BMWs - for old men?

[carver]

i have ridden a few BMW's, and i was wondering if they make anything decent.
besides the usual adventure barge GS....
anyone ridden any of their latest overpriced tanks?

[Motu]

Had a BMW as a young fella,and didn't like it.Have a BMW as an old fella,and I really like it.

Maybe it takes more experience before you appreciate them?

[Ixion]

You grow into them.

[carver]

Had a BMW as a young fella,and didn't like it.Have a BMW as an old fella,and I really like it.

Maybe it takes more experience before you appreciate them?


You grow into them.

cool, two old men that like them!

so its confirmed.

[White trash]

Chris Pfeiffer doesn't seem to agree much mate.

2007-8-9 Indoor World Stunt champ.

2006-7-8 European Stunt champ.

World record for consectutive circle wheelies in a minute (30+ from memory)

All on a BMW.

[Ixion]

You're too young to understand.

They're not for children

When you grow up, you'll understand. It's like sex, you'll understand about that one day, it's another thing reserved for grown ups

[jonbuoy]

Confirmed, but not just for old men - for people that have realised riding isn´t all about warp factor 10. I used think they were Ghey, now I´d hapily ride one or even a harley. If your still into riding in 10-15 years come back and read this post.

[carver]

Chris Pfeiffer doesn't seem to agree much mate.

2007-8-9 Indoor World Stunt champ.

2006-7-8 European Stunt champ.

World record for consectutive circle wheelies in a minute (30+ from memory)

All on a BMW.

that man could do it on a mudbug...
top bloke though....


You're too young to understand.

They're not for children

When you grow up, you'll understand. It's like sex, you'll understand about that one day, it's another thing reserved for grown ups

haha, will i understand being condescending one day too?

[Ixion]

haha, will i understand being condescending one day too?

No, that takes training. I done a course in that.

[carver]

but riding fast is not in the bike, its in your wrist, and after 10-15 years of masturbation i will probably need one with a thumb throttle.

[short-circuit]

Yes Beemers are for old cunts and/or smug fuckers

[carver]

No, that takes training. I done a course in that.

i did a course in "care for the elderly"
il show you how good it is in 2 years time in your rest home.

when i pinch the keys to your BMW and do huge BURN OUTS on it!

[short-circuit]

And Hondas are for queers (just to clear up any confusion)

[BMWST?]

i have ridden a few BMW's, and i was wondering if they make anything decent.
besides the usual adventure barge GS....
anyone ridden any of their latest overpriced tanks?

which models have you ridden?

[shards]

My "Overpriced Tank" weighs 200Kg (fully fueled), goes plenty fast enough to get locked up, will keep up with anything on a twisty country road and does 22K's per litre in the process. Some people even think it looks good too! That's NOT me by the way, I'm way too sensible for that.

[carver]

which models have you ridden?

R65 and a R850 from what i can remember.


My "Overpriced Tank" weighs 200Kg (fully fueled), goes plenty fast enough to get locked up, will keep up with anything on a twisty country road and does 22K's per litre in the process. Some people even think it looks good too! That's NOT me by the way, I'm way too sensible for that.

my gixxer does 20kpl, weighs goodness knows how much, and costs less to buy!

and it will own ya BMW up!

[SixPackBack]

My "Overpriced Tank" weighs 200Kg (fully fueled), goes plenty fast enough to get locked up, will keep up with anything on a twisty country road and does 22K's per litre in the process. Some people even think it looks good too! That's NOT me by the way, I'm way too sensible for that.

I have ridden a F800 and call bullshit. They are not that flash:oi-grr:

[gammaguy]

I have ridden a F800 and call bullshit. They are not that flash:oi-grr:

the beauty of those is if the BMW purists dont like them,they can point out the Rotax engine.

If they do like them,they can point out the bavarian switchgear and bags of "character"

as it happens i like them,and could care less what anyone else thinks.

its good to be different,at least thats what my mum says..........:baby:

[SixPackBack]

the beauty of those is if the BMW purists dont like them,they can point out the Rotax engine.

If they do like them,they can point out the bavarian switchgear and bags of "character"

as it happens i like them,and could care less what anyone else thinks.

its good to be different,at least thats what my mum says..........:baby:

Don't get me wrong the 800 is a great bike to tour and is fun to ride.....but all things being equal your average 600 will quickly leave it behind-it is not fast!

[Motu]

and costs less to buy!


Less than what? A new Rocket III,or a TF125 lying on it's side behind the cow shed?

What most people don't get,and I didn't get with my first one (kinda strange seeing as my bike of choice was always a single) - is that BMW,at least with the stuff that isn't current....is that they didn't tune for maximum HP,but maximum usable HP.There is a world of difference there.

Even though my Airhead is a short stroke version,it has a power band wider than any V twin of the same capacity.Older riders develop into ''pace'' riders,the power characteristics of most BMW's is a gift to pace riders.

[gammaguy]

Don't get me wrong the 800 is a great bike to tour and is fun to ride.....but all things being equal your average 600 will quickly leave it behind-it is not fast!

very true

BMW wisely have kept away from competing on horsepower,preferring instead to offer"innovative"ideas such as Electro-hydraulic brakes(not well received,subsequently quietly discontinued),ABS and -gasp-heated seats(which i can tell you are awesome)

as to whether this makes them value for money,the jury is still out on that one....

