For Sale: Shift Lights (Group Buy)

[k14]

Ok KBer's have I got a deal for you :niceone: , the guy that makes these in Auzzie is keen to sell a few of these to his cross the ditch counterparts and has got me to drum up some enthusiasm for a group buy. So here goes the sales pitch:


Shift Indicators


http://members.optushome.com.au/eclipzed/Duc748%20Instrument.jpg http://members.optushome.com.au/eclipzed/VFR400.jpg

Flyer...
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Flyer.pdf


VIDEO
VFR400, 74sec, 10MB
http://homepage.ntlworld.ie/smcguinness/shifti/Shift_I_01.avi
If you have trouble playing it, download the DivX 5.2.1 codec here...
http://www.divx.com/divx/download/


$150 NZD

Blue lights are +$4 each.
$5 for shipping within NZ


These have already been fitted too...
CBR250RR, CBR250R, CB250 Hornet, CBR400, VFR400, CBR600RR, CBR1000, FZR250, YZF-R6, ZXR250. ZX7R, DUC748, GSF600 Bandit, GSXR600, GSXR750, TLR1000.
They have also been fitted to cars!



Colours Combinations...



http://members.optushome.com.au/eclipzed/Colour%20Patterns%20Sm.jpg


LINKS:
You really don't have to read all the material... a lot of people install it, set the RPM range and leave it. But if you want to tweak and play with all the options, tweak away :P

User Manual...
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20User%20Manual.pdf
Advanced Settings Manual...
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Advanced%20Settings.pdf
Quick Reference Guide...
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Quick%20Reference%20Guide.pdf
Shift-I Cutouts
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Cutouts.pdf
Installation Manual…
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Installation%20Manual.pdf
CBR250RR supplementary Installation Manual…
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Fitment%20Guide%20-%20CBR250RRL.pdf
FAQs…
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20FAQs.pdf
Troubleshooting…
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Troubleshooting.pdf
Flyer…
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Flyer.pdf
Movie of the different display modes... http://www.users.on.net/~p.h.a.t/ShiftI_Modes.avi
Ducati 748 http://users.tpg.com.au/jusm/movie.wmv


How do I get one?

Send me a PM

Name: (full)
Shift-I Shape: (curved or straight)
Light Colours: (G=Green, A=Amber, R=Red, B=Blue, ie. GGAAARR)
Delivery Address:
Model:
Bike Year:


Repeat above for more than one unit.

I'II send you a PM back confirming all the order details and price , along with the necessary payment info.

Come on people, these are seriously awesome and add heaps of BLING factor to your bike :niceone:. I got mine last week and can't keep my eyes off it.

PM me your orders and when there are 5 confirmed orders I will send off an order to the guy that makes them (in auzzie) and he will send them over. After 5 people have ordered and paid expect 7-10 days for the arrival of the shift light.

If there are any questions then either ask in this thread or PM me.

:D

[Eclipze]

Hey all... I'm the guy in Oz manufacturing these :spudwave:. Been chatting to k14 for a while now, through the cbr250 forum. After he bought one, he has been talking to me about getting a group deal for you guys. So we've worked out how to get a group buy bargin, where I'II ship 5 units at a time to him :cool:. k14 will also organise everything and sort you out for hooking it up, and he'll have my support. So if you need any info, help with installing, or wire colours etc... let us know!

Just a note... They are easy to hook up, but if your not keen on hooking it up, you can take them to a mechanic to wire up, or... k14 knows his stuff, I reckon an offer of $20 for his time and he'd sort you out :yeah: That'd also save you postage cost, and be cheaper than a mechanic!

;)

[John]

you are both gods, and I love you!

Yay, now I can show off the purty lights to girls... who will automaticly think I'm large.

Cheers!

[Motu]

Do you do them in black?

[Sensei]

Look very Kool . GSXR1000's have them standard. Have used mine twice
since owning bike just something else to take your mind of the job of riding I feel . But each to their own .
SENSEI

[k14]

Look very Kool . GSXR1000's have them standard. Have used mine twice
since owning bike just something else to take your mind of the job of riding I feel . But each to their own .
SENSEI

Yeah i think the gixxer's have only one light that goes on when the revs reach a certain limit. With these ones the lights gradually light up (all adjustable of course) and then when it reaches the top they all flash.

