Hi (turner)

[turner]

i am movin to new zealand next sunday from the uk, i am 16 years and been riding an rs 50 for a couple of months and i have a few questions to ask.

1. can i change my UK provisional to an NZ learners licence like you would do with a full licence ?

2. if not what exactly do i have to do to get a learners licence e.g. practical or theory ?

3. any bikes for sale i am lookin for either zxr 250 or similar or a klx 250 or similar, i will have about $3000 dollers

cheers

[The Baron]

Hi Turner. Welcome to KB and new Zealand.

I don't think you will have any problem getting a 250 in NZ in yor price range.

[CookMySock]

1. can i change my UK provisional to an NZ learners licence like you would do with a full licence ?I do not know. I wouldn't think so.


2. if not what exactly do i have to do to get a learners licence e.g. practical or theory ?It is a simple slow-speed practical test in a carpark, to make sure you know how to use the controls of the motorcycle, and that you can balance and stop safely. Then there is a simple theory test.


3. any bikes for sale i am lookin for either zxr 250 or similar or a klx 250 or similar, i will have about $3000 dollers See trademe.co.nz

Welcome to NZ.

Steve

[kiwifruit]

hey up :sunny:

[naphazoline]

Welcome to New Zealand,and the forum Turner.:sunny:

[PeteMun]

Hi, welcome :) where abouts in the UK are you coming from ?

[turner]

Holmfirth in west yorkshire, by the way is there other sites with bikes for sale, looked on trademe, biketrader, on the kb online trading bit.

also forgot to mention i am moving to somewhere around hamilton so if anyone you know in the area is selling a bike please let me no.

[Whynot]

also forgot to mention i am moving to somewhere around hamilton so if anyone you know in the area is selling a bike please let me no.

Thats Hamiltron (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hamiltron_city_of_the_future) btw ....

[YellowDog]

Homefirth = Last of the Summer Wine country.

You're not bringing your grandads are you?

If you want to go local internet searches, go to www.google.co.nz and then you can search NZ sites only. OR you could try Yellow Pages:
http://yellow.co.nz/search/Hamilton/Motorcycles&Scooters-1.html

Lots of bikes for sale.

Getting your licence is much easier than in the UK. Safety standards are much lower and there isn't such a queue of people trying to get them.

Apart from being a lot wetter, you'll enjoy Hamilton. There's no winter frost or snow. The eight week very wet season will start about six weeks after you arrive.

Good luck.

[turner]

do i need insurance for a bike? i no it isnt compusarly for a car but dont no if its the same for a bike, if so how much would i be looking at.

yes, last of the summer wine country
and no, my grandad is not coming. lol

[koba]

do i need insurance for a bike? i no it isnt compusarly for a car but dont no if its the same for a bike, if so how much would i be looking at.

yes, last of the summer wine country
and no, my grandad is not coming. lol

No, but at least 3rd party is a very good idea.
As for the price I'm sure someone closer to your age will have a better idea of the premiums they charge. do shop around for insurance as prices vary a fair bit.

Also don't look past 150 two strokes as they are about the same asa 250 four stroke and can be raced as-is in streetstock class :clap:

[CookMySock]

do i need insurance for a bike? i no it isnt compusarly for a car but dont no if its the same for a bike, if so how much would i be looking at.Well it is up to you to decide if you need insurance. If you are one of these people who makes money out insurance companies, then yes you need it. If you are one of these people who the insurance company makes money from, then no you don't. Of course, there are those on KB who will abuse you if you are without insurance, and then there are those who will smirk at you if you do. So hey its a fucked up world isn't it?! :clap:

Prices for insurance vary widely, but for a learner on $5,000 bike, my guess is around $700 premium and $1000 excess.

Be careful fixating on buying one bike of one person. There is a huge range to choose from, and much haggling to be had, so take your time. Best open yourself an account on trademe.co.nz (costs nothing) and start looking through bikes for sale in the central north island.

