Broken bones; A-weight-ting is the hardest paart

[F5 Dave]

3 months. I hadn’t really gone more than a week without riding a bike since I was 17. 3 bleeding months, it sucks. All for a silly fall on the slowest corner of the track in practise. 6-8 weeks they said for broken clavicle. Yer kiddin! Sheesh.

But 3 months on & it’s still broken.

Now they say they will plate it. But I have to wait for ACC to approve it, maybe 4, 6, perhaps 7 weeks. Private med ins won’t pay unless ACC refuse to pay for it. & then another 6 weeks until it will have mended. I guess it comes out & hopefully there won’t be much recovery time after that.

So cue another 3 months. Have I mentioned this sucks?:argh:

Also have to consider how mobile I will be, wife is 1 week overdue eta for our first child. Timing isn’t particularly flash.

How have other people found recovery time after this sort of op? Removing the plate op?

[sunhuntin]

aw hell mate! sorry, cant help with recovery times, but wish you all the best and a speedy recovery. and congrats on the impending sprog! maybe get your wife to ask her midwife if she qualifies for a bit of in-home help during the first few months of babies life. i know parents of multiples can have in home help for x amount of hours per week... might help to lift the pressure a bit.

[White trash]

Those Kiddy bikes sure do bite bad at times eh Dave.

Chin up ol' son, just think of all the crazy hot up inventions you'll be able to implement over the upcoming months. I bet your fellow competitors are inwardly smiling at the thought of someone else being able to win a couple of races for once too :)

[thehollowmen]

Ouch, best wishes

But on the bright side, you have time off to winterize the bikes and strip everything down and add all the go faster bits!

[James Deuce]

Oooooo, *sucks teeth* (teeth fall out), at your age, I reckon it'll be years before you can pick your nose properly, but you will have an awesome wrist mounted barometer.

Congrats too, btw. I had no idea. But then I am a lousy person.

[tigertim20]

hard luck mate, hope you get all mended soon so we can hear more about that 2smoker of yours!

[JayRacer37]

Ooooohhhhh boy can I sympathise with you there. Just over three months for me so far and it gets harder and harder...
Conrats on the baby Dave, well done :)

[F5 Dave]

Hey Jay, have been thinking how things were going for you from time to time, hope it all sorts itself out properly for you. I did reflect that maybe I've been a bit whinney, just some times you feel a bit sad for yourself & forget there are others that are doing it tougher.

[varminter]

I used to have a clavicle, never could get the hang of playing it so switched to the trombone.
Get well soon and congrat's to you and 'er indoors.

[PrincessBandit]

3 months. ... 6-8 weeks they said for broken clavicle. Yer kiddin! Sheesh.

But 3 months on & it’s still broken.


So cue another 3 months. Have I mentioned this sucks?:argh:

Also have to consider how mobile I will be, wife is 1 week overdue eta for our first child. Timing isn’t particularly flash.

How have other people found recovery time after this sort of op? Removing the plate op?

Eeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk!!! Please don't say scary stuff to me like "3 months". You have my sympathies as I'm recovering from a broken clavicle at the moment. Mind was a clean break across the bone 6 weeks ago and the biggest struggle I've had is with all the muscles in my right shoulder "seizing" and tightening through lack of use. I have waaaaaay more movement in my arm now and will find out in a few days whether the bone has met yet. I did ride my 250 a couple of weekends ago, just to see how my arm would hold up but the doc gave me a bit of an earchewing over it!

Hope you recover well, and all the best for the addition to your family.

[crynsie]

i did my clavicle last year. It has healed but slightly crooked. I got an osteopath to do her mumbo jumbo stuff to it about 6 weeks after the crash (when I could bear anyone touching it)
Worked really well and it covered (in part) by ACC. Now have full movement and no issues...

Worked for me, might help you get back up and running sooner

[dangerous]

3 months. I hadn’t really gone more than a week without riding a bike since I was 17. 3 bleeding months, it sucks. All for a silly fall on the slowest corner of the track in practise. 6-8 weeks they said for broken clavicle. Yer kiddin! Sheesh.

AYE... :gob: news just ariving via lost pidgin from the north.
I never relised you arsed up, well I spose ya do all the time so I paid no attention, when ya do this?

Sprog on the way huh, well dont worry about that SFA you can do anyway and 'wicked' no arse wiping for ya, that motion of removing a nappy is so so painfull on a bust sholder :whistle:

Best you prepair for the BOB davie, bring the sprog he/she/it can hang out with ours. ;)

[Shaun]

Hey Jay, have been thinking how things were going for you from time to time, hope it all sorts itself out properly for you. I did reflect that maybe I've been a bit whinney, just some times you feel a bit sad for yourself & forget there are others that are doing it tougher.




It goes with the Game Dave- shite eh, but that is how it is. It took 23 years of it, before I could be stopped chasing more of it

Good luck dude

[F5 Dave]

Eeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk!!! Please don't say scary stuff to me like "3 months". You have my sympathies as I'm recovering from a broken clavicle at the moment. Mind was a clean break across the bone 6 weeks ago and the biggest struggle I've had is with all the muscles in my right shoulder "seizing" and tightening through lack of use. I have waaaaaay more movement in my arm now and will find out in a few days whether the bone has met yet. I did ride my 250 a couple of weekends ago, just to see how my arm would hold up but the doc gave me a bit of an earchewing over it!

Hope you recover well, and all the best for the addition to your family.

Good luck with the x-ray. If you've been able to ride chances are you are ok now, lucky wench:crazy:. But it can take another 6 weeks for the bones to harden fully I understand so don't stress them prematurely, you don't want to rebreak them while healing or they can become a long term problem. A friend said it was 9 months before he could ride his dirtbike after trying to early. :crybaby:

[F5 Dave]

Hi

So who has had a plate in? & how long did it take to recover?

I now have ACC approval so should be on the waiting list.

How long to recover from surgery?

[saltydog]

Have I mentioned this sucks?:argh:

Geeze, I'm sitting here with a broken foot spewing I cant ride as well!
havent got the missus about to drop though!

I'd stay as immobile as possible dude. Hire lots of DVD's.

[Mom]

Non weight bearing bones are pigs to heal up! Pm MacktheKnife, he did this whole thing not so long ago, dont really want to tell you but it took a long time to come right.

Take supplements, like Vitamin C, silica, calcium and shark cartelidge and any other friggen thing that helps to build bone and heal it.

Good luck with it. How frustrating!

[MIXONE]

Hey Dave if you haven't healed in time to give your bucket a good thrashing at the next round just pm me and I'll do what I can for you.

[Kickaha]

Hi

So who has had a plate in? & how long did it take to recover?

I now have ACC approval so should be on the waiting list.

How long to recover from surgery?

pm Diesel Pig he's been through the whole thing a few years back, still got a lump of metal in his shoulder

[klingon]

Non weight bearing bones are pigs to heal up! Pm MacktheKnife, he did this whole thing not so long ago, dont really want to tell you but it took a long time to come right.

Take supplements, like Vitamin C, silica, calcium and shark cartelidge and any other friggen thing that helps to build bone and heal it.

Good luck with it. How frustrating!

Yeah Mack's the one I think of whenever I hear about this kind of thing. And yeah... it can apparently take quite a while to heal.

[Patch]

Dunno 'bout having ya wing plated - apparently the lucky ones don't need it.

2-3 weeks for the bone to knit, 4-6weeks before picking up a cup of coffee.
The longer you let the bone heal, as in not moving/using your arm the better it is for the bone to heal.

8-10 weeks is a good timeline to stick in ya brain with a further 4-6weeks physio and strength training to follow.

Rest up! your bike will wait, mine still is . . .

[F5 Dave]

Yeah after 4 months 1 week I'm pretty sure about it isn't knitting, I've had ribs heal in a month or so.

So not sure how long it will take after plate. I'll see if Diesel can chime in.

[YellowDog]

Healing takes time. Too much time by the sound of it.

Look after your lady and good luck with the baby.

[Skunk]

My arm took nine months to knit. They were talking bone graft. It had a rod in it all that time too (now hanging on my study wall).

Sorry Dave...

[CHOPPA]

Hi

So who has had a plate in? & how long did it take to recover?

I now have ACC approval so should be on the waiting list.

How long to recover from surgery?

4 weeks you will be good to go...

[F5 Dave]

Thanks Choppa, did you get it taken out after?

[Maki]

Ohmygosh, the pure torture. I dont know if I could stand a week without my bike, much less months. :shit:
I would have some severe withdrawal symptoms.

