Db1k 10 sbc [Archive] - Page 2

cooneyr

11th January 2010, 09:37

Bugger dude. Thats a lot of work to go to, to then have to pull the pin at the last minute. Between you and Racing Dave we would have had a pair of NXR's. Long way to ride the 125 though. If we had a prize giving I'm sure that would have been worth something!

I'm really enjoying the little XLR125. It is supprising how good the cheap arse suspension really is. I'm sure I've bottomed the suspension heaps but it does it so nicely that I generally dont notice when standing.

Cheers R

.chris

11th January 2010, 10:29

Is anyone using an excuse for not doing the sbc? I may have the bike for you.
160cc, not sure of the brand, no model numbers on it. Think it may be a zongshen GY160.
Has done 1300km, geared super low, would be an excellent candidate for someone with a pention for making the db1k much much harder than the should be, which to me sounds like you bunch :whistle:

Please note the spattering of snow on the hills, this is Mt Dobson about 10km from Fairlie, might be worth bringing some warmish gear guys.

Waihou Thumper

11th January 2010, 10:51

Think it may be a zongshen GY160.
Has done 1300km, geared super low, would be an excellent candidate for someone with a pention for making the db1k much much harder than the should be, which to me sounds like you bunch.

That looks like a mighty fine candidate for the ride...:)

Please note the spattering of snow on the hills, this is Mt Dobson about 10km from Fairlie, might be worth bringing some warmish gear guys. Awesome! Four seasons in one day:) Looking forward to tenting it!

cooneyr

11th January 2010, 11:04

Sorry 125cc or less. 160cc even with low gearing is way to grunty ;) Most of us will be doing 80kph max (except for a certain rider on a KDX125 which is way to easy :bleh:)

Cheers R

.chris

11th January 2010, 12:49

Sorry 125cc or less. 160cc even with low gearing is way to grunty ;) Most of us will be doing 80kph max (except for a certain rider on a KDX125 which is way to easy :bleh:)

Cheers R

Damn I wish it was a power to weight ratio not based off cc, as I am pretty sure this one is just a tiny bit above the power to weight ratio required for forward movement.

cooneyr

11th January 2010, 14:15

.chris

11th January 2010, 18:08

Your welcome to leave the 690 behind and tag along on the 160. Don't worry I'm just as nutts - leaving a perfectly good 950 S behind to ride the XLR 125.

My brother is riding a 1972 Yammha LT2 100 smoker. I bet you it goes slower than the 160 ;)

Cheers R

Sounds tempting, but I did ride the 690 all the way down here, figure I might as well use it.
But saying that, any other seat feels quite comfortable compared to the 690, but I do have a plan for that. I just hope it arrives in time.

cooneyr

13th January 2010, 19:05

I've just come up with a name for the "team" that is my brother, Skinny_birdman, Zerax and I - Team FOGS - Flat Out Going Slow ;) What do you fella's reckon.

Cheers R

junkmanjoe

13th January 2010, 19:10

sounds like something a south islander would come up with,,,,,us north islanders would do a better job.....

JMJ

Woodman

13th January 2010, 19:20

Damn I wish it was a power to weight ratio not based off cc, as I am pretty sure this one is just a tiny bit above the power to weight ratio required for forward movement.

If it was power to weight ratio based my klr would be eligible.

topo

13th January 2010, 19:24

What time are you SBC Lads deparing Fairlie? still planning on the friday night?

cooneyr

14th January 2010, 06:43

sounds like something a south islander would come up with,,,,,us north islanders would do a better job.....

JMJ

:bleh:

What time are you SBC Lads deparing Fairlie? still planning on the friday night?

Yep "Team FOGS" (well me really) are planning on leaving at 8pm on Friday from the BBQ.

Cheers R

El scooto

14th January 2010, 18:08

'Team FOGS' sounds as good as any. Just plain nutts would have done. Have been getting excited/nervous the last couple of days. The SBC seemed like a good idea a year ago but on the eve of setting off I'm slightly more aprehensive. Shit this is actually going to happen! Should be a good challenge, not holding high hopes for success but will be a reason to celebrate if we do it!!

