Improvements to Winter Series, well done VMCC!

[slowpoke]

WOOT! VMCC you lil' champions! Check out the improvements to the Winter Series in the Oily Rag here: www.vicclub.co.nz

The guts of it pinched from the Oily Rag (which looks great by the way):

"For that special bunch of guys that turn up and race Motard’s you will run the same circuits and laps as everyone else all year.

But the really big news is after discussions with Ed Baker we have gained the support of LG Electronics we have arrived at a dedicated Superbike only race that we will hold per meeting.

So you guys spending the big bucks now get the opportunity to ride alone with no Supersport bikes buzzing around.

The class is officially called Formula LG Superbike and there will be the opportunity for 1 race at each one day meetings and 2 races one per day for the 2 day meetings.

These races are for Superbikes only. The easiest way of defining this is if your bike is eligi-ble for Supersport or lower then it is not allowed to enter. Grid places will be determined by the times posted for the VMCC Superbike class with the cross entry class bikes removed and the lower qualifiers moved forward to replace the cross entry bikes places.

There will be rewards given to the competitors of this class from LG; more details will be given at the start of the series."
While the LG support is fantastic, I don't fancy my chances of picking anything up there. No I'm just rapt that the laps per bike ratio has been evened up between the classes and that our best and brightest are being given an attractive development path. With cheaper top level racing on the horizon, and no dis-incentive to race a Superbike we may finally see some young whipper snappers coming through to challenge the old guard.

Well done VMCC!

Now, all you fullah's and fulless's, bust out the big bikes you've been umming and aahing about racing and support what I reckon is a great initiative.

[White trash]

These rules are as a direct result of VMCC doing something better than all other clubs, listening to those that support and subscribe to it.

It's going to be a fantastic (as always) series and as usual, grids will be over subscribed.

What recession?

[sinfull]

These rules are as a direct result of VMCC doing something better than all other clubs, listening to those that support and subscribe to it.

It's going to be a fantastic (as always) series and as usual, grids will be over subscribed.

What recession?
Lend me ten grand and i enter father chops ! Pay ya back will i ! soon ish !

[Tony.OK]

Sounds great....................amazing the lengths Ed will go to so he's not shown up by an F2 bike:innocent:

Ya knows I luffs ya Ed..............................Well done to all involved:yes:

[White trash]

Just race the Trumpy bro. It's elligible.

[Quasievil]

Good work VMCC, perhaps ya could not use yellow in your posts kinda hard to read au !

[sinfull]

Good work VMCC, perhaps ya could not use yellow in your posts kinda hard to read au !

Come to the dark side Luke !!!

[driftn]

Awesome news, Gutted that I sold J-lo now that would have been a real hoot showing some of these late model thou's that old dogs can still pull new tricks and no pesky middle weights in the field.:woohoo:

Well done VMCC shaping up to be another fantastic season and also big ups to Eddy for putting in he work to make this happen.

[Billy]

Thats great news!Provided the other classes dont have too have their races shortened just for this too happen.A better idea would have been to stop the 6 hundys from entering the superbike class and then they could have 2 races per round on their own.Still cant please everyone aye ??

[White trash]

Thats great news!Provided the other classes dont have too have their races shortened just for this too happen.A better idea would have been to stop the 6 hundys from entering the superbike class and then they could have 2 races per round on their own.Still cant please everyone aye ??
VMCC had already committed to running this season with only two sessions of racing per class for the single day meetings for the simple reason that the majority of rounds where they try to squeeze 3 races in, they run out of time and races have to be shortened or canned.

The result is the extra time saved translates into more laps per race.

Both very good steps in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.

[slowpoke]

Thats great news!Provided the other classes dont have too have their races shortened just for this too happen.A better idea would have been to stop the 6 hundys from entering the superbike class and then they could have 2 races per round on their own.Still cant please everyone aye ??

Nearly every other class can cross enter into other classes so have had double the racing compared to F1 for a measely $20. This is just levelling the playing field and removing the discouragement to race a big bike.
It should be great for the young talent coming through, giving them more incentive to step up and keep improving their skills, rather than a learning curve that slows dramatically once they step out of 600's.
The 600 riders still get a good amount of track time, the numbers of superbikes will start improving, the show get's better for spectators, sponsors, it's a real boost for the sport.

[Shaun]

Happy for ya all

When I offered to purchase 15 Machines and run a ONE make race series at the VIC scene, they could not accomodate me for this one, shame really, Glad you got in there some how?

well done vmcc

[GIXser]

Im glad VMCC have kindly let LG be part of the series, i know the guys at LG are stoked,.. exactly what a sponsor wants to see...

Thanks VMCC

[Shaun]

Im glad VMCC have kindly let LG be part of the series, i know the guys at LG are stoked,.. exactly what a sponsor wants to see...

Thanks VMCC


Thanks to LG for putting there money where there mouth is again.

AND YES, I did find a supplier of LG washing machines and TV's to buy from

[Clivoris]

Thanks everyone. The Pres Melintino really sharpened his pencil on this one. It will mean that we will have to run a tight ship and do things like get 2 crash crews running if we can get some more volunteers, complete riders briefing before 9 and ask you all to crash less:crazy: It's the only way that we can fit one more race into the programme per day. Fingers crossed that the superbike boys and girls make use of it.
We are also pretty stoked to introduce a Mini-Lite class for 4 stroke 250s. The point of difference being that slightly more mods than streetstock are acceptable. We are hoping that this will get some of the keyboard racers on the L's off the keyboard and onto the track.
So, something of an experimental season; but a bit of mental does the soul good.

[Tony.OK]

Hey Clive why did the VMCC add another race to SBK instead of just using the 2nd F1 race for the LG SBK grid?
More time in the day then for longer races, or was it to accomodate the F2 cross entries?
Just curious is all....................:yes:

[Clivoris]

Hey Clive why did the VMCC add another race to SBK instead of just using the 2nd F1 race for the LG SBK grid?
More time in the day then for longer races, or was it to accomodate the F2 cross entries?
Just curious is all....................:yes:

The way we think about it is that we have added a Formula LG Superbike race/class, with entry restricted to Superbikes only. This is quite different to the Superbike/F1 class we have historically run. This gives LG an opportunity to put some of their weight behind promoting The Actrix VMCC Winter Series, and gives Superbike racers a shot at a little more track time, maybe with some excellent prizes. It's true that they haven't been getting any opportunities to cross enter like other classes, and that's just been hard cheese. It seemed to have got to the point that Superbike riders were feeling disadvantaged. Hopefully, this sorts some of that without disadvantaging any of the other classes.
I hope this makes sense.