[diesel pig]

I had six months of X-Rays and "lets give it another month to knit up" Bullshit before I begged them to bolt it up. After I got over the op (about 24 hours)
I felt way better even thou I was forbidden to rise my arm above my shoulder for a week or heavy lifting for a month. I just wish I got them to do it sooner

[F5 Dave]

Cool, I didn't lift my arm that far for 3 & 1/2 months so one month should be easy. Hope they get me in soon, I want my life back. Nah gotta be honest it isn't that bad now I have movement - it is so much better I am thankful. But I want to ride & race again & not have the pain when I move wrong.:banana:

[tnarg]

Ask for the thick plate. My brother fell over and snapped his so had to go through it all again. Recovery time not to bad once the plates in. My bro was back on his dirt bike within 5 weeks. Check my profile for my break. They left it. Still gives me grief.

[CHOPPA]

Thanks Choppa, did you get it taken out after?

Yeah but only because i wanted a couple of months off work :lol:

[Baldyman]

I have just found this thread.

I broke my left clavicle about 7 weeks ago (Stupid over the bars in the whoops) and it also did not "mend" on it's own. So now I am waiting for approval from ACC to get a plate put in. I wish I had been given the plate option in the first place and not wasted 7 weeks (and counting) for it to heal on its own.

I need to get out on the bike again soon.

[F5 Dave]

oh buddy.

They leave you a min of 6 weeks & usually another 6 weeks to see if it will (& often they do). I'd rather go for a natural heal, the plate isn't without it's own downsides, but by now I'm gagging for it. I'm on 19 weeks.

The other thing they don't always say is that it may heal at 6-8 weeks (if you're lucky), but won't be full strength for another 6-8 weeks after bonding. People rebreak them with worse consequences.

Dirtbikes are bad for healing, a friend thought his was healed until rode his dirtbike & extended his recovery several months so don't push it too soon. I'm really looking forward to next Trail ride season.

I know you don't want to hear that but best get prepared, the haul may be longer than expected. Good luck.

[CHOPPA]

I have just found this thread.

I broke my left clavicle about 7 weeks ago (Stupid over the bars in the whoops) and it also did not "mend" on it's own. So now I am waiting for approval from ACC to get a plate put in. I wish I had been given the plate option in the first place and not wasted 7 weeks (and counting) for it to heal on its own.

I need to get out on the bike again soon.

I begged and pleaded even offered to pay to get my collar bone plated so i could race the next weekend and no doctor would touch it

[Kickaha]

I begged and pleaded even offered to pay to get my collar bone plated so i could race the next weekend and no doctor would touch it

I've found Doctors quite unreasonable about things like that, mine wouldn't fill in a medical clearance saying I was fit to race on the day they took my cast off

[marty]

my son is dealing with this at the moment - endo'd his bmx race bike. training for the world champs in adelaide in july :(

[F5 Dave]

I've found Doctors quite unreasonable about things like that, mine wouldn't fill in a medical clearance saying I was fit to race on the day they took my cast off

ohh which reminds me my MNZ licence is still being held by MNZ. But there is no way I could grab a brake lever with any force so not much point asking for it back yet.

[PrincessBandit]

Im still waiting too. Have my bike back (yay!!) and have done a couple of rides (:spanking:). But all is still not well, and I can tell from the discomfort in my right arm that my riding will be short trips only and not too frequent. Only enough to keep my withdrawal symptoms at bay...

I don't see the fracture clinic again till July 9th so sitting twiddling my thumbs, doing my physio (ouch kibbible) and hoping that after all this waiting there is some good news at the end. My doc too said there were definitely downsides and risks, as with any type of surgery, and they only do it if there appears to be nerve/tendon damage meaning that the arm is basically screwed. Where there is any movement and strength they prefer to go down the "let it have time to heal itself" path.

[F5 Dave]

Well good luck & don't push the test rides. I did however ride my 500 project bike to the end of the driveway & back, but using the rear brake. Felt like an achievement for the weekend. Sick of the Voltarens, but they are great

[Baldyman]

ACC have approved for part payment, now I'm just waiting for my own insurance to agree to pay the rest.

All going according to plan I will be in this afternoon for surgery.

[saltydog]

Just got my back slab taken off yesterday after 2 weeks. Foot still black with bruising. They put me in a fibreglass cast yesterday but its set at a funny angle and giving me shit. Off soon to outpaitents to get another one on.
Fuck it ay!!
Another 4 weeks until it gets xrayed again.
Sitting around the house is driving me NUTS. (cant drive as its rht foot).
Asked the nursy yesterday about driving the Falcon (auto) with me left foot but she shot me down saying no insurance if anything happens.
At least my garage is the tidest its been for years.
The tins' contents seems to be disappering faster than usual though!

[bucket boy]

I have just found this thread.

I broke my left clavicle about 7 weeks ago (Stupid over the bars in the whoops) and it also did not "mend" on it's own. So now I am waiting for approval from ACC to get a plate put in. I wish I had been given the plate option in the first place and not wasted 7 weeks (and counting) for it to heal on its own.

I need to get out on the bike again soon.

You think 7 weeks is bad, I smashed myself up bad lots of things broken one of the things was my pelvis broken in three.3 specialist said it will mend buy itself a few months later it still all over the place I start asking for other opinions fast forward 14 months now they decide to plate and screw so that was a few weeks ago now.So back on crutches again.

[F5 Dave]

Mate that sounds like a real drama.
Baldy, I can't believe you've got such quick action. Obviously not in the hutt/wgtn. Hope it works out well.

[saltydog]

Just got back from outpatients. The 2 nurseys that put my cast on yesterday were obviously not onto it.
The head woman took one look at the angle of everything and chopped it off straight away.
If youre not happy about any op, cast, plate, whatever...it pays to ask.
She said I would have healed all wrong if it was left as it was.
geeze.

[Baldyman]

Had the plate put in of Friday afternoon. Spent the night in hospital and home on Saturday morning.

Quite a bit of pain; but got some good "drugs"

Left arm in a sling for at least 2 to 3 weeks. Doc says I will be able to ride (on road) again in around 6 weeks. No off roading for at least 2 months.

Will update here as it heals

[Baldyman]

Baldy, I can't believe you've got such quick action. Obviously not in the hutt/wgtn. Hope it works out well.

Heaps of calls to ACC. The Doctor even called ACC himself to speed things up a bit.

I am sure glad it was done so quick

[6ft5]

3 months. I hadn’t really gone more than a week without riding a bike since I was 17. 3 bleeding months, it sucks. All for a silly fall on the slowest corner of the track in practise. 6-8 weeks they said for broken clavicle. Yer kiddin! Sheesh.

But 3 months on & it’s still broken.

Now they say they will plate it. But I have to wait for ACC to approve it, maybe 4, 6, perhaps 7 weeks. Private med ins won’t pay unless ACC refuse to pay for it. & then another 6 weeks until it will have mended. I guess it comes out & hopefully there won’t be much recovery time after that.

So cue another 3 months. Have I mentioned this sucks?:argh:

Also have to consider how mobile I will be, wife is 1 week overdue eta for our first child. Timing isn’t particularly flash.

How have other people found recovery time after this sort of op? Removing the plate op?


Sorry to hear about your issue. Sometimes break just will not mend by themselves and even with plates or steel bars it an take time. I crashed last year, and only just got out on the bike again. Still have tender moments when the muscles don't respond the way they used to. So patience is probably the best way, I know you don't want to hear it. Any congrats on the family growth.

[F5 Dave]

thanks 6ft5, I guess we'll see how well it goes once plated, I'm hoping well, I have two NZ50cc titles to defend later in the year, but also just being able to do things like trim the trees overhanging property would be nice & our little boy is already growing at a rate that I want to be able to still pick him up. + my fitness is at an all time low having not been able to exercise (walking fast was hard with the bumps) but being off the dirtbike has had heaps of effect.

Baldy, the speed you got done amazes me. Hope it heals for you as fast, keep us posted.

[F5 Dave]

Well got the call. 7th July is op. :wari: Not that I imagine it will be particularly fun.

[koba]

Well got the call. 7th July is op. :wari: Not that I imagine it will be particularly fun.

At least you have a date to look foward to now!

[F5 Dave]

Hi all. Well I had some drama with worrying whether my sliced finger that had got infected (now healing after antibiotics but was still oozing this morning) would be a reason not to operate -but got the go ahead. Waahoo.

So Baldy: Two weeks on. Where you at? How long did you wear a sling?

[Skunk]

Best of luck. Apparently we need the two smokes back at Kaitoke...

[Madmax]

3 months. I hadn’t really gone more than a week without riding a bike since I was 17. 3 bleeding months, it sucks. All for a silly fall on the slowest corner of the track in practise. 6-8 weeks they said for broken clavicle. Yer kiddin! Sheesh.

But 3 months on & it’s still broken.

Now they say they will plate it. But I have to wait for ACC to approve it, maybe 4, 6, perhaps 7 weeks. Private med ins won’t pay unless ACC refuse to pay for it. & then another 6 weeks until it will have mended. I guess it comes out & hopefully there won’t be much recovery time after that.