Bike is as ready as it's ever going to be. Lights even work now!! Fingers cross it dosen't luch itself, well at least for the first couple of hours :)

Cheers

junkmanjoe

14th January 2010, 19:36

Hay you guys have a blast this weekend. ride safe and enjoy the ride.

im sad i could not make it this time... but ill be there next weekend..................

JMJ

Skinny_Birdman

15th January 2010, 08:38

I've just come up with a name for the "team" that is my brother, Skinny_birdman, Zerax and I - Team FOGS - Flat Out Going Slow ;) What do you fella's reckon.

Cheers R

Well:
S-kinny
E-l Scooto
C-ooneyR
Z-erax

Team SECZ? Perhaps FOGS was better after all.......

See yers down there.

Cheers
A

cooneyr

15th January 2010, 10:14

Your warped dude! Knowing you lot I much prefer FOGS. See you down south ;)

Cheers R

Skinny_Birdman

17th January 2010, 14:22

Well, we did it! Of the 4 riders who set out at 8:15pm on Friday night, Zeerax and I finished at 6:30pm on Saturday. CooneyR and El Scooto had a somewhat um, interesting time, which they can elaborate on, and weren't able to complete the route.
I am a bit pushed for time, but I would quickly like to thank:
Zeerax, for being an amiable companion, navigator par exellence and for waiting around for me despite having a significantly better chance of finishing alone;
CooneyR and Mrs CooneyR for the gigantic task of setting up what is an awesome adventure route, for coordinating the Dusty Butt as a whole, and for the ride home;
El Scooto for coming up with this crazy scheme, and for sorting the fuel;
Ruralman for arranging the fuel at Waipori. (I owe somebody money for this - just let me know);
Transalper for transporting my bike down, (and hopefully back);
HelenofTroy for unwittingly arranging my accomodation;
and finally my poor, abused XLR for going the distance. She is now for sale, if anyone is interested in having a go next year.

I wouldn't say it was fun the whole way, and I am really sore today, but there were some cool sections, and now I would just like to (well, sleep first, but then) ride the route over a few days and enjoy the amazing scenery and nice roads.

Cheers
A

warewolf

17th January 2010, 14:46

Well done!! :clap:

Racing Dave

17th January 2010, 14:54

Yes, indeed, good effort.

My ride finished early, and I know some of you are aware of the reason. Dunedin's rescue helicopter picked me up from just short of the Serpentine Church, after a minor fall, but with a dislocated shoulder. Dave Kuriger was on the scene immediately, and stayed to help. All fixed quickly in the hospital, with nothing broken, and I was home in Chch before 9 pm.

Rescue beacon value? Priceless.

Up till then, I was really enjoying the ride. With my bike set up for standing, and a sheepskin for sitting, I was feeling good. My first tank of gas lasted till just 25 km short of Lawrence, when I tipped in my spare petrol. After that the day warmed up, till it was just lovely across the road to Lake Onslow.

Dave K just called past on his way home, and reported that even losing an hour and a half looking after me, he was back in Fairlie by midnight, after a 5 am start. Another good effort.

Next year? Try again...

Racing Dave

17th January 2010, 14:59

As an aside, will any of the front four admit to falling on Meyers Pass? Only, it looked from the marks on the road that at least two had. Any admissions of guilt?

buggsubique

17th January 2010, 16:27

Yes, indeed, good effort.

My ride finished early, and I know some of you are aware of the reason. Dunedin's rescue helicopter picked me up from just short of the Serpentine Church, after a minor fall, but with a dislocated shoulder. Dave Kuriger was on the scene immediately, and stayed to help. All fixed quickly in the hospital, with nothing broken, and I was home in Chch before 9 pm.

Rescue beacon value? Priceless.

Faark, glad to hear it worked out on the safety side for you RD. How long from activation to the whirlybird being on site? Just goes to show that it can happen to any bugger. Might go hire me one for Zerax's and my Molesworth / Rainbow loop next Sunday...

