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suzuki mama
30th April 2009, 11:25
Im having the greatest difficulty getting my head around this mess,
the problem i have without taking sides is simple.
Noel Curr was the President at the time of the incident ,has subsequently been voted by his membership twice more over a two year period to be the President, and all of a sudden after this lengthy period of time a rule is going to be enforced to strip him of Presidency.
With the best will in the world,
this is wrong ! the Board and office didnt just find this rule ,if they did it indicates a woeful lack of our constitution ,so either it was ignored for two years until shock horror Elections and 150 votes plus that may or may not uphold the status quo ,and my monies leaning more toward the not, or it is yet another example of the manipulating of the rules to suit agendas.?
Now i dont have a problem as i have already said to some who have contacted me with Noel being censured, i do have a problem with MNZS complete inability to be professional about this, come on guys and the guyess ,your doing yourself no favours here with this all of a sudden flurry of threats .
Either your the slowest acting board in the history of our sport or theres something not at all on the level about this
I read this morning on holeshot an excerpt from the Sports tribunal ,i have read the rest and it does neither side any credit.
The Board and the office are supposed to represent us professionally ,guys you
have failed on this one .
My question to you all is this , as i understand it two board members are not seeking re election and the President has a serious contender in the wings.
In order not to appear petty and small minded and following your own agendas why not leave it to the new board coming in .
what the ...... everybody on heres got opinions out their wazoo, but no-ones willing to share theirs on this subject - imagine if it was YOUR club ........
tl1000
3rd May 2009, 22:18
If this was your club, wouldnt you be pissed, kicked out, no vote, no licence and no junior nats, this club at least put its hand up to "help" the MX community to spread events round and on what they have delivered in the past would make a pretty good fist of it,
If this isnt a personal vendetta against Noel Curr, I ride a vespa !!!!:angry2:
CHOPPA
3rd May 2009, 23:21
Is Noel Curr, Tim Currs old man??
SixPackBack
4th May 2009, 06:50
Is Noel Curr, Tim Currs old man??
Wayne Curr's brother :whistle:
Is Noel Curr, Tim Currs old man??
Yep - the issue would appear to be that some at the Helm of MNZ are unwilling or unable to seperate the Noel who HAS been a thorn in the Corporate side , from the Noel who's done so much for the Sport in his and surrounding areas, and who the membership of the Marlborough Club clearly want to lead them for another term
Evidently we have a "rule" to cover any and all occasions, and bugger me if there isnt one thats TAILOR MADE for the "Noel Curr Scenario"
Safe bet that the Constitution of the Marlborough Club doesnt REQUIRE any office bearer ( or ANY member ) to be a Member of MNZ. To my mind the Clubs Rules should take precedence over MNZ's attempt to stifle Noel.
To trample roughshod over the democratic rights of every other Member of the Marlborough Club to get one more over on their President cant be disguised or sanitised, it MUST be seen for what it is
Wish the wind would change direction, theres a hell of a stink in the air .......
CHOPPA
5th May 2009, 22:33
He grabbed me by the throat and threatened to punch me out when i was 15. He wasnt so tough when my old man turned up... I dont hold a very high opinion of the man!
Grey Beard
5th May 2009, 23:02
wayne curr's brother :whistle:
are you sure, i thought is brother's name was peter.
No-one is claiming Sainthood for Noel, not even Noel himself !
The issue is the fact that every OTHER member of that Club would appear to be getting the shaft too. I cant be the only bugger in the country who sees that for exactly what it is, surely .......
Grey Beard
6th May 2009, 09:24
No-one is claiming Sainthood for Noel, not even Noel himself !
The issue is the fact that every OTHER member of that Club would appear to be getting the shaft too. I cant be the only bugger in the country who sees that for exactly what it is, surely .......
So TRUE.
The Current President and members of the Administration are quite simply out to get Noel. This would include the CEO. You only have to look at how certain incidents post 'New Plymouth 2007' have been handled to see this.
Just ask JimT and the Wanganui Club about the supposed sidecar incident.
They seem to fixate on issues, rather than resolving them and moving on.