So cue another 3 months. Have I mentioned this sucks?:argh:

Also have to consider how mobile I will be, wife is 1 week overdue eta for our first child. Timing isn’t particularly flash.

How have other people found recovery time after this sort of op? Removing the plate op?

try 3 years 7 ops
to repair a wrist
i have plates in both my collar bones

[F5 Dave]

Man that sounds a drag, hope it is sorted for you now.

[F5 Dave]

Well in for the op tomorrow. Just have to pray the guy is on top form & does a great job. Been looking forward to this, but now comes the yucky part. Better get some sleep.

[Kendog]

Good luck Dave.

[PrincessBandit]

Be thinking of you today! Let us know how you get on. You will have access to a lap top once out of recovery.....;)

Seriously, take it easy and get yourself healed.

Dawn

[Str8 Jacket]

Hope all goes/ went well for you today Dave. We're sick of your moaning... ;)

[James Deuce]

Hope all goes/ went well for you today Dave. We're sick of your moaning... ;)

I'll second that. Mind you, it's normally me whinging, so this has been a pleasant change.

[Skunk]

I'm sick of both of you whinging.

Hope it went well Dave.

[ajturbo]

look after yourself and get strong matey... we all want to see you out there doing it again....

[driftn]

I have a few plates now. The one in my wrist (radius) did not take long to hael at all, infact I was out on the bike before the cast came off giving TAZMAN and a few others a hiding over the takas and showing him how to wheelie. Not the smartest thing to do but meh. The leg however has only just come right. I have only been back at work 3 weeks since Jan.
The thing I have learnt is just let it take its time and dont try push it.
I have to deal with constant pain in my wrist now all because I was an idiot and thought I knew better.
Rant over heal up dude well dude.

[Baldyman]

So Baldy: Two weeks on. Where you at? How long did you wear a sling?[/QUOTE]

Apologies for the delay in replying...

4 weeks after the surgery and still in a sling. The doc says it is normally 6 weeks in a sling after the op. Had a plate put in and 11 screws ro hold the plate and bones together.

So by the time the sling is off it will be more than 3 months since the accident and that has meant 3 months + of no riding. I am really looking forward to getting out there again.

[F5 Dave]

YeahBaldy i feel that. Thanks for kind words guys. Op was a breeze, two of the staff were motorcyclists. Nothing but praise for the was the op staff & nurses work. Woke up, touched my hip, no graft taken from there yay. Drift off, wake up take some drugs. That Tramodine or whatever knocks you out but fs with you. tried to eat later but didn't hold it down. Felt so much better after a bit of a spit. Elated even. Didn't sleep much that night. I'm back home, but getting out of the hospital took all day waiting for a doc to write a script. Yeah I was psd at not being able to go home & they had to move me into a day room as theyneeded my bed. Really it isn't their fault, it's just a matter of priority & they don't have the resource. Shameful really. So I was getting a little scratchy to the end, but was a paragon of polietness most of the time (excuse typing).

So the doc said all went well, there was some evidence that it was starting to heal, but never sure so plated. He said have to take it easy esp as at end of Clavicle there is a lot of leverage. Could show me a heap of bent & broken plate from people not taking it easy. Have to get bone to join properly, maybe 6 weeks, but eventually the plate will fail by itself. So best not to push it until bone joined.

Have to keep painkillers going, neck & bicep muscles are what hurt most for some reason. On the road to recovery.

Thanks guys, hopefully this thread will offer some answers/comfort to others taking this path as it has to me. Time to take some more pills & watch Shaun the Sheep. :scooter:Soon.

[Mom]

So the doc said all went well, there was some evidence that it was starting to heal, but never sure so plated. He said have to take it easy esp as at end of Clavicle there is a lot of leverage. Could show me a heap of bent & broken plate from people not taking it easy. Have to get bone to join properly, maybe 6 weeks, but eventually the plate will fail by itself. So best not to push it until bone joined.

Hard as that might be listen and do it. Glad you are still happily fuggily. Tramodal is good shit :yes: Rest, and heal, and be totally pathetic until it is healed. Sometimes it takes a huge MAN to actually take the advice of a doctor around things like this. May it heal well.

[F5 Dave]

Uvula

Yeah the thing that hangs down the back of your throat. Well appears may be infected or aggravated or summit. Likely from tube down throat in surgery. Tried few antiseptic &anti inflam washes. Dragging on back of tongue, driving me crazy like a part gag reflex, always there. So after a call to hospital suggested i go see gp today. Sigh, won't anything just heal nice & simple like?:rolleyes:

[ajturbo]

Uvula

Yeah the thing that hangs down the back of your throat. Well appears may be infected or aggravated or summit. Likely from tube down throat in surgery. Tried few antiseptic &anti inflam washes. Dragging on back of tongue, driving me crazy like a part gag reflex, always there. So after a call to hospital suggested i go see gp today. Sigh, won't anything just heal nice & simple like?:rolleyes:
you, like the rest of us, are getting too old for things to heal quickly....:buggerd:

[James Deuce]

At least they didn't remove a testicle whilst you were unawares.

[F5 Dave]

I did ask how many people came in with vivid drawn over their body " not this one, this works don't touch, other side etc. . ." Apparently no one according to the young lass with the vivid who only marked one arrow. Figured it wasn't worth the laugh if it was taken the wrong way. might have sewn my wrist to my ankle as a practical joke.:msn-wink:

Feeling a bunch better today. One more thing, i was told it all hurt like anything & i guess i was imagining searing bone pain. None of that happened fortunately, but apparently the hip grafts aren't pleasant.

[Flip]

Glad to hear that you are fixed. When they plated my foot I got the withdraw horrors a couple of times and had to go for a small ride, actually managed to push the road king out with one leg in plaster. Phill

[F5 Dave]

Well I’ve been asked for an update. OK so the Uvula healed slowly with the aid of some spanky mouthwash & antibiotics. . . . Which I formed an allergy for & a rash all over which made me pretty tired & scratchy. Good grief when will this end? I don’t want to be one of ‘those’ people please.

So positive attitude & the check up today.


Scarr is pretty well healed up, muscles a bit tender but every day getting better, looks like plate in good position. Told to come back in 5-6 weeks for x-ray & that will be the It has healed properly tick in the box. See? Positive!

Just until then I can wean myself off the sling & painkillers, but I have to be real careful. Where the plate is, it can bend & break if I do anything silly. So I have to make bone heal before plate gives up. This (bone healing) should easily happen in the 6 weeks.

Only drama is I have a limited range of movement allowed, can’t lift my arm too high or sideways of it really puts pressure on the plate. Also the plate where it is would push against muscle that could damage it. This is because of where the plate is & the type of plate.

So it might be that I can’t dirt ride until the plate is out. That is a real shame, but dirt riding is far more strenuous. I should be able to race by Sept & road ride. May sneak out for a short road ride or two in August.

That I was originally told may be 9-12 months before the plate gets removed, but Doc today said they could start to book it in as soon as bone healed.

Healing is happening & every day it is less painful.

Woot woot!

[Nasty]

Good news there Dave ... keep up the good healing!!!

[ajturbo]

good news matey... lucky your "young" eh...

[Madmax]

Graft sites always hurt when poeople make you laugh,
cause they cut some of the muscle to get at your hips,
your lucky there going to take out your plates and stuff
i still have four plates, 2 k rods, lots of screws wire and stuff
:drool:

[F5 Dave]

Yeah depends where the plate is apparently, mine will continue limiting movement I'm told.

Took the bandage off today, wound looks good, bit sore esp as took the night off painkillers & the muscle is still swollen. Hope that goes down ok.

Every day is better though, almost out of sling except when going for walks.

[F5 Dave]

Where did a month go?

We x-ray show it's joined apparently so that is super good news. I'd got to a point where it had improved but plateau'd a bit & is still sore to do stuff, so off to the physio to get some movement & strength back, but at least now I can start to push it a little.

Next visit they will check if the neck muscles have got sorted out with the treatment & if not do a scan or summit. Plate won't come out for some months yet, apparently it is better to hook it out once your shoulder is fully strong again.

Well I might take some voltarin & take the 750 out for a quick tootle in the weeekend. Whooot!

. . . But not far, rego/wof has lapsed & I don't think I could take much stress.

[Mom]

x-ray show it's joined

Now that is good news. Dont push it! Nature is a bastard sometimes, let it knit a strong callous before you risk undoing all her good work. Not long now, we still have a couple of months of shitty, windy, wet spring to get through before the golden weather of summer. Plenty of time.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah, I just need a little fix after 7 months off. I'll hold off dirt riding as the jarring is the last thing it needs. I'll probably hold off racing for a little while. Mind you there is a Kaitoke meet late next month. . . but yeah will be taking it easy, 'specially as the muscles aren't up to it yet.

