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...why the hell have I been drinking beer all these years, and missing out on what is good and right in the world?
Mr Walker is my new friend.
Cheers!
allycatz
2nd May 2009, 19:45
I'll stick with me mate Jimmy Beam
Glenfiddich an Gingerale equal portions on the rocks. :yes:
I'll stick with me mate Jimmy Beam
Ah, James and I still have a mutual respect, but Mr Walker has a special appeal right now... and who am I to deny my feelings?
Glenfiddich an Gingerale equal portions on the rocks. :yes:
Alas, I make do with that which the fates serve me... *sigh*
Welcome to the fold....
Glenfiddich is by far better than JW. Try the 18yo, real nice
Welcome to the fold....
Glenfiddich is by far better than JW. Try the 18yo, real nice
Got to take it easy, if the breweries find out I am serious about the beer reduction, they may send The Boys(tm) round...
YellowDog
2nd May 2009, 20:10
Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice. However when I drink the blended stuff, I do prefer American Ginger ale. It's a bit sweeter than the standard Dry Ginger, but not as sweet as lemonade.
Glad to hear you have entered the civilised world. You will also loose a bit of weight too!
CookMySock
2nd May 2009, 20:10
Distill and filter your own spirits. It's much much cleaner and smoother than the two-stroke mix you buy from the wholesalers.
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Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice.Yum. I used to drink way to much of that. I could never go back to it now, or I would never stop. sigh.
Steve
Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice. However when I drink the blended stuff, I do prefer American Ginger ale. It's a bit sweeter than the standard Dry Ginger, but not as sweet as lemonade.
Glad to hear you have entered the civilised world. You will also loose a bit of weight too!
Ah... maybe one day I'll be brave enough to try just ice, but for now, dry ginger ale and a couple of cubes will suffice... til I get off my training wheels!
Distill and filter your own spirits. It's much much cleaner and smoother than the two-stroke mix you buy from the wholesalers.
Again, til I know what I like, I'll let others make it for me... but have often thought of making me own spirits... have a friend that does this, and have spent many a night in his company testing brews... well, as far as I can remember I have anyway...
Try the 18yo, real nice
But make sure the wife doesn't find out.
Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice. However when I drink the blended stuff, I do prefer American Ginger ale. It's a bit sweeter than the standard Dry Ginger, but not as sweet as lemonade.
Glad to hear you have entered the civilised world. You will also loose a bit of weight too!
Scotch Whisky. Whiskey is from Ireland.
All whisky is Scotch whether it's a blended whisky or a fine single malt.
And the only way to drink a single malt is at room temperature with a dash of still water...sheesh...next you'll be telling me you cook oysters...what? Oh, you do?..as you were...thought this was New Zealand, not philistine. :Pokey::rofl:
scumdog
2nd May 2009, 20:19
...why the hell have I been drinking beer all these years, and missing out on what is good and right in the world?
Mr Walker is my new friend.
Cheers!
Dunno what Dangerous and Mr H. would have to say about THAT!!:pinch:
Distill and filter your own spirits. It's much much cleaner and smoother than the two-stroke mix you buy from the wholesalers.
edit:Yum. I used to drink way to much of that. I could never go back to it now, or I would never stop. sigh.
Steve Never brewed my own D but a question,is there any difference in taste/aftertaste if its filtered twice,if thats even possible?
Dunno what Dangerous and Mr H. would have to say about THAT!!:pinch:
Two words - South Auckland
martybabe
2nd May 2009, 20:36
Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice.
Well said YD although I'd go one step further and say it's a shame to spoil a good single malt with anything at all.
If you get into it Donor old mate, try a small neat glen farchlas 105 cask strength or Laphroig, the former is like drinking a liquid log burner and the latter is like drinking landslip. Doesn't sound too appealing I know but they are amazing drinking experiences, a whisky drinkers tipple nirvana IMO.
