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Mrs Busa Pete
18th April 2009, 07:06
I think it sucks big time.



Motorcyclist dies in Taranaki

Taranaki police are keen to speak with a motorcyclist they say left the scene of an accident in which another motorcyclist he was riding with died.

A 28-year-old was killed last night when his bike left the road near Okato and skidded into a stream. Ambulance staff were called but the man died soon after they arrived.

The victim's next of kin have yet to be contacted.

MotoKuzzi
18th April 2009, 07:31
If that's the way it happened I'm with you.

nivram
18th April 2009, 07:55
Thats shocking what an arse.

awayatc
18th April 2009, 08:06
doesn't seem to be the sort of friend I like to ride with.....

scumdog
18th April 2009, 08:07
A moron few???

Mom
18th April 2009, 08:09
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10567258

What on earth would possess you to leave a mate in that situation.

Conquiztador
18th April 2009, 08:10
I did read it as the guy was there when the ambulance came, but left before police arrived.

cs363
18th April 2009, 08:13
Yeah, saw that and had similar thoughts to those posted, but upon re-reading the report I am with Conquiztador on how it seems to have gone down. Will wait for further reports with much interest.

SixPackBack
18th April 2009, 08:16
Prolly tryin' to save his ass.........DUI, excessive speed, caused the accident??......no excuse tho' he should have stayed!

rosie631
18th April 2009, 08:37
I did read it as the guy was there when the ambulance came, but left before police arrived.

Might have been that way. Must have had a reason he wanted to avoid the police. Still fucking rude tho leaving his mate like that, whatever the reason.

Headbanger
18th April 2009, 08:59
Hey, if he stopped for him, and left after professional help arrived then he done the right thing 100 percent.

Murray
18th April 2009, 09:02
To little information to make any assumptions!!

Leave it alone until the facts come out!!

mdnzz
18th April 2009, 09:04
Maybe he was in shock, could have been he's just seen his best mate die.

Shock causes people to do some strange things, we don't know if anyone told him to go an sit down/ go home or whatever.

While I agree that you never leave a fallen mate, once the pro's are there they always tell you to give them space and let them do their job, there is nothing more you can do.


Maybe thats how he felt....nothing more to do.....go home...mate dead.....melt down.........



Shezze I'm hate to lose somebody only to have a bunch of people tear me apart even further when they know nothing of the situation, only the media side and well we know they only print the exact truth now don't we.

But this is the internet and its always easier to attack anything from behind the screen.

mujambee
18th April 2009, 09:21
Police said the victim was found shortly after the incident


A second motorcyclist, who was with the victim at the time of the accident,

May have been a passer-by who just saw the accident and stopped. There is nothing there that says those two where riding together.

EJT
18th April 2009, 09:55
"They also want to hear from anyone who may have been passed by one or more motorcyclists north bound on or near Wiremu Road before midnight"

From the Herald article. Reading between the lines it is not certain whether they were riding together and they may suspect speed...but just an guess.

RIP fellow rider.

jaymzw
18th April 2009, 10:30
The victim's next of kin have yet to be contacted.

I would seriously hesitate to comment because no-one really knows who it is yet???

I'm sure the guy feels like shit!

Leave em alone till we know the whole story i say

smoky
18th April 2009, 10:34
A moron few???

Not called for scummy - in fact I know they wouldn't do that, they morph into responsibility itself when required, read the posts from when Warr had his accident

reading the news report; who said he even knew the rider that died?, how long after the accident did the Police turn up.
I hung around at an accident years ago, first on the scene when a car cut a bike off and he tee boned it. Stayed long enough to help the ambulance people treat the rider, put him in the ambulance, even helped clear the road, the police had turned up at some stage and were taking charge of things.
I left

Next thing I know they were asking for witnesses - no one had taken my name, and I was a bit too young to realise that I was considered a witness. As it happened the car was stolen, driver ran off and the rider died in the ambulance.

So who knows what the situation was, or who the other rider was, or if the police spoke to him and he left before they got proper details? who knows - I'll reserve my judgment

rosie631
18th April 2009, 10:55
Maybe he was in shock, could have been he's just seen his best mate die.

Shock causes people to do some strange things, we don't know if anyone told him to go an sit down/ go home or whatever.

While I agree that you never leave a fallen mate, once the pro's are there they always tell you to give them space and let them do their job, there is nothing more you can do.