[Eclipze]

It was actually designed as a performance based indicator. Many people have bough one just for the bling factor though :)

I've sold a few to track riders, using it for both track work and as a training tool... its original intent. Consider it more of a replacement for you tacho. If your doing some serious riding, you can't concentrate on reading your tacho. Some people say they don't read it anyway, but it is useful information of benefit... particularly for consistency, if you can see it.

It replaces the tacho by showing you the range of interest. It was designed with only 7 lights for a reason. Any more, and you start having trouble seeing how many are on, any less, and its not as useful. So if you set the first light to come on a 6,000rpm... anything below that and you know your off engine pace. When you've got one or two lights on, you know your at the start of you power curve... if your blipping down gears, this is where you want to be. If you blipping down too fast, your going to get too many lights reading and your not optimally changing down at the right time... your loading up the rear tyre with different engine braking loads (not consistent). If your mid to exiting a corner, you can tell what pace your doing... bit slower/faster etc.

Straight line shifting and launch control is also a primary benefit. Dragsters always have shift lights for this purpose. I get a few people that say they know when to change, but I can guarantee they aren't consistent. Ever seen a 600 or 750 take a litre bike from standing start... yet they "just got a bad takeoff"! In the heat of the moment, the adrenalin clouds your concentration... I've seen it, people over rev the engine, because they are pushing it harder - the engine does what it does, despite the emotion wanting to push it. If your been on the track, particularly trying to get past a thumping twin... I shift with the shift lights, when in the mix, I can't hear the engine like I usually do to change at the same point, and I hate losing it on the exit after going around the outside.

When on track, I set the range differently than road. I also find I might make slight adjustments to where I shift... adjust it be one or two hundred rpm, and my shift point automatically changes.

Consistency is important for track riding. There is a reason why manufacturers are including shift lights with bike... there is a reason why shift lights are available for sale. This one provides the extra info, and has a wide display with a wide viewing angle suited for motorbikes. Particularly as we aren't always directly in front of the display like a car. I don't watch the shift lights... it takes a couple of weeks of practice, but you can read it in your periperhal vision, I leave my eyes on where I'm going 8). Valentino uses a shift light... and you might notice a couple of F1 cars at the Melbourne grand prix had a very similar shift light setup sitting behind the wheel.

I didn't really want to post as a sales pitch or anything... I just want to show that there is more to the blinking lights than just bling... which most people see from face value.

:D

[Rainbow Wizard]

Hey all... I'm the guy in Oz manufacturing these ;)
So can you offer that option?

[BNZ]

Ive had one for the last 4 months and love it. 20 minute job to wire up and callibrate :niceone: A few of the KB members from wellies have already had a look at mine, but if you havnt and would like to have a look at one in the flesh before buying PM me and this can be arranged. Trust me if you knew how much time and money Tony has invested in this you would not hesitate as you know how quality the product is. :yeah: Oh yeah, and he is an eletrical genius! :banana:

[k14]

So can you offer that option?

No sorry, the shift-i cannot do this and sadly he doesn't have anything for sale that will.

Feel free to buy a shift-i though, you won't be dissapointed.

[k14]

I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't caused more interest. Only had 1 order so far from here and we need 5 before the first shipment comes in.

He has sold over 70 of these so far and is currently in negotiation with some retailers so this price won't last for long. If you miss out now the price will atleast double, and even at that price it would still be a bargain. Many of the alternates are inferior and are alot more expensive.

Here is another pic of the straight and curved ones.
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/ShiftI_Perspective.jpg

Feel free to ask any questions. Check out the documentation and vids aswell. If you want to check it out in action ZXR250 has already said he will show anyone in wellington (thanks man) and I can show anyone in chch. Also saslex will soon have one on his VFR up in auck and he can demonstrate to anyone who wants to check it out.

:done:

[Suney]

I would really like one but for around $200 a pop for a blue/red one incl shipping is a bit steep for me at the moment but if I had the money I would def buy one.

[Repsol_NSR]

would this suitable for mc21 nsr250 ? thanks.

[BNZ]

would this suitable for mc21 nsr250 ? thanks.