[nallac]

my gixxer does 20kpl

how the fuck do ya get 20kpl outa the Gixxer, you ride like a pussy?
the best i can get outa my R1 is 12 is usually 9

[Hitcher]

How long before BMW has more than two retail outlets in New Zealand?

[Big Dave]

my 08 bike of the year.

[gammaguy]

How long before BMW has more than two retail outlets in New Zealand?

when the importers get real in their expectations of floor stock,shop fitout and most importantly,prices.

[xwhatsit]

Even though my Airhead is a short stroke version,it has a power band wider than any V twin of the same capacity.Older riders develop into ''pace'' riders,the power characteristics of most BMW's is a gift to pace riders.
Dude I finish uni in a few months and will have my first proper job with (with a bit of luck) maybe a bit of money going into my bank account. One of the first things I plan to do with that is buy a large bike to give the poor 250 single a bit of a rest and let me do a complete ground-up rebuild and a bit of two-up stuff.

I'm really heavily considering a BMW twin. What do you recommend? I like air-cooled, comfortable even two-up, reliable, cheap. I don't like screens but I'm told BMW are the only ones who get them right so maybe I can live with that. Maybe even something I can hitch a chair to...? But that rules out the R-series, right?

[NZsarge]

I'd be keen on any of the new K1300 series but my bank account is'nt...

[sidecar bob]

Yes Beemers are for old cunts and/or smug fuckers

Ive met more smug young fuckers with Gixser 1000's.

[Dodgyiti]

The first BMW I ever rode was an R90S 1976. I was 21 years old and I loved it. It had a lumpy cam and Dellorto's and went pretty well and sounded good.

Then I sold that and have not found another model of BMW that has any soul whatsoever. I think they have, in a journey towards ultimate Germanic perfection, engineered all the fun out of them.

As for being great young fella's stunt bikes, that is all sponsorship $$$ nothing else, in an effort to attract young folk back into the brand in the last 10 years because all the BMW riders are now mostly in homes.

It seems to be working for them, the old fart image is becoming less and less, the super motard and entrance into superbikes will help.

I am just worried that Guzzi will fill the hole in the old fart's segment of the market, as the new (Hinkley) Bonnies have. Damn new Guzzi's actually work properly now and most of the 'quirks' (i.e.- the good bits) have been slowly ironed out. Damn Aprilla and their quality control and shared technology!

[Gubb]

I wouldn't say no to an HP2 Sport.

[scrivy]

Having raced a semi wild Hayabusa sidecar for a while with well over 200 Hp, then getting onto Sidecar Bobs BMW post classic sidecar with 85 Hp, I know straight away which sidecar gives me the biggest thrill!!
They are both bitches to steer, both go sideways with ease, both make us sweat, and both bring a smile to my dial.

But it is the BMW rig that raises the fun stakes every time!!

oh, yeah, and the sound of the twin.................... Fwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! !!!

[BMWST?]

Don't get me wrong the 800 is a great bike to tour and is fun to ride.....but all things being equal your average 600 will quickly leave it behind-it is not fast!
the 800 may not be ultimately any where near as quick,or fast.
But in a real world situation on a windy road,with rain and some luggage i think the f800 would be just what the doctor ordered for any sane person with an ego to suit
Was the same with my K100RS..nowhere near as quick as a Jap 1000 or even 750.....but throw in some long days,rain and luggage and at the end of the day the beemer was ready for more......and the rider

And Carver...you have ridden the BOTTOM of the range there...

[vifferman]

i have ridden a few BMW's, and i was wondering if they make anything decent.
besides the usual adventure barge GS....
anyone ridden any of their latest overpriced tanks?
So, you haven't heard of the BMWs that are being punted around the track in WSB races?
Nor the K1200S? K1200R?
The world's fastest BMW at Bonneville? (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/255457/1951676)

[sidecar bob]

Having raced a semi wild Hayabusa sidecar for a while with well over 200 Hp, then getting onto Sidecar Bobs BMW post classic sidecar with 85 Hp, I know straight away which sidecar gives me the biggest thrill!!
They are both bitches to steer, both go sideways with ease, both make us sweat, and both bring a smile to my dial.

But it is the BMW rig that raises the fun stakes every time!!

oh, yeah, and the sound of the twin.................... Fwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! !!!

Pictures, or it didnt happen.

[James Deuce]

So, you haven't heard of the BMWs that are being punted around the track in WSB races?
Nor the K1200S? K1200R?
The world's fastest BMW at Bonneville? (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/255457/1951676)

The K1200S/R/GT series have been replaced with 1300s and 147 rwh, and they've spruced up the Duolever front end so it has a more fluid action.

[Dodgyiti]

BMW Vs Guzzi :innocent:

[pritch]

One reason older guys like BMWs was (and is?) that they are the most comfortable bikes around. If you want to cross continents, or even ride the length of this little country, there's few to equal them and none better.