[F5 Dave]

Well that was fun. Put some air in the tyres & tried to start the 750 after 7 months of idle waiting (with a recent plug in battery trickle charger keeping the battery healthy). Surprise it started on ~5th attempt. 7 month old petrol - no drama.

The rego was actually still in (by 2 weeks) so I went for a quick tootle around the simple hutt hill roads & motorway.

Felt like I hadn't been away.

Right now I have a goal. The bumps near end of ride were a bit uncomfortable, so I need to work on getting joints working well.

Worst part was getting my heavily armoured leather jacket on & off & reaching the pockets to feed in keys.

[Kendog]

Nice, that's a good step in the right direction.

[F5 Dave]

Well I kinda thought this thread would just go away, but then I thought maybe it may be useful to others just so people know what to expect if they follow the same path. Then finally 20min ago I have a reason to vent a bit.

Physio is going well & I have most of movement back & am getting strength back. Still gets a bit sore some nights & when working it a bit too much.

OK so went for my next checkup & they said yeah good movement, great progress, come back in Jan & we'll x ray it, if all still cool we'll apply with ACC to hook it out month or so after that.

OK sounds ok. Ooh, one more thing; could you please sign the MNZ form so I can apply to get my race licence back? Ohh don't think we can do that, have to hold off till January. Erk! That would mean no more racing until then & Dec is the Taupo GP & I'm defending the F5 GP. Toddled off to ask his boss, but no joy, but I did get the appointment brought forward to mid Dec. So I should be able to race Taupo, but not until then. Sucks.

Amazing how long something like this can affect you. Then when they hook it out I'll be down recovering from that for a while. Not as long, but a while.
Healing without surgery is def the best way to go.

oh yeah here's a pretty pic.

[White trash]

I know a guy that could probably reprogram that clavical thingy Dave.

[F5 Dave]

Thanks dude that made me laugh. He's a surgeon as well I assume? Probably was until he got in a fist fight with Doctor Costa.

[White trash]

I think his radical research involving splicing Hippo dna with his own led Costa to tell him "You're a bit radical for us mate"......

[Shorty_925]

Thats a bugger and a hell of a long time off a bike! Im going to give my first mx a crack this weekend and see how the wrist holds out, 3 weeks out of a cast now, its ok at the gym, but a bike is something different. Was fine last week out roys hill, but again a smooth track.

[Kickaha]

OK sounds ok. Ooh, one more thing; could you please sign the MNZ form so I can apply to get my race licence back? Ohh don't think we can do that, have to hold off till January. Erk!

They're funny like that, wouldn't sign off on mine the day I got my cast off after I fractured my wrist either

[F5 Dave]

Well just an update, probably the last one, again so those going down this path may read this later.

I got the last x-ray & it looked good so they signed off my MNZ form. Yay I can race at the Taupo TRRS & compete the F5 GP (which I am defending).

I've been doing physio & they sent me to the Gym physio. I've never been in a gym. Full of vain people looking at themselves & my opinion hasn't changed.<_<

But heck it has helped my recovery. Have pretty much full movement & strength back.

But I still have some issues with clunking as I lower my arms & the muscle moves past the plate. Also I haven't been able to sleep on my r side for a year, it pushes the shoulder into the plate. Gets sore in the morning 'cause of that I think. It isn't good enough that I could dirtbike ride.

So the plate comes out next year. Then I have to recover from that, but now I've got movement back it should only be a couple of weeks. But the bone needs to fill in the gaps left by the screws which essentially are like 3 holes drilled through the bone, so it won't be full strength for another 6 or so months.

It's been a long path & another general operation to go.

Sheesh all this for a little crash.


hmm a large packet from CKT just showed up. Best I go attach that to a motorbike.

[Trudes]

Well that's good news that you can race at Taupo at least. That's a lot of recovery like you say for a relatively small crash!

[PrincessBandit]

Good on you F5 Dave. I am looking forward to seeing if the plate across my collarbone gets it to join now. Bit more excited knowing that the ends are actually lined up now so fingers crossed that it will finally heal!

[skidMark]

Ive broken a few things... usually a pretty quick recovery hell i was back on the bike with my leg in a cast lol same when i had stuffed elbow... bit tricky though...

Broke hand when i was 16 - school brawl

Shattered left elbow 2 months after i started riding in mid 05 - t boned a car

Broken ankle 2 places - taken out lane splitting.

only one i still have issues with is elbow because i was too stubborn and bullet proof to get physio...

Shrug.

[Kickaha]

only one i still have issues with is physio because i was too stubborn and bullet proof to get physio...

You forgot stupid

Good to hear Dave, we will schedule the Blenheim meeting for the day after the plate is removed:shifty:

[F5 Dave]

Hi PB, hadn't realised you'd gone for the plate op (typical male or inefficient stalker - it's a fine line). It is a great feeling that it finally feels 'connected' when that plate first goes in. Its a long road, but at least you can see where you are going. Good luck & a shame that the physio isn't fully subsidised now, but cheap enough & well worth it. The gym physio really helped me.

Is your plate under your shoulder or in the middle? if so may be a leave in place & you're fine sort of thing. can apparently be a pain if you want to wear a pack or whatever (& I've heard a bra but I'm not personally planning to test that out).

[vifferman]

All the best for your continuing recovery, Dave. I hope it all turns out well.


hmm a large packet from CKT just showed up. Best I go attach that to a motorbike.
Don't forget to post something about that! :nono:

[PrincessBandit]

Just taken a couple of pix on the weekend (4 days after surgery)....

[DemonWolf]

Nice bruising... hope ya heal up fast.


thinking back to mine.. I'm so glad it healed (eventually after it re-broke while sleeping, and I even asked them to plate it as I couldn't sleep much... they said no) without the plate. Though the lump\knitted bone gives me alil grief if I have a heavy packback for long periods... bah I should have gotten the plate!

[F5 Dave]

Ahh, your is the opposite side to mine. From what little I know you should have less leverage on the plate so less chance of damaging it. I was warned not to lift my arm past ~45deg, maybe you won't have that restriction (clearly follow surgeon's guide not some turkey on the internet). Soon as you can get some movement the better for the shoulder.

Did they say the plate will stay in? I suspect it might. Good luck healing.

[F5 Dave]

Nice bruising... hope ya heal up fast.


thinking back to mine.. I'm so glad it healed (eventually after it re-broke while sleeping, and I even asked them to plate it as I couldn't sleep much... they said no) without the plate. Though the lump\knitted bone gives me alil grief if I have a heavy packback for long periods... bah I should have gotten the plate!

There's a simple solution; don't wear a heavy backpack. When on holiday carry a credit card. It's much lighter.

Yeah some people get heinous lumps healing naturally. But a plate isn't the easy (or quick) option for sure.

I only had a small amount of bruising after the op, about a 1/5 of that of the accident which spread right down my arm etc.

my scar is hardly noticeable. Pity to have to cut it open again.

Here's a tip from the physio. Apparently new practice is to pinch the scarring once it's fully joined (obviously not now). This helps pull it away from the muscle etc so it is confined to the skin rather than anchored down a bit. Helps break it up a bit. Worked on me, but it was somewhat unpleasant at the time.

[DMCD]

Just taken a couple of pix on the weekend (4 days after surgery)....

Awww PB you poor thing, :crybaby: get better soon.

[PrincessBandit]

Stitches out today and now just a sticky strip called "micropore" is covering the scar. No more having to keep it dry now. Yippee!

[F5 Dave]

Yeah mine were dissolvable except for one for some crazy reason.

Good news, hope your healing goes well. Assume you are out of sling now?

[PrincessBandit]

No, have to wear it for another 3 weeks although I do take it off for an hour or so each day. The specialist has given me a set of exercises to do now to encourage the shoulder to free up. I think the sling is just so I don't get carried away and move my arm stupidly (as if I could...) and at least it's waaaaay better than the dreadful collar'n'cuff I had after the accident which didn't support my elbow at all.
Man, I am so glad the operation has been done and am looking forward to regaining full movement in my arm knowing that the bone is at least together at last!

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I slept with mine off but I did seem to need it for a little while. When I got to next visit he said wean yourself off it, it won't help or hinder now the plate is in. Again Doctor's orders & all that.

They gave you some physio rotation exercises with hanging shoulder yeah?

I stopped doing mine after a while when I started to get some movement (& got bored) & wish I'd kept going. I still do them now when my arm is achy in the morning (showers are great). Keep those going.

[F5 Dave]

Well I decided to update this for anyone following thread.

