RGV150/TF125gearbox

[saxet]

Has anyone got exploded views of a RGV150 gearbox(gear clusters) and/or same for a TF125.Views of the clutch and primary gear would be very cool also.

[Skunk]

I have an exploded TF125. I think I know how it goes together even. Well, the assembled one seems work anyway. I couldn't find any diagrams.

[F5 Dave]

you won't find any info on the RGV150. Appears very similar to my old 6 speed TS125 components. Ask Bayden for his old one, I think I might sell my old one or you would be welcome to look at that. I assume you want to try shoe horn into the GP?

[saxet]

I've found that the TF/RGV box has similarities with myGP125 box..Wondering if I can mix and match parts to either get a 6 speed box or ,more importantly, reduce the primary gear ratio to make better use of my gearbox. EG. I can't find big enough rear sprocket to fit..need about a 68-70th. to get into top on short tracks.
This mix'n'match theory worked with DR/GS 125 box.

[quallman1234]

What front sprocket are you running?

Ive just bought a TF125 6 speeder for my bucket =).

[Skunk]

I have a six speed TF box in parts including the cses if you want to check it out.

[fi5hy]

Have a look on bike bandit .com

[Yow Ling]

Diesel Pig looked pretty hard at trying to get TF gears into a GP125 box , I think the GP cases are too narrow . I have a tf open at the moment with a 6 speed in it Ill Take some pics tonight and post them

[TZ350]

Diesel Pig looked pretty hard at trying to get TF gears into a GP125 box , I think the GP cases are too narrow . I have a tf open at the moment with a 6 speed in it Ill Take some pics tonight and post them

Yep a GP case is 12mm to narrow. Big job to fit TF 6 speed box. This we know.

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[koba]

Yep a GP case is 12mm to narrow. Big job to fit TF 6 speed box. This we know.

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Sounds like the RGV 'box is bout the same as the TF then as it looks about that ammount too wide.

I'm sure it could be done but whether or not it is worth it is the question.

Tex, I should be able to bring that clutch basket around tomorrow evening.

[diesel pig]

Diesel Pig looked pretty hard at trying to get TF gears into a GP125 box , I think the GP cases are too narrow . I have a tf open at the moment with a 6 speed in it Ill Take some pics tonight and post them

Oh that whole episode still upsets me:angry: I managed to beg a TS bottom end off Mr Ling*, Got it home pull it all apart thought to myself I am on to something here. I fitted the TS gearbox in one half of the GP cases it fitted perfectly the shafts,the drum,the rods all of it. So I then put the box into the other case again sweet as. I really thought I had cracked it, but oh no tried to put it all together and it stopped 12mm's short of mating up and it dawn on me those lazy bastards at suzuki, instead of designing the 6 speed to fit in the space of the 5 speeder they just made the whole box one gear wider! I will say it again the bastards!

*A epic in it's self, I was at ling's sponging off him as usual when I spied the TS bottom end and said to him "I want to take this TS motor pull it apart and muck around with it and I don't know when I will bring back" and get this Mr Ling say's "Yeah, OK" Damn he's hard work.:innocent:

[saxet]

I have a six speed TF box in parts including the cses if you want to check it out.

I'll have a look if I can just to satisfy my curiosity.Cheers


Oh that whole episode still upsets me:angry: I managed to beg a TS bottom end off Mr Ling*, Got it home pull it all apart thought to myself I am on to something here. I fitted the TS gearbox in one half of the GP cases it fitted perfectly the shafts,the drum,the rods all of it. So I then put the box into the other case again sweet as. I really thought I had cracked it, but oh no tried to put it all together and it stopped 12mm's short of mating up and it dawn on me those lazy bastards at suzuki, instead of designing the 6 speed to fit in the space of the 5 speeder they just made the whole box one gear wider! I will say it again the bastards!

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Thanks for the comments guys...shoulda kbown it's alresdy been tried.




Anyone looked into raising the primary drive ratio?

[Skunk]

I'll have a look if I can just to satisfy my curiosity.Cheers
Anyone looked into raising the primary drive ratio?
Oh, and I thought I could give you the TF output shaft to replace that GP one you gave Sketchy... But no. 6 Speed shaft.

I fink Dave's done a primary before...

[saxet]

Oh, and I thought I could give you the TF output shaft to replace that GP one you gave Sketchy... But no. 6 Speed shaft.

I fink Dave's done a primary before...

Koba gave me an output shaft from a RGV150 and it looks identical, accepts the GP cogs also, havn't checked thouroghly for length but that shaft seems the same. Can't say if the cogs are in the right position...should go check...

You goin to Slipway on Sun?

[saxet]

Sounds like the RGV 'box is bout the same as the TF then as it looks about that ammount too wide.

I'm sure it could be done but whether or not it is worth it is the question.

Tex, I should be able to bring that clutch basket around tomorrow evening.

Cool.


Well tried that shaft, whaddaya know, 12mm too long!:whistle:

[Skunk]

Koba gave me an output shaft from a RGV150 and it looks identical, accepts the GP cogs also, havn't checked thouroghly for length but that shaft seems the same. Can't say if the cogs are in the right position...should go check...

You goin to Slipway on Sun?
The circlip positions will be wrong I think. The AX100 one is the same deal.

And yep - the AX1R is a runner. Though I think it'll be a little slower at the top end now.

[F5 Dave]

So who will be the first to machine a 12mm centre section out of some plate?






Kidding, crank etc would be too much of an issue, but if you were clearly mad & good at lining things up you might extend the LHS of the casing.

[TZ350]

Better check the length and relavent position of the selector drum and its indent plunger too.

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[Rick 52]

I have just got myself a TS ER125 with a 6speed .
Why would you want to run the gearbox in a GP instead of running the TS ?

[speedpro]

disc valve

[Ned Kelly]

I have just got myself a TS ER125 with a 6speed .
Why would you want to run the gearbox in a GP instead of running the TS ?

Rick,
I also have a TS that we are currently playing with in the workshop. Going to run some comparisons between the G125 with a 24mm carb and what we can achieve with the TS100 or the GP100 engines. Bit of mucking around getting it into the RS, mounts new chamber etc.. Hopefully will have all done by the start of the new bucket year. Hopefully July.

Scott:woohoo:

[Rick 52]

Sounds good
I hope I get my new bike going for then I need to rebiuld the motor and build a chassis so lots to do but taking the head of the motor and all looks good so far :-)