P.S. I still drink beer and wine but for a special taste explosion in a glass try some good single malts, a cultured emergency services gentleman such as yourself deserves the best.:yes:
P.S. I still drink beer and wine but for a special taste explosion in a glass try some good single malts, a cultured emergency services gentleman such as yourself deserves the best.:yes:
Cripes, I'm as cultured as a pot of yoghurt mate!
But still, never too old to learn... :D
CookMySock
2nd May 2009, 20:44
Never brewed my own D but a question,is there any difference in taste/aftertaste if its filtered twice,if thats even possible?You are better to distill twice than filter twice. It's the type of still and what you filter it with that makes the difference. I saw a reflux-still batch go through a micro-filter - a drip every two seconds. The spirits came out totally clean and tasteless - then you add your flavourings, and heres the secret - add melted corn syrup - it adds an almost-chewy texture to the spirits. Start with one teaspoon per litre - adjust to your preference.
Steve
YellowDog
2nd May 2009, 20:46
Well said YD although I'd go one step further and say it's a shame to spoil a good single malt with anything at all.
If you get into it Donor old mate, try a small neat glen farchlas 105 cask strength or Laphroig, the former is like drinking a liquid log burner and the latter is like drinking landslip. Doesn't sound too appealing I know but they are amazing drinking experiences, a whisky drinkers tipple nirvana IMO.
P.S. I still drink beer and wine but for a special taste explosion in a glass try some good single malts, a cultured emergency services gentleman such as yourself deserves the best.:yes:
That's a fair call. I do like a small amount of ice though. I have a pretty good collection of single malts (about 9). They all have their own unique character and taste. I drink the one that best suits my mood (not that I am moody).
A finger of Whiskey lasts me as long as a pint of beer used to. No not 8 seconds. About 15 minutes.
IMO - A highly civilised beverage.
You are better to distill twice than filter twice. It's the type of still and what you filter it with that makes the difference. I saw a reflux-still batch go through a micro-filter - a drip every two seconds. The spirits came out totally clean and tasteless - then you add your flavourings, and heres the secret - add melted corn syrup - it adds an almost-chewy texture to the spirits. Start with one teaspoon per litre - adjust to your preference.
Steve Cheers,ive 2 mates that do the home brew thing,vastly different results,one of thems stuff has this aftertaste,no matter what the flavour,the others is simply brillant,no idea what the cause is,any ideas?
Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice.
?????????? Scotch Whiskey :doh:
Whiskey is Irish
Whisky is Scottish
Scotch is American slang for Whisky.
Indiana_Jones
2nd May 2009, 23:44
Welcome to the fold....
Glenfiddich is by far better than JW. Try the 18yo, real nice
What he said lol
Appletons for me.
12 years if my wallet allows it :woohoo:
-Indy
cc rider
3rd May 2009, 03:16
Sorry, but going to invoke a collective groan now. I drink Wild Turkey (with ice & dry). There I said it, so :bleh:
Not to say I'm not up for trying new things. But I have no-one to drink with, so Turkey will do.
I have become a little partial to absinthe - I even have my own cuillere.
The family makes our own wine (never liked wine though) but this years crop is a tad dry ;)
Hitcher
3rd May 2009, 17:40
Glenfiddich an Gingerale equal portions on the rocks.
Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thud.
Hitcher
3rd May 2009, 17:41
Mate, it is a shame to spoil a good Scotch Whiskey with anything other than ice.
Noooooooooooooooooo! Gahh! Thud.
My fave way of drinking it is straight at room temp...I started out wit it mixed usually with Ginger Ale, then went to scotch on the rocks, then finally evolved to straight drams. The cheaper stuff is fine with a mixer, but if you want to educate your pallete then try some good single malts straight...As I said before Glenfiddich 18yo is my fave, but am also tempted with good lowland malts (Bladnoch 22yo springs to mind...a nice dram as smooith as silk), and also Irish Whiskys. Japanese stuff is real good too...The Nikka single malts are real nice....