I had the plate out today. Was a quick procedure, much easier than getting it in for sure. They did warn me that there was still risk. Being a hook plate the hook is under the shoulder bone so they have to wiggle it out. They saved it for me, more on that later. The risk is that you could get nerve damage or hit a vein or rebreak the bone. Fortunatly none of that seemed to happen. I went in 7:30, was in op at 8:30 & out & recovered enough to be picked up before lunch. The guy in the next cubicle was from the local bike shop & was in to have his plate out of clavicle. Small world.

Ring Wife, she comes picks me up, takes me home, house been burgled. Great. So ring Police, they come pretty quickly & bring dogs etc. The alarm seems to have scared them off after a quick pull back the bed & dash, but they did spot my wallet on the dresser. Ironically I'd left it at home so it wasn't at the hospital (not that I'd mistrust the nurses, they were great). Also got the camera, so as I said no picture of the plate till I get to work.

One of the Police that showed up we knew from Antenatal group. Smaller world. I call the credit card call centre & speak with a girl who called me on thursday to check up on a UK purchase I made (ironically for Forcefield body armour, can't get it here, supposed to be the best, to help make sure this doesn't happen again). Tiny world. So while speaking to her she recognises the Cop who we knews (sorry I've had a general today & grammar is off) voice in the background & knows him personally. Where was this world again?

Ok so it sucks being burged but not much harm done. Must go rest up, but I seem to have good movement, no sling required, just don't lift anything & obviously it has to heal the holes from the screw before it is back to full strength. I'm pretty happy now. If tired, tired, tired.

[PrincessBandit]

Wow, so you and I must have broken our collarbones about the same time (you just before me); you had yours plated on July 7th (I had to wait until Dec 9th!!). So now yours is out; I was told I'd have to have mine in for a year, then removal would be dependent on a few factors (not automatically done).
So pleased to hear that the procedure was relatively straightforward and you're getting back into it. Not pleased to hear about the lowlife scum who burgled your house! I hope you are able to recover/replace what was taken; but it's a whole lot of hassle that you could really do without! All the best....

[F5 Dave]

Yeah mine was broken 1 feb. They told me they take them out anywhere from 6 - 12 months, but gave me the option to leave it in, but my specialist told me they take hook plates out as they are uncomfortable as they rest under the bone that has the shoulder joint so it rubs & it causes pain if you rest on it at all. Feels a lot better now but that could well be the painkillers. Yours may well be ok to stay in, depends if it gives you grief.

'course I had to walk around with the Police etc instead of resting, by the time they'd left I'd noted the blood on my t shirt. opps, rang the hospital & they said try pressure & redress which worked ok. Sheesh nothing is ever simple huh? Best head off to bed.

[Trudes]

Take it easy Dave and heal well. I'll dedicate to you this weekend every time I go round the nice banked corner at Taumaranui you were telling us about.:)

[F5 Dave]

Thanks, I'll be thinking about it. I have a picture of me on it in the lounge room wall.

Just noticed my old leather riding pants were stole as well. That's the bit that has me most pissed off, I had them out on the bed to give to a mate.

[F5 Dave]

OK last post on this saga I hope. So we're 2 & 1/2 weeks on from the op. Feel great, no pain except if directly on scar. Didn't need to pain killers after a few days. Have to be careful with it as the holes need to fill in but should be sort of ok strength now & full strength in another month. Calcium tablets all round. which reminds me I've had lunch, time to pop another. Good luck anyone else reading this thread.

[F5 Dave]

ok just one more post to instill what I've learnededed.

I was pretty peachy with just niggling restriction of movement near the upper reaches. Actually not restriction, just it hurt. I went back to the physio & they did some more work, apparently the scar tissue needs to get broken up & out of the way. They had said that it is important to get as full a range as possible or you may not get it back. I have a freind who has that sort of issue after a couple of tumbles on her GSXR.

One thing was the shoulder was a bit stiff/sore, but largely the muscle at the top of my arm. The did some dry 'needling' which involves sticking some needles into muscles that arestressed & it forces them to relax, or some such nonsense. Except it worked pretty well. That gave me some more movement.

But not all. I've been using hand weights to build up the strength around there, trying for 5 nights a week for ~ 15min. I started experimenting with new exercises to start to work where it hurt. for instance (without weights) I found that using my <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cdavid%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsoh tml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-NZ;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:35.4pt; mso-footer-margin:35.4pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> Arms straight up was fine, but back past vertical was sore. So I used light weights & did scissor type movements gradually back into that area.

I also found that as I got better there were less places that were hurting, but when they did they hurt! So you had to go look for them. Lying on the ground I found I could stretch my arms right back. At 90 degrees they were fine too. But as soon as you moved away from those positions it would hurt.

I worked on this bit by bit moving the arms up a bit & doing straight arm hug yourself movements. At the start in the sore parts I couldn’t move my arms off the ground at all. With a pillow under them or bending your elbows you could. The more you did this the freer it got. I started doing weights like this near the bad areas & when loosened up in the areas. It was slow work.

This morning I was lying on the floor & trued it & noticed only a twinge.

I’m not saying that your injury will be the same. Just that this is nothing the physio or anyone had told me to do, although with infinite visits the result would probably be the same. Maybe this thread will never be read again, but maybe it will help someone else. <o:p></o:p>

[F5 Dave]

ok just one more post to instill what I've learnededed.

I was pretty peachy with just niggling restriction of movement near the upper reaches. Actually not restriction, just it hurt. I went back to the physio & they did some more work, apparently the scar tissue needs to get broken up & out of the way. They had said that it is important to get as full a range as possible or you may not get it back. I have a freind who has that sort of issue after a couple of tumbles on her GSXR.

One thing was the shoulder was a bit stiff/sore, but largely the muscle at the top of my arm. The did some dry 'needling' which involves sticking some needles into muscles that are stressed & it forces them to relax, or some such nonsense. Except it worked pretty well. That gave me some more movement.

But not all. I've been using hand weights to build up the strength around there, trying for 5 nights a week for ~ 15min. I started experimenting with new exercises to start to work where it hurt. for instance (without weights) I found that using my <link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cdavid%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsoh tml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:EN-NZ;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:35.4pt; mso-footer-margin:35.4pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> arms straight up was fine, but back past vertical was sore. So I used light weights & did scissor type movements gradually back into that area.

I also found that as I got better there were less places that were hurting, but when they did they hurt! So you had to go look for them. Lying on the ground I found I could stretch my arms right back. At 90 degrees they were fine too. But as soon as you moved between those positions it would hurt.

I worked on this bit by bit moving the arms up a bit & doing straight arm hug yourself movements. At the start in the sore parts I couldn’t move my arms off the ground at all. With a pillow under them or bending your elbows you could. The more you did this the freer it got. I started doing weights like this near the bad areas & when loosened up in the areas. It was slow work.

This morning I was lying on the floor & tried it & noticed only a twinge.

I’m not saying that your injury will be the same. Just that this is nothing the physio or anyone had told me to do, although with infinite visits the result would probably be the same. Maybe this thread will never be read again, but maybe it will help someone else.<o></o>

[PrincessBandit]

Had what is hopefully my last appointment with the specialist to check how the bone is healing. Xrays are looking good and he's very pleased with the range of movement I have back in my right arm.
I've opted to leave the plate in as it's not bothering me and I'd rather not risk the complications (and being back off the bike for a few weeks) of having it removed.

It's so nice to know that, short of some kind of unforeseen complication, I'm back to pre-15th March 2009 condition! with the exception of a length of metal with some screws now residing in my body....

[F5 Dave]

hey great to hear, nice to be back to what people take for granted. Just keep on challenging the range & building up strength. I was up hanging from trees yesterday using hand saws with either hand no drama. Ahh bliss.

[F5 Dave]

Here we go again. Lying in hospital same clavicle and 5 ribs to keep it company. Another minor racing incident.

[speedpro]

Silly boy. You are getting too old for bucket racing. Leave it to the young guys. Just kidding. Good job ribs only hurt when you breath.

[Night Falcon]

Having first hand knowledge of what broken body motorcycle groundhog day feels like :facepalm: I felt a little sick reading your post - hope recovery goes well for ya Dave. I recommend not sneezing or watching Faulty Towers reruns until those ribs are well mended.

[F5 Dave]

Or cough or breath heavily ( both of they want me to do every 1/2 hr to ward off chest infection)
Or burp or hiccup.

When they xray d me Sunday they picked up the healed ones on the other side which I never got checked out but slowed me down in a gp the month after as I rebroke them moving. That was 10 yrs ago.

[F5 Dave]

He trieda to kiss me.

Cheers good advice.

[ellipsis]

...paying the price of playing our game yet again Dave...I gave away speedway 'cos my shoulder blade and ribs took so much shit...that was a lot of years ago...highsided at Methven and did my shoulder a couple of weeks ago...I didn't break it this time but could have lost the three months work ahead of me if I had...time for a 'break...not the bone type though...