I used to like my K100RS, and I wouldn't mind another Beemer, but they seem to get bigger and bigger and are just so bloody ugly...

[EJK]

I like the BMW's factory lowering option.


Damn, I know... I should have had basketball player parents. :(

[Taz]

One reason older guys like BMWs was (and is?) that they are the most comfortable bikes around.

My GS's seat was designed by hitlers cheif torturer..... Rules out the comfort argument. (apart from the seat it's not bad. I got rider seats to alter mine and it's still uncomfortable for anything over 500kms in a day.

[MIXONE]

My GS's seat was designed by hitlers cheif torturer..... Rules out the comfort argument. (apart from the seat it's not bad. I got rider seats to alter mine and it's still uncomfortable for anything over 500kms in a day.

The 100GS was the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden.500+ ks in a day 2 up with gear was never a problem.
Definitely an old blokes bike though so I'm glad that I fit that demographic.

[vifferman]

The K1200S/R/GT series have been replaced with 1300s and 147 rwh, and they've spruced up the Duolever front end so it has a more fluid action.
Yeah, I *knew* that, but when I was trying to think what the latest/greatest new BMW was, I couldn't remember the model.
It was only a reply to Craver, after all - not worth expending too much effort on, eh? :whistle:

[scrivy]

Pictures, or it didnt happen.

Do you like looking at yourself in the mirror too?????
Fwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... ..............

Go the mighty BMW!!!

[Maha]

I would have a K1200s in a heartbeat!
You can pick up a K5 with luggage for $20K.

But I guess being in my late (ish) 40's carver would think I am old....:bash:

[Beemer]

My husband has two - an old R100RS (that has done close to 20 Grand Challenges) and an R1100RT which he picked up cheaply last year. He loves them both but would also be very happy with one of the 800s.

I used to have an F650CS and I'm pretty sure I'm not an old man! True, older men are more likely to be able to afford them, but you don't have to be old to ride one! Or a man for that matter!

[sidecar bob]

Do you like looking at yourself in the mirror too?????
Fwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... ..............

Go the mighty BMW!!!

Yup, theyre definitely two old men. Maybe Craver is right. Hey here's a plan, Chuck Craver on the side & go into turn one at Puke at 170k like the R/H pic shows & see if he can hang on.

[Hazza]

Yes BMW's are for old men.

My old man just brought one so they must be aha

[Hitcher]

Yes BMW's are for old men.

Old men within riding distance of Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga or Christchurch. Making the brand largely irrelevant to the half of the population of New Zealand that isn't.

[James Deuce]

Yeah, I *knew* that, but when I was trying to think what the latest/greatest new BMW was, I couldn't remember the model.
It was only a reply to Craver, after all - not worth expending too much effort on, eh? :whistle:

I wanna see him wheelie one!

[carver]

Ive met more smug young fuckers with Gixser 1000's.

really, i find they are usually on R1's


how the fuck do ya get 20kpl outa the Gixxer, you ride like a pussy?
the best i can get outa my R1 is 12 is usually 9

cause gixxers rule.
i can get 270 before the fuel light comes on and thats at about 15~l


the 800 may not be ultimately any where near as quick,or fast.
But in a real world situation on a windy road,with rain and some luggage i think the f800 would be just what the doctor ordered for any sane person with an ego to suit
Was the same with my K100RS..nowhere near as quick as a Jap 1000 or even 750.....but throw in some long days,rain and luggage and at the end of the day the beemer was ready for more......and the rider

And Carver...you have ridden the BOTTOM of the range there...

so there ya go, are the other ones any better?


So, you haven't heard of the BMWs that are being punted around the track in WSB races?
Nor the K1200S? K1200R?
The world's fastest BMW at Bonneville? (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/255457/1951676)


Yeah, I *knew* that, but when I was trying to think what the latest/greatest new BMW was, I couldn't remember the model.
It was only a reply to Craver, after all - not worth expending too much effort on, eh? :whistle:

nuf said


Yup, theyre definitely two old men. Maybe Craver is right. Hey here's a plan, Chuck Craver on the side & go into turn one at Puke at 170k like the R/H pic shows & see if he can hang on.

should be a piece of piss, il probably be giggling like a girl as i do it. :gob:


I would have a K1200s in a heartbeat!
You can pick up a K5 with luggage for $20K.

But I guess being in my late (ish) 40's carver would think I am old....:bash:

yeah, your old.

[martybabe]

One reason older guys like BMWs was (and is?) that they are the most comfortable bikes around. If you want to cross continents, or even ride the length of this little country, there's few to equal them and none better.

I used to like my K100RS, and I wouldn't mind another Beemer, but they seem to get bigger and bigger and are just so bloody ugly...

Spot on mate, my R100rs and R100rt were the most comfortable bikes I've ever ridden , quite an experience to get off a bike having ridden 500 miles and feel fresh as a daisy. A generalisation but for serious mile eating at pace BMW is the brand to look at first IMO.

Anecdotally, for Mr Carver, an acquaintance of mine claims to have been banned from the track at the model launch of Suzukis GSX600 in France. As an invited dealer, he rode the length of France in one day, tested the new bike,Proclaimed to Mr Suzuki that his old BMW R1150s? was much faster and was challenged to prove it .