_Shrek_

17th January 2010, 16:31

As an aside, will any of the front four admit to falling on Meyers Pass? Only, it looked from the marks on the road that at least two had. Any admissions of guilt?

no pic's didn't happen :laugh:

Racing Dave

17th January 2010, 18:30

no pic's didn't happen :laugh:

Here I am waiting for the helicopter. You might notice that my right shoulder is a bit down and back from normal.

Racing Dave

17th January 2010, 18:34

How long from activation to the whirlybird being on site? Just goes to show that it can happen to any bugger. Might go hire me one for Zerax's and my Molesworth / Rainbow loop next Sunday...

About an hour, which included 25 minutes flying from Dunedin.

Being the South Island, there's no cell phone coverage where you really need it. If Dave hadn't turned up, and I was relying on voice, it'd have been a long and uncomfortable walk.

A satellite phone would be another good choice, but it wouldn't be any quicker getting a response. What it would allow, though, is proper explanation of injuries, rather than waiting till the helicopter arrives to see if (for example) there are multiple casualties.

Skinny_Birdman

17th January 2010, 19:15

As an aside, will any of the front four admit to falling on Meyers Pass? Only, it looked from the marks on the road that at least two had. Any admissions of guilt?
Sorry to hear about your spill Dave, and I hope you are soon up and racing again. No falls in our party, but as will no doubt be explained the Cooney brothers were a bit more "in the dark", shall we say, so they had a few moments. I had a VERY close call in Menzies Pass, with a long uncontrolled lock to lock slide towards a bank (being dark I have no idea how high it was). We did serious damage to Central Otago's rabbit population though!

no pic's didn't happen :laugh:
If we had had time for pictures we might not have finished. We were either riding as fast as my bike would allow, eating or gassing up. So no pics sorry. I was thinking of Donald Crowhurst and the Teignmouth Electron (google it) as we went actually, and thinking that we should have taken a camera.

zeRax

17th January 2010, 21:02

Well well well,

First off thanks alot to Ryan and all the support and helpers,
very well put together, the route is magic, and mapped out equally as great.

Stunning views
Constant stream of suicide bunnies and some of them got their wish
dozed off twice and woke up off the road either side, needed to do something about being so tired!, sung a bit before a caffeine fix later
Nearly got a small wallabe inprint on front rim
also saw the biggest wallabe on the planet, i tells ya, was a giant
Fast smooth track full of traction
No offs but a few nearlys !

Skinnybirdman and i made a good team and we dusted it up

we did a touch over 400kms in cold horrible darkness, discovered my highbeam was non existant ( but dont ask me about lighting, as the bros! uh oh ! )- so just lighting that was all too easy to outrun and get scared over.
Felt good kms wise at this point i think, and were very happy to see sunlight and get some warmth back eventually.
we had concerns about weither we could finish or not for quite awhile, it seemed like it would be touch and go down to the wire.

little did we know we were doing well time wise, but didnt really know, at the 700km mark we set some really good pace on.
some people could do some serious speeds on the big bore bikes i bet.

we mucked up a fuel stop and alex ran out of fuel, oops! rode and got some fuel from a nearby good sport.
had a feed and set off assuming we should have it no worries, and except for another tired spell, we did, got there good as gold

and as a quirky oddball

i pulled into gladstone carpark and ran out of fuel just as i came to a stop, it must have ment to be :P

Cheers alex, we smashed it ! :D

NordieBoy

18th January 2010, 06:56

Good on'yas :D

Wonder what next years challenge is going to be?
Scrapheap?

cooneyr

18th January 2010, 07:27

......
dozed off twice and woke up off the road either side, needed to do something about being so tired!, sung a bit before a caffeine fix later
Nearly got a small wallabe inprint on front rim
also saw the biggest wallabe on the planet, i tells ya, was a giant.....

Cheers alex, we smashed it ! :D

LOL Falling asleep followed by giant wallabies - you know they only get to about 4 foot tall!

Seriously extremely well done to Zerax and Skinny. To the best of my knowledge they are the first and only riders to complete the SBC. One other thing I was working out last night. Zerax has completed every one day running of the DB1k except for the first which nobody compelted. I cannot think of anybody else who has done this so he is now the record holder for the most one day DB1k runs completed. Bloody good effort dude!

