I know know why drivers hate scooter riders

[Lil_Byte]

Up until last week my wife (my pillion)and I rode a motorcycle to work but decided that commuting was too hard on the bike so decided to get a scooter to commute to work and save the bike for the open rode.

Up until now I have never really taken notice of the scootees. Now I am one of them, a scootte, that is I have started to take notice.

Passing on yellow lines, riding over footpaths, cutting in front of cars......the list of inconsiderate actions doesn't really stop. I sort of feel ashamed on their behalf. But what the hell, I am enjoying the scooter (a 250cc Yamaha Majesty). But please don't tar me with the same brush of the idiots. :argh:

[Motu]

Know,know,know.

Now,now,now.

[Patch]

commuting was too hard on the bike
try walking or :wacko: just stay in bed if life is too hard :pinch:

[XRVrider]

Each to their own tactics. Scooter riders might think they have a few benefits with being small, and they do, but some guys are dicks with how they put other drivers out.

[Laxi]

Passing on yellow lines, riding over footpaths, cutting in front of cars......the list of inconsiderate actions doesn't really stop.


add all while wearing their tshirt and board shorts

[NSR-Dan]

worst i have seen is togs (swimming attire for the non kiwi's) jandals and a helmet. thats it, and to make it worst this was on the motorway doing 100kms.

[UberRhys]

Passing on yellow lines, riding over footpaths, cutting in front of cars......the list of inconsiderate actions doesn't really stop. I sort of feel ashamed on their behalf. But what the hell, I am enjoying the scooter (a 250cc Yamaha Majesty). But please don't tar me with the same brush of the idiots. :argh:

:killingme:killingmeHehehe...:killingme:killingme Have you seen the crazies in cages that do the same things? I have seen some interesting interpretations of "roads" and "parking zones" around Auckland City.

I don't feel ashamed because I also have a cage. I do get pissed off at people who abuse disabled parking zones.:tugger::weird:

[Flatcap]

worst i have seen is togs (swimming attire for the non kiwi's) jandals and a helmet. thats it, and to make it worst this was on the motorway doing 100kms.


Was she hot?

[Taz]

worst i have seen is togs (swimming attire for the non kiwi's) jandals and a helmet. thats it, and to make it worst this was on the motorway doing 100kms.

All totally legal BTW.

[Roki_nz]

worst i have seen is togs (swimming attire for the non kiwi's) jandals and a helmet. thats it, and to make it worst this was on the motorway doing 100kms.

What worse is the people who wear their work attire, half faced helmet, mabey some gloves on a wet and windy cold wellington day where i would be cold even wearing full gear. I don't know how they deal with that cold

[Pieyed]

They look funny wearing heels going up the terrace on scooters. Add wind and no jacket. Mad.

[CookMySock]

It's awesome on the open road at the speed limit in summer with shorts and tee-shirt on. The perfect way to cool off. Fark you'd wanna be real careful though.. I've done it once, but only once - keep well clear of anything and anyone.

Steve

[UberRhys]

worst i have seen is togs (swimming attire for the non kiwi's) jandals and a helmet. thats it, and to make it worst this was on the motorway doing 100kms.


Was she hot?



:killingme:rofl: I hope it wasn't a one piece :eek5::killingme:rofl:

[speedpro]

It's awesome on the open road at the speed limit in summer with shorts and tee-shirt on. The perfect way to cool off. Fark you'd wanna be real careful though.. I've done it once, but only once - keep well clear of anything and anyone.

Steve

I lived in Perth and did it all the time in Summer. It's just too damn hot in summer to wear the gear.

[fredie]

or wear skirts :bleh:

[6ft5]

worst i have seen is togs (swimming attire for the non kiwi's) jandals and a helmet. thats it, and to make it worst this was on the motorway doing 100kms.

I hate them, they don't have any consideration for the road rules or other riders. They need to be :spanking:

[Pixie]

I hate them, they don't have any consideration for the road rules or other riders. They need to be :spanking:

I hate them there motociclists,always breaking the speed limit,riding between traffic,parking more than one to a parking space,falling off and causing the STU to close the roads,using up hospital beds ,Harley riders never wave at ya,eating into ACC's profits.In my day they'd string 'em up,they would.I used to push my Brough to work so I didn't disturb the community.It shouldn't be allowed,they ought to make a law ag.....:zzzz::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:

[allycatz]

I hate them, they don't have any consideration for the road rules or other riders. They need to be :spanking:

Some would probably enjoy a good spanking:bleh:

[6ft5]

so what is stopping us....i mean spanking them
:Police:

[p.dath]

Jesus, that would be cold!

[6ft5]

but sooo satisfying....

[Danae]

This thread went downhill quickly XD

[YellowDog]

Up until last week my wife (my pillion)and I rode a motorcycle to work but decided that commuting was too hard on the bike so decided to get a scooter to commute to work and save the bike for the open rode.

Up until now I have never really taken notice of the scootees. Now I am one of them, a scootte, that is I have started to take notice.

Passing on yellow lines, riding over footpaths, cutting in front of cars......the list of inconsiderate actions doesn't really stop. I sort of feel ashamed on their behalf. But what the hell, I am enjoying the scooter (a 250cc Yamaha Majesty). But please don't tar me with the same brush of the idiots. :argh:
I think you have already identified the route of the problem.

Most scooter riders are inexperienced and are either very young or just riding on their car licence having had no instruction. Hence, they have no idea as to the dos and don'ts for two wheelers.

Yes you will get tarred with the same brush.

Good luck.

[pritch]

[QUOTE=Lil_Byte;1129204624]
Passing on yellow lines, riding over footpaths, cutting in front of cars......QUOTE]

Ummm loosen up a bit there :whistle:

I don't pass on yellow lines, haven't got enough grunt in the moped to pass anything up the outside. Do a lot of undertaking when the traffic is slow though. I don't usually ride across footpaths but regularly resort to riding along them, and driveways, and pedestrian underpasses... Whatever it takes...