[Teambwr47]

So am I right in thinking there are 2 Supersport and 2 Superbike races per one day meeting plus 1 LG Superbike race?

[HDTboy]

Can post classic 750cc + bikes run in the LG superbikes?

[Clivoris]

So am I right in thinking there are 2 Supersport and 2 Superbike races per one day meeting plus 1 LG Superbike race?

Correctamundo Brian. Bikes eligible for F2/600 supersport are not eligible for Formula LG Superbike.

[Clivoris]

Can post classic 750cc + bikes run in the LG superbikes?

I'm sure Pres Mel knows the answer to that, but I am not sure. Will get back to you.

[Tony.OK]

The way we think about it is that we have added a Formula LG Superbike race/class, with entry restricted to Superbikes only. This is quite different to the Superbike/F1 class we have historically run. This gives LG an opportunity to put some of their weight behind promoting The Actrix VMCC Winter Series, and gives Superbike racers a shot at a little more track time, maybe with some excellent prizes. It's true that they haven't been getting any opportunities to cross enter like other classes, and that's just been hard cheese. It seemed to have got to the point that Superbike riders were feeling disadvantaged. Hopefully, this sorts some of that without disadvantaging any of the other classes.
I hope this makes sense.

Cheers Clive :niceone:

[Clivoris]

Can post classic 750cc + bikes run in the LG superbikes?

The best answer I can give is that if a bike is cross-entered into F1/Superbikes from another class in the Actrix Winter Series, it is not eligible for Formula LG Superbike. Formula LG Superbike is a "bonus class/race" for Superbikes entered in F1/Superbikes that do not have the option of cross-entry in other classes.

[HDTboy]

So if I had a post classic or F2 eligible bike, but was only entered in F1 on the day I could ride in the bonus race?

[Clivoris]

So if I had a post classic or F2 eligible bike, but was only entered in F1 on the day I could ride in the bonus race?

Short answer is no.

[ktm]

So: Two Supersport races, Two Superbike races, and one special extra race for LG sponsored racers on last years Factory bikes. Yup, works for me

[GIXser]

I think the whole purpose is to just have an F1 race with no cross entering, i think it doesnt matter what it would be called, its not about the LG bikes, its about a premier class to see if we can build it up for the next nationals.:)
and to create some hype:)

[ktm]

Sorry I is a slow learner. One bike say 150kg, 1000cc, 190 H.P. another bike say 150kg, 600cc, 130 H.P. And now because you have both less cc and H.P. you are banned from entering the LG race? What about talent? Sorry, I don't understand this new class.

[Tony.OK]

Sorry I is a slow learner. One bike say 150kg, 1000cc, 190 H.P. another bike say 150kg, 600cc, 130 H.P. And now because you have both less cc and H.P. you are banned from entering the LG race? What about talent? Sorry, I don't understand this new class.

The big bikes are the only ones who can't cross enter into another class to get more track time, but still pay the same fees as all other classes, and to be penalised just because a rider chooses to race in the top class didn't seem right.
And hopefully by giving more track time it will encourage more people to get out on the SBK grid.

So that gives a SBK rider 3 races....................F2 riders and others through cross entering still get 4 races.

Make sense??

[ktm]

make sense??[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?

[Tony.OK]

No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?

Maybe you should voice your concerns with the VMCC.................calling me petty won't get ya far............hell I'm not even doin the winter series.

Is there something wrong with trying to boost support for what is supposed to be the elite class?

[flame]

F2 riders and others through cross entering still get 4 races.

Make sense??
not all of them.....some dont qualify for the class above their own. But they dont seem to mind. To qualify, means your good enough after all :). Nor do they have a problem that F3 riders cross enter into f2, which can knock out some of the f2 bikes! But thats racing and its fair in my mind.

Seemed like it would have been perhaps a good idea to run the LG class as 'top 30 fastest bikes over the day' or something. Im sure all the F1 bikes would qualify. Just a thought.

[cowpoos]

No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?
streetstock and superbikes are the only ones that can't x-enter...now the idea behind this is to reward those that step up to superbikes...the premier class. of which is suffering at national level. it needs more numbers...so vic club/LG inititive is fantastic!! and will hopefully incourage more riders to step up from 600's [who will still get 4 races and superbikes only 3]...

So what is it your exactly whinging about??? we could just say no x entering...then everyone will get 2 races???

[cowpoos]

F3 riders cross enter into f2, which can knock out some of the f2 bikes! But thats racing and its fair in my mind.

Thats not particularly fair Hun...[and I think its been addressed]...if you drove all the way from auckland to race f2...and didn't make qualifing because a whole heap of F3 riders out qualified you...so you had to go home...you'd be pissed!![well you also get pissed...and that fair enough too...mind you..you'd get piss regardless :P ] especially if you made the 115% cut off.

[flame]

Thats not particularly fair Hun...[and I think its been addressed]...if you drove all the way from auckland to race f2...and didn't make qualifing because a whole heap of F3 riders out qualified you...so you had to go home...you'd be pissed!![well you also get pissed...and that fair enough too...mind you..you'd get piss regardless :P ] especially if you made the 115% cut off.
LOL....I ALWAYS make the cut off :), and I get a little pizzzd when the leathers are hung up at days end. And NO!!!! if I didn't qualify I'd just go and get pizzzd, not 'pizzzzzd off'. I would accept that I just needed to lift my game!

[Shaun P]

make sense??
No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?
:zzzz: :crybaby:

streetstock and superbikes are the only ones that can't x-enter...now the idea behind this is to reward those that step up to superbikes...the premier class. of which is suffering at national level. it needs more numbers...so vic club/LG inititive is fantastic!! and will hopefully incourage more riders to step up from 600's [who will still get 4 races and superbikes only 3]...

So what is it your exactly whinging about??? we could just say no x entering...then everyone will get 2 races???

It may not happen overnight with regard to boosting superbike numbers but its a great step in the right direction.

[ktm]

So what is it your exactly whinging about??? we could just say no x entering...then everyone will get 2 races???[/QUOTE]

Mate it's not me "whingeing" at all. Read again, I reckon that if you can ride a smaller, less powerful bike then if you qualify then you should be able to enter what ever you can. No one forced anyone to buy and race a thousand cc bike, they chose it themselves. And if some one else chose to ride a six hundred, and can ride it faster than a bigger bike, well, good on them. But now class LG get their own race, at the expense of ALL the other entrants track time, cos they can't compete against six hundreds on a level playing field? And it costs the same for clubmans, and they can't cross enter, and it's usually clubmans races that get cut if there's problems elsewhere. Fair for all is what I am saying.