[F5 Dave]

Racing has been part of my life for 27 yrs. I'm thinking of parking the bike for a while at least till the kids get easier to handle. Maybe time to find someone to do the riding.

That said the throttle stuck so it was probably my fault somehow and I wouldn't want to injur someone. New cable that had done a day of practice at the gp so not sure how.

[Askor]

Broken clavicles suck aye. Here's mine from August 2013
310927
Never got it seen to and it healed up with the bones offset - I have a nice big lump and a left shoulder that's not as wide as the right now :facepalm:

Moral of the story is make sure it heals like it should

[F5 Dave]

Sfunny some people have little pain with clavicle some have heaps. Think it depends where its broken. I can feel the bone ends clicking past each other which is just horrible.

The ribd high up is worse for breathing and there's some fluid in a lung so trying not to get infection.

[Flip]

You poor bastard.

Get well soon.

Might drop in next time I am down if u are up to a visit?

[F5 Dave]

Cheers man. There's always room. If a little inflatable , kids filled the spare rooms.

[ellipsis]

...physical exertion and lots of medicinal alcohol ward off infections...and in-laws...pain is just another four letter word...like, wife or kids or work...:banana:

[Grumph]

Dave - bear in mind here I'm trying to not make you laugh..

it was a very similar set of injuries - just had a cracked shoulder blade as an extra - that made Trev Kirby give up at 42.
I well remember waiting with him for the ambulance at a Ruapuna week day test session. When an ambo crouched down and gently put his hand on Trev's shoulder, asking how he was and saying just a minute and we'll put you in the ambulance....Trev painfully raised up slightly and said very clearly, "I'd be fine if some cunt wasn't leaning on me"....

I'm impressed that you have your own injury thread you can dredge at will. Keep taking the meds and get better soon.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I drank too much last time as pain relief.
M.I.Law is in hospital too and she is our main support for babysitting so that sucks timing wise.

[F5 Dave]

Cheers Greg

[Grumph]

Technology is wonderful Dave, I don't own anything like the tablet or phone you've got there with you. Last time i was in i was living in the TV lounge to stay sane. Couldn't do that now that Sommet has gone....

[F5 Dave]

Has helped. I read a book on my phone while waiting in ED trying not to think . Kept me in text contact and forums plus podcasts when can't sleep. Glad I thought to grab it.

[Night Falcon]

spider solitaire on my phone kept me from going over the wall when I was in solitary confinement in Hastings horse piddle.

[F5 Dave]

Constipation is something I've never really suffered from but these drugs clog you up and it is most painful to get moving again. Spent literally hours on the bog last night. Uncool.

But the good news is the doc called and said they are going to operate and there's a space on Tuesday. It won't be fun but woohoo.

[Grumph]

You must be on a codeine base painkiller. Morphine is better...First time i was given Tramadol, I projectile vomited spectacularly, another one i can't have.

Find out if your surgeon is bike sympathetic, it can help a lot.
Are they letting you out for the weekend ? Hospitals are a bastard place to spend a long weekend in.

[Mom]

Spent literally hours on the bog last night. Uncool.

Do you like the canned Black Doris Plums? They are wonderful at helping things along when you are bunged up. Just have 3 or 4 a day and you will be amazed at the difference they make. On the drugs it might take a few days to start working, but it really will help.

[F5 Dave]

Got out yesterday. I spewed with Tramadol too but now they have anti nausea drugs so it's been good so far. Except the poo block. Have morphine too but I find it less effective.

Been on the pineapple cereal grapes and kiwifruit juice.

[Kickaha]

First time i was given Tramadol
I get my best sleep using that shit, apparently I am much nicer person while I'm on morphine though

G I spewed with Tramadol too
Post it to me them

[ellipsis]

...you are supposed to mix them about 20:1 with alcohol...you should all know that...c'mon...you will shit well as well as giving everyone else the shits...win,win...

[F5 Dave]

I get my best sleep using that shit, apparently I am much nicer person while I'm on morphine though

Post it to me them
Nah they are the best and been OK since.

[Racing Dave]

Happier times...

Ruapuna, 2008

[F5 Dave]

Cheers, I was wearing that T-shirt yesterday, actually not the exact one, that got tore up when I crashed in the snow the next day trying to overtake a 150 in the dipper, but I was given a replacement. The original was given to Darbi wgtn who supplied them and hung on the wall for a few weeks.
Thanks Dave.

[F5 Dave]

I'm sick of this shit. The pain, interrupted sleep. Opiates gave me wicked constipation and some of the worst pain of this episode. Lacitives and proctosol have finally cleared it but with bowel feeling unsettled so like being sick and feeling miserable, but with the ribs esp I can't sleep lying flat and moving is a considered activity with consequences.

Can't play with the kids, can't even look after them, can't work in the garage, can't go see friends as I can't drive. And of course I can't ride motorbikes.

But on the positive side they have decided to plate the clavicle, and better yet there was a slot on Tuesday. That would save 5 months over last time. And that is good. Edit oops already mentioned this.
About 5 weeks the ribs should have knitted and I should be able to do most things again with caution. Won't be able to risk the dirt bike for somewhat longer but the road bike is possible.

[Grumph]

Try sleeping in a chair. Doesn't have to be a recliner, but that helps. Being able to relax the arms with no weight on either is very good.
Being somewhat upright, less fluid in the lungs too so less breathing difficulty.
gravity helps the bowels too...

Send the wife out for a pack of Speights - very good laxative in my experience.

You've just got to stop the kids jumping on you while you're dozing in a drunken/drugged stupor.

[F5 Dave]

I'm in a chair now and slept here the night before when it is too painful in bed I get up and come here. I have a beach chair apparatus I have on loan from the hospital for propping me up in bed but chair may be better. Recliner handle on wrong arm side so I'm using a table.
Sadly my daughter (and son) are autistic and she needs plenty of rough housing, & she doesn't understand Daddy can't `upside down,upside down` at the moment.

[Grumph]

Sounds to me like your racing career has been hanging by a thread for some time...makes your sig rather ironic.

Like you, bed till it's too painful, then a chair. Not for the same reasons though, mainly just age....

No local substitutes for the required kid playtimes ?

[F5 Dave]

Riding and racing in particular has been a great release from life's other pressures.

[jasonu]

I'm sick of this shit. The pain, interrupted sleep. Opiates gave me wicked constipation and some of the worst pain of this episode. Lacitives and proctosol have finally cleared it but with bowel feeling unsettled so like being sick and feeling miserable, but with the ribs esp I can't sleep lying flat and moving is a considered activity with consequences.

Can't play with the kids, can't even look after them, can't work in the garage, can't go see friends as I can't drive. And of course I can't ride motorbikes.

But on the positive side they have decided to plate the clavicle, and better yet there was a slot on Tuesday. That would save 5 months over last time. And that is good. Edit oops already mentioned this.
About 5 weeks the ribs should have knitted and I should be able to do most things again with caution. Won't be able to risk the dirt bike for somewhat longer but the road bike is possible.

Sounds like an appropriate time to consider hanging up the leathers old chap...

[Kickaha]

I'm sick of this shit. The pain, interrupted sleep. Opiates gave me wicked constipation and some of the worst pain of this episode. Lacitives and proctosol have finally cleared it but with bowel feeling unsettled so like being sick and feeling miserable, but with the ribs esp I can't sleep lying flat and moving is a considered activity with consequences.

You need to take a up a nice safe sport like Sidecar racing

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I've decided to park the race bikes at least until the kids aren't so dependant, might get someone else on the seat for a few races and see if I find any pleasure from that. I'd like another trials bike.
You can hurt yourself on anything, but this has become too much of a habit. I was only getting disappointed at my speed of late. Some days I could, but many I was not really doin it.

[Grumph]

Yeah I've decided to park the race bikes at least until the kids aren't so dependant, might get someone else on the seat for a few races and see if I find any pleasure from that. I'd like another trials bike.
You can hurt yourself on anything, but this has become too much of a habit. I was only getting disappointed at my speed of late. Some days I could, but many I was not really doin it.

That's the pain and frustration talking...simply postpone any decision making. By the time you're fit circumstances may have changed.

[F5 Dave]

Well that's why I've been using the term park rather than sell, but I have stalled the set of leathers measured up for and will pay for work so far (only a mock cotton fit suit).

[carbonhed]

I'm sick of this shit. The pain, interrupted sleep. Opiates gave me wicked constipation and some of the worst pain of this episode. Lacitives and proctosol have finally cleared it but with bowel feeling unsettled so like being sick and feeling miserable, but with the ribs esp I can't sleep lying flat and moving is a considered activity with consequences.

Can't play with the kids, can't even look after them, can't work in the garage, can't go see friends as I can't drive. And of course I can't ride motorbikes.

