Anyone here know anything about the NZSAS?

[wbks]

Just what the title says. Anyone here know much about them? And by that I don't just mean "has read/heard stuff about them"

[Two Smoker]

Just what the title says. Anyone here know much about them? And by that I don't just mean "has read/heard stuff about them"


If i or others did, do you really think thhey would be posting up on here???

[cs363]

Not sure what kind of info you are after, but I have an acquaintance who was a former member and getting any info out of him about it and his experiences is pretty much like the preverbial getting blood out of a stone scenario!
From what I've gathered over the years they are probably trained to keep a low profile publicly and most likely sign some sort of secrecy agreement. The odd person I've heard talking about 'being in the SAS' or similar usually turns out to be a blow arse.

Just my 2c :)

[NighthawkNZ]

Just what the title says. Anyone here know much about them? And by that I don't just mean "has read/heard stuff about them"


I could tell you ... but then I would have to kill you...

It is very rear that some in SAS will tell you they are in SAS or have been in SAS...

[cave weta]

Go find that guy 'Horse' who was in those crap reality TV shows a couple of years ago.. wasnt he ex SAS? or was it the Sallies.....

[98tls]

I work with a lady whos son is/has been for years SAS,all i can really say is that it seems to pay well.

[Usarka]

I've heard they kill you for even asking about them. Check the doors locked tonight wbks - not that it'd do any good....... :killingme

[cs363]

Go find that guy 'Horse' who was in those crap reality TV shows a couple of years ago.. wasnt he ex SAS? or was it the Sallies.....

More likely the latter I think! :)

He's down my way, but if he was ex-SAS I'd imagine from the way he comes across that he's probably been exposed to some sort of biological agent....

Maybe not the best source of info!! :rofl:

[short-circuit]

The odd person I've heard talking about 'being in the SAS' or similar usually turns out to be a blow arse.

Just my 2c :)

A la Ross Kemp (Extras)

[Pussy]

Go find that guy 'Horse' who was in those crap reality TV shows a couple of years ago.. wasnt he ex SAS? or was it the Sallies.....

You never hear much about the Salvation Navy or Salvation Air Force, either....

[Pedrostt500]

ya thinking of Joining wbks

[cs363]

The Salvation Air Force

Aren't they a bunch of failed ag pilots? :whistle:

[wbks]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet

[Usarka]

You never hear much about the Salvation Navy or Salvation Air Force, either....

Quite a lot about the salvation terminator at the moment though

[Pussy]

Aren't they a bunch of failed ag pilots? :whistle:
It is NOT that difficult for me to find out where you live, or for that matter to find a hopper-full of something unsavoury from under a shearing shed.... which could VERY easily end up on your roof/person/section etc

With me?

[BMWST?]

...things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"...
perhaps you should have asked THAT question at the start....are we supposed to be psychic ?.All I know is the "selection course" is enough to weed out most applicants.

[cave weta]

More likely the latter I think! :)

He's down my way, but if he was ex-SAS I'd imagine from the way he comes across that he's probably been exposed to some sort of biological agent....

Maybe not the best source of info!! :rofl:

I saw him at WOMAD dancing with the hippy chicks- tra la la la.la..

[cs363]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet

Best to be asking down at the local Army recruiting office, but I do know you have to be a member of the Defence Force (or reserve) for at least 2 or 3 years before you can apply. I don't think it matters what rank or role you are prior.

[cs363]

It is NOT that difficult for me to find out where you live, or for that matter to find a hopper-full of something unsavoury from under a shearing shed.... which could VERY easily end up on your roof/person/section etc

With me?


You know where I live (bloody sad that Alzheimers...) though with your navigational skills I think I'm ok.... :bleh: :D

[been_there]

There was a doco on the SAS requirements and some of their exercises...
The 50 recuits where hand picked and only 6 passed at the end.
The first day had huge amount of casulty's....TV3 showed this.

[cs363]

I saw him at WOMAD dancing with the hippy chicks- tra la la la.la..

You were SUPPOSED to be working.....not perving!!! :rofl:

(yeah i know....as if!!)

[cs363]

All I know is the "selection course" is enough to weed out most applicants.

And that is an understatement! :)

[wbks]

perhaps you should have asked THAT question at the start....are we supposed to be psychic ?.No, but I didn't want to ask anything specific unless I was going to get a proper answer, which is why I was waiting


Best to be asking down at the local Army recruiting office, but I do know you have to be a member of the Defence Force (or reserve) for at least 2 or 3 years before you can apply. I don't think it matters what rank or role you are prior.Yea, already read all this, but i could understand if certain careers would see you better suited to the selection or if there is no huge difference etc.


There was a doco on the SAS requirements and some of their exercises...
The 50 recuits where hand picked and only 6 passed at the end.
The first day had huge amount of casulty's....TV3 showed this.
Like I said; people that haven't read something or seen something on TV, I've pretty much looked into everything possible on the net or on tv without actually asking an informed person (which I have done and am waiting for a reply *not this thread*)

I don't need to hear how demanding it is, I've seen and read as much as any of you by the sounds of it

[cs363]

Yea, already read all this, but i could understand if certain careers would see you better suited to the selection or if there is no huge difference etc.

Sorry, probably could have worded that better, but my understanding is that when you apply everyone is treated as equals, so no real advantage in being an officer as far as fast tracking or anything like that. I'm also fairly certain that it doesn't matter what branch of the Defence Force you belong to either so you can get your grounding in whatever branch appeals (Army , Navy or Air Force). Given the extremely tough selection process and the high likelihood of not qualifying I think that whilst your ultimate goal may be to join the SAS you should aim for something you want to do at a lower level just in case you don't make it through the selection process.

You haven't said if you have actually talked to the Army (or Navy/Air Force) recruiters, if you haven't I think you really should be talking to them.

[Mumbles]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet Its hard work, rewards are personal, and can stress out your family life. If you have a goal like you say talk to the Army directly.... Oh and learn your morse code, a very under rated and need skill.

[wbks]

Sorry, probably could have worded that better, but my understanding is that when you apply everyone is treated as equals, so no real advantage in being an officer as far as fast tracking or anything like that. I'm also fairly certain that it doesn't matter what branch of the Defence Force you belong to either so you can get your grounding in whatever branch appeals (Army , Navy or Air Force). Given the extremely tough selection process and the high likelihood of not qualifying I think that whilst your ultimate goal may be to join the SAS you should aim for something you want to do at a lower level just in case you don't make it through the selection process.

You havn't said if you have actually talked to the Army (or Navy/Air Force) recruiters, if you haven't I think you really should be talking to them.Yes, a backup plan is good, but I am wondering if it would be at the expense of being lesser equipped for selection if you were to join as an engineer for example, rather than a rifleman which may or may not (which I would like to know) leave you more capable with the physical side of things that might suit selection better. And I have tried to get in touch with the army, and I'm waiting for a reply at the moment. I just thought I'd ask