One of the docos (shift-i cutouts) has the exact sizing. Print that and check it against the curve of your tacho. As long as its got power going into the back of the tacho I cant see why not. Eclipze can give you a more definate answer.....

[limmy]

Is that $150 nz dollars?

[Eclipze]

I've scoured the net looking for a NSR electrical schematic... couldn't find one :confused: Must be a Japanesse thing :P

If you have one... let me know, I'd like a look through.

I have one guy coming this week... he already has one on his CBR600F4i, but wants another for his NSR250 MC21 SE (1992) track bike. So I should be able to give a definite when he installs it, but I expect it won't be a problem. A schematic will certainly help to confirm.

Its also possible to connect it to the low side of the coils... but not something I can guarantee... as it has only been tested on a CBR250RR and a Pergeot rally car (both worked perfectly). So there is always this potential backup option too! But I won't leave you high and dry... and have yet another emergency backup option, which will make it run on even a lawn mower :P

Suney... for you mate, you can have that blue/red one for $175 delivered, though $200 would always be appreciated :niceone: He hee...

Prices are in NZ$!!!

:)

[BNZ]

There will now be one on demo at the Great KB Taupo track day :2thumbsup

[k14]

And I should have mine on demo at the race meeting at taupo on the 3rd of april.

[gav]

Hmmm, does look good, don't know if it will fit my bike though....

[Eclipze]

Hmmm, does look good, don't know if it will fit my bike though....
Ask and ye shall receive! Check for yourself... 1:1 Shift-I Cutouts
http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Cutouts.pdf

;)

[Eclipze]

you getting a 404 error there eclipse so here
Thanks mate :niceone:

[250learna]

i want one but m just geting a bike wont have money for a while

[BNZ]

i want one but m just geting a bike wont have money for a while

Dont leave it too long as price will be getting :doobey:

[onearmedbandit]

K14, I'm keen. I'll check out the options and PM you.

[John]

K14, I'm keen. I'll check out the options and PM you.

Awesome, K14 how many orders does that bring us upto?

I feel like an excited schoolboy after I realised what 'IT' was for. :yeah:

[k14]

Yeah sorry John, I have been a bit slack. I have only recieved 2 orders now and we were wanting 4 or 5 before I would place the order. So come on kb'ers, get off your arses and order some more.

[Eclipze]

Hi All...

I'm almost out of those that can be customised with you own colour pattern, but otherwise have stock of two standard colour patterns.

These are very cheap for what they are, direct from the manufacturer, otherwise they would be close to double the cost for retail.

Any questions at all, whether it be fitment or how to use these, please let me know. Only requires 3 wires at the back of the instrument. Most people install themselves, and I can provide snap on wire clips for free if requested. A few people have also taken it to their mechanic to install too, but most of the time is just taking the fairing off.

I do provide assistance for fitment, and provide wire colours for any bike I can find the wiring diagram. I have a fair list of wire colours and wiring diagram now too :msn-wink:

I'm not some giant company trying to flog these... this was a hobby project that turned professional product, and I'm only 60% of the way to recovering the project costs. Not even close to making any profit.

When I get myself into gear and spend the dollars to get the flashy packaging etc... then they will be sold retail by someone else, at a retail price. I have to recover the investment somehow at some stage :no:

I can ship to NZ, whether it be one or more in the package. They have already been sold to the NZ, US, Ireland, UK & France.

If anyone knows someone that might be interested, I'd appreciate it if you fowarded them a link :yes:

[sAsLEX]

ok finally got off my lazy arse and got round to putting mine on! Took all of an hour that included riding to a mates to get a soldering iron as I had lost mine!

Have only gone to uni a couple of times with it so far and it does work quite well, can ¨see" it without looking directly at it, especially when they all flash for shifting!!

[Eclipze]

For reference, to ship one direct to yourself in NZ... postage is AU$16 and that includes insurance.

A GGGGAAR shipped would be a total of AU$151 (~NZ$162)
A BBBBAAR shipped would be a total of AU$167 (~NZ$179)

I can post more than one in a box too, to save on shipping costs.