Maybe thats how he felt....nothing more to do.....go home...mate dead.....melt down.........



Shezze I'm hate to lose somebody only to have a bunch of people tear me apart even further when they know nothing of the situation, only the media side and well we know they only print the exact truth now don't we.

But this is the internet and its always easier to attack anything from behind the screen.

Yeah, point taken:o

puddy
18th April 2009, 11:02
To little information to make any assumptions!!

Leave it alone until the facts come out!!

Here here! And besides, do we know what sort of bike was in the stream?

munterk6
18th April 2009, 11:47
wait n see....too little info to make judgements, although the busybodies thrive on this sort of thing :Pokey:

Anarkist
18th April 2009, 11:54
Hey, if he stopped for him, and left after professional help arrived then he done the right thing 100 percent.

If that's the case, I entirely agree. His mate would have probably wanted it that way anyway.

Ixion
18th April 2009, 12:07
I did read it as the guy was there when the ambulance came, but left before police arrived.

That must be so. Other wise, how would anyone know that there *was* a second motorcyclist?

After all, if the second rider left *before* the ambulance arrived, they'd have no way of knowing that he existed, would they? And the injured rider would hardly be in condition to tell them.

So the second rider must have been there when the ambo arrived. And then left before the police arrived.

Which makes sense. In my experience the police take far far longer to reach an accident scene than other services. The second rider summoned help, did what he could, then, once the ambo was there and the injured person in professional hands left (maybe hung round a bit, decided that noone else was going to put in an appearance). Either because he was unconnected with the injured rider (I have often ridden many miles with another rider who I did not know ) and figured he would just be in the way ; or to carry the bad news of his mate's accident to family.

Elysium
18th April 2009, 13:05
Don't think this has been posted yet.


A motorcyclist died last night after skidding off a road and into a stream.

The crash happened on Wiremu Road, near Okato, 26km southwest of New Plymouth, just before midnight and it left a 28-year-old man dead.

Police said the victim was found shortly after the incident and ambulance staff tried to save his life, but to no avail.

A second motorcyclist, who was with the victim at the time of the accident, is believed to have left the scene shortly after the crash. Police want to speak to that person as soon as possible.

They also want to hear from anyone who may have been passed by one or more motorcyclists north bound on or near Wiremu Road before midnight.

The name of the dead man will not be released until next of kin have been told. Anyone with information about the incident should contact Opunake police on 06 761 6051.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2344153/Motorcyclist-dies-after-skidding-off-road

I really hope the second person took off to get help.

James Deuce
18th April 2009, 13:10
Why would he? Help had arrived. He left after the ambo arrived and before the coppers turned up.

Who says he was even riding with the dude? He might be the anonymous good samaritan who rang emergency services upon finding the body and left once the ambo turned up.

Mind you, I'm leaping to conclusions.

It has already been posted and done to death in that thread too.

Elysium
18th April 2009, 13:15
I would think it's common knowlege to wait for the police, concidering the serious nature of the crash. Mind you the story doesn't tell go into much detail.

James Deuce
18th April 2009, 13:19
How about another what if? A motorcyclist rides past a crash scene being attended by an ambulance and stops to investigate. Upon being told that the motoryclist is dead, leaves. Should we demand that every car that drove past the scene wait for the police?

As I said, I'm leaping to conclusions, based on minimal imformation gleaned from a newspaper report.

So are you.

Grant`
18th April 2009, 16:28
Gutted to hear, Sorry for the family of the person involved.

blacksheep
18th April 2009, 17:10
Here here! And besides, do we know what sort of bike was in the stream?

whats that got to do with the price of butter ffs:oi-grr:

NZ CBR
18th April 2009, 17:15
I agree,

Our thoughts go out to those involved and I think it is way to early to judge or assume things.

Wake up call for all of us though as none of us or our mates are invincible.

YellowDog
18th April 2009, 17:23
Hopefully someone on this site will know a relative and be able to fill in the blanks for us.

The number of reported road deaths seems to be very high and higher than this time last year.

I hope I am wrong with my guestimation.

Skyryder
18th April 2009, 19:18
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10567258

Someone might have seen something so I posted up the link on this.


Skyryder

JimO
18th April 2009, 20:23
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10567258

Someone might have seen something so I posted up the link on this.