[cowpoos]

Mate it's not me "whingeing" at all. Read again, I reckon that if you can ride a smaller, less powerful bike then if you qualify then you should be able to enter what ever you can. No one forced anyone to buy and race a thousand cc bike, they chose it themselves. And if some one else chose to ride a six hundred, and can ride it faster than a bigger bike, well, good on them. But now class LG get their own race, at the expense of ALL the other entrants track time, cos they can't compete against six hundreds on a level playing field? And it costs the same for clubmans, and they can't cross enter, and it's usually clubmans races that get cut if there's problems elsewhere. Fair for all is what I am saying.
ummmm...I think its a great step forward.

So what class do you race in?

[ktm]

So what is it your exactly whinging about??? we could just say no x entering...then everyone will get 2 races???[/QUOTE]

Mate it's not me "whingeing" at all. Read again, I reckon that if you can ride a smaller, less powerful bike then if you qualify then you should be able to enter what ever you can. No one forced anyone to buy and race a thousand cc bike, they chose it themselves. And if some one else chose to ride a six hundred, and can ride it faster than a bigger bike, well, good on them. But now class LG get their own race, at the expense of ALL the other entrants track time, cos they can't compete against six hundreds on a level playing field? And it costs the same for clubmans, and they can't cross enter, and it's usually clubmans races that get cut if there's problems elsewhere. Fair for all is what I am saying.

[Billy]

So what is it your exactly whinging about??? we could just say no x entering...then everyone will get 2 races???

Mate it's not me "whingeing" at all. Read again, I reckon that if you can ride a smaller, less powerful bike then if you qualify then you should be able to enter what ever you can. No one forced anyone to buy and race a thousand cc bike, they chose it themselves. And if some one else chose to ride a six hundred, and can ride it faster than a bigger bike, well, good on them. But now class LG get their own race, at the expense of ALL the other entrants track time, cos they can't compete against six hundreds on a level playing field? And it costs the same for clubmans, and they can't cross enter, and it's usually clubmans races that get cut if there's problems elsewhere. Fair for all is what I am saying.[/QUOTE]

Yeah,But unfortunately you cant please everybody all the time and the clubs only do what they think needs to be done to improve their own series and as long as its done safely then its all good

[slowpoke]

Mate it's not me "whingeing" at all. Read again, I reckon that if you can ride a smaller, less powerful bike then if you qualify then you should be able to enter what ever you can. No one forced anyone to buy and race a thousand cc bike, they chose it themselves. And if some one else chose to ride a six hundred, and can ride it faster than a bigger bike, well, good on them. But now class LG get their own race, at the expense of ALL the other entrants track time, cos they can't compete against six hundreds on a level playing field? And it costs the same for clubmans, and they can't cross enter, and it's usually clubmans races that get cut if there's problems elsewhere. Fair for all is what I am saying.

So just how is a Superbike rider ever supposed to compete on an equal footing with a 600 pilot if they can only ever get 1/2 the track time? It's not just about horsepower fella, take a look at just how much time is spent at wide open throttle compared to cornering on Taupo short track and you could argue that lighter, more nimble 600's have an advantage over 1000's.

In your world who said that the best most talented riders should get the most track time? If that were the case how would others ever hope to improve and compete?

We all pay the same money to enter, the same money to travel, put the same effort into our bikes, so we should all have the same opportunity to get on track, simple as that As it used to stand Superbikes have been the poor cousins only ever having getting half the opportunity's compared to other classes. This move is redressing what has been a major imbalance. To argue that the other classes are suffering is non-sensical, they still have the opportunity to spend more time on track than Superbikes do.

Yup, Clubman's can only enter one class....but they have the opportunity and incentive to step up and increase their race time.

Or we could have just left things as they were, and watched the few remaining superbike pilots move to other classes, and the class dies a quiet death. There is less for a sponsor to get excited about, we are further away from seeing our young talent in WSB/MotoGP, further from TV coverage, etc.

I really don't see your problem. How does someone supporting a superbike class differ from them deciding to support streetstocks or 600's or any class? Why would you attack them for it? If Joes Plumbing backs a streetstock bike then after having a good time and/or getting good exposure decides to then support the class as a whole they should be applauded. Instead we have whinging why other classes aren't eligible to compete.

LG are putting a great effort into resurrecting Superbike/F1, and instead of whinging, get your arse on a superbike and join in the fun.

[Shaun P]

Mate it's not me "whingeing" at all. Read again, I reckon that if you can ride a smaller, less powerful bike then if you qualify then you should be able to enter what ever you can. No one forced anyone to buy and race a thousand cc bike, they chose it themselves. And if some one else chose to ride a six hundred, and can ride it faster than a bigger bike, well, good on them. But now class LG get their own race, at the expense of ALL the other entrants track time, cos they can't compete against six hundreds on a level playing field? And it costs the same for clubmans, and they can't cross enter, and it's usually clubmans races that get cut if there's problems elsewhere. Fair for all is what I am saying.

There are 2 things happening here, the creation of a national superstock 1000 class and more winter track time to make it even out currently what 600's etc already get. 600's can still cross enter into the other F1 race/s, argue with yourself if you want, you might get somewhere. :wacko:

[driftn]

[QUOTE=ktm
No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?[/QUOTE]



How to turn a good positive thread in to another wank fest.

Cut a long story short, Its called SUPER BIKE tell me when has there been a 600cc super bike? 600cc are able to get 4 races 1000cc only get 2 thats hardly fair is it. If you actually grew a pair and did decide to take your super puke racing you would be bound to see where the rest of us are coming from.
Now go and play around on NZ dating or some thing.

[White trash]

make sense??
No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?[/QUOTE]
Got nothing to do with pettiness, why are there no 600s racing in the Superbike class at NAtionals or street meetings?

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPERBIKES

[j-lo69]

No it doesn't. If you are so petty as to deny more talented riders on smaller bikes the opportunity to race with you, on an otherwise empty grid, well, what can I say. And what about all the other racers who have also paid to enter, and only race in one class, shall we make a special class for them too? Say, for example, the Samsung second chance series?
Got nothing to do with pettiness, why are there no 600s racing in the Superbike class at NAtionals or street meetings?