Donor, you will educate yourself as time goes by...Scotch is almost a religion with some, and if thats the case then I am just a lowly monk...
spacemonkey
3rd May 2009, 18:21
Dunno about wasting my single malt like that but a firm fave of mine is Canadian club (sort of a Canadian whiskey) dry ginger ale and a good bit of fresh lime...... The lime really makes it all kinds of (dangerous) throw it down your throat awesomeness! :woohoo:
NOWOOL
3rd May 2009, 18:33
That's the wonderful thing about scotches and whiskeys; they vary so much and it can take pleasurable decades to ascertain a few favourites. Amazing to note that some can benefit from ice and or water, while others are best straight.
Beers and wine are for drinking; scotch is an event.
CookMySock
3rd May 2009, 18:54
Cheers,ive 2 mates that do the home brew thing,vastly different results,one of thems stuff has this aftertaste,no matter what the flavour,the others is simply brillant,no idea what the cause is,any ideas?Yeah the aftertaste comes from the pot stills. Not good.
The best runs come from a quality reflux still. Short distill with a large tail. Just this on its own is quite good, but the micro-filter cleans this up even more.
After you have drunk good homebrew spirits, all store-bought stuff smells like petrol - you can really smell the burned-sugar taste from it.
I better stay out of this thread or I will end up getting back into distilling, and that will be bad. The only problem with great homebrew spirits, is that you can drink untold of the shit - its like drinking fizzy lemonade - you can put a LOT of it back. It's funny for a while, but it starts to get scary when you almost run out, and other little emergencies like that. Not good long term.
Steve
Hitcher
3rd May 2009, 19:16
Dear god. Anybody who must add anything other than water to their Scotch is, quite frankly, wasting their money. Use the money you save despoiling good Scotch on lesser spirits that are designed to be sullied by splits and ice. The list of those is endless.
Consuming Scotch properly is an extremely pleasurable experience. It's about savoring the complex tastes and aromas that are unique to each. Those complex tastes and aromas are completely sodomised by the addition of cat piss or ginger ale if you must.
Scotch's active ingredient is alcohol, of which it contains quite a bit, with barrel-strength varieties containing somewhat more. Apart from making one squiffy, alcohol actually cauterises taste buds. Drinking Scotch neat is a only to be recommended if one wants to get pissed quickly. If one wants to enjoy the process of getting pissed by liberating the marvellous volatiles which accentuate the tastes and smells, add some water. About 10% is a good ratio. Professional Scotch blenders add 20% water.
Like cognac, Scotch is best drunk warm. Body temperature is about right. It's those marvellous volatiles again you see. Adding ice is completely antagonistic to that ambition.
And if one is thirsty, drink beer.
I regularly light up a bonfire to toast philistines. People who profligately waste Scotch go to the head of the queue.
peasea
3rd May 2009, 21:21
...why the hell have I been drinking beer all these years, and missing out on what is good and right in the world?
Mr Walker is my new friend.
Cheers!
One day you'll graduate and get a big high on the burning of petroleum distillate.
Or, if you're really lucky, get stuck in a time warp and drown in a sea of slowly melting Eskimo pies.
Jim Beam mate, Jim Beam. (I think I've seen things on Jim Beam Black that weren't really there.....joy.)
gijoe1313
4th May 2009, 12:11
I guess in a few weeks time, there will be another thread from Donor about joining the AA (and that ain't the motor vehicle one!)
Absinthe and sugar lumps.....'nuff said....oh shit, I just cut my own ear off
cc rider
5th May 2009, 01:56
Absinthe and sugar lumps.....'nuff said....oh shit, I just cut my own ear off
We live for our art, baby :drinknsin
?????????? Scotch Whiskey :doh:
Whiskey is Irish
Whisky is Scottish
Scotch is American slang for Whisky.
Canadian club (sort of a Canadian whiskey) :woohoo:
Coming from Canada...Should that be wiskey or wisky then?
Noooooooooooooooooo! Gahh! Thud.
Was waiting for the "Wellington malt whisky garage evening " crowd to step in....
And yes, the bottle of Bunnahabhain Islay I just opened is nice!
Indiana_Jones
5th May 2009, 08:22
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!
-Indy
CookMySock
5th May 2009, 08:51
Coming from Canada...Should that be wiskey or wisky then?Narrr, itsshh wisshhhkey, lad.. Arrrr, :thud:
Steve
Hitcher
5th May 2009, 09:42
And yes, the bottle of Bunnahabhain Islay I just opened is nice!
Hopefully without the addition of ice or ginger ale.
Scouse
5th May 2009, 09:56
Forget the Johnny Walker there Donor try Ballantine's this is the best blended scotch whiskey.
I do enjoy a good Whisky (thread). Neither chilled, watered or fizzed.
In saying that, Some of those liquid road sploodges (ooops, I mean wonderful 24yo single malts from places that no-one but a cold-choked Hebridean can pronounce) are an acquired taste. The acquisition of which so far eludes me.
I do enjoy a good Whisky (thread). Neither chilled, watered or fizzed.
In saying that, Some of those liquid road sloodges (ooops, I mean wonderful 24yo single malts from places that no-one but a cold-choked Hebridean can pronounce) are an acquired taste. The acquisition of which so far eludes me.
three words...Practice, Practice, Practice...or is that one word thrice?
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three words...Practice, Practice, Practice...or is that one word thrice?
Sure, I can practice. You paying?
Hitcher
5th May 2009, 12:56
The acquisition of which so far eludes me.
Poor lad. Next time you're around these parts with time for a Couple Of Quiets Of An Evening(TM), please let me know and I will introduce you to The Cupboard, a place whose whereabouts is known only to a Select Few.
Road sploodge indeed.
Distill and filter your own spirits. It's much much cleaner and smoother than the two-stroke mix you buy from the wholesalers.
Many people dedicate their life to making good Whisky and its far superior to anything that someone could make at home.
If you want great whisky - put your hand deeper into your pocket and buy the good stuff - not the $12.95 bottle that indeed does taste like two-stroke.
Making it at home can be rewarding and fun - but enjoy it for the process and the personal achievement - but know it will never be as good as the very good stuff made by 'the masters'.
martybabe
5th May 2009, 14:54
Poor lad. Next time you're around these parts with time for a Couple Of Quiets Of An Evening(TM), please let me know and I will introduce you to The Cupboard, a place whose whereabouts is known only to a Select Few.
Road sploodge indeed.
I partook of a rare dram once called 'The Shiver' .I'm guessing your Shiver leaves a better aftertaste.
I Googled 'The cupboard' and it came back, see; Holy grail + select few + Hitchers house + nights Templar. :scratch: It's nice to share you know :shifty:
JacksColdSweat
5th May 2009, 16:42
Got to agree with the "drop of water" theme. Ice melts and changes the flavour as you go - but a wee drappie of water actually exposes all the flavours in a single malt and they stay the same to the bottom of the glass
It's like an expertly set graphic equaliser to music opens the music up fully so does water for your wee dram!
I use to avoid the water cos I (wrongly) thought it was about diluting - actually it's about awakening the whisky.
IMHO
Hopefully without the addition of ice or ginger ale.
Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thud.
Noooooooooooooooooo! Gahh! Thud.
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!
-Indy
1 shot rum, 1 shot old stones green ginger wine, tall glass lots of ice and topped with water....bit girly but great on a stinking hot thirsty day.
1 shot rum, 1 shot old stones green ginger wine, no water or ice...fantastic for a sore throat.
scumdog
5th May 2009, 17:15
I do enjoy a good Whisky (thread). Neither chilled, watered or fizzed.