But on the positive side they have decided to plate the clavicle, and better yet there was a slot on Tuesday. That would save 5 months over last time. And that is good. Edit oops already mentioned this.
About 5 weeks the ribs should have knitted and I should be able to do most things again with caution. Won't be able to risk the dirt bike for somewhat longer but the road bike is possible.

I broke my clavicle and scapula about 18 months ago thanks to a U turning muppet. Agony. Big drugs. 3 months off work. Thankfully no ribs. You've scored the jackpot unfortunately.

Soooo boring. I bought a Kindle and read a heap of books... when I could stay awake. And lots of walking to try and stay active.... other than that I got nothing except sympathy.

[F5 Dave]

I broke my clavicle and scapula about 18 months ago thanks to a U turning muppet. Agony. Big drugs. 3 months off work. Thankfully no ribs. You've scored the jackpot unfortunately.

Soooo boring. I bought a Kindle and read a heap of books... when I could stay awake. And lots of walking to try and stay active.... other than that I got nothing except sympathy.
Thanks man. I thought I'd broken my shoulder blade too as it hurt up there. Its supposed to be painful, but it was the ribs instead. Probably easier to heal ribs and 3 months off work would be the end of my job. Tough times bud I'll try stop my whinging. I'll be back at work in a few days I suspect.

[F5 Dave]

Argh except this. So my wife just says `so when are you last able to eat?`
Ahh crap, 5:30. I forgot. This means I'll not only miss lunch, but I'll miss breakfast too. Oh woe is me.

:baby:

First world problems huh?

[carbonhed]

Thanks man. I thought I'd broken my shoulder blade too as it hurt up there. Its supposed to be painful, but it was the ribs instead. Probably easier to heal ribs and 3 months off work would be the end of my job. Tough times bud I'll try stop my whinging. I'll be back at work in a few days I suspect.

Cool. I'm glad it's not the collar bone. Cracked ribs suck arse too though... and a bunch of them doesn't bear thinking about :-)

[F5 Dave]

Oh def the collar bone. I lie here having woken about 4 hrs ago with a new plate fitted to it. It's a hook plate like before so it is a bit intrusive on the joint. Hurt like buggery when I came around but eventually they dialed the drugs up enough.

Will be nice to be able to get out of bed without feeling the two ends flicking across each other. Staff here are great.

Plate will have to come out end of year I guess but this is the beginning of the healing process and I am happy.


Thanks for all the support it has been nice.

[Night Falcon]

..... Staff here are great.

Plate will have to come out end of year I guess but this is the beginning of the healing process and I am happy.


Thanks for all the support it has been nice.

Happy for you the staff are looking after ya well - bit hit an miss in Hastings - had several nurses that hated motorbikes and motorcyclists and were none to shy in letting me know about it. One old girl told me right out of surgery that I deserved every thing I got for riding a motorbike despite the crash not being my fault....made me feel real swell. They see a few injuries I suspect though......wonder how they get along with fat folks and their heart and kidney problems?

[Grumph]

Happy for you the staff are looking after ya well - bit hit an miss in Hastings - had several nurses that hated motorbikes and motorcyclists and were none to shy in letting me know about it. One old girl told me right out of surgery that I deserved every thing I got for riding a motorbike despite the crash not being my fault....made me feel real swell. They see a few injuries I suspect though......wonder how they get along with fat folks and their heart and kidney problems?

Ha - here in canty it can be a bit hit or miss. Post the first lot of stenting, waiting to be OK'd for discharge, a Registrar comes round with a load of students.
They're just out in the corridor and i hear him say - "Ha, extensive stenting, that'll teach Mr Thomas...."
i sat up and called him in and in front of the students, gave him a bollocking cos i haven't ever smoked, don't drink. eat healthy but yes, slightly overweight...
I told him i came from 5 generations of known heart disease and how the fuck could i escape that pray tell...
Stunned students and an apology from him...I've dealt with him since and he's the soul of courtesy....
His boss is way better though.

Carry on dave, keep us posted as to progress.

[F5 Dave]

Dear oh dear. They've been great here. Was going to be discharged at 11 but concerns about chest infection possibly picked up here. Oh goody.

More xray and blood test. Decided can be sorted at home. Due to go home soon.

Feeling not too bad so hopefully will all clear up. .

[Kickaha]

but yes, slightly overweight...
Only slightly?

[ellipsis]

Only slightly?

...he is quite tall...

[Ocean1]

Happy for you the staff are looking after ya well - bit hit an miss in Hastings - had several nurses that hated motorbikes and motorcyclists and were none to shy in letting me know about it.


Ha - here in canty it can be a bit hit or miss.

I married an ED nurse. Thought I had the injury problem covered. :laugh: Several times she's refused to take me to ED because I'd embarrass her.

Now the bloody daughter's in on the act. :facepalm:

Good luck Dave, I like the idea of a trials bike, I probably need to trade in the 525 for something similar too...

[Grumph]

Only slightly?

Shuddup you....


...he is quite tall...

Lying down..

this is dave's thread, I was trying to make him feel better...I know, probable fail.

[F5 Dave]

I almost txtd the guys who bought my last Trials bike to see if they are close to upgrade time or in a year maybe. I'll see where my money is at later.

So taking the antibiotics cause I don't want phenomena, hold on a minute. . .

[Flip]

Now that you are screwed you will heal faster.

[Ocean1]

I almost txtd the guys who bought my last Trials bike to see if they are close to upgrade time or in a year maybe. I'll see where my money is at later.

So taking the antibiotics cause I don't want phenomena, hold on a minute. . .

I know a guy with a (303?, monoshock, radial head) Fantic I quite fancy. You could trail ride it and sit down occasionally. I keep thinking I should go make an offer ha can't refuse. But then I'd be expected to turn up at formal occasions to be ridiculed. Again.

Sod it, at least with a twinshock I've got some excuse...

[F5 Dave]

I had a GG200 `00 flavour for many years. Easy to ride, didn't bother with the formal rides. Land access is a problem compared with back then.

Rest day, don't seem to have got worse in chest but xrays did show still some collapse and fluid in lungs. Ribs starting to knit I think. Hooray. Back to work for a couple of hours tomorrow where a bollocking awaits apparently, super.

Put in perspective our friends down the road, the chap had a stoke the night before so wife was babysitting last night, we were having drinks the day before, and he's not even 40. Hopefully he'll recover but skinny young proper fit and still life can throw things at ya.

[jasonu]

Back to work for a couple of hours tomorrow where a bollocking awaits apparently, super.

.

Mate if you had sustained your scuffs playing rugby your employer would be shaking your hand and offering you a night out with his hot daughter with all expenses paid...

When I broke my collarbone at Paeroa and had a month off my employer thought I was the biggest cunt ever. At the same time there was this fat cunt I worked with that was always having a couple of days off here and there for rugby league injuries. Never a bad word said about that.

[F5 Dave]

Nah its for other reasons largely beyond my fault but we now have a blame culture. Makes work unpleasant for no benefit to the shareholders.

[Ocean1]

I had a GG200 `00 flavour for many years. Easy to ride, didn't bother with the formal rides. Land access is a problem compared with back then.

I said the same thing to an old riding mate a couple of years ago, had a right moan, listing several places we weren't allowed to ride any more. He had a think and said: "Mate, every single one of those places was off limits back then too, we just didn't give a fuck."


Nah its for other reasons largely beyond my fault but we now have a blame culture. Makes work unpleasant for no benefit to the shareholders.

I heartily recommend a "no arseholes" workplace policy. Does wonders for every aspect of your working day.

[F5 Dave]

Some have been developed, some have been felled, some the entrance you could slip around before has been developed so its hard to park the van discreetly and get to where you used to go without riding through someone's yard. Golden years.

[Night Falcon]

I wear ear plugs when riding where I'm not supposed too.....then if ya get caught just start speaking like da German tourist whoist gotten lossen int da Kiwi forest park himmel...and say...ist dis motorbiken verboten?

[F5 Dave]

and don't mention the war.

[Askor]

what if the person that catches you speaks German and realises you're full of shit?

[ellipsis]

what if the person that catches you speaks German and realises you're full of shit?


...probably nothing...

[jasonu]

and don't mention the war.

I did once but I think I got away with it...

[ellipsis]

...wot war was that?...the big one, the other big one, or the myriad of small ones that have happened in between...

[Night Falcon]

what if the person that catches you speaks German and realises you're full of shit?

Inz zat case you've two options:

Z first - to give zem a rank name, und Za type of cereal you like.....

Z second - Tell zem da Tommy's have zem surrounded

[F5 Dave]

It’s joined!
Well an x-ray today & looking good so far. Slung the sling away except for support walking if I feel I need it, but good to get some freedom back. For the first time I can move my arm past 45deg. Not that that’s easy.