Skyryder

what a cunt leaving his mate

tommygun
20th April 2009, 10:24
This article was in the local Taranaki Daily News this morning.

Friends and emergency services searched frantically in the pitch black night after an Okato motorcyclist skidded off the road during a late night trip home from Opunake.

Keen biker, Jeremy Robert Conder, 28, had been just five minutes away from his home on Oxford Rd on Friday night when it appears he crashed on Wiremu Rd.

Mr Conder's bike was found on the bed of the nearby stream, but searchers failed to find the fatally injured man.

Police say he had lost control, hit a tin fence and was hidden from view in a stand of bamboo for up to 30 minutes after the crash.

Taranaki District Health Board paramedics, who also helped in the search, said he died soon after he was found. They were unable to revive him.

His beloved bike, a 2002 Buell, left 100m skid marks along the grass verge. Alongside, on the road, are black tyre marks where his horrified mate, following on his own bike, locked up his brakes when he came to a stop after witnessing the crash just before midnight.

Mr Conder's partner, Jasmine Care, and a close friend, Kelvin Jordan, of Rahotu, yesterday moved to correct earlier reports that his mate had left the scene.

The mate, whom they declined to name, had done everything possible to help, they said. He had tried to find Mr Conder, flagged down a passing motorist, and returned to the scene with Ms Care in a car.

"He went home to get me. We all went back. He wouldn't leave his best mate. He wouldn't do that," Ms Care said.

She said it "felt like forever" before they found him in the bamboo. "I was looking and calling out."

Taranaki Daily News 20/4

sinfull
20th April 2009, 10:41
Hopefully someone on this site will know a relative and be able to fill in the blanks for us.

. Why ? The official report will be out soon enough !
Untill then it is another biker down thread in a forum that seems to thrive on them and making speculation as to what happened !



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Mr Conder's partner, Jasmine Care, and a close friend, Kelvin Jordan, of Rahotu, yesterday moved to correct earlier reports that his mate had left the scene.

The mate, whom they declined to name, had done everything possible to help, they said. He had tried to find Mr Conder, flagged down a passing motorist, and returned to the scene with Ms Care in a car.

"He went home to get me. We all went back. He wouldn't leave his best mate. He wouldn't do that," Ms Care said.

She said it "felt like forever" before they found him in the bamboo. "I was looking and calling out."

Taranaki Daily News 20/4

Someone cries foul and the lynch mob howl !
Imagine how the poor bastard felt, not being able to find his mate in the pitch blackness !
Suck it up and wait till the official report comes in !

Naki Rat
20th April 2009, 10:43
Sorry to let the facts (http://www4.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/2345860/Frantic-search-for-fatally-hurt-man/) get in the way of a good public witch burning :bash:

Mikkel
20th April 2009, 10:45
What a tragedy, poor guys - 30 mins in the dark is a long long time - whether you are fatally injured or looking for someone who is.


The pre-judging in this thread isn't anything to be proud of. I sure hope his mate doesn't read KB regularly.

short-circuit
20th April 2009, 11:02
The pre-judging in this thread isn't anything to be proud of. I sure hope his mate doesn't read KB regularly.


KB at it's worst - what a bunch of pillocks

Beemer
20th April 2009, 14:05
Good to hear it wasn't a case of "shit, he's crashed, I'm pissed, I better get out of here".

Very pleased to hear the guy did what he could at the time, tried to find his mate, called for help then went to get the guy's partner. Here's hoping we all have friends like this.

cs363
20th April 2009, 19:46
What a tragedy, poor guys - 30 mins in the dark is a long long time - whether you are fatally injured or looking for someone who is.


The pre-judging in this thread isn't anything to be proud of. I sure hope his mate doesn't read KB regularly.

Agreed! And this despite many good words of caution to wait for the facts... :bash:

young1
20th April 2009, 20:12
I think a moderator should delete this whole thread!!

discotex
20th April 2009, 20:49
I think a moderator should delete this whole thread!!

I'm surprised it hasn't been moderated to hell already.... (and rightly so)

Solly
20th April 2009, 21:11
KB'ers at their worst.
Any of you nay-sayers have anything to say???....an apology to the family/friends of the deseased and to his mate he was riding with would be a good start!!

short-circuit
20th April 2009, 21:30
KB'ers at their worst.

That's what I said


More poor form :oi-grr: