I need some REALLY warm gloves, your tips please

[Armitage Shanks]

Heading down to Mt Cook and further south in a few days....current leather gloves are rubbish for finger warmth. ( C R A P )

I'm prepared to pay up to 200 but no more for a decent pair of warm gloves, any tips on what not to buy, what to buy ? :eek5:

[Charlie41]

I am also looking for new gloves, but I need WARM and WATER PROOF :crazy:

[CookMySock]

Heated grips and jacket will be mint. You can spend ya money on new gloves, and it will be better, but heated gear is teh shizo - permanently end of problem. If you only want to speed 200 bucks, get a heated vest.

Steve

[The Pastor]

I can tell you how to make the warmest gloves out for about $1.

Disposeable latex gloves under your bike ones. amazing. you'll get sweaty tho.

[NighthawkNZ]

Heading down to Mt Cook and further south in a few days....current leather gloves are rubbish for finger warmth. ( C R A P )

I'm prepared to pay up to 200 but no more for a decent pair of warm gloves, any tips on what not to buy, what to buy ? :eek5:

heated grips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchType=all&searchString=heated+grips&searchregion=100&type=Search)... and mine cost $120 (brand new) you may pick up a chea set from tardme

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

I have gloves for sale. Very warm and waterproof.

Linky

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=2042665

Honestly, they are good gloves - just bought wrong size. To try, either contact me or (if not in welly) just pop into a dealer that stocks them and try them on (and then come back to me if they are right for you.

Cheers

[Armitage Shanks]

[QUOTE=DangerousBastard;1129197366]Heated grips and jacket will be mint. You can spend ya money on new gloves, and it will be better, but heated gear is teh shizo - permanently end of problem. If you only want to speed 200 bucks, get a heated vest.

Not worried about the rest of my body, just the gloves ...not interested in getting heated grips......thanks for your comments :yawn:

[FJRider]

Seldom such things as "waterproof"... merely water "resistant". I use a pair of Dririder gloves, which are warm even in Central otago winters. A pair of Over gloves may be purchased if extra waterproofing is required after that. My Dririder gloves cost about $90 ... when I bought mine.

[Sidewinder]

Heading down to Mt Cook and further south in a few days....current leather gloves are rubbish for finger warmth. ( C R A P )

I'm prepared to pay up to 200 but no more for a decent pair of warm gloves, any tips on what not to buy, what to buy ? :eek5:

get some alpinestars winter gloves! i think they were only like $160 or something like that.... there great because they are leather but have all the good warm bits inside and water proof and not to big

[CookMySock]

Not worried about the rest of my body, just the gloves ...not interested in getting heated grips......thanks for your comments :yawn:Uh huh, good. For anyone ELSEs information then - theres little or no point trying to keep your hands warm when your torso is cooling off. The body naturally cuts off circulation to your extremities to protect the core. SO if your core is getting cold the first things to FEEL cold are your fingers and toes. To keep your fingers and toes warm, get a warm JACKET, or better still, a heated one.

disclaimer: That is only what I was told. Could a medical-type person comment?

cheers,
Steve

[YLWDUC]

Get a nice gortex lined pair of gloves that are just a bit too large. The air gap should keep your hands a bit warmer than usual. Plus I find tucking my fingernails in to touch the grip keeps them out of the wind.

[FJRider]

Uh huh, good. For anyone ELSEs information then - theres little or no point trying to keep your hands warm when your torso is cooling off. The body naturally cuts off circulation to your extremities to protect the core. SO if your core is getting cold the first things to FEEL cold are your fingers and toes. To keep your fingers and toes warm, get a warm JACKET, or better still, a heated one.

disclaimer: That is only what I was told. Could a medical-type person comment?

cheers,
Steve

It gets worse ... when the body core drops, blood temperature also drops. Which affects the speed/way the brain thinks. Early stages of hypothermia...
I would suggest those that ride without good gear, in colder times, read up about it.
A bad decision at this time(when you are cold) ... may kill you.

[Hitcher]

1. Heated grips. Oxford or Daytona, but the Oxford has the smarter switch unit. Every bike should have heated grips as standard kit.

3. Silk glove liners. Go to a good outdoors store. It's amazing the difference these make, and they're not as bulk as polyprop or wool.

[Mikkel]

Uh huh, good. For anyone ELSEs information then - theres little or no point trying to keep your hands warm when your torso is cooling off. The body naturally cuts off circulation to your extremities to protect the core. SO if your core is getting cold the first things to FEEL cold are your fingers and toes. To keep your fingers and toes warm, get a warm JACKET, or better still, a heated one.

Quite right, that is if you get to the point of hypothermia... which is where, incidentally, we do not want to go. Which means that you advice is pretty much rubbish, sorry.

As a matter of fact you loose a very significant of your body heat through your hands and wrists (together with your head and your feet) because you have both major blood vessels close to the skin and a high density of capilary arteries just below the surface.
In first aid, if you want to re-warm a person, you gently warm the wrists and the ankles to get the temperature back up in the extremities (recirculating very cold blood back to the core can cause various issues once the body "powers" back up again).
You can try the converse, i.e. cooling your wrists under the cold tap, if you are getting extremely hot - it works wonders.

Keeping your hands warm while riding is important both to avoid hypothermia and to retain feel in your fingers. Your braking, clutch and throttle control turns to shit if you got diminished tactile feedback.

[Edbear]

Quite right, that is if you get to the point of hypothermia... which is where, incidentally, we do not want to go. Which means that you advice is pretty much rubbish, sorry.

As a matter of fact you loose a very significant of your body heat through your hands and wrists (together with your head and your feet) because you have both major blood vessels close to the skin and a high density of capilary arteries just below the surface.
In first aid, if you want to re-warm a person, you gently warm the wrists and the ankles to get the temperature back up in the extremities (recirculating very cold blood back to the core can cause various issues once the body "powers" back up again).
You can try the converse, i.e. cooling your wrists under the cold tap, if you are getting extremely hot - it works wonders.

Keeping your hands warm while riding is important both to avoid hypothermia and to retain feel in your fingers. Your braking, clutch and throttle control turns to shit if you got diminished tactile feedback.

Good tip, thanks!

[ManDownUnder]

And the cheapest way to keep your core warm is... newspaper!

$1.50 each, available all over the place. Stop, buy one open it and wrap it around yourself - do your jacket up and you're off. You look like a knob doing it but it works.

[NighthawkNZ]

I have never found a waterproof pair of gloves yet... water resistant but not water proof...

The great thing about heated grips... is when your gloves finally give and start to seap and leak through the heated grips will come into their own and and heats the layer of water in your gloves, so your hands are still warm, sorta acting like a wetsuit. :wacko:

I find putting on bulky winter gloves and over gloves very clumsy and loose the movement and even find them clumsy operating the finger controls on the bike.

I agree with Hitcher Heated grips should be standard on all road bikes.

The other thing is it depends on your riding position, i.e; sport bike riders usually find that the water runs down their arm into there gloves... :bash:

[Guzza]

You might consider Rain-Off over mitts. I own a pair but have yet to use them but if the customer feed back on the website is to be believed, they sound pretty good. http://www.rain-off.com/

[zeocen]

I got some Oxford heated grips for $99 on sale at Botany Honda, they are freaking fantastic. I'm instantly converted and will be a standard on all my bikes to come, I've been looking into silk undergloves also as I too don't like bulky winter gloves (sometimes I find the extra bulk interferes when grabbing the levers), for now though, the heated grips are a life saver - nothing like having moveable digits!

[awayatc]

only people that don't like heated grips are those who haven't tried them....

[NZsarge]

Uh huh, good. For anyone ELSEs information then - theres little or no point trying to keep your hands warm when your torso is cooling off. The body naturally cuts off circulation to your extremities to protect the core. SO if your core is getting cold the first things to FEEL cold are your fingers and toes. To keep your fingers and toes warm, get a warm JACKET, or better still, a heated one.

disclaimer: That is only what I was told. Could a medical-type person comment?

cheers,
Steve

I know something for sure and that's if I start feeling chilly while riding and I put the headed grips on I instantly feel warmer even though only my hands are being warmed up so your theory or what you were told stands up as far as i'm concerned.
I have to say that only works to a certain extent though, as you say, couple heated grips with a heated vest or at least one with a decent wind blocking warm liner and you should be all the warmer still.

[NZsarge]

only people that don't like heated grips are those who haven't tried them....

Precisely!

[DingoZ]

Quasimoto Winter Extreme Gloves. Bought a pair myself......Nice and warm

[Gremlin]

Lets not forget, that for longer rides in particular, if your extremities are getting cold, the body will expend more energy trying to keep them warm, thus tiring you faster etc.

Rain Offs. I have a pair. One massive bloody disadvantage is how on earth are you supposed to tighten them up yourself? You need two hands to do them up - except one hand is in the glove. You could use your teeth you say... yeah, but they're inside my helmet, and with 0 dexterity once the gloves are on, I can't do up a helmet.