By all accounts he thrashed the Suzuki with the factory test rider aboard, was grilled by the factory mechanics as to what mods the beemer had, and on being told it was totally stock was asked to leave. He then rode the several hundred miles back through France and made the late ferry home.

Embellished or not, the fact remains that he raced gixer thous at an amateur level but any real world, rapid distance ridding, the beemer would be his first choice against anything he had in his shop.

He was about 28 years old, had access to just about any sports bike going but he believed nothing could touch his beemer over distance at speed.

I'm no great fan of BMWs but they are fuggin good bikes, if a little ugly, long lived, long legged, well built and very rapid in the right hands. So no, not just for old men or if they are then it's a bloody shame.

[carver]

nice story, so its the ultimate real world superbike eh?

[martybabe]

nice story, so its the ultimate real world superbike eh?

I think that's the idea mate, gixers are awesome but totally focused on performance which is why they're so good at what they do. I'd love one for a track day or a drag strip but Hamilton to stewart Island and back in the shortest possible time and still being able to stand upright, I'd pick the beemer. :niceone:

[short-circuit]

But I guess being in my late (ish) 40's carver would think I am old....:bash:

Yes you qualify

[SARGE]

Had a BMW as a young fella,and didn't like it.Have a BMW as an old fella,and I really like it.

Maybe it takes more experience before you appreciate them?

he wont live that long mate .. let it go ...

[carver]

I think that's the idea mate, gixers are awesome but totally focused on performance which is why they're so good at what they do. I'd love one for a track day or a drag strip but Hamilton to stewart Island and back in the shortest possible time and still being able to stand upright, I'd pick the beemer. :niceone:

hmmm...my gixxer aint bad for a few hours in the saddle, i did 15 hours on a yamaha jog once, and once agian on a GS500/DR650 too!

[Ixion]

Yeah, but after the punishment your arse has taken, mere saddlesoreness is not going to rate, no matter how many hours.

[carver]

I wanna see him wheelie one!

i want to see me wheelie one!


Yeah, but after the punishment your arse has taken, mere saddlesoreness is not going to rate, no matter how many hours.

can you tell me thew long term effects?

[Ixion]

can you tell me thew long term effects?

Yep, here y'go.

www.arsebandits.com (http://menshealth.about.com/od/conditions/a/HIV_signs.htm)

Got it all there. Couple of links there to other sites you'll probably find useful , too

[short-circuit]

Yeah, but after the punishment your arse has taken, mere saddlesoreness is not going to rate, no matter how many hours.


Valid point

[carver]

Yep, here y'go.

www.arsebandits.com (http://menshealth.about.com/od/conditions/a/HIV_signs.htm)

Got it all there. Couple of links there to other sites you'll probably find useful , too

thanks, but i was after your personal findings.

[mynameis]

i have ridden a few BMW's, and i was wondering if they make anything decent.
besides the usual adventure barge GS....
anyone ridden any of their latest overpriced tanks?


You're too young to understand.

They're not for children

When you grow up, you'll understand. It's like sex, you'll understand about that one day, it's another thing reserved for grown ups

Bwahahaha pwnd ! :lol:

[Mooch]

Yep , they are for old men ....... Like the one I met near the bottom of South America, He'd riden down from BA including some of the gravel roads we'd taken on adventure bikes .... on a k1200rt , at 70 years old. Can't wait to be 70 ! yeah , BMW's are for old men

[MVnut]

my 08 bike of the year.

Megamotos rule OK:rockon:

[Oscar]

I'm not a big fan of BMW's but I would happily own an HP2 (if money wasn't a factor, in preference to a 950 Super Enduro).

I would also like to get my hands on an R90S...

[BMWST?]

so there ya go, are the other ones any better?



well lets see.The r65 was BMW smallest bike goodness knows how long ago.Its like comparing a modern gsxr 1000 to say a old suzuki 450 or 500 twin or maybe a gs550 or similar

Likewise the R850 its the lowest model from abiout 1998 or so...The four cylinder bikes have a bit more go than them,which i guess all your on about but few would dispute the GSXR would be superior in engine performance and outright high speed handling.I doubt even you think that

[Swoop]

goes plenty fast enough to get locked up
The bike or the rider?:2thumbsup

Can't wait to be 70 ! yeah , BMW's are for old men
It sounds like that BMW is keeping the rider young!:banana:

[alanzs]

Confirmed, but not just for old men - for people that have realised riding isn´t all about warp factor 10. I used think they were Ghey, now I´d hapily ride one or even a harley. If your still into riding in 10-15 years come back and read this post.

Right on. I used to be snobby about bikes when I was young. Now, I just like riding, whatever the brand name is. Some machines are better than others, but it's all a thrill... :2thumbsup

[Bonez]

hmmm...my gixxer aint bad for a few hours in the saddle, i did 15 hours on a yamaha jog once, and once agian on a GS500/DR650 too!Start the engine next time.