Now I have to work on movement & there’s a bit of work to do to get it feeling comfortable & without pain for various movements. Physio starts tomorrow but can only risk light work on it. Another x-ray in a month & if that goes well I can do heavy lifting, but these further out shoulder end breaks are a bugger for not healing properly (hence the decision to plate).

Then I guess another 6 or so months & they’ll hook it out. I can feel it & I can feel the tendons moving over it making a clunk with certain movements, the annoying thing is I had to do quite high movements to get this last time, but this time it is in low range.

The Ribs are still giving me some grief to sleep on my back, but they can take a while to fully heal as they are always moving as you breath.

I’ll be able to start working on the bikes & if the physio goes well in a couple of weeks I’ll be able to go for a ride on the roadbike, well that’s the plan.

[jasonu]

I can feel it & I can feel the tendons moving over it making a clunk with certain movements,
.

For 2 months after my shoulder surgery for a torn labrum it occasionally sounded like a creaky floor board.

[Grumph]

Ask if you can, for a final X ray confirmation of joining before they sign you off. Guy i know down here recently went in to have both collarbones pinned. He'd been signed off as healed four years back but when his partner got pissed off with his constant pain and difficult sleeping she sent him to the doc. X ray and everyone goes, fuck me, they've never joined....
His were broken by his safety harness when he flipped a TQ.

[quickbuck]

It’s joined!


Sorry Dave, haven't looked at all the posts, but are you saying this is the injury you got in 2009??

Heck, I have broken 2 and had them mend in that time!
What a long road if that is the case....

Or did you re-break yourself in the last 12 pages?

Edit: Just found page 8...... Back in April.... good to hear this one didn't take so long....

[F5 Dave]

Well they do an xray in a month but they'll have a mk1 eyeball at it when they take it out in 6-9 months. Last time I ended up much more comfortable sleeping on the repaired side than I had ever before. After it was out of course.

[F5 Dave]

Coo the physio was interesting. Spent too long recording data but did get into some assisted moving. Then exercise. Did this one with a stick over your head while lying down. So the other hand can assist. Almost went to cut the rake down for trying at home, but then remembered the spare bars under the house. Pretty sure thats what she meant.

Big improvement in range already, but there's an area to get over that the tendons go over the plate that's gross.

Motivated to ride in two weeks. Every day several times I must.

[Yow Ling]

Sounds all positive Dave, its easy to skip some of the physio. My dog gets physio every day, I wish I was so committed when I need it, but he has no choice , Mrs would have something to say if I forgot him

[F5 Dave]

Well finally got to work on the 50. All I found were some shards of plastic, that clear stuff that sits on the top of the whirlpool had broken some bits off and they appeared perhaps had got stuck between the tube and housing. Cable, needle and carb body are impeccable.

Thought about going for a ride today, sat on the road bike and it felt good. But keep getting these pains so decided to wait at least a week so I can handle heavy braking etc.

Settled for cleaning the dirt bike that got put away dirty.

This plate is too stuck out or something, I feel it during many movements and just raising my arm past halfway you have to bounce the tendons over click click.

Still movement and strength are much better. I can do stuff like work on the bikes.

[ellipsis]

...I highsided at Methven, last time round...wiped out the left side of my CB and the left bits that stick out on my body...was all cool until the extreme heat we have been having turned to cold...the shoulder now feels like it just got smashed up yesterday...I'm going to go and swing on a chair now...it seems like the right kind of progression...it may just cure this problem...

[Kickaha]

..I'm going to go and swing on a chair now...it seems like the right kind of progression...it may just cure this problem...
I'm sure it cant make it any worse:rolleyes:

[ellipsis]

I'm sure it cant make it any worse:rolleyes:

...been through the scenarios...it can't...gardening hurts these days...

[F5 Dave]

Be nice to have a shoulder that didn't keep you awake in the small hours.

[Grumph]

Be nice to have a shoulder that didn't keep you awake in the small hours.

Welcome to old age - if it isn't the shoulder, something else will keep you awake...

Did an ankle over a week ago, being tiresomely slow coming right. Levels this weekend so i'll have to insist Kev parks and pits in the row nearest the track instead of the usual half bloody mile back....

[F5 Dave]

You need a pit bike like my $30 bmx. Sgreat for getting to the bog at Ruapuna, which is specifically why I bought it & small enough to pack.

[Grumph]

You need a pit bike like my $30 bmx. Sgreat for getting to the bog at Ruapuna, which is specifically why I bought it & small enough to pack.

Good idea except for the bank between pits and track at Levels. Not being by any definition, fit, i'd still have to get off and climb the bloody bank.
Quite sure if i produced a powered one, I'd be screamed at to put on a bloody helmet...

[F5 Dave]

Well after a week where some days I was going to show to the clinic thinking I'd rebroken it,. . . its been a bit better later in the week. To the point that I took the road bike out for a trundle just before. Not up to much manhandling of it parking but a simple ride was great. My fairly new helmet made it hard to smile, but riding is awesome.

[F5 Dave]

Well this blows. Good news is the xray looked good today. But apparently they have to leave it in 6 months of which there is 4 left so end October. Depression. I can't even lift my arm without it clicking uncomfortably. Oh well fuckit. Best shut my bitching and get on with it.

[F5 Dave]

Well they say it can come out. Transferred to private on docs suggestion and if acc paperwork gets the retick will be done at end of this month. Currently clicking like heck typing this. Well over it.

[Ocean1]

Well they say it can come out. Transferred to private on docs suggestion and if acc paperwork gets the retick will be done at end of this month. Currently clicking like heck typing this. Well over it.

So that's you? Champeen of the universe again?

Good luck champ.

[Grumph]

Well they say it can come out. Transferred to private on docs suggestion and if acc paperwork gets the retick will be done at end of this month. Currently clicking like heck typing this. Well over it.

Good - the end is in sight.
Can imagine what the clicking is like as i ran into a very well known car specials builder in town the other day. He's well over 80 but still building specials...however, when he spoke, his badly fitting false teeth clicked away like mad....very distracting.

[F5 Dave]

Had the plate out today. Woke up, instant relief. Elation. Then food, yum.
Then nausea for some hours on and off. But no biggie.

Then lots of warnings to take it easy, not lift anything, wear a sling for a few days. That's a drag, but overall very happy.

[F5 Dave]

More metalwork.

Upper 2015

Lower 2010

The shadow shows the right angle bit that makes it a hook plate and probably why it can be uncomfortable in your joint.

[jasonu]

More metalwork.

Upper 2015

Lower 2010

The shadow shows the right angle bit that makes it a hook plate and probably why it can be uncomfortable in your joint.

Foot pegs for your bike???

Glad you are on the mend.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah titanium but no real use I can think of.

[F5 Dave]

Better every day. Got out on the road bike. Jacket was difficult but riding was fine. Hoorah.

[F5 Dave]

Jesus you prick krist! I wasn't going to post on this thread but I'm sick of this. 4 months and multiple fractures on 5 ribs (again ) but they are taking forever to join back up again.

Dirtbike this time. 3rd loop it started to rain. Funny thing is I was having a connection day where I was feeling slick. Steep Downhill grass.

One minute my hands were full.
The next they were empty.

Didn't seem like it would be that bad. As I hit the ground I knew what had happened. Winded I kneeled put of the path and rotated my shoulder. Not broken. Hooray. Ribs for sure I knew.


Had to ride down next gnarly hill. It was either that or ride on a quad. That sounded worse. Took 15 min.

[F5 Dave]

Oh yeah. And hip bursitis. Need injection but it's been months.

My padded shorts have release area for improved movement. Wanna guess where the sore spot is?

[F5 Dave]

Planning bike with electric start. 2 stroke obviously.

2 weeks ago I went to a dirtbike park venue for a 50th. Rode junior course in 2nd just so I could ride. Very sore after. But also slept badly when couch looked appealing at about 4.

[James Deuce]

Broke 2 ribs 3 weeks ago. So much fun. Broke one front and back.

[F5 Dave]

Bummer. My theory is the less you break the more support so should heal quicker. Like the 6 weeks people quote.

[James Deuce]

Bummer. My theory is the less you break the more support so should heal quicker. Like the 6 weeks people quote.

I broke 10 on that side in 2010. All I did this time was trip over the dog while running. It has settled down, but I still have to sleep in a recliner. Lying down is right out.

[pritch]

Sympathies to both of you.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I had 4 weeks in a recliner. I still feel like lying down is not helping as it is sore to do so but I was so fed up after that long.

[jellywrestler]

Sympathies to both of you.

easier than a lung transplant, worse thing about that is coughing up someone elses hoik

[Bass]

Broken ribs are very instructive.
Very quickly taught me that trying to watch a Monty Python video was a really bad idea, recliner or no.