Good on'yas :D

Wonder what next years challenge is going to be?
Scrapheap?

I think that was the problem this year LOL;) We are considering our options for next year - 50cc, sidecar, quad (if we could find a way to reg one). Of course there is always the buy a normal modern bike and finish it option but where is the fun in that.

I dont want to steal El's thunder so I'm not going to elaborate more than to say that we made it to Ranfurly (280kms) as the sun was comming up. We were about 2 hours behind were I'd like to have been but while it was light we did much better than I'd hoped for. Maybe, just maybe we would have got there or been a couple of hours over if we didn't have problems. So given Zerax's and Skinnys effort and our pace I think it is reasonably well proved that a 125 can do a 1000kms in under 24 hours if it is in good order.

Oh one more thing we discovered - my XLR125 could tow El's Yammy LT2/Ag monster with him on board quite well. We managed 70kph on the flats, significantly less up hill and up to 90kph down hill for 50km. That was an interesting exercise and I can conclude the footpeg to footpeg tow rope method works really well. That reminds me of another option we have already discussed - trailer with second person behind a SBC i.e. don't worry about the weight of the second bike and just town the second person from the beginning :laugh: This of course evolved into the more sensible sidecar option.

Cheers R

Jantar

18th January 2010, 08:16

cooneyr

18th January 2010, 09:38

Well done guys. When you all started on friday I was still at work at Clyde, and there was no way I could do a 12 hour shift, ride to Fairlie and still do a 24 ride to follow. But at least I now have a bike for next years ride.

Can I sugest you double check all the threads on the engine and helicoil any that are a bit dodgy ;)

Cheers R

TuckerBag

19th January 2010, 16:33

Just got home.
My SBC ended up being a 2 dayer as I was too tired to join in at 8pm Friday with the others and I was quite un-organised due to it being a real last minute thing for me
Tauranga return: 3686km over six days on the '04 NXR125.
Day 1 took 14 hours with about 2 hours of stops
Day 2 took 8.5 hours with minimal stops.

Man that was fun!
The 125 was a lot more fun than I expected.

JATZ

19th January 2010, 16:58

It was just as much fun watching you on your wee stead Tuckerbag :D

Well done Skinny Birdman and Zerax, mammoth effort

XF650

19th January 2010, 17:31

Hey Tuckerbag - was it you that threw a chain in the Okuku River, Lees Valley yesterday?

TuckerBag

19th January 2010, 17:41

Hey Tuckerbag - was it you that threw a chain in the Okuku River, Lees Valley yesterday?

Yeah, chain came off mid river :mad:. Others on the spot helped me out and I was rollin again in no time with one broken rear spoke. I had adjusted the chain tension mid Serpentine after the chain came off there too. Obviously it is stretching fast.
Also did the Molesworth/Awatere on the way up.

XF650

19th January 2010, 17:54

Yeah, chain came off mid river :mad:. Others on the spot helped me out and I was rollin again in no time with one broken rear spoke. I had adjusted the chain tension mid Serpentine after the chain came off there too. Obviously it is stretching fast.
Also did the Molesworth/Awatere on the way up.

Those same guys couldn't believe your pace, especially when you caught up with them in Hamner.
Congratulations by the way - that's a massive journey in impressive time on your 125.

Padmei

19th January 2010, 17:56

Hey Tuckerbag glad to hear you made it thru without any broken body parts this time - special award time??:first:

helenoftroy

19th January 2010, 21:51

Hey Tuckerbag glad to hear you made it thru without any broken body parts this time - special award time??:first:

He sure did!!
Tho I gave him the waggly finger nurse/mother type lecture when he showed up on Friday!!:mega:

Tuckerbag,you did amazingly well....Deb & I couldnt believe it when you rocked into Omarama 6th!!!
So good to see you down here ... awesome effort!:niceone:

Underground

20th January 2010, 09:24

Congrads you SBC guys ,and I must comment on your good gatemanship on day one tuckerbag .we would arrive at a gate and my automatic gate opener would be preparing to dismount when the mighty 125 would broardside to a stop beside us with tuckerbag making one of those rugby tackle leaps for the latch and we'd be through and on to the next one.
Interesting how you got through the locked gate when you'd forgot the combination

El scooto

20th January 2010, 16:48

Alright here we go.