[carver]

well lets see.The r65 was BMW smallest bike goodness knows how long ago.Its like comparing a modern gsxr 1000 to say a old suzuki 450 or 500 twin or maybe a gs550 or similar

Likewise the R850 its the lowest model from abiout 1998 or so...The four cylinder bikes have a bit more go than them,which i guess all your on about but few would dispute the GSXR would be superior in engine performance and outright high speed handling.I doubt even you think that

im not comparing those bikes to the gixxer, i think a R850 could be compared to something more like a modern japanese bike of the same price


Start the engine next time.

watch the vid

[short-circuit]

watch the vid


Don't watch it - it is crap like all the others.

Plus he'll think he's important (notorious)

[awayatc]

All old bikeriders have been young once....(or twice)

They must have obviously survived those wild young years....and learned a thing or 2...

Only alternative to growing old is to die young.....

[carver]

Don't watch it - it is crap like all the others.

Plus he'll think he's important (notorious)

i agree with you on that!

season two will be worse!

i wrote part of it today!

[Motu]

The r65 was BMW smallest bike goodness knows how long ago.

The R65 was based on the R45,which obviously wasn't a big seller.The R65 has the same bore as the R75...so it's a short stroke 750.I think the R65 was available for a very long time on the home market....and there were R65GS versions as well.

Just sticking up for the little fella....

[MaxB]

The R65 was based on the R45,which obviously wasn't a big seller.The R65 has the same bore as the R75...so it's a short stroke 750.I think the R65 was available for a very long time on the home market....and there were R65GS versions as well.

Just sticking up for the little fella....

And before that there were the R25/R26 250cc models. And more recently that God awful BMW C1 commuter thing, all 125cc of it.

Old mans bike? Meh. When I was 22 I had an R65 when I was in Europe. It had a 3/4 Rickman fairing which was a thinly veiled rip off of the R100RS fairing.

I once averaged (sorry about the units) 90.33mph over 250 miles on a journey I had to make on a bike making 50 rwhp and a top speed of 115mph. And the air temp was 10 degC and the wind chill took it well below that.

The only downside was that at normal travelling speed the bike would have just made it on a tank but at these speeds I was forced to stop for fuel and to thaw out thus dropping the average. Near the end of the trip I filled up to get the receipt and got to my destination cold but fully functional.

The beauty of the smaller airheads was that they were massively over engineered and could be run near the redline all day.

[MaxCannon]

MCN have a Video with an R1200GS (on dual purpose tyres) lapping within 8 seconds of a GSXR750

It's 2 seconds a lap quicker than a VFR800.

[carver]

MCN have a Video with an R1200GS (on dual purpose tyres) lapping within 8 seconds of a GSXR750

It's 2 seconds a lap quicker than a VFR800.

8 secs might as well be a day

VFR's are slow

[Oscar]

8 secs might as well be a day

VFR's are slow

Your girlfriend says 8 seconds is just a dream...

[Hitcher]

Your girlfriend says 8 seconds is just a dream...

Yes, but what an 8 seconds!

[carver]

Your girlfriend says 8 seconds is just a dream...

you have been talking to some funny people, what girlfriend?

[Motu]

The beauty of the smaller airheads was that they were massively over engineered and could be run near the redline all day.

From the owners manual...Maximum continuous engine speed -

R80....7,200rpm - max hp 6,500rpm.

R65....7,300rpm - max hp 7,250rpm.

Like the old aircooled VW beatle,they are made to run at their top speed all day.I've had the R65 up to 8,000rpm....I've got a tendency to go WTF,and just hold it wide open when I'm in a good slide on gravel.....

[reverend]

Yes Beemers are for old cunts and/or smug fuckers
I would guess that there are more "old men" riding Harleys - do we start a thread "Harleys for old men?"

Each to his own - I like my bike but would not be as happy on a Gixxer or a Harley (maybe a XR1200).

[awayatc]

do we start a thread "Harleys for old men?"


You are only as old as the woman you feel.......

[Voltaire]

From the owners manual...Maximum continuous engine speed -

R80....7,200rpm - max hp 6,500rpm.

R65....7,300rpm - max hp 7,250rpm.

Like the old aircooled VW beatle,they are made to run at their top speed all day.I've had the R65 up to 8,000rpm....I've got a tendency to go WTF,and just hold it wide open when I'm in a good slide on gravel.....

Some of the reasons Beetles could run at top speed all day was top gear was an overdrive and the inlet manifold prohibited over revving.
I don't recall being able to do much over 4000 rpm in top.
Any higher than this tru the gears would hammer out the magnesium crankcase on # 2 journal.
:sherlock:
I read an article on BMW's R90s racer and at those sort of revs they discovered no only did the oil pump use lots of power the pump started cavitating and foaming the oil....but then thats on a race bike.

As for old mans bikes....that role is taken by Falcadores and those hideous Chrysler 300's

[Indiana_Jones]

Granted I havn't seen many young guys on BMW, but I wouldn't say their for old men.

No bike is made just for old men lol

From what I hear they have pretty good engines and make great tourers

-Indy

[Morcs]

There are generally 2 different directions bikers go when they get older - either onto Harleys or Beemers.

[Indiana_Jones]

There are generally 2 different directions bikers go when they get older - either onto Harleys or Beemers.