SIMPLE ANSWER AT PRESENT.
VOTE FOR CHANGE
As everyone keeps saying
White trash
6th May 2009, 09:24
He grabbed me by the throat and threatened to punch me out when i was 15. He wasnt so tough when my old man turned up... I dont hold a very high opinion of the man!
I've often wanted to grab you by the throat and punch you out Chop, don't hold it agaist the guy. :)
In seriousness though, this sounds like a fairly big issue and I can see both sides of the coin.
The Club has obviously voted Noel in so they see him as doing alright by them. However, it would appear that the dude's got some pretty serious anger managment issues to have two seperate instances that are public knowledge of violence towards either MNZ officials or competitors.
Granted though, this sshould not be coming to a heada after two years of no action by MNZ.
Grey Beard
6th May 2009, 09:34
Trashy,
When you talk about incidents involving MNZ officials, one must be careful who's version of events you use. There are a lot of riders around who would fit into the same group, even other officials and organisers, but because they are not Noel Curr, NOTHING HAPPENS.
They need to take a moment in time, resolve everthing at that point and move on.
To qote one of our Presidential Candidates:
"We should draw a line in the sand and get over it"
White trash
6th May 2009, 09:41
Trashy,
When you talk about incidents involving MNZ officials, one must be careful who's version of events you use. There are a lot of riders around who would fit into the same group, even other officials and organisers, but because they are not Noel Curr, NOTHING HAPPENS.
They need to take a moment in time, resolve everthing at that point and move on.
To qote one of our Presidential Candidates:
"We should draw a line in the sand and get over it"
Mmmmm, I see your point.
However, quite frankly if there's this sort of carry on and hostility becoming a regular occurence from riders towards MNZ officials, I would bloody hope something was done about it. I've been pretty pissed off in a couple of instances over the past couple of years by different scenarios, but it's never occured to me that someone might need a smack or even the threat of one.
Granted though, MNZ should not be enforcing a different set of rules for one person they have a vendetta against.
wharfy
6th May 2009, 09:52
He grabbed me by the throat and threatened to punch me out when i was 15. He wasnt so tough when my old man turned up... I dont hold a very high opinion of the man!
That's NOT OK...
tas152
9th May 2009, 08:06
This issue has now been resolved according to this
http://www.mnz.co.nz/newsDetail.aspx?SectionID=29&ArticleID=29871
Excellent news :2thumbsup
This issue has now been resolved according to this
http://www.mnz.co.nz/newsDetail.aspx?SectionID=29&ArticleID=29871
Excellent news :2thumbsup
Great that its been resolved, SHAME that it ever happened
suzuki mama
9th May 2009, 16:17
Great that its been resolved, SHAME that it ever happened
Worked with ,interesting way to describe ignoring it for 3 elections then issueing threats, wasnt aware Noel had stepped down permanently ,could Someone clarify this?
no doubt at AGM MUCH WILL BE MADE OF THIS ,would love explaination for why it was ok for him to be President for so long ,but our current President doesnt seem able to answer curly questions
Robert Taylor
9th May 2009, 20:10
He grabbed me by the throat and threatened to punch me out when i was 15. He wasnt so tough when my old man turned up... I dont hold a very high opinion of the man!
Aw come on chop, your old mans a pussycat!
Worked with ,interesting way to describe ignoring it for 3 elections then issueing threats, wasnt aware Noel had stepped down permanently ,could Someone clarify this?
no doubt at AGM MUCH WILL BE MADE OF THIS ,would love explaination for why it was ok for him to be President for so long ,but our current President doesnt seem able to answer curly questions
MY understanding is that Noel has agreed to STEP ASIDE in the interim, not resign .... can anyone confirm ? Subtle but important difference
fossil
10th May 2009, 16:45
MY understanding is that Noel has agreed to STEP ASIDE in the interim, not resign .... can anyone confirm ? Subtle but important difference
Thats what his letter to the Marlborough club said.
I think the new Board should revisit this whole fiasco and draw a line in the sand. Lets move forward.
budda
10th May 2009, 17:06
Amen to THAT !!!!!!!!!!!
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