View Full Version : Garage anchor points for bike locks?
sunhuntin
22nd April 2009, 13:00
does anyone have anchor points in their garage to lock bike chains to? thinking of putting some in if i can buy the house i like, but not sure how to go about it? like, would i have to drill/chisel down into the existing concrete floor, or could i cement them in place on top of the floor?
any advice, and photos, warmly welcomed.
Radar
22nd April 2009, 13:16
Drill into concrete and use expandable bolts (cannot recall correct name for them). The anchor point will have a steel plate that covers the bolts so they cannot be unscrewed when the lock is in place.
Subike
22nd April 2009, 13:18
Use a chain around the wheels,
and have good contents insurance,
ask them what they concider to be reasonable security against theift
with an agreed price on the replacement value of your bike,
If they can get into your garage, then your bikes gone.
decent locks on your garage will slow them down,
but never stop a determand thief.
Insurance the best bet
laserracer
22nd April 2009, 13:18
Drilled mine ..then put in a dynabolt..i made up a piece of plate with a hole in the centre and a hoop welded to the top to put chain and padlock through..also have a motion sensor hooked up to a video camera with an on anf off switch so if we go away we can leave it on ...have some awesome footage of our cat trying to steal the bikes:rolleyes:....:lol:
sunhuntin
22nd April 2009, 13:29
Use a chain around the wheels,
and have good contents insurance,
ask them what they concider to be reasonable security against theift
with an agreed price on the replacement value of your bike,
If they can get into your garage, then your bikes gone.
decent locks on your garage will slow them down,
but never stop a determand thief.
Insurance the best bet
thats what im intending to do. but the house i like has a slightly dogdy history, so the more security the better. the last people that lived there [rented] were druggies and into all sorts. i always expected to have rocks thrown at me when i went past
im also eying a card access lock [like hotels have] for either the front door, or the main garage door.
its a kinda odd garage in that its double, but has a dividing wall. my plan is to put doors on the side by the driveway, completly wall in the other side, and then have an internal access door between the two spaces. the bike would be kept in the second space that is completely walled in. if that makes sense? see the pic, lol.
radar... good advice. is it easily enough done, or best to get someone who knows wtf they are doing?
BOGAR
22nd April 2009, 13:33
http://www.lockitt.com/lockdown.htm
(http://www.lockitt.com/lockdown.htm)
I use the abus floor anchor and it seams to work well and is easy to use. Shop around for prices though as you can get the same product quite cheep if your lucky.
BMWST?
22nd April 2009, 14:35
thats what im intending to do. but the house i like has a slightly dogdy history, so the more security the better. the last people that lived there [rented] were druggies and into all sorts. i always expected to have rocks thrown at me when i went past
im also eying a card access lock [like hotels have] for either the front door, or the main garage door.
its a kinda odd garage in that its double, but has a dividing wall. my plan is to put doors on the side by the driveway, completly wall in the other side, and then have an internal access door between the two spaces. the bike would be kept in the second space that is completely walled in. if that makes sense? see the pic, lol.
radar... good advice. is it easily enough done, or best to get someone who knows wtf they are doing?
easy,once you know what size hole you need(depends on systen so sort that out first just go to some hire place and rent a drill from hell,they will maybe have a drill bit too....
Subike
22nd April 2009, 14:42
easy,once you know what size hole you need(depends on systen so sort that out first just go to some hire place and rent a drill from hell,they will maybe have a drill bit too....
you can hire a concrete cutter that will cut a clean hole up to around 300mm.
tidier job, and allows you to put a decent footing onto a decent hardend steel loop that can sit flush with the floor.
If you are able to have your lock positioned below the floor level in a depression, that way a grinder or bolt cutters cannot get a bite on the lock.
always think of how and idiot would bust the lock, idiots look at the stupidest ways, which often work the best
pritch
22nd April 2009, 15:13
Oxford make a purpose designed item that you dynabolt to the floor.
Quite heavy grade steel but not overly large, but nor is it overly expensive.
Mine doesn't work very well 'cause it's still sitting in the box it came in.
One day...
BMWST?