If your a purist and think its only about bling, read this... Usage Guide (http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Usage%20Guide.pdf ) :msn-wink:

They are quite easy to fit, most of the time is taken in removing the fairing or windscreen. As for which wire to connect to, in most cases I can tell you which wire colours you need. I also have wire snap on clips for those that don't want to solder, and for those with ZXR250's, I can provide o-ring terminals which you screw on (fitment guide also available for the ZXR250).

Any questions at all... your welcome to email me at ecliptech AT optusnet.com.au :niceone:

[Coyote]

Ah fuck! These again? Just when I had forgotten about them and saved myself 160 bucks!

Once I actually get the bike going, I might buy a set

[Coyote]

This group deal still on?

[scumdog]

I thought the factory rev-limiter was all you needed? :msn-wink: :laugh:

[Coyote]

I thought the factory rev-limiter was all you needed? :msn-wink: :laugh:
Rev-limiter didn't stop the engine going past 21000 :crazy:

[k14]

Not really, there hasn't been enough interest for it. But there can still be some bought in if enough people show interest.

[Eclipze]

I can still offer the group deal through k14 :niceone:, but only in batches of 5 or more.

Oh and alarumba... just to make things even more tempting, I'm just waiting on some bullet connectors to find a size that fits the CBR250's tacho wire, and I'II have a solution you can bolt on and plug in (no soldering) :devil2:

[Syphon_Life]

Hey add an r1 to that list of bikes fitted to!!

got speeding fine today fuck

[Badcat]

Hey all... I'm the guy in Oz manufacturing these :spudwave:. Been chatting to k14 for a while now, through the cbr250 forum. After he bought one, he has been talking to me about getting a group deal for you guys. So we've worked out how to get a group buy bargin, where I'II ship 5 units at a time to him :cool:. k14 will also organise everything and sort you out for hooking it up, and he'll have my support. So if you need any info, help with installing, or wire colours etc... let us know!

Just a note... They are easy to hook up, but if your not keen on hooking it up, you can take them to a mechanic to wire up, or... k14 knows his stuff, I reckon an offer of $20 for his time and he'd sort you out :yeah: That'd also save you postage cost, and be cheaper than a mechanic!

;)

hi - i'm thinking of running one instead of a tach.
do i need a tach to set it up?
it will be on a 4 stroke big single.

[Eclipze]

Badcat... most likely :yes:

We 'might' need a resistor between the tacho signal and ignition to simulate the instrument on the other end for the signal to come through perfect. I can fit that for you on the wires, so it can easily be removed at a later time :niceone:.

[Badcat]

Badcat... most likely :yes:

We 'might' need a resistor between the tacho signal and ignition to simulate the instrument on the other end for the signal to come through perfect. I can fit that for you on the wires, so it can easily be removed at a later time :niceone:.

ok - so do i need to find 4 others?

k

[Eclipze]

ok - so do i need to find 4 others?

You can order anytime...

Just send me an email to ecliptech AT optusnet.com.au with the following info...

Name: <full>
Forum Name: Badcat
Shift-I Shape: <curved or straight>
Light Colours: <G=Green, A=Amber, R=Red, B=Blue, ie. GGAAARR>
Extras: <Connector +$10>
Delivery Address:
Bike Model:
Bike Year:

I'II send you back an email confirming the order, price and date of dispatch. You'll also get a convenient payment request from Paypal. In case your not yet registered with Paypal (which is free), the email will have all the info you need.

Any questions you have either now, when fitting or using... email me anytime.

[Coyote]

Oh and alarumba... just to make things even more tempting, I'm just waiting on some bullet connectors to find a size that fits the CBR250's tacho wire, and I'II have a solution you can bolt on and plug in (no soldering) :devil2:
Bastard!!!!

I'll have the money soon enough, hopefully

[Badcat]

excellent- it will be a couple of weeks away yet
still planning the instruments so will email you.
thanks for your prompt reply...

ken

[Coyote]

Since your the manufacturer, can you develop a gold or silver version, instead of the black plastic? It'll give it more Bling appeal :-p

[Eclipze]

I actually investigated the possibility of getting them coated with a metal deposition process, which would give them a durable aluminium finish. I'd have to get a heap done to make it worth while, and bump the price right up. The finish of the plastic is really nice though, as its an etched roughness (not smooth) and quite durable.