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPERBIKES[/QUOTE]


its a good thing for superbikes agreed.
but is it really going to draw a full grid of superbikes???
L G an vmcc have made a big move an invested alot which is good for the sport but is a extra race or 2 gona make the diff? i find it hard to beleve.
is it gona get people to buy a thou an race all year?
good on L G an vmcc gess well see how well this class is gona be.

[White trash]

Got nothing to do with pettiness, why are there no 600s racing in the Superbike class at NAtionals or street meetings?

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPERBIKES


its a good thing for superbikes agreed.
but is it really going to draw a full grid of superbikes???
L G an vmcc have made a big move an invested alot which is good for the sport but is a extra race or 2 gona make the diff? i find it hard to beleve.
is it gona get people to buy a thou an race all year?
good on L G an vmcc gess well see how well this class is gona be.[/QUOTE]
You're right, I doubt it will fill a grid with Superbikes, however it's got to be a step in the right direction at getting a few more 1000cc bikes to the meetings.

3 races a day in stead of two, and the promise of a big fat prize at the end of it.

[Shaun]

its a good thing for superbikes agreed.
but is it really going to draw a full grid of superbikes???
L G an vmcc have made a big move an invested alot which is good for the sport but is a extra race or 2 gona make the diff? i find it hard to beleve.
is it gona get people to buy a thou an race all year?
good on L G an vmcc gess well see how well this class is gona be.
You're right, I doubt it will fill a grid with Superbikes, however it's got to be a step in the right direction at getting a few more 1000cc bikes to the meetings.

3 races a day in stead of two, and the promise of a big fat prize at the end of it.[/QUOTE]


All that this new race plan is going to do, is allow some SLOWISH rider on a 1000cc bike, to get a better finish result, with out the 600zzz being there

So how is this actually doing any good for our sport of racing, apart from just proving that you NEED MONEY to make things happen

[flame]

Got nothing to do with pettiness, why are there no 600s racing in the Superbike class at NAtionals or street meetings?

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUPERBIKESNO! because its EXPENSIVE to enter two classes at National level or on the Streets, unlike club level!



All that this new race plan is going to do, is allow some SLOWISH rider on a 1000cc bike, to get a better finish result, with out the 600zzz being there


My point exactly, I have access to an F1 bike, so I could enter, but thats not getting the 'premier' riders out there (so I wouldn't bother). Yet top national riders which deserve to race in the 'elite' class are denied because of cc's?

Truely I admire LG and VMCC for taking a step forward, but surely its our National stars that should be given the chance to qualify for an 'elite' class. One extra class at club level surely won't inspire people to buy a thou:scratch:

Surely it would be a more spectacular class to allow the Top 30 fastest times of the day, like I said before. Maximise the grid, and and make it a race for 'rider's'.......not bikes! surely the thou's wouldn't miss out! or would they??

[White trash]

NO! because its EXPENSIVE to enter two classes at National level or on the Streets, unlike club level!



Wrong sorry luv. You are not permitted to enter a 600cc in the Superbike class at National level. Take a peak at the rules. Also, most street rac events, do not permit the cross entry of a single bike between F2 and F1.


Surely it would be a more spectacular class to allow the Top 30 fastest times of the day, like I said before. Maximise the grid, and and make it a race for 'rider's'.......not bikes! surely the thou's wouldn't miss out! or would they??

Good idea that actually. a Top 30 race would be spectacular, have you put that suggestion forward to VMCC for consideration? It'd get my vote for backing.

In regards to the issue of a prize being offered for a "Superbike" only class, it was one persons idea to make the 1000cc classs more attractive, he ssubmitted an idea on how best he thought it could be done, the VMCC race committee saw fit to make it happen.

[GSVR]

My point exactly, I have access to an F1 bike, so I could enter, but thats not getting the 'premier' riders out there (so I wouldn't bother). Yet top national riders which deserve to race in the 'elite' class are denied because of cc's?

You have access to an F1 bike but you'd much rather be riding BEARS right?

From this spectators point of veiw I would rather have seen F1 and F2 combined. On Manfeild if you can't blow away a 600 on a litre bike you possibly should consider learning to ride better on a 600 first. They are alot cheaper to run as well.

And the extra race could have been an all Bears afair. I reacon people would be surprised at the amount of really good bears bikes around that aren't being raced.

Open Bears for the Nationals too.


:jerry:

[Shaun]

You have access to an F1 bike but you'd much rather be riding BEARS right?

From this spectators point of veiw I would rather have seen F1 and F2 combined. On Manfeild if you can't blow away a 600 on a litre bike you possibly should consider learning to ride better on a 600 first. They are alot cheaper to run as well.

And the extra race could have been an all Bears afair. I reacon people would be surprised at the amount of really good bears bikes around that aren't being raced.

Open Bears for the Nationals too.


:jerry:


+1 to this post

[GIXser]

I cant believe the feedback people, Shaun its not about the money !!, The LG team are merely promoting the superbike class, nothing else !!

There is no reason why someone cant approach vmcc and set up a 600 class.. oh hang on.. thats right there is a 600 class already !!!

The LG team is quitely working in the background to get some Tv coverage for vmcc, is that not good for the sport either ??

The more we can promote the sport with a premier class, the more attention it will get, and yes people get over it ... it is a premier class..!!

I had an idea (and ill give it some more thought) i was going to invite a winner of a 600 class to ride one of the LG superbikes in the race (all expenses paid... but if too many people are winging about it i wont bother.. all LG are trying to do folks... is promote the sport .
VMCC saw some benefit in this.. please feel free to come up with some better ideas!!! other than that please stop ya pessimism !!

[Shaun]

I cant believe the feedback people, Shaun its not about the money !!, The LG team are merely promoting the superbike class, nothing else !!

There is no reason why someone cant approach vmcc and set up a 600 class.. oh hang on.. thats right there is a 600 class already !!!

The LG team is quitely working in the background to get some Tv coverage for vmcc, is that not good for the sport either ??

The more we can promote the sport with a premier class, the more attention it will get, and yes people get over it ... it is a premier class..!!

I had an idea (and ill give it some more thought) i was going to invite a winner of a 600 class to ride one of the LG superbikes in the race (all expenses paid... but if too many people are winging about it i wont bother.. all LG are trying to do folks... is promote the sport .
VMCC saw some benefit in this.. please feel free to come up with some better ideas!!!

Deleted MY POST as it is not needed to be on here

[Shaun P]

Well your last Paragraph just blew any real street cred you had going for LG dude, best start again eh


"Quote" Bollocks, all LG and you and your brother are doing, is promote the name LG, it will NOT help the Vic Club in any way, just give your sponsors more coverage of there name, but good on ya

PS, the riders do have the write to voice there opinions on this Eddie, and replying in the way you just have, does not help at all dude, and I know you are a bigger man than that

Maybe, but inst that the whole idea...