22nd April 2009, 15:18
you can hire a concrete cutter that will cut a clean hole up to around 300mm.
tidier job, and allows you to put a decent footing onto a decent hardend steel loop that can sit flush with the floor.
If you are able to have your lock positioned below the floor level in a depression, that way a grinder or bolt cutters cannot get a bite on the lock.
always think of how and idiot would bust the lock, idiots look at the stupidest ways, which often work the best
I was thinking only of a single bolt or maybe a few of the types of locks shown in Bogars post.The lock itself protects/hides the bolt(s)
munterk6
22nd April 2009, 17:44
the best thing to do is prevent the scum from getting IN your garage...rent a nasty hungry pitbull for the period you are away for and park it up in front of the door. Then also have a pitbull chained to your bike in the garage...works for me :msn-wink:
Subike
22nd April 2009, 19:42
Dyna bolts into the floor, lol, believe my from my experiance of many years ago. Waste of time
Garage floor concrete is only 50mhp density and crumbles easy as opposed to 70mhp density for construction concrete.
sorry to say guys, but I could remove dyna bolts with your garden spade in the crn,
or even the heavy screwdriver sitting on your bench.
yeap weld the nut to the top of the bolt...... an 8-12" cresant would sheare the nut off the bolt and ......
There are so many tools in a garage that can be use to remove lock, chains bolts etc that are exposed or "bolted" to the structure,
the only lock that cannot be got at easily, is one in a countersunk hole, with no excess chain hanging to be easy to get at by tools
and dogs love a good rotton steak peppered with the right drugs to make them sleep.
and please dont bolt it down by the wheels alone, no
If I was after your bike, I would know what type it was and could bring a front or rear wheel with me to remove the bike.
A person entrering a garage to get a bike would be targeting it,
Just make it harder, its never impossibile.
mujambee
22nd April 2009, 22:31
Just make it harder, its never impossibile.
Your protection needs to be just slightly better than your neigbour's.
Pwalo
23rd April 2009, 10:08
I don't have a garage, but a carport next to my son's bedroom. I can place the SV between the metal uprights and put a chain around each wheel to a seperate pole. (And my house is a rear section, with only one access requiring you to go past lounge, dining room, and kitchen).
I'm sure that if someone was really determined they could cut through the poles, or remove each wheel, but if they're that determined...........
MaxCannon
23rd April 2009, 10:59
Is you want to bolt a plate to the floor use a masonry bit to drill the hole (you can borrow mine if you want).
Then use Dynabolts which expand as they are tightened.
You could also clean the concrete up and put a dab of liquid nail on the plate before you tighten the bolts.
Although someone could rip the plate out of ground it's easier for them to attack the chain.
Plus if they do pull out the ground anchor they can't wheel the bike as the chain will get stuck in the wheel.
Thieves are lazy - make it hard for them and they will go away.
Unless it's a professional steal to order outfit - in which case nothing will stop them short of armed guards stationed in the garage 24/7
sunhuntin
23rd April 2009, 13:03
only reason i want the plates and bolts and things is just for every day peace of mind. im picking, if anyone does come over to see the former occupants, theyll be lazy asses just looking for a cheap thrill, and wouldnt go to the bother of attacking chains to get at the bike. im intending to make it next to impossible for them to get into the garage in the first place. see the diagram, that internal door will either have a key card access, like a hotel, or a combination access. the rest of the internal wall will of course be covered both sides.
thanks everyone... will make a note of what been suggested and then look at the options when it comes to the crunch. :yes:
Pwalo
24th April 2009, 08:00
only reason i want the plates and bolts and things is just for every day peace of mind. im picking, if anyone does come over to see the former occupants, theyll be lazy asses just looking for a cheap thrill, and wouldnt go to the bother of attacking chains to get at the bike. im intending to make it next to impossible for them to get into the garage in the first place. see the diagram, that internal door will either have a key card access, like a hotel, or a combination access. the rest of the internal wall will of course be covered both sides.
thanks everyone... will make a note of what been suggested and then look at the options when it comes to the crunch. :yes:
Just don't forget you may need to get in there in a hurry one day, so don't make it too difficult to get access. Bugger if you had a fire or something, or even just lose your keys.
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