I wasn't originally going to have blue lights. due to their cost, but decided that I wasn't in enough debt and got the limit of my credit card extended... :yes:

[wkid_one]

Question - why do you need a light to tell you when to shift?

I had one on the R1 - waste of fecken time......unless of course you really want to save 10 one thous of a sec on the commute in to work!

[Hitcher]

Buy a bike with some stump-pulling torque and save the Christmas tree lights for the other poofs to play with. Rippling coloured lights that nobody else can see is a serious onanism. I'm surprised they don't come in pink or pastel shades.

[onearmedbandit]

Question - why do you need a light to tell you when to shift?

I had one on the R1 - waste of fecken time......unless of course you really want to save 10 one thous of a sec on the commute in to work!

Having three different colours allows you to set them to illuminate at different rev ranges allowing a wide range of uses. These are not just a shift light for maximum revs.

[Hitcher]

And it appears there are some thin-skinned, ghey, underpowered sportsbike riders with no sense of humour amongst us.

[Eclipze]

Question - why do you need a light to tell you when to shift?
I had one on the R1 - waste of fecken time......unless of course you really want to save 10 one thous of a sec on the commute in to work!
All a shift light like on your R1 did is tell you when to shift.
Read this one pager... Usage Guide (http://members.optushome.com.au/ecliptech/Shift-I%20Usage%20Guide.pdf)

[Eclipze]

Buy a bike with some stump-pulling torque and save the Christmas tree lights for the other poofs to play with. Rippling coloured lights that nobody else can see is a serious onanism. I'm surprised they don't come in pink or pastel shades.
:laugh:

There was actually someone that requested some light to be a mixed blue/red to give a weird purple effect... kinda looked good, but after reading that I'm not about to post a pic he hee...

Ahh..well. I've got plenty of trackriders, a rally driver and even a top professional using it now, but I enjoy a good taunt every now and then :laugh:

[wkid_one]

Funnily enough I prefer to watch the corner, my braking point, my turn in point, my roll off point, and my apex - not a fucken light show on my bikes dash board!

[Eclipze]

Funnily enough I prefer to watch the corner, my braking point, my turn in point, my roll off point, and my apex - not a fucken light show on my bikes dash board!
Geesh... lighten up!

I don't think you quite understand the purpose for it. It's not some light show you stare at! It replaces the tacho which you can't see while "watch the corner, my braking point, my turn in point, my roll off point, and my apex" with something you CAN see in your periperal vision, and only the information (section of RPM) you need to know about.

I bet you don't use the tacho at the moment... yet its information of benefit that can improve your riding. You just haven't been able to use it. Check out Valentinos bike and the F1 cars, cos they use these types of display too!

So as you say, its your preference not to use such devices and I can respect that. I would appreciate it though if your comments/critisisms are more constructive than a sterotype comment.

:msn-wink:

[Badcat]

Funnily enough I prefer to watch the corner, my braking point, my turn in point, my roll off point, and my apex - not a fucken light show on my bikes dash board!

obviously, you're just too good a rider for all this modern trickery then...
thanks for the benefit of your supreme wisdom!
we all feel so inadequate after this enlightenment.

[k14]

And it appears there are some thin-skinned, ghey, underpowered sportsbike riders with no sense of humour amongst us.

yep :D better than being a fat, thick skinnned, overpowered tourer rider.

p.s. isnt "ghey" spelt gay?? :killingme

[onearmedbandit]

Oh wkid_one, I only wish I was as well versed as you obviously are in bike control. Damn, after riding for only 18yrs I should realise something like this has no pratical use. Still, put me down for a set.

[BNZ]

Question - why do you need a light to tell you when to shift?

I had one on the R1 - waste of fecken time......unless of course you really want to save 10 one thous of a sec on the commute in to work!

Because on a 250 they not only make a fuck load of noise, but also take quite a long time to reach the red line. 15000rpm sounds quite similar to 20000rpm when you are concentrating on the road and not the engine! To be able to give it death and never look at your tacho is a great thing on a 250. You dont need to look at the light to know when to shift, it is bright enough in yout peripheral vision.