Fantastic, if you can get used to the uselessness of your hands (I have the 1-1-3 webbing) and using a GPS is a whole lot harder (since your hands are so blunt) but, done up properly, zero water gets through.

Ride with someone when using them, is my tip. You can undo them yourself, but you can't do them up.

Quasi's winter gloves I think are being discontinued. Haven't had a proper test yet (ie, real cold stuff) but they have a closure system similar to rain offs, but you can do them up yourself. Still lose a lot of dexterity though, and I find the fingers overly long. Good gloves though, not for around town really, but great for long trips me thinks.

Heated grips, definitely. Try doing Desert Rd, night/early morning, temperature around zero... grips are lovely (get a good pair, like Oxford).

Also focus on the areas where you are losing heat, neck is one key area, feet if your boots aren't waterproof, or winter boots.

[The Pastor]

also toto speical rubbish sacks work well :D

[vifferman]

heated grips (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchType=all&searchString=heated+grips&searchregion=100&type=Search)... and mine cost $120 (brand new) you may pick up a chea set from tardme
You got ripped off. Bought some Oxfords last week from Cycletreads for $99.

If you want warm and dry hands, get some hand guards (of the type used on adventure bikes) fitted to your bars. The most effective way to keep your hands warm and dry is to isolate them from what's like to make them wet and cold. Then start adding things like thick, waterproof gloves or hand heaters.

[Mikkel]

Rain Offs. I have a pair. One massive bloody disadvantage is how on earth are you supposed to tighten them up yourself? You need two hands to do them up - except one hand is in the glove. You could use your teeth you say... yeah, but they're inside my helmet, and with 0 dexterity once the gloves are on, I can't do up a helmet.

I'd be careful with that. A -5 adjustment to your armor class means you're much more likely to get hit.

I'll get me coat.

[Gremlin]

I'd be careful with that. A -5 adjustment to your armor class means you're much more likely to get hit.

I'll get me coat.
:killingme... ah, but I have knox armour from quasi, chest and back, thats got to be worth at least +20

I know, coz things have hit me in the chest, and I've landed on my front when crashing too :sweatdrop

[Oscar]

I have a pair of polyprop gloves from Kathmandu on my bike (only about $7 a pair).
Put 'em on under my regular gloves...

[Armitage Shanks]

Uh huh, good. For anyone ELSEs information then - theres little or no point trying to keep your hands warm when your torso is cooling off. The body naturally cuts off circulation to your extremities to protect the core. SO if your core is getting cold the first things to FEEL cold are your fingers and toes. To keep your fingers and toes warm, get a warm JACKET, or better still, a heated one.

disclaimer: That is only what I was told. Could a medical-type person comment?

cheers,
Steve

Thanks Steve, I should have explained better, I have all the other really good gear, jacket etc etc , just the gloves I have are C R A P ...cheers

[jrandom]

:killingme... ah, but I have knox armour from quasi, chest and back, thats got to be worth at least +20

I love my Rain-Offs. Anyhow, cold wet hands will take you down to 3 Dex in no time flat, not to mention the possible longer-term risk to Con.

Also, I have no trouble getting them on. Simple matter of grasping the end of the drawstring with the thumb and forefinger of the hand in the glove. Perhaps that part has something to do with Int.

:shutup:

And, while heated grips are the bestest idea ever (Betty will be getting a set shortly, I think) a good warm pair of glubs does help. Rev'it make a nice set that sells for $200 at Motomail. I've tried them on and they seem as good as any I've tried at any price.

[xgnr]

You might consider Rain-Off over mitts. I own a pair but have yet to use them but if the customer feed back on the website is to be believed, they sound pretty good. http://www.rain-off.com/

These are the Best investment I have ever made (except for 42 Below shares).

Cheers

Stu

[doc]

Yep go for the Rainoffs . Everything can get wet on the West Coast somethime. Rainoffs are great. Especially if I can find them when I need em.

[Swoop]

Spidi Fijord.
Go on. Spend the money.

[xgnr]

Spidi Fijord.
Go on. Spend the money.

Gotta pair of these... nice glubs but costly

and they leak :argh:

[Winston001]

If you really want warm dry hands use motorcycle mitts. http://www.morleymotorcycles.co.nz/motorcyclesmarine.php?category=23&brand=0&piece=419

Nothing wrong with heated grips but they won't keep your gloves dry.

Simplicity to fit and remove, complete coverage, dry. Easy. I've got mine on for the Cold Duck journey coming up.