In saying that, Some of those liquid road sploodges (ooops, I mean wonderful 24yo single malts from places that no-one but a cold-choked Hebridean can pronounce) are an acquired taste. The acquisition of which so far eludes me.
Och, when yer born there it's nae bother acqurin' a taste, it's there a'ready.
Och, when yer born there it's nae bother acqurin' a taste, it's there a'ready.
No wonder Guiness, Kilkenny (not southpark), and Jamiesons tastes so dammned good to me!
Och, when yer born there it's nae bother acqurin' a taste, it's there a'ready.
No wonder Guiness, Kilkenny (not southpark), and Jamiesons tastes so dammned good to me!
The term 'Mother's Milk' takes on a whole new connotation...
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome anyone?
The term 'Mother's Milk' takes on a whole new connotation...
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome anyone?
*burp*......
Forget the Johnny Walker there Donor try Ballantine's this is the best blended scotch whiskey.
The Johnny was a freeebie, so it tastes fine :D
Took a gentleman from hospital to his home the other day, got talking to him and his wife about drinking scotch.
When we got to his pad, we took him inside, and he showed off a shelf with approx 15 bottles of various single malts. Names I recognised (A few differing Glenfiddichs, which he called the learners bottles) and many I didn't, but that I was assured came out on only the rarest of occasions.
I was invited back when I am not on company time, alas this is not going to happen... but after talking to him, I am keen to expand my palate!
Hitcher
5th May 2009, 21:41
If you're looking for a good value blended Scotch, Famous Grouse takes a power of beating. Money no object? Try Old Parr or Chivas Regal.
If you're looking for a good value blended Scotch, Famous Grouse takes a power of beating. Money no object? Try Old Parr or Chivas Regal.
Anything peat smoke dried...and double barrelled in a couple of sweet casks
Is this the infamous 'Scotch Thread' I hear so much about?
Is this the infamous 'Scotch Thread' I hear so much about?
Or this one... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=2018406#post2018406
Skyryder
6th May 2009, 11:11
If you're looking for a good value blended Scotch, Famous Grouse takes a power of beating. Money no object? Try Old Parr or Chivas Regal.
Yes of the blends Famous Grouse is one of my favourites and another not disimular is Highland Queen.
Of the malts Highland Park is close to the top of my list if not at the top.
http://www.thewhiskyguide.com/Islands/Highland%20Park.html
Skyryder
Tried a new one last night after I bought one of my staple brands. I was given a small bottle of "Black Grouse" when I purchased a bottle of Famous Grouse. It was a very earthy dram with a good malty flavour. I will definately buy a full size bottle of it sometime...
Hitcher
7th May 2009, 12:54
Yes of the blends Famous Grouse is one of my favourites and another not disimular is Highland Queen.
Of the malts Highland Park is close to the top of my list if not at the top.
Would it surprise you to learn that Highland Park is a major constituent of the Famous Grouse blend?
Hitcher
7th May 2009, 12:57
Tried a new one last night after I bought one of my staple brands. I was given a small bottle of "Black Grouse" when I purchased a bottle of Famous Grouse. It was a very earthy dram with a good malty flavour. I will definately buy a full size bottle of it sometime...
Black Grouse is a one-off special peated version. Good luck with your hunt for more!
Beemer
7th May 2009, 17:08
Well said YD although I'd go one step further and say it's a shame to spoil a good single malt with anything at all.
I agree - much prefer it neat! I like Bushmills (Irish) and Talisker (from the Isle of Skye) - that one is very intense, 45.8% proof and quite an acquired taste. I also like Jamesons - very smooth. I used to like Glenfiddich but find it a bit thin now - it's great for cooking though!
martybabe
7th May 2009, 17:19
I agree - much prefer it neat! YES! I like Bushmills (Irish)YES! and Talisker (from the Isle of Skye) - that one is very intense, 45.8% proof and quite an acquired taste YES!. I also like Jamesons - very smooth. I used to like Glenfiddich but find it a bit thin now YES! - it's great for cooking though!