[Coyote]

Because on a 250 they not only make a fuck load of noise, but also take quite a long time to reach the red line. 15000rpm sounds quite similar to 20000rpm when you are concentrating on the road and not the engine! To be able to give it death and never look at your tacho is a great thing on a 250. You dont need to look at the light to know when to shift, it is bright enough in yout peripheral vision.
Damn right. One of these will be very handy whilst on the track

[Kickaha]

Oh wkid_one, I only wish I was as well versed as you obviously are in bike control.

He's a riding God mate :msn-wink:

[gav]

Actually wikd one how is your R1 these days? :killingme

[wkid_one]

One more thing to concentrate on is exactly what we all need!

R1 is good!

[Eclipze]

One more thing to concentrate on is exactly what we all need!
R1 is good!
:blink: Ho hum.... there is always one.

Yeah true, concentration is needed... but thats only true when its new. When you first ever jumped on a bike, you would be trying to remember which lever is the clutch and which the the brake. Hard to believe now, but sure enough everything new is going to draw your attention until its familiar. After that, its useful!

You seem to have a lot to say on the topic... not sure why your perspective is weighted so much to one side though!

:shifty:

You obviously have a lot to say, so I thought we should get to know each other. I'm currently riding a CBR250RR, have been for the last 3 years. Racked up a fair bit of saddle time too, as I commute. Lost count of just how many track days I've done, but I'm told my technique is of great form and super smooth. I've even managed to draft and overtake a CBR400 down the main straight of Philip Island. I've also complete level 1, level 2 and even level 3 of the Australian Superbike School - have the textbooks too! Would like to do the last one, level 4, but I need better suspension to push it that bit more.

Here is a pic of me... that was taken about 3 weeks ago at Philip Island. It was going through the corner "Siberia"... know it well. Gas out of the previous corner, flick the butt to the other side, hit the brakes slightly and click up a gear, turn in at my fav spot nice and deep.

http://members.optushome.com.au/eclipzed/05y-04m-07d%20-%20Siberia%201small.jpg

Actually... I skipped a bit... I only gas it enough to get me to the 6th light, unless the track temp is high enough to brake that little bit harder ;). Before I sight my next visual cue to get my line, I'm usually tipping the 2nd light (12,000rpm). Anymore, and I know I'II have to tighten my line or risk running the turn exit ripple at WOT. Guess thats why I'm smooth and consisent, but also have that extra information (reference point) to vary my entry speed as required.

I've also got a good friend I talk to regularly who is an ex-superbike racer too, and he now teaches the art!! Great person to discuss technique and bounce ideas off for rider instrumentation - he has the background for the rider science and I have 2 degrees in electronics.

So now you... you've got an R1 do you?? Taken it to the track a few times? Your profile says "Manx TT by Sega"... forgive my ignorance, but it kinda sounds like your favourite Sega game than a bike. Litre bikes certainly have a lot of power, can get you unstuck pretty easy without good concentration. If you like, I might be able to introduce you to that riding teacher I know to help with any concentration problems your experiencing...

:devil2:

[wkid_one]

So quick to jump in - yet, as always - fucken wrong! For starters - my posts only total 4 sentences - yours is a fucken book - and more importantly, completely off target you gherkin.

Interesting argument - yes I too have done more track times than I can remember - yet you all seem to be missing the point. DID YOU READ MY POST


unless of course you really want to save 10 one thous of a sec on the commute in to work!

I am not talking about track applications you half reader...

You seem to all be comparing this 'toy' with the GP and F1 equivalent - yet, how often in real road riding situations does it matter if you are 250rpm early or late in changing gear? How often?

Track applications - yes no doubt - if you are chasing hundreds and thousandths of a second improvement in your time - and you have the time to practice and test on the track to understand where and when to change at the appropriate revs.

For road riding - this is an arbitrary piece of crap occupying concentration (which isn't unlimited) - as unlike the track, there are many more variables that affect optimum speed and gearing....eg, unknown/unexpected decreasing radius corners

Oh and Elipze, sorry you are obviously a biking legend (you tosser - sif you were really that good - you wouldn't see the need to go in to such length to tell us about it) - but there are a lot of newbie riders on here that will follow peoples lead.....and unfortunately their concentration is limited - and this is one distraction that they can most likely do without.