[Swoop]

Gotta pair of these... nice glubs but costly

and they leak :argh:
They are superb for me. As a semi professional nail-biter, the cold affects the fingertips quite badly. Since getting a pair of these a couple of years back, the fingers have been toasty warm and completely dry ever since. No need for this "heated grip" nonsense. It sounds a lot like witchcraft really...

[xgnr]

They are superb for me. As a semi professional nail-biter, the cold affects the fingertips quite badly. Since getting a pair of these a couple of years back, the fingers have been toasty warm and completely dry ever since. No need for this "heated grip" nonsense. It sounds a lot like witchcraft really...

Yes to be fair, they are probably one of the best ones about.
But they all leak at some point just depends if its after 15 mins of rain or 1 hour I guess. Hence the lovliness of Rain-offs cos they provide waterproofing and keep the wind off. Wet gloves are not warm gloves right?

If you are into long rides (500km +) all year round then you cant go past Spidi's, silk inners, Rain-offs and heated grips. If you can get hand guards then I reckon the Spidis alone will do the business. They make a huuuuge difference.

[Winston001]

FYI I have ridden to a Brass Monkey using only cotton gloves inside handlebar muffs otherwise known as Hippo Hands.

[Bike-aholic]

Heading down to Mt Cook and further south in a few days....current leather gloves are rubbish for finger warmth. ( C R A P )

I'm prepared to pay up to 200 but no more for a decent pair of warm gloves, any tips on what not to buy, what to buy ? :eek5:


These are good and 100 percent waterproof i have a pair medium and xs for sale for $100ea they are just to small for me big mits.

http://www.roadgear.com/index.php?page=Product&id=46

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-gloves/waterproof-motorcycle-gloves/

[Bike-aholic]

http://www.roadgear.com/index.php?page=Product&id=46

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...rcycle-gloves/

:Oops:

[Devil]

For $100 you cant go past the heated grips. Dunno why you wouldn't want them unless you're insecure in your manhood.

Best thing since sliced bread. Ever.

Get the heated grips, and get some inner gloves as Oscar suggested.

[HenryDorsetCase]

1. Heated grips. Oxford or Daytona, but the Oxford has the smarter switch unit. Every bike should have heated grips as standard kit.

3. Silk glove liners. Go to a good outdoors store. It's amazing the difference these make, and they're not as bulk as polyprop or wool.

I am presently pondering this very purchase. I am over being cold on a bike and it might prolong my riding season somewhat. [insert generic story of being "so cold that...." BITD here]

thanks to whoever gave the tip about Oxford.

Easy to fit by a hamfisted layman without burning the house down?

[NighthawkNZ]

You got ripped off. Bought some Oxfords last week from Cycletreads for $99.


120 installed 2 or 3 years ago...

[Hitcher]

Easy to fit by a hamfisted layman without burning the house down?

If said layman reads the instructions first. Wire straight to the battery, as 13 volts is required to run them. There's an auto cutout once the voltage drops below 11V -- handy if one walks away from one's bike with the grips still running...

The cunning Poms have thought of everything!

[Sharry]

Rain Offs. I have a pair. One massive bloody disadvantage is how on earth are you supposed to tighten them up yourself? You need two hands to do them up - except one hand is in the glove. You could use your teeth you say... yeah, but they're inside my helmet, and with 0 dexterity once the gloves are on, I can't do up a helmet.

Fantastic, if you can get used to the uselessness of your hands (I have the 1-1-3 webbing) and using a GPS is a whole lot harder (since your hands are so blunt) but, done up properly, zero water gets through.

Ride with someone when using them, is my tip. You can undo them yourself, but you can't do them up.

I have the 1-2-2 webbed rain offs. They block out all rain and the wind so cutting out the wind chill factor.
I do mine up myself. I pull one pull cord out with opposite hand and use the fingers of the hand it is on to slide the knobby thing. I have found when it is stretched the point to which I can pull down the plastic knobby thing makes it fit just right when I let it go.

[Flip]

I have a pair of Frank Thomas heavy winter gloves I got in the UK. They are relatively water proof but by the end of a days riding the water wicks into the glove via the gauntlett.
Nothing beats heated bars, nothing, once you have then you will never go without them. It doesent matter if your hands get wet as long as they are warm. I have old fitter hands that ache when they get cold and I ride most of the winter in summer racing gloves. Its only really going down to the Brass Monkey I need my pair of medium weight winter gloves. The Frank Thomas only get taken out in serious hell has frozen over Otago frosts.