Sorry to say it but at least their words arnt just talk :Oops:

[Clivoris]

Great to see this discussion occurring. The intention of this class was clearly set out above. I do struggle to understand why, when one group of people get something, there is another group who react as if something has been taken away from them. Adding this race/class will not take anything away from anyone. We cannot please everyone and we wanted something different, not an extra F2/F1 combined race, which is what would make up the majority of the top 30.
We get a lot of suggestions from people about introducing classes that their bikes will be competitive in. They have some validity but what it often seems to boil down to is "I don't want to race if I can't be at the front". All I can say is, if it's that important to you, get a competitive bike that fits into an existing class, don't try to change the weather because you don't like raincoats. If you don't want to, fine. There are plenty of people out there racing with no show of winning, but having a bloody ball growing their skills and hanging-off with like-minded mentalists. It isn't all about being at the front on a competitive bike, and there is a class for every bike. So what if you can't cross-enter on it. Frankly that's a weak excuse. At Delboy's funeral, someone who posts on here modififed a quote by Hemingway; Motorcycle racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games for children. Motorcycle racing is not a game for children.
I am a huge fan of bears racing and would love to get a bears class going at VMCC. Who wants to decide which class gets kicked out to accomodate it? To those who think we should have a bears meeting, come and get involved with the VMCC committee. Take RESPONSIBILITY for organising it. How many of these awesome bears racing v-twins turned up for the Open Twin class at the Manfield round of the Nationals? Talk is cheap people.
Honestly, if someone wants to run a North Island Sound of Thunder I am willing to support the discussion with VMCC, but you would need to make it happen. The current committee are doing as much as we can.
Thanks for the supportive comments.

[Skunk]

If you want something to happen you must grab the bull by the horns and do it. Eddie and co stepped up with a plan and approached VMCC with it. VMCC saw merit (and had heard of some mutterings in the background about lack of track time for Superbikes - though no-one directly approached them) and added it in.
Dan and Trevor have come up with a set of rules that break '250 Streetstocks' out onto their own. No longer are they 'street stock'.

Don't whinge - do something.

[Tony.OK]

Crickey......................funny how a good idea can upset so many when if run well it doesn't have much, if any effect on them at all.

I mean no one is having their class cut, cross entry for classes is the same as it was last year, there were no BEARS classes last year and I don't recall any moaning, the F2 riders got their share at F1...........alot were too buggered to do all 4 races anyway.

How is a BEARS race any more user friendly than a specific SBK race, can a Jappa owner enter?..................No?................maybe we should have a Jap only class?.......................isn't that the same thing?


There will always be someone who feels hard done by, if its such a raw deal, why not join in? :woohoo:

[flame]

You have access to an F1 bike but you'd much rather be riding BEARS right?






They are BOTH BEARs :), but you are right, I much rather be riding BEARs.

[flame]

And the extra race could have been an all Bears afair. I reacon people would be surprised at the amount of really good bears bikes around that aren't being raced.

Open Bears for the Nationals too.


:jerry:

Now that would put a smile on all the Triumph, Ducati, Aprilia and KTM guys n gals faces :):woohoo: there is a LOT of them around.
I HAVE spoken to VMCC about this in the recent past, and it was not taken overly positively :( (a tight schedule was mentioned!!) . And as for the open twins support class at the Nats??? I was unaware of it until the week before. Yep my own fault for not checking, but I had written of doing the Nats because of costs (Paeroa and Sound of thunder in the same month) and therefore didn't check the program earlier.

Anyhoo....looks like we are not supposed to be discussing the new class issues on here, voicing opinions often gets taken as a 'whinge' when your actually only trying to throw around a few ideas :done:

[ktm]

How to turn a good positive thread in to another wank fest.

If you actually grew a pair and did decide to take your super puke racing you would be bound to see where the rest of us are coming from.
Now go and play around on NZ dating or some thing.

That's what I love about this forum. Some people just can't handle debate, or any opinions other than their own, and so have to get personal when they run out of logic. It's an easy game, and one which I must say I can play too.
So young driftn,(I imagine you are young from the tone of your comments) FYI and anyone else who's interested, the Super Duke is my road bike , but I raced it last year, in the Winter Series and had a great time. I will race again when I wish to, perhaps in this years series. Come and say hello if you like.
As for growing a pair, mine are working fine and I have kids to prove it.
Now go and repeat your abusive comments to all the other people who are disagreeing with your view of things, say starting with Shaun, if YOU have the balls. By the way, what's your relationship to team LG? Family ties perhaps? Bye bye

[cowpoos]

street cred don't get me started!



"Quote" Bollocks, all LG and you and your brother are doing, is promote the name LG, it will NOT help the Vic Club in any way, just give your sponsors more coverage of there name, but good on ya

These things have a habbit of being a symbiont circle...like negociating in bussiness shaun...its the art of everyone settling on a plan,system,agreement....where everyone leaves feeling they have the biggest slice of the pie.

Vic club have another sponsor...potential for some TV coverage [potential for other sponsors to get TV coverage]...
Potential for said sponsor to like what they are doing..increase sponsorship...how is this a bad thing??

and answer me one thing? is LG's money better spent sponsoring racing....or getting advertising in the media??


PS, the riders do have the write to voice there opinions on this Eddie, and replying in the way you just have, does not help at all dude, and I know you are a bigger man than that

Yes they do...no doubt about it.

And to be fair...if you had extended your self to put the effort into something you thought would benifit the sport and was critisied about it...you would reply in similar fashion...as you have done in the past...and for totally good reason too.

I think people should give this idea a fair go. the 600 riders are NOT being hard done by...it does not effect them...as it does NOT effect other classes...so whats the big deal??

[cowpoos]

That's what I love about this forum. Some people just can't handle debate, or any opinions other than their own, and so have to get personal when they run out of logic. It's an easy game, and one which I must say I can play too.

Your right...but if you lack logic...expect to be pick on.




FYI and anyone else who's interested, the Super Duke is my road bike , but I raced it last year, in the Winter Series and had a great time. I will race again when I wish to, perhaps in this years series. Come and say hello if you like.

we'll see you in superbikes this year then??




As for growing a pair, mine are working fine and I have kids to prove it.



sounds more like you wife owns them...




