gijoe1313
17th April 2009, 15:19
I think Big Dave needs to stop bugging us over this! I dunno if any of the ideas will fly, but I think its all part of his web of nefarious ways to ensnare hapless bikers.
Big Dave
17th April 2009, 15:31
About 14'sq per meter travelled, into the wind
about 11'sq per meter travelled, against the wind
or 10'sq per meter travelled windward
actually you would need to know the average temperature and amount of daylight to have an accurate calculation
What I was wondering is; why are there always more bugs going thru Huntley?
The swamps between there and Ohiniwai?
Mainland is generally buggier.
Big Dave
17th April 2009, 15:41
I think Big Dave needs to stop bugging us over this! I dunno if any of the ideas will fly, but I think its all part of his web of nefarious ways to ensnare hapless bikers.
Quoth the universal Australian idiom:
No flies on you Joe.
But you can see where they have been.
:-P
smoky
17th April 2009, 16:22
Turn a fan on! they fucken hate that....:2thumbsup
Well it apparently deflects rain - should deflect a few bugs too shouldn't it?
http://www.nickygrist.com/turbo-rain-visor-142-p.asp
Swoop
17th April 2009, 17:01
The question remains: "If I spray my helmet with flyspray, will it kill more bugs?"...
Research funding, anyone?
Murray
17th April 2009, 17:16
If I ride 100km the collection of bugs is quite substantial.
So If I have presented a frontal area of say .75sq m? through 100 linear km.
How big a fly swatter would that equal?
The size of the fly swatter would still be "say .75sq m"
The question is how many flies would it kill through a 100 linear km
martybabe
17th April 2009, 18:09
Despite you being a person of considerable bulkitudiness, I fail to see how you collected any bugs at all, given that me and the GSX1400 killed every flying insect in the world yesterday evening, I counted 3 million and 17 on my visor alone.
I have calculated the answer to your question using a slide rule and a bag of marshmallows, without wanting to appear to be a girly swat, the answer is three and a half chickens! I'm right, you know it ;) What do I win please mister.
Forest
19th April 2009, 00:04
What I was wondering is; why are there always more bugs going thru Huntley?
Ask any farmer and they'll tell you the answer.
Which is to say ... bugs are strongly attracted to shit!
Laxi
19th April 2009, 01:53
About 14'sq per meter travelled, into the wind
about 11'sq per meter travelled, against the wind
or 10'sq per meter travelled windward
actually you would need to know the average temperature and amount of daylight to have an accurate calculation
What I was wondering is; why are there always more bugs going thru Huntley?
that depends on if its a head wind or a tail wind
Big Dave can you ride around in my kitchen, fuckin flys everywhere today cause I'm cooking a casserole.
wtf is in that casserole?:lol:
Indiana_Jones
19th April 2009, 13:57
Have you got USD forks?
If not, get some. You'll kill more flies that way.
Also I can stop in 2m
-Indy
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