[Radar]

I have heated grips, good winter gloves and polypropylene glove liners, but my Rainoff (http://www.rain-off.com/) over-gloves are by far the best for keeping my hands warm (and dry). My heated grips keep my palms warm but not the finger tips. You can also get rainproof over-gloves (actually they are mits with a thumb and finger) at farm supply shops such as Elders or Farmlands and these will have a thin layer of insulation inside the glove/mit.

[Devil]

Just ordered myself some of the RainOff overgloves. Looking forward to trying them out. Cheaper than buying ANOTHER set of crap winter gloves.

[R1madness]

Well i have just fitted a set of heated gloves to my bike. They are awsome, thermostat controled adjustable heat. Cost a bit at $250 + fitting, but you can do it yourself in about 40 mins its easy. They work really well. They not only heat your hands but also warn the blood circulating back towards your heart therefor keeping your whole body warmer. It anyone wants to try a pair i have a set at the shop wired up on display. mmmmm toasty.

[NOWOOL]

Don't know if they sell them here, but in the States there's winter gauntlets that attach to the handlebars and your gloved hands slide into them (they cover half-way up your forearm). They are waterproof and windproof and don't have the disadvantages of mitts.

[JAS-1100]

winter gauntlets same as the farmers use on there 4 wheelers honda casbolts sell them about $50 i have a pair as well went to the brass monkeys with them on what a god send

[BMWST?]

Don't know if they sell them here, but in the States there's winter gauntlets that attach to the handlebars and your gloved hands slide into them (they cover half-way up your forearm). They are waterproof and windproof and don't have the disadvantages of mitts.

hippo hands or similar. but the water can still run down your sleeves into the mitt....

[Despatch]

I also swear by handlebar muffs, or whatever you prefer to call them. The only downside is they don't look too stylish on the handlebars, but nothing beats them. Commonly used by despatch riders in the UK and very effective. I'm after a new pair myself. They also keep your gloves dry. See the following link as an example. So simple, yet so effective:

http://www.bikebitzuk.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1173

Paradoxically, fingerless gloves help keep your fingers warm. They still allow mobility of the fingers, and can be worn under most motorcyle gloves. If your hands are warm, it is easier for your body to warm your fingers too.

[Winston001]

Ok - just done the long and excruciatingly cold return trip to Invercargill from the Cold Duck in Waipawa. Used mitts/Hippohands all the way. Gloves stayed dry and almost warm enough.

The farm type mitts don't have reinforcing wire around the edges so that the mitts get pushed back onto the levers at high speed. I put some No 8 in at the moment until I work out something better.

The proper roadbike mitts do have reinforcing but you can't buy them at your local shop.

I have to say that after an hour in the current wicked weather my hands were cold. Did 13 hours Blenheim to Invercargill and it would have been easier with warm hands.

So I'm going to get heated grips. The logic of keeping your extremities warm to avoid a drop in core body temp is inescapable. It took a full day before I felt warm again so must have been slightly hypothermic.

[Pussy]

I have a mate who has a pair of Alpinestars "365 Gore-Tex" leather gloves. He swears by them. Leather, all the armour, waterproof, and warm. They aren't cheap, but they are VERY nice gloves

[Bow-Down]

Get the possum fur gloves from Katmandu theyre thin and super warm, just wear them under your motorbike gloves.

[6ft5]

I know something for sure and that's if I start feeling chilly while riding and I put the headed grips on I instantly feel warmer even though only my hands are being warmed up so your theory or what you were told stands up as far as i'm concerned.
I have to say that only works to a certain extent though, as you say, couple heated grips with a heated vest or at least one with a decent wind blocking warm liner and you should be all the warmer still.

Totally agree, do it al the time !!

[xgnr]

So I'm going to get heated grips. The logic of keeping your extremities warm to avoid a drop in core body temp is inescapable. It took a full day before I felt warm again so must have been slightly hypothermic.

Hi Winston

We met at the cold Duck. Glad to hear that you got home in one (cold) piece.

Heated grips are compulsory for any bike I own (being a soft bastard this is important) :cold:

You will be a convert !

[Winston001]

Hi XGNR, great to meet you too. It was an excellent rally and particularly good to meet some KBers in the living flesh. :D

Getting some hotgrips put on next week - just been struggling in my garage trying to remove the ST4 fairings - gave up. :sweatdrop

[R1madness]

start at the top fairing and work down. Its the only way sorry....

[Winston001]

start at the top fairing and work down. Its the only way sorry....

WTF?? :eek: In that case I'll leave the rest of it to the bike shop. :D