What about Triumph?

-Indy

[Maha]

Granted I havn't seen many young guys on BMW, but I wouldn't say their for old men.

No bike is made just for old men lol

From what I hear they have pretty good engines and make great tourers

-Indy

Granted, some do look like hammered shit but the K1200s is a stunner.


There are generally 2 different directions bikers go when they get older - either onto Harleys or Beemers.

Thats scary, I was looking at an XL1200 only yesterday, and the K1200s ....:laugh:

[Oscar]

There are generally 2 different directions senile and incontinent bikers go when they get older - either onto Harleys or Beemers.

Fixed for accuracy...

[Highlander]

10 days ago I thought I didn't have enough grey hair for a BMW.

Then I rode one.

Now I own it.


Thanks for listening, I'll just go back to my rocking chair on the porch.

[Kwaka14]

http://www.trendhunter.com/embed-templates/photos?&url_title=bmw-s1000-rr-motorcycle&ShortTitle1=Mighty+Motorcycles&picture_count=5&entry_id=42396&default_view=trends&current=2&CustomColor1=333333&google_id=pub-4201952169683202

[Dodgyiti]

I had my R90S from age 22 to 37 then handed it over and got into Guzzis
What does that say?
Must admit, during my BMW phase I seemed to be outside the demographic for sure.

Not too many BMW owners adding to this thread.

PERHAPS WE WILL HAVE TO SPEAK UP A BIT!

[Dooly]

There are generally 2 different directions bikers go when they get older - either onto Harleys or Beemers.

Spose I'm older, but..........fuck that...........NEVER!!!:shit::laugh:

[James Deuce]

I had my R90S from age 22 to 37 then handed it over and got into Guzzis
What does that say?


You finally found out that Guzzis are BMWs with an erection?

[disturbed]

i think bmws are great bikes but theres no way you can compare them to other bikes, they are in a league of their own, nice to ride and packing all the latest tec but they are ugly as sin! im guessing that is why people think they are only for old people because all of us young cunts put looks near the top of the list when buying a bike.

[Indiana_Jones]

..... but they are ugly as sin! im guessing that is why people think they are only for old people because all of us young cunts put looks near the top of the list when buying a bike.

Well he's got me there!

The looks was the 1st thing that made me stop and look at a Daytona!

-Indy

[jafar]

Not too many BMW owners adding to this thread.

PERHAPS WE WILL HAVE TO SPEAK UP A BIT!

WHAT'S THAT SONNY :motu:

[Voltaire]

You finally found out that Guzzis are BMWs with an erection?

now thats funny:laugh:
I thought they did it to avoid patent infringment....

[Eddieb]

Ok I'll bite.

My bmw's may be old, and they may be ugly but 99% of maintenance stuff I can do myself. Valves clearances take 20 minutes and require take a 10mm & 12mm ring spanner. I can tune it myself and fix 99% of potential issues on the side of the road.

And they let me do lots of road miles, as well as lots of this on the same bike on the same day.

Can't figure out if I'm an old bastard, a smug bastard or both though.

[Oscar]

Ok I'll bite.

My bmw's may be old, and they may be ugly but 99% of maintenance stuff I can do myself. Valves clearances take 20 minutes and require take a 10mm & 12mm ring spanner. I can tune it myself and fix 99% of potential issues on the side of the road.

And they let me do lots of road miles, as well as lots of this on the same bike on the same day.

Can't figure out if I'm an old bastard, a smug bastard or both though.

Agreed.
A pity you couldn't say the same about the 1200GS.

[BMWST?]

when i had my k100rs it was the 10th of 11(of 12 now)It was certainly different to all the others....and in some ways the best..... by far.....They seemed to know what was required and how to get it..even the much maligned switchgear made sense when you had had the bike for more than 2 hours

[jimbo]

I had my R90S from age 22 to 37 then handed it over and got into Guzzis
What does that say?
Must admit, during my BMW phase I seemed to be outside the demographic for sure.

Not too many BMW owners adding to this thread.

PERHAPS WE WILL HAVE TO SPEAK UP A BIT!

OK ,Im on my third Beemer,1st one purchased when 30,done a few k's on em.I reckon they are a reasonably capable all rounder,what power they have (:laugh::laugh::laugh:) is easily usable.Highlander,good choiceman .:laugh:
Duncan McKee from Welly could prove to any one that they can be a capable track bike in the right hands.(Any one remember his ex Mot race bike:shit::Punk:)

[Voltaire]

I'll bite too...
When I took my R75/5 to Europe in the late 80's I didn't see to many Japanese, British or Italian bikes riding around Eastern Turkey, behind the Iron curtain or up in Norway at the Artic Circle.
Also did the Elefantreffen three times in the ice and snow, twice with a sidecar.
..and back then you were on your own with whatever spares and tools you could carry...no Motobins, mobile phones, email or internet.

If I was gonna do it again I still think I'd take the R75/5.
my 2 fennigs worth

...anyway back to fitting the heated grips to the Duke.....:laugh:
riding in the ice and snow frost nipped my hands......

[Highlander]

Getting cold out there, best I "winter" my bike and move the rocking chair indoors (or get the young uns to do it for me).