Now go and repeat your abusive comments to all the other people who are disagreeing with your view of things, say starting with Shaun, if YOU have the balls

why is this relevant?? maybe refer to my first comment. hmmm

Bye Bye :Oops:

[ktm]

Well another personal attack, COWPOOS your name describes you, obviously.
You come and say hello too.

[ktm]

And why are you so busy fighting other peoples battles Cowpoos, as I said, your name defines you. SHITSTIRRER. Now go and decompose.

[cowpoos]

You come and say hello too.

Sure...


And why are you so busy fighting other peoples battles Cowpoos, as I said, your name defines you. SHITSTIRRER. Now go and decompose.

oh...are we name calling...well...you have a little penis!!

[GIXser]

Guys /gals..lets just go racing aye... and have fun...

[ktm]

Sure...



oh...are we name calling...well...you have a little penis!!

And you're obviously an irritating little prick. Goodbye.

[Skunk]

Wow. That was cool. :killingme

See you all on the grid eh?

Eddie; you done good by me. Superbikes needs a bit of a push ATM and this may do it. Worth a crack, eh?

[Marknz]

As a likely tail-end clubbie racer, but one who is eligible to race in F2 and prossibly F1 "IF" I was quick enough.... good on LG and VMCC for this initiative! I wish you all well and hope that something good comes of it for all domestic racing.

[Danger Dave]

Guys /gals..lets just go racing aye... and have fun...

Now this sounds like a good idea:Punk:

ps i think an extra class will be fantastic, sometimes racing twice in one day just isn't enough

[Whitebait]

Quote:
Originally Posted by GIXser
Guys /gals..lets just go racing aye... and have fun...

I'm with him! VMCC do an awesome job :2thumbsup

Maybe some of you guys need to spend less time on the net and more time out running!!!!! Drop a few Kg's and drop a second or two!!

Any support for our sport is good support GOOD ON YA LG!!!!:yes:

P.s F3 is the premier class the rest of ya's are just program filling aye Clive.......:girlfight:

[mossy1200]

Thats not particularly fair Hun...[and I think its been addressed]...if you drove all the way from auckland to race f2...and didn't make qualifing because a whole heap of F3 riders out qualified you...so you had to go home...you'd be pissed!![well you also get pissed...and that fair enough too...mind you..you'd get piss regardless :P ] especially if you made the 115% cut off.

I plan to run my post classic in formula 1 but would stand down if i have knocked out a f1 bike in qualifying giving them the chance to run from rear of grid before they got pushed into clubmans.An extra race for those who dont have more than two races to run is a good idea and may incourage more guys to buy 1000cc bikes who have been discouraged by only 2 races.
Is this not the reason why they are doing this.If people want to run 600s in 4 races and then the 5th also are not getting a little greedy for track time.If they are so much in need of more track time on the day they could buy a budget second bike and run that in another class.

[gatch]

This is unreal..

Hey guys heres an idea, lets have some more racing.. NOOOO BOO FUCKIN HOOO WHAT ABOUT MEEEE Bitch Bitch Bitch.

A company is giving money to the sport.. Who gives a rats cock if they want their stickers pasted around, the walls around the tracks are lined with them already. Also there is the chance FOR CLUB RACING TO BE ON TV, what better way to attract more entries..

Another thing, the un-initiated heathens amongst us with not enthusiasm for racing don't want to see slow bikes, its the fast machines that draw crowds, crowds bring money, etc etc.

Cheers LG !

[Sketchy_Racer]

I just want to say thanks to LG but also VMCC, the club is run by a bunch of volunteers that truly bust their balls for us to all go racing. Getting backing of major companies like LG is great for the sport, even if it means some of the other classes that aren't supported by them were to take a small hit, this is what the sport needs and it is worth the compromise to keep the people laying down the green stuff happy. In this case none of the classes are taking a hit so it's a win win situation. If we can accommodate and show return to LG (which will be difficult all things given) then there is a much higher chance that other major companies will see the value in supporting motorcycle racing which in turn equals more money, which equals more people, competitors and the works. Rome wasn't built in a day but I think if we can encourage more major sponsors to support motorcycle racing we will be laying foundations to build a much greater racing scene than what we are currently seeing.

And I would love to be out there on a superbike, but I better learn to race a 600 first!

Cheers,

-Glen

[slowpoke]

So how is this actually doing any good for our sport of racing, apart from just proving that you NEED MONEY to make things happen

I disagree mate. The extra race hasn't cost a bean yet riders have been encouraged to race in a class that is dying. That has to be a good thing and the LG support just makes it that much better again. Surely you'd be happy to see our young riders with a more viable competitive Superbike class to race in in the future?

For the record, I have got fuck all money and also made a submission to VMCC so it ain't all about LG$$$.


On Manfeild if you can't blow away a 600 on a litre bike you possibly should consider learning to ride better on a 600 first.


Have you even seen Jay Lawrence, Choppa, Sam Smith, Brian Wood or Johnny Burkhart in full flight on a 600? Have you seen their times? To say any bloke on a thou who can't beat those guys should consider another class is just plain ignorant. It wasn't that long ago I can recall Craig Shirriffs rocking up to Manfeild on a 600 and smoking the whole F1 field, as did Jay Lawrence who followed him home. Go and have a look at the time sheets mate, and rethink your suggestion.

Based on your "logic" very 600 rider who can't beat Glen Williams or Jason Easton around Manfeild should consider F3? And every F3 rider beaten by Avalon Biddle should consider riding Streetstock? Get real, it's club racing mate, you choose a bike or class that appeals to you and if you can qualify you race in it, simple as that. Not all of us have access to tuition, tracks, sponsored rides, time to practice, time off work, started while we are still in nappies etc etc. This may be a revelation but some of us are just in with the aim of having fun, not becoming the next Andrew Stroud. Some of us might only make it to 2 race meetings a year with the odd trackday, vs 15 race meetings and every track day on the calendar for someone else. Some of us may be relatively slow, some of us may be world class fast but it's club racing, not the Nat's, so as long as we're all having fun it's all good and whoever happens to be fastest is virtually irrelevant.


I plan to run my post classic in formula 1 but would stand down if i have knocked out a f1 bike in qualifying giving them the chance to run from rear of grid before they got pushed into clubmans.An extra race for those who dont have more than two races to run is a good idea and may incourage more guys to buy 1000cc bikes who have been discouraged by only 2 races.
Is this not the reason why they are doing this.If people want to run 600s in 4 races and then the 5th also are not getting a little greedy for track time.If they are so much in need of more track time on the day they could buy a budget second bike and run that in another class.