You will meet biker mates in hamilton very quickly (unless you are a hermit) and they can cart you around the country on missions looking at bikes etc - plenty of fun to be had there.


Steve

[YellowDog]

Some good advice from Steve.

I would say that at your age (no disrespect) insurance is a good idea as you are more likely to get upto stuff with mates. One mistake could take a lifetime to pay off.

Plus there's that big thing of being a foreigner. Has anyone explained the crazy turning left 'Give Way' rule? Some foreigners are unfortunate enough to learn about it when a bus hits the side of their car.

And if you forget to cancel your indicators, you could quickly become 'Road Kill'. It's a good rule in some situations (not most).

So far as Trademe goes, they will close your account if you use it from the UK. Perhaps you should just use it to browse what is available. If you would like any specific questions, just ask one of us to do it via a PM.

Good luck.

[mujambee]

Plus there's that big thing of being a foreigner. Has anyone explained the crazy turning left 'Give Way' rule? Some foreigners are unfortunate enough to learn about it when a bus hits the side of their car.


I've read a lot about it and still can't say I understand. I think I'll rent a car there and find me a good big bus that shows me how it goes. :)

[CookMySock]

I've read a lot about it and still can't say I understand.It's easy. If you are turning LEFT from a main road onto a side road, you have to give way to cars turning across in front of you. That's it.

Turning left, give way. Turning right, you have right of way.

If you are turning LEFT as above (you have right of way), and there is traffic following you, said following traffic will (quite legally) OVERTAKE you, and force your oncoming traffic to wait. Under these circumstances you MAY turn left while the oncoming traffic gives way to those overtaking you. (this is far more easily demonstrated than described.)

My guess is, it was implemented this way because of quite narrow roads. Perhaps the intent is to clear traffic quickly that is sitting stationary in the centre of the main road.

In any case, when you get here, have someone show you exactly how it all works, maybe by standing at an intersection and watching for a while. It can be confusing still, as many locals will flout the give way rule and push through the traffic anyway.


HTH
Steve

[mujambee]

It's easy. If you are turning LEFT from a main road onto a side road, you have to give way to cars turning across in front of you. That's it.

Turning left, give way. Turning right, you have right of way.

If you are turning LEFT as above (you have right of way), and there is traffic following you, said following traffic will (quite legally) OVERTAKE you, and force your oncoming traffic to wait. Under these circumstances you MAY turn left while the oncoming traffic gives way to those overtaking you. (this is far more easily demonstrated than described.)

My guess is, it was implemented this way because of quite narrow roads. Perhaps the intent is to clear traffic quickly that is sitting stationary in the centre of the main road.

In any case, when you get here, have someone show you exactly how it all works, maybe by standing at an intersection and watching for a while. It can be confusing still, as many locals will flout the give way rule and push through the traffic anyway.

HTH
Steve

I believe my problem with this is that here we ride on the right, so to understand it fully I have to reverse all I know to fit the "wrong" side of the road. It is easier said than done...

[CookMySock]

I believe my problem with this is that here we ride on the right, so to understand it fully I have to reverse all I know to fit the "wrong" side of the road. It is easier said than done...Yeah I see the problem there. Best to just get here and have a quiet ride around some back streets and get used to it slowly.

I was in Vanuatu (drive on the right) for a week, and I was in the front passengers seat through some roundabouts, and I bloody-near had to cover my eyes. :sweatdrop

You will be fine. Everyone gets it eventually, although occasionally there is a tourist horror story.

Steve

[YellowDog]

Your explanation was pretty good Steve. I always say that when you want to turn left off a main road, it is like being at a roundabout where you have to give way to traffic coming from the right. However in most European countries; firstly they don't drive on the left and secondaly in some you don't give way to traffic on the roundabout at all. The vehicle on the roundabout has priority and the one entering the roundabout has to give way.

Yes, you do have to eperience it to fully appreciate it.

[Fatt Max]

Good luck mate,

Been here 10 years myself from the UK and loving it, great country

Take care and enjoy the site