[terbang]

Old men within riding distance of Auckland, Hamilton, Tauranga or Christchurch. Making the brand largely irrelevant to the half of the population of New Zealand that isn't.

I note Aprilia (http://www.apriliadealers.com/) dealers aren't exactly abundant.

[_Shrek_]

You're too young to understand.

They're not for children

When you grow up, you'll understand. It's like sex, you'll understand about that one day, it's another thing reserved for grown ups

bling bling :rofl:

I never thought that it's coz i've grown up, I just thought it's coz I'm 50, bald & got a front porch :laugh:

[YellowDog]

There are a couple of European Tiger forums that I used to frequent. I was amazed at just how many obsessive young Germans members there are. I suspect they just want to 'give the finger' to the BMW establishment.

The message I have been getting is:

1. The BMW image is not young and cool. Old or professional is closer what BMW stands for.

2. BMWs are no longer the 'Bulletproof' high engineering quality bikes they built their name upon.

Personally, all my BMW experiences have been very good and is was the high and upright (ideal for old farts - too stiff to bend) riding position is what lead me to buying a Tiger.

[jimbo]

Getting cold out there, best I "winter" my bike and move the rocking chair indoors (or get the young uns to do it for me).

Put thepipe and slippers away and turn on te heated grips sir:bleh::niceone::niceone:

[smoky]

my 08 bike of the year.

yep - that was a surprise, and you're still gaining your credibility back

[_Shrek_]

i think bmws are great bikes but theres no way you can compare them to other bikes, they are in a league of their own, nice to ride and packing all the latest tec but they are ugly as sin! im guessing that is why people think they are only for old people because all of us young cunts put looks near the top of the list when buying a bike.

:eek: have you looked in a mirror lately, any way I make my beemer look good :whistle:


Must admit, during my BMW phase I seemed to be outside the demographic for sure.

are you sure your still not outside :bleh:


R65 and a R850 from what i can remember.

then why start a thread you can't realy comment on, :doh: sorry forgot you're carver so the rumours a true :rolleyes:

[Highlander]

Put thepipe and slippers away and turn on te heated grips sir:bleh::niceone::niceone:

So long as I can still have my Single Malt and Shortbread.

Seriously though I could get used to heated grips and that boxer engine certainly keeps my feet warmer than on the CB.

[Ixion]

Must admit, during my BMW phase I seemed to be outside the demographic for sure.



I wouldn't want to belong to any demographic that would be willing to have someone like me as a member !

[Motu]

was the high and upright (ideal for old farts - too stiff to bend) riding position is what lead me to buying a Tiger.

Changing the bars on the BMW turned it from a bike I didn't like to ride to one I love to ride - simple as that....you don't have to go and buy another bloody bike!!

[jafar]

I wouldn't want to belong to any demographic that would be willing to have someone like me as a member !

Or any club either :msn-wink:

[reverend]

Hey this is such a great thread I want to keep it going.
Let's categorize some other bike owners, we have already established that BMWs are for old men and hondas are for fags.

This might be useful to help answer the common question, "what bike should I buy?", well "are you a fag?" - honda, "are you an old fag?" - "can you afford 2 bikes?".

So, here goes - just for a laugh.

BMW - old men
Honda - fags (see earlier in the thread)
Harley - drug dealers
KTM - wankers who think their bikes are better than anybody else's (prob are)
Suzuki - under educated poor
Triumph - dedicated hard cunts
Gixxer - wankers who think their bikes are better than anything else
Hysong - sorry this is real bikes only
Aprilla - over paid dicks

That's all I've got sor far. Anyone else?

[Oscar]

Hey this is such a great thread I want to keep it going.
Let's categorize some other bike owners, we have already established that BMWs are for old men and hondas are for fags.

This might be useful to help answer the common question, "what bike should I buy?", well "are you a fag?" - honda, "are you an old fag?" - "can you afford 2 bikes?".

So, here goes - just for a laugh.

BMW - old men
Honda - fags (see earlier in the thread)
Harley - drug dealers
KTM - wankers who think their bikes are better than anybody else's (prob are)
Suzuki - under educated poor
Triumph - dedicated hard cunts
Gixxer - wankers who think their bikes are better than anything else
Hysong - sorry this is real bikes only
Aprilla - over paid dicks

That's all I've got sor far. Anyone else?

Wait about someone with a Suzuki and a KTM?

[Devil]

Wait about someone with a Suzuki and a KTM?

You called?
:scooter:
Although the Suzuki is a UZ125 scooter ;)

[Hitcher]

Aprilla - over paid dicks

It's spelt Aprilia. And my dick isn't paid anywhere near enough.

[Dooly]

Triumph - dedicated hard cunts

Yep, I'm a hard cunt.
Oops.......nope, just a cunt.:yes:

I gotta Ducati too, you missed them out...........summitt about Latte drinking cafe fags or whatever I read on here........so must be right eh?:blink:

[nudemetalz]

Guzzi - people with style...and a screw loose somewhere. I mean to say, look at Dangerous.... :rofl:

[carver]

Hey this is such a great thread I want to keep it going.
Let's categorize some other bike owners, we have already established that BMWs are for old men and hondas are for fags.