So started off all good. Get to the first incline and discover I have the slowest bike in the ground by a galaxy mile, I think to myself 'it's gunna be a long night'. Due to the pace or lack there of, Alex and Kyle carry on leaving Ryan to tag along with me. Finally starts getting dark on the downhill side of the Haka pass. So far so good. Get to the cattle yards further down the track and my lights are all but f*#ked. Who would have guessed a small 6volt battery was not going to last the distance! So it would only put out what the magneto would give it. I could just make out where the road was if I was lucky. From there on Ryan kindly rode side by side with me so I could steal some illumination. Not great but worked ok. Got to the first fuel dump in Duntroon and notice the overflow hose from the carby was leaky. Proceeded to pull it apart at 1am by torch light. Carried on to Dansey's Pass still side by side. Sometimes due to the twisty road Ryan would end up about 20m ahead. I knew there was a corner but couldn't see the road surface at all so managed to bin it because of the windrow in the centre. TWICE in about 5 corners. (thanks Carl for picking up my mirror!!) Started making ok time again and then about 1km out of Ranfurly Dorris blew her foufou valve. Well actually she managed to blow the spark plug completely out of the head. WTF!!! The thread was pretty nackered. Jamed it back in and got to Ranfurly and parked up by the pub for closer inspection (pub closed 5am). Ryan put some aluminium foil tape on the Spark plug and jammed it in again. We decided that it probably wasn't the best idea to continue at this point as it was more than likely to happen again. So we bailed on the road to Alex. Popped again after about 25-30km and Ryan towed me the rest of the way. We had to wait until for the Honda shop to open and get a heli coil put in the head. So game over. We did do the Black forest road though which was good.

In conclusion. Dorris was probably not the best bike for the job. Also depressingly Ryan's XLR125 did a very good job of towing me at almost the same speed I could go under my own power!! Will be looking for another bike for next year.

Anybody want to buy a 1973 LT3? It's a classic you know :)

Cheers

Waihou Thumper

20th January 2010, 17:38

:shit: Well done that man for the gonads to do it in the first place on the lil' blighter

Skinny_Birdman

20th January 2010, 19:57

Anybody want to buy a 1973 LT3? It's a classic you know :)

Cheers

Anyone wanna buy my XLR? I've only used it for two weekends.

cooneyr

20th January 2010, 21:24

Hey bro, it was a fun night anyway - cause I didn't crash, my headlight put out more than one candles worth of light and I had enough power to more than 1st gear up the hills LOL.

Transalper

21st January 2010, 10:51

Anyone wanna buy my XLR? I've only used it for two weekends.

There you go El Scooto, just buy this one. hardly used. Probably reliable enough to do it again and a perfect match to cooneyrs one.

TuckerBag

24th January 2010, 16:10

The Duck 01

24th January 2010, 16:31

Padmei

24th January 2010, 17:32

Wow i heard on the rado yesterday that Shane Bond was gonna earn $3000.00 a ball or $18000.00 an over. I thought THAT was a big number...

TuckerBag

25th January 2010, 09:53

SBC = Salaried Bowling Cricket?

Crisis management

26th January 2010, 06:22

Yeah, chain came off mid river :mad:. Others on the spot helped me out and I was rollin again in no time with one broken rear spoke.......
Also did the Molesworth/Awatere on the way up.

That was us, I'm not sure we would have believed that was a 125 if you had told us, you were keeping up a fair pace, well done!!
We went left at Hanmer (in a round about sort of way) and did the Rainbow to Murchison, hope you enjoyed Molesworth!

Cheers
Iain

Woodman

26th January 2010, 21:02

OK, just to be a geek:

My NXR125 did about 3700km over the 6 days around the DB1k
Lets just say I averaged 75km/h
Lets just say I averaged 8000rpm
I have no idea how accurate those figures are but they are probably ball-park-ish

This calculates out to 23.7 million engine revolutions. (maybe someone should check my maths)
Now that is a small bore challenge!
Any advances on 23.7 million revs?

personally believe that 8000rpm is a bit light. my reason for this is that when I passed you just prior to lawrence i was convinced from the noise coming outta your bike that it was a 2 stroke.