Well said Mossy

[GSVR]

Have you even seen Jay Lawrence, Choppa, Sam Smith, Brian Wood or Johnny Burkhart in full flight on a 600? Have you seen their times? To say any bloke on a thou who can't beat those guys should consider another class is just plain ignorant. It wasn't that long ago I can recall Craig Shirriffs rocking up to Manfeild on a 600 and smoking the whole F1 field, as did Jay Lawrence who followed him home. Go and have a look at the time sheets mate, and rethink your suggestion.

Based on your "logic" very 600 rider who can't beat Glen Williams or Jason Easton around Manfeild should consider F3? And every F3 rider beaten by Avalon Biddle should consider riding Streetstock? Get real, it's club racing mate, you choose a bike or class that appeals to you and if you can qualify you race in it, simple as that. Not all of us have access to tuition, tracks, sponsored rides, time to practice, time off work, started while we are still in nappies etc etc. This may be a revelation but some of us are just in with the aim of having fun, not becoming the next Andrew Stroud. Some of us might only make it to 2 race meetings a year with the odd trackday, vs 15 race meetings and every track day on the calendar for someone else. Some of us may be relatively slow, some of us may be world class fast but it's club racing, not the Nat's, so as long as we're all having fun it's all good and whoever happens to be fastest is virtually irrelevant.
Well said Mossy


Not at all and as you well know from most of my other posts on here I campain hard for the low budget rider that wants to enjoy racing and not neccessarilly be the fastest. Thats what all the Standard Production bike porposal was about but now its watered down so close to the orignal rules all its become is an administrators nightmare!

Going by past F1 entries at the Vic Club you have 30 entries in F1 but lucky if 10 of them are F1 bikes and then those F1 bikes are of very different laptimes. So you have an F1 race of 10 riders and the feild gets very stringy very fast and guys end up lapping on their own. At least with 600s in the mix riders get the chance to race against someone instead of lapping alone. Thats what makes racing fun right?

You did notice the popcorn at the end of my post to temper down the radical right.

Have you even seen Jay Lawrence, Choppa, Sam Smith, Brian Wood or Johnny Burkhart in full flight on a 600? Who are these people? REDBULL drinkers?

[Shaun]

Guys /gals..lets just go racing aye... and have fun...



Agreed. But please try to fill the grid UP so IF and when it gets on TV, the sport looks good, NOT just a Club scene thing

# Not knocking the VMCC in any way with this comment.

[Clivoris]

Agreed. But please try to fill the grid UP so IF and when it gets on TV, the sport looks good, NOT just a Club scene thing

# Not knocking the VMCC in any way with this comment.

Once the cameras are there they wont be able to resist filming the awesomely sexy F2 grid:hug:

[Shaun]

Once the cameras are there they wont be able to resist filming the awesomely sexy F2 grid:hug:



Positive thoughts again Good on ya

[Rob Taylor]

Well,looks like the LG superbike class will be good for all F1 bikes including BEARS...Right? Lets hope bears riders realise this to.I can see Peter Tanner pushing hard in this class..Will be a awsume fun class for riders and spectators,,,It takes alot of time & effort,,,,Well done LG,,,, So come on BEARS riders ,get in behind this new class & lets go racing

[GIXser]

Well,looks like the LG superbike class will be good for all F1 bikes including BEARS...Right? Lets hope bears riders realise this to.I can see Peter Tanner pushing hard in this class..Will be a awsume fun class for riders and spectators,,,It takes alot of time & effort,,,,Well done LG,,,, So come on BEARS riders ,get in behind this new class & lets go racing


Now there ya go.. well said Rob, it would be great for bears to get involved too, ...........oh shit and there goes my top ten placing...:(:argh:

[ryanf062]

What do I do? I raced the winter series last year and it was awesome and planed to do it again this year but I am seventeen and no long get the $15 entry fee per round which makes it hard since I only have my after school job to support it all.
I think it would be great if the VMCC could have some sort of subsidy for students instead of it being an age thing.

[cowpoos]

What do I do? I raced the winter series last year and it was awesome and planed to do it again this year but I am seventeen and no long get the $15 entry fee per round which makes it hard since I only have my after school job to support it all.
I think it would be great if the VMCC could have some sort of subsidy for students instead of it being an age thing.
approuch some places for sponsership of your entry fee's....RIng and make an appointment with sport hawkes bay...and discuss with them the best way to do this and how to do it. I'm sure they will help you as your currently at school :)

Good luck :)

[Shaun]

What do I do? I raced the winter series last year and it was awesome and planed to do it again this year but I am seventeen and no long get the $15 entry fee per round which makes it hard since I only have my after school job to support it all.
I think it would be great if the VMCC could have some sort of subsidy for students instead of it being an age thing.




VMCC DO already subsidise the races mate, THE WHOLE club is run by people who do it for FREE and from passion

The best subsidy any one could ask for, but hang in there, there are more lawns to mow and windows to wash out there yet

[Rob Taylor]

Now there ya go.. well said Rob, it would be great for bears to get involved too, ...........oh shit and there goes my top ten placing...:(:argh:

Ok we need to fill the grid now.How about running a F1 "Bears" class incorporated in the LG F1 races....Maybe a "Bears Cup" to win,sponsored by KTL Motorcycles or is that stealing LGs thunder?????At the least it would get more Ducati , Aprilia,MV,KTM etc participation in F1....How think you oh wise GIXser.?

[Skunk]

At the least it would get more Ducati , Aprilia,MV,KTM etc participation in F1My ignorance is showing here... Can they not race in F1 already? Or are you suggesting that F1 BEARS should be in the LG Superbike (not F1) class?

[Rob Taylor]

My ignorance is showing here... Can they not race in F1 already? Or are you suggesting that F1 BEARS should be in the Superbike (not F1) class?

Yes they can already race in F1.Was just trying to get more bikes on the start grid in the superbike class.A lot of F1 Bears (996cc up)riders will not race heads up against hotrod jap bikes ,for obvious reasons.So if they had their own class to be in,(in superbike)they might just be starters when the flag drops & it also allows "Bears" racing to get a foot in the door,so to speak,in the VMCC winter series.....Sorry i didnt explain properly.Just an idea thats all..."Its a cunning plan,so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel";)

[Racey Rider]

Is it just my old computer, or is there really no confirmed entries showing on this (http://www.vicclub.co.nz/tiki-page.php?pageName=2009ConfirmedEntries) vic club page?

[Skunk]

Is it just my old computer, or is there really no confirmed entries showing on this (http://www.vicclub.co.nz/tiki-page.php?pageName=2009ConfirmedEntries) vic club page?
That is not your computer...