Cripes, there's a girl I'd like to have a tipple with, what extraordinary good taste you have. :hug:
My personal favourite is Glen Farchlas cask strength but I've yet to find anyone that will drink the yummy 60%iness with me, you may be the girl I've been looking for all my life. :yes:
Beemer
7th May 2009, 17:32
Hitcher's not the only one with a 'cupboard' by the sound of it! My mother could never understand where I got my love of fine alcohol from as she didn't drink and my father liked rum. I love champagne (would drink it EVERY day if I were rich enough) and I love cognac and whisky/whiskey. I started on Glenfiddich and thought it was nice, but once I had tried others, I realised it wasn't as good as some of the others. I've got a little book called Classic Malts and I've ticked the ones I've tried and liked - Oban, Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Dalwhinnie, Cragganmore, Cardhu - and a few others I have forgotten.
I once went to Manfeild for a riding course and took a bottle of 10 year-old Bushmills. The girl I was sharing a room with ran out of grog so said if I let her drink mine, she'd replace it. No problem, it's not like I'd ever drink a bottle in a night (or even a month!), so I let her. I drank maybe 100-200ml maximum and she polished off the rest of the 700ml or so bottle! And what did she give me the next day? A bottle of Johnnie Walker red label, which I would not drink even if I were dying of thirst! She said they didn't have any Bushmills in Feilding - well, I would have been MORE than happy to wait until we got back to bloody Wellington in that case!
Sorry to sound like the perfect woman (I'm definitely not in reality!) but I'm already taken!
Just had a look and the cupboard isn't as well stocked as I remembered - damn that Scotsman whose name we never mention who stayed with us a while back! A bottle of Jamesons 12 year old, Bushmills 10 year old, Talisker and that's it. But I do have a bottle of Courvoisier and four bottles of champagne, including a very nice 1999 Perrier Jouet with hand enamelled flowers on the bottle!
martybabe
7th May 2009, 20:55
Sorry to sound like the perfect woman (I'm definitely not in reality!) but I'm already taken!
:laugh: Don't get me wrong I'm very much taken by the 'Bride' and she loves me, I tell her every day how much she loves me :crazy: it would just be nice to share a wee dram with someone that appreciates it. She reckons My Farchlas 105 tastes like cough mixture and napalm. :angry2: You see what I've got to work with ?
I think I'll have a sip now, this threads put me in the mood and it's a bit bloomin cold up me trosacks. Cheers :drinknsin
Beemer
8th May 2009, 10:21
:laugh: Don't get me wrong I'm very much taken by the 'Bride' and she loves me, I tell her every day how much she loves me :crazy: it would just be nice to share a wee dram with someone that appreciates it. She reckons My Farchlas 105 tastes like cough mixture and napalm. :angry2: You see what I've got to work with ?
I think I'll have a sip now, this threads put me in the mood and it's a bit bloomin cold up me trosacks. Cheers :drinknsin
Ha ha - snap! My other half doesn't drink at all, so he reckons all wine smells (and tastes) like vinegar and that whiskey smells like paint stripper! I just wish he didn't like chocolate either, then my stash of that would be safe too!
Skyryder
8th May 2009, 11:34
I agree - much prefer it neat! I like Bushmills (Irish) and Talisker (from the Isle of Skye) - that one is very intense, 45.8% proof and quite an acquired taste. I also like Jamesons - very smooth. I used to like Glenfiddich but find it a bit thin now - it's great for cooking though!
Glenfiddich has the highest sales of all the malts. This in no way makes it the best. It's just that if someone who does not know much about malts, and I'm no expert, and they want a malt Glenfiddich is usually one that they have heard of. Bit like Harleys realy............does the job but there are others for those that know.:girlfight::dodge:
Skyryder
Hitcher
8th May 2009, 12:17
The Glenfiddich 12-year-old is lovely. Malts need to be appreciated for what they are, not what you'd like them to be.
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