Some of this probably pisses car some drivers off, but then some car drivers piss me off too.

[DangerMice]

Most scooter riders are inexperienced and are either very young or just riding on their car licence having had no instruction. Hence, they have no idea as to the dos and don'ts for two wheelers.


I am "just riding on my car license" but I don't pass on yellow lines, ride over footpaths or cut in front of cars. I don't even filter up to the lights if I know I'll be slow off the mark (ie bottom of a hill or something), but, and I mean no disrespect, by the same token, how many motorcyclists have had no instruction other than the basic handling course, which everyone says is a piece of piss to pass anyway?

[Spearfish]

Its interesting how people say moped riders riding on just a car licence are dangerous and should have proper "Training" by getting their licence.
So what is proper training?
Legally all I have to do is do a basic handling course ( weave around cones, start, stop, turn, brake in turn, emergency stop etc all from below 20kph) get the cert and do a scratch card, then I can get a 250 ninja and try not get caught going over 70kph. (tui advert)
Its interesting that at this point a moped rider on a car licence and a learner "real bike" rider on the 250 ninja still have the same level of "road craft" skills, the big difference is the moped is restricted (usually physically) to 50kph+- and can ride night & day, the "proper bike" restricted (own mind/fear) 70kph and day only.
So for that argument to stick no one should be on the road unless they have passed their restricted tests ( the first low level road skill test). I'm sure that happening to "real bikers" would go down like a led zeppelin.

[carver]

tar me with that brush, i ride one like a motard in town

[modboy]

tar me too - almost - the reason for having a scooter is so as not to have to put up with the inconveniences of cages. I refuse to sit in a queue of traffic at the lights, and I don't ever worry about where i am gonna park.

Having said that - some dicknose in a clapped out susuki hatch back tryed to underpass me on petone forshore today - damn, I was wearing my John Bulls too. Couldn't believe it.

All that said - proper bike arrives in July and I realise I'll have to pull my head in somewhat (yea right!)

[YellowDog]

I am sur ethere are lots of good scooter riders out there.

I do feel sorry fot the 50Kph limited units. I see them everyday riding down the cycle lane and too scared to join the flow of traffic.

Pittiful.

[kunoichi]

Its interesting how people say moped riders riding on just a car licence are dangerous and should have proper "Training" by getting their licence.
So what is proper training?
Legally all I have to do is do a basic handling course ( weave around cones, start, stop, turn, brake in turn, emergency stop etc all from below 20kph) get the cert and do a scratch card, then I can get a 250 ninja and try not get caught going over 70kph. (tui advert)
Its interesting that at this point a moped rider on a car licence and a learner "real bike" rider on the 250 ninja still have the same level of "road craft" skills, the big difference is the moped is restricted (usually physically) to 50kph+- and can ride night & day, the "proper bike" restricted (own mind/fear) 70kph and day only.
So for that argument to stick no one should be on the road unless they have passed their restricted tests ( the first low level road skill test). I'm sure that happening to "real bikers" would go down like a led zeppelin.

I completely agree! technically i don't have any more skills than the next moped rider (funnily enuf i ride a 250 ninja too), however, i can say that i am alot less a dick on the road that these guys on scooters and alot more considerate. Yes i do filter through trafic, but only if there is a decent size queue and a space up front for me (not just skip the one car infront of me at the lights), and i don't think i'v riden faster than 15kph over the speed of traffic while filtering, giving myself a chance to stop if someone tries to cut me off (or some dick head opens his door just to stop me like on the western mway the other day) and not to shock the cagers into a flinching movement. Other than those things, i don't ride over footpaths or block other motorcyclists (if they are filtering faster than me) or box them in when parking. All in all, i find motorcyclists alot more considerate than scooter riders, and that's why they are regarded as fucktards.:bash: Sorry, but i don't think a motorcyclist is going to notice ur really a motorcyclists on a scooter, especially if u'r being as inconsiderate as u say u r.

[FROSTY]

how many of you lot have actually ridden a 50cc scooter? those lil wheels make for interesting handling to say the least

[slofox]

I got stuck behind some old fart on a scooter today...he wobbled along the middle of the lane, weaving right and left at 40km/hr...until he came to a corner, when he slowed to 20km/hr...I was too scared to try and pass him - I felt sure he would wobble under the wheels of the cage and end up staining my paintwork. Oh and he was dressed in the regulation uniform...dress shoes and socks on his feet, open faced helmet, lightweight rainproof jacket...the road was as wet as and he looked very insecure. I think I would have been walking, myself...he was obviously a braver man than I am...

[James Deuce]

They're called "scroters".

[Spearfish]

It can get tricky when comparing bikes or scooters and who is worse than the other. Bikers argue what's the best bike Touring/sport/motard/side-car? then scooterists argue over twist and goes or coffee grinders or if the Gilera gp800 is really a scooter or auto bike or the only real scooter is a pressed tin jobbie. Then it hits the fan over who needs the best skill level to ride what.
I think it evens out over a weekend with the weekend warriors ride out to their favourite twisties.
I have had a guy on a Chinese 100cc hard tail chopper try to race me along Te Atatu road and loose it on the Glendene roundabout, blood everywhere proving board shorts, singlet and bicycle skid lid is the way to skin grafts, I have helped a rider wait for an ambo after he dropped is bike in a ditch after apexing way to early and running out of road and nerve to lay it over.
The only difference between the two was one was peak hour traffic with hundreds to watch and the other was in full view of 100 odd cows.
I think scooters are in view way more than perhaps bikes not that its any excuse or defence for some dodgy riding.