Bloody impressive effort.

Do you realise that at 23.7 million revolutions that the piston has to come to a complete stop and and then start again 47.4 million times.

warewolf

26th January 2010, 23:27

Do you realise that at 23.7 million revolutions that the piston has to come to a complete stop and and then start again 47.4 million times.

Lucky it's only a piss-ant little piston then, eh? :laugh: Can't see a Hardley-Rollingson pulling 8000rpm for 6 days...

Skinny_Birdman

27th January 2010, 11:09

So, um, seriously guys, if anyone wants a hardly used XLR 125 (only owned by a little old nana who only drove it to the shops and averaged 55km/h for the odd little 1000km adventure ride) to have a go at next year's Sore Bum Challenge, it's now on Trademe (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=267518117). No room for sentiment in the Birdman garage, I've a new Transalp to buy! My TT-R is also potentially up for grabs, if anyone's interested.

cooneyr

27th January 2010, 12:38

Skinny_Birdman

1st February 2010, 07:24

Sold, ka-ching! To a generously proportioned American gentleman who plans to commute from Leeston on it. The bike may wish it was doing another SBC before it's through!

cooneyr

2nd February 2010, 06:05

Sold, ka-ching! To a generously proportioned American gentleman who plans to commute from Leeston on it. The bike may wish it was doing another SBC before it's through!

Poor little bike. Your probably right the SBC was probably nice to it!!! LOL

Skinny_Birdman

19th February 2010, 07:02

Just curious, does anyone want any money for the fuel dumps. El Scooto? Ruralman?

zeRax

19th February 2010, 22:52

Just curious, does anyone want any money for the fuel dumps. El Scooto? Ruralman?

good point alex! what we owe yas,

El scooto

4th March 2010, 18:16

Oh yeah that would be me. Sorry been off line for a couple of weeks. Just moved in to my new house and literally got the net connected 5min ago. I'll PM you both with details.

Chur

Racing Dave

15th March 2010, 18:37

Hi all,

As expected, all is revealed in the April issue, out now.

Cheers,
Dave B

cooneyr

16th March 2010, 06:20

Thanks for the update RD. Will try and locate one.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

17th March 2010, 08:05

Just read the article...

1. In the editorial it's "Big Dave" on the Dusty Butt :D
2. The top of the south version couldn't be finished in daylight either...

Overall rating 8/10.

Would have rated higher with more mentions of DR650's.

Zukin's old report had better photos though :D

:woohoo:

Racing Dave

17th March 2010, 14:37

Sorry to disappoint you, NordieBoy, but I did ride the northern DB in daylight - last year on my R1200GS Adventure.

Just over 15 hours...

topo

17th March 2010, 14:54

15hrs:laugh:

NordieBoy

17th March 2010, 14:54

Sorry to disappoint you, NordieBoy, but I did ride the northern DB in daylight - last year on my R1200GS Adventure.

Just over 15 hours...

Fairy 'nuff.

How long do you think the Southern Dusty would have taken on the 1200?

JATZ

17th March 2010, 20:43

Not a bad write up considering space available, would be nice to see more of the 2 day option covered, that's where the 650's are Nordie.
the boy was chuffed to see himself in glossy print too, and you can just see the back/right of my head :niceone:

Racing Dave

18th March 2010, 08:29

The best things about the BMW are its lights, comfort, and range on a tank, as only one pit stop is required, but the worst is its mass, making it quite un-nimble at low speed.

I'd guess (and it's only a guess) that 20 hours would be the worst case, and hopefully a couple of hours less.

The slowest parts are always those with gates, and solo through the Cattle Creek and Thompsons Gorge sections is terribly time consuming - even climbing on and off the bike takes longer than on a lower/lighter machine. Riding speed is slow on the Clyde pylon track and Omarama Saddle track, and seldom (never?) faster than 650s on the normal gravel roads or (for example) Dunstan Road.

I'd be interesting to see, but next year I will be back on the 125, as it's important to me to complete that attempt.

Cheers