PS: Poor sales technique! Ciao

[onearmedbandit]

Ok it could be dangerous to newbies, so its not a good idea. Forget about experienced riders that could find something like this useful, it could be dangerous to newbies. Lets also forget that this device is not only a max rev indicator, but can be programed to indivate any rev range. So it could be used to indicate where peak torque is, where an ideal shift point below max revs is, etc.

[Coyote]

I'm a newbie to the track, but I could see one of these being a big help for me. It would be easier seeing the lights under your eye instead of looking at the dash all the time

Plus, seeing all the lights might stop me from blowing up the engine

[BNZ]

You seem to all be comparing this 'toy' with the GP and F1 equivalent - yet, how often in real road riding situations does it matter if you are 250rpm early or late in changing gear? How often?



Because on a 250 they not only make a fuck load of noise, but also take quite a long time to reach the red line. 15000rpm sounds quite similar to 20000rpm


Little bit more than 250rpm.... Sure it may be of no use riding through traffic but come on, everyone lets loose on the road every now and then. I generally turn mine off around town and for open road cruising (just touch both buttons and shes gone) and then flick it on when I feel that I want to ride a bit harder. I also have the rev range set a bit lower for the road as I have no need to prematurely end my engines life.

There may be little or no use for some people, but doesnt mean that there isnt a great use for others.

[Eclipze]

Ha haa... temper temper! :laugh:

Gee... I had a newbie thank me, because it helped them understand when to change gear. Had another that hadn't used the whole rev range of a 250, and didn't realise until they were trying to ride it above 14k (shifting too soon). I had yet another newbie that uses it in certain gear as a type of speed alert, because drifting above the speed limit is so easy.

I seriously think your a little narrow in your thinking there! It's not something everyone will use, want or need.

You should perhaps consider being being a little more reserved in your opinion for something you haven't even seen or used yourself!!! Consider the opinion of those that do have one!


:msn-wink:

[Coyote]

Had another that hadn't used the whole rev range of a 250, and didn't realise until they were trying to ride it above 14k (shifting too soon).

I didn't stray under 14k for too long at the track last Saturday :-p

[scumdog]

p.s. isnt "ghey" spelt gay?? :killingme

Not on this site matey-flick, it rank up there with spelling garage as "gargre".

Once you get the hang of it gargre and ghey flow naturally off the keyboard... :D

[Syphon_Life]

best money i ever spent eclipse :)

just let the harley riders stick to their chrome and use the rest of
their money on swappa crates :ride:

[Eclipze]

Prices are going up next month.

FYI... Only have 4 of the curved ones left now that can be customised.
I do have 20+ of the curved already built with GGGGAAR & BBBBBRR.
Straight versions I still have plenty.

:)

[John]

Prices are going up next month.

FYI... Only have 4 of the curved ones left now that can be customised.
I do have 20+ of the curved already built with GGGGAAR & BBBBBRR.
Straight versions I still have plenty.

:)
Are these still in AU?

[Eclipze]

I'm in AU, but ship anywhere.
A quick scroll through, I count 7 sent to NZ already :msn-wink:

[John]

Guess you do paypal? how much is the shipping on top of the units?

[Eclipze]

AU$17 (~NZ$18.20), which includes postal insurance.
I don't charge for handling, just postage.

I can also ship more than one in a box, so you can split the costs with others if your interested.

Payment is by Paypal, registration is free.

[TLDV8]

I am a happy buyer,great unit :niceone:

http://photos.imageevent.com/tldv8/eclipze/websize/MeLikey.JPG

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/manurewa/YellowPeril1.jpg

The unit is easy to see without being a distraction and took me personally only a half day or less to get used to ...one thing i found with the way i have it set..any more than 3 LED's showing in the upper gears and i am speeding,something i simply don't notice as much relying on the speedometer which in some cases is not clear with varying light.

[sAsLEX]

Funny place to put it, did it not fit on top of the taco???

Have mine sitting right on top of the taco, so the needle actually matches the lights, by chance!

Have mine on the single light then all flash setting and used it proper for the first time in the weekend, MR also had a quick play with it and thought it would be useful for the track.

[.produKt]

Really old thread now, but shit i just paid 230$ for the Shift-i =\

Tis great for keeping your eyes on the road ;)