This might be useful to help answer the common question, "what bike should I buy?", well "are you a fag?" - honda, "are you an old fag?" - "can you afford 2 bikes?".

So, here goes - just for a laugh.

BMW - old men
Honda - fags (see earlier in the thread)
Harley - drug dealers
KTM - wankers who think their bikes are better than anybody else's (prob are)
Suzuki - under educated poor
Triumph - dedicated hard cunts
Gixxer - wankers who think their bikes are better than anything else
Hysong - sorry this is real bikes only
Aprilla - over paid dicks

That's all I've got sor far. Anyone else?

Yamaha-posers
Kawasaki-Nutters
Ducati-snobs

[Voltaire]

Yamaha-posers
Kawasaki-Nutters
Ducati-snobs

that makes me a snobby old man:gob:

" is that a latte your drinking?"

" nah..esspresso and dribble..."

[Pogo2]

going into a bike dealer and telling them I wanted to buy a K100RS. The guy looked at me and said "Your too young for a bike like that" That was in 1995 and I was 31 at the time. Had my K for 11 years and loved it.

Like others have said, not huge HP but useable HP. Hardly need to change gear, just twist the throttle. To me thats what riding is all about - effortless!

[6ft5]

going into a bike dealer and telling them I wanted to buy a K100RS. The guy looked at me and said "Your too young for a bike like that" That was in 1995 and I was 31 at the time. Had my K for 11 years and loved it.

Like others have said, not huge HP but useable HP. Hardly need to change gear, just twist the throttle. To me thats what riding is all about - effortless!

That why you scoot now, you got it wrong man biking is to tease the engine and feel the power and make it work

[Indiana_Jones]

I think at the ripe old age of 22, I'm starting to look at bikes like the new Bonnie etc.

I loving my Daytona at the moment, but I donno if it suits my style

-Indy

[RussellNZ]

If you think the airheads are a tad boring, think again! Check out Kiwi Airheads http://www.www.rter.co.nz/Airheads/ and check out the racers. There's some bloody nice bikes like the R90S's going strong after more than 30 years. These are well put together bikes and there's no two ways about it, they're bloody admirable. And great to ride...

[Sidewinder]

Chris Pfeiffer doesn't seem to agree much mate.

2007-8-9 Indoor World Stunt champ.

2006-7-8 European Stunt champ.

World record for consectutive circle wheelies in a minute (30+ from memory)

All on a BMW.

but hes the man on anything cock sucker

[scracha]

but hes the man on anything cock sucker
It's just cos you're a wee man Sidewinder. If you were a big boy, you'd appreciate tigers, beemers and my ever so sexy TDM. They're proper "man's" bikes. On the road, sportsbikes are merely for little boys and girls who like to pretend they can ride fast.

Chur
Ex latte drinking total nutter poseur fag.

[Motoracer]

This one suits me quite well and I ain't too old.

[jaffaonajappa]

OK ,Im on my third Beemer,1st one purchased when 30,done a few k's on em.I reckon they are a reasonably capable all rounder,what power they have (:laugh::laugh::laugh:) is easily usable.Highlander,good choiceman .:laugh:
Duncan McKee from Welly could prove to any one that they can be a capable track bike in the right hands.(Any one remember his ex Mot race bike:shit::Punk:)

Damn, I remember Duncan Mckee very very well. And his bikes. I remember him and Sean Kelly competing often - the two fastest boxer twins in Bears.
And earlier, Mckee doing the bears F1 race against Mike King on his 888(or 851?)- both were damn fast. Quicker than Anything else on the track that day.......same day Raymond Roche kicked arse at Manfield. 1987/88 era I think?
Funny to see a MoT (cop) bike get transformed into a goddamn rocket. Even funnier seeing it blitz the hottest Ducatis of the day too.

Oh, good memories. (And sorry for renewing this old old thread?)

[TIBLE_90]

bmw s1000rr is no old mans bike. If I had the money I'd def buy one of those in black :), such a sexy bike...my dream bike:innocent:

[jaffaonajappa]

bmw s1000rr is no old mans bike. If I had the money I'd def buy one of those in black :), such a sexy bike...my dream bike:innocent:

Im thinking about getting a new sport bike near xmas.
S1000RR, or 1198.
Its not a straight forward decision.......but yeah - can certainly no longer say the Beemers are old or slow.

[Oscar]

I wanted this when I was a youngster, and I now I have the moolaa to get it:

Old mans bike?
I don't think so, and anyone who wants to dispute that can race me on the gravel...:woohoo:

[jaffaonajappa]

I wanted this when I was a youngster, and I now I have the moolaa to get it:

Old mans bike?
I don't think so, and anyone who wants to dispute that can race me on the gravel...:woohoo:

Saw a version of that recently....had this Massssssive fuel tank, see through. Like 50 litres or so. Could come in handy.

[Oscar]

Saw a version of that recently....had this Massssssive fuel tank, see through. Like 50 litres or so. Could come in handy.

Was it the German couple touring the Sth Island?

Mines standard, a mere 31 litres..