[GIXser]

Ok we need to fill the grid now.How about running a F1 "Bears" class incorporated in the LG F1 races....Maybe a "Bears Cup" to win,sponsored by KTL Motorcycles or is that stealing LGs thunder?????At the least it would get more Ducati , Aprilia,MV,KTM etc participation in F1....How think you oh wise GIXser.?

mate they can run allready, be good to fill the grid with whatever 1000 cc bikes lets get it done...and to be honest lets face it some of the ducs or whatever will smoke me.... i ain the fastest.. but by god im the best looking !!

[Rob Taylor]

mate they can run allready, be good to fill the grid with whatever 1000 cc bikes lets get it done...and to be honest lets face it some of the ducs or whatever will smoke me.... i ain the fastest.. but by god im the best looking !!

Yea i know,,Was just trying to give extra incentive..Thats all:wacko::wacko:;)

[roadracingoldfart]

and to be honest lets face it some of the ducs or whatever will smoke me.... i ain the fastest.. but by god im the best looking !!


Insert TUI advert here :crazy: :whistle:

Get a perm Douglas :gob:

[budda]

VMCC DO already subsidise the races mate, THE WHOLE club is run by people who do it for FREE and from passion

The best subsidy any one could ask for, but hang in there, there are more lawns to mow and windows to wash out there yet


Spot on again, young Ginga

[Tony.OK]

mate they can run allready, be good to fill the grid with whatever 1000 cc bikes lets get it done...and to be honest lets face it some of the ducs or whatever will smoke me.... i ain the fastest.. but by god im the best looking !!


Yea i know,,Was just trying to give extra incentive..Thats all:wacko::wacko:;)

Ohhh man ya gotta lend me that 999 just so I can smoke that pretty boy and ruffle his hair up on the way past:yes:




Hey Ed....................can ya PM me the details on which hair dye you use? Turns out a few people have noticed some of my greys that are showing:whistle:

[Mystic13]

mate they can run allready, be good to fill the grid with whatever 1000 cc bikes lets get it done...and to be honest lets face it some of the ducs or whatever will smoke me.... i ain the fastest.. but by god im the best looking !!

you forgot modest and humble.

I've just read through the whole thread and if ever there was signs of the tall poppy thing running this would be it.

I read heaps of threads for months about lack of sponsors, lack of TV coverage... rant, rant.

These guys have already lifted their game, and now they're bringing in sponsorship for everyone and seeking TV coverage and a whole bunch of people have a problem with it.

To me the whole thing seems real simple

- you welcome the sponsorship with open arms
- you do everything you can to get bikes on the grid
- only good things can come from this and it's way overdue
- it's great to see a club, club members and riders working to improve the sports appeal
- this is a pivotal point and you've seen a couple of riders lay it on for their sponsor and the sponsor has responded. It was and is a win-win deal.
- now collectively as racers you need to dust off every thou you can find because this could be win-win for the sport as a whole.
- and I mean even if you have to borrow one.

If you think LG aren't serious you only have to look at the motor racing.

I'm guessing TV coverage means more and bigger sponsors and more spectators.

The question is not whether a 600 rider can beat a thou. The question is do you want sponsorship and coverage of the sport to improve. Do you want crowds. If this goes well there will be a sponsorship trickle down meaning even tail enders get sponsors.

So right now, thinking solely about the sport... what do you think would be the best way to respond to LG sponsorhip.

Personally I think you need to get people phoning around and finding superbikes for the grid, even if you have to give them free entry and a small contribution. If you piss all over this sponsorship and don't make it work then you only have yourselves to blame for where the sport is now.

Surely you can dig up bikes and sponsors and riders for them?

I've read this whole thread and it seems to me there has been a lot of looking at this the wrong way round. The Vic Club seems to have understood and looked at it the right way. And LG are giving away prizes per meet. When was the last time that happened.

Seriously take a moment and smell the roses. You either water them and nurture them or let them die.



That's me thoughts and GREAT JOB to ALL THOSE who put this together and THOSE that turn up to SUPPORT IT.

[ktm]

you forgot modest and humble.

If you think LG aren't serious you only have to look at the motor racing.

I'm guessing TV coverage means more and bigger sponsors and more spectators.

Seriously take a moment and smell the roses. You either water them and nurture them or let them die.

When it's all laid out like this it makes a lot more sense. Well explained that man.
Good luck to all concerned in getting it to work as there could be positive flow on effects for all road racing if it does.

[Tony.OK]

Yep..............very well articulated Mystic.

I'm sure that is exactly what Ed and LG are aiming at.........................take away peoples emotions (yes I'm guilty of these too) and ya get the plain facts.

TOP POST!!!!!!

[dickytoo]

Personally I think you need to get people phoning around and finding superbikes for the grid, even if you have to give them free entry and a small contribution.




I hear that a certain D McAdam will be racing in the superbikes class again this year.

All donations gratefully accepted!

[Clivoris]

I hear that a certain D McAdam will be racing in the superbikes class again this year.

All donations gratefully accepted!

Would be great to have him back competing. He has been my favorite racer to watch through the Wanganui esses since ages ago.

[dickytoo]

he's entered for the whole series.

hopefully we can get him to both wanganui and paeroa this year. he did bloody well the last time he was in wanganui.

makes me wish i was back in enzed again.

[Rob Taylor]

Ohhh man ya gotta lend me that 999 just so I can smoke that pretty boy and ruffle his hair up on the way past:yes:




Hey Ed....................can ya PM me the details on which hair dye you use? Turns out a few people have noticed some of my greys that are showing:whistle:

Ok,I will see what we can do:2thumbsup.....Might be able to give you a test ride or 2;) cheers

[Tony.OK]

Ok,I will see what we can do:2thumbsup.....Might be able to give you a test ride or 2;) cheers

:hug::woohoo: ..................only after Miss Flame's had a ride though apparantly:crybaby:



Hehe.................hell hath no fury and all:yes::innocent:

[Rob Taylor]

:hug::woohoo: ..................only after Miss Flame's had a ride though apparantly:crybaby:



Hehe.................hell hath no fury and all:yes::innocent:

Not a truer thing said:whistle:.Miss Flame will be in charge of it,thats for sure;)

[GSVR]

Not a truer thing said:whistle:.Miss Flame will be in charge of it,thats for sure;)


Maybe someone should organise a cup for the lady with the most points for the series like the old codgers cup. Theres a few contenders this year. The "LB Cup" wonder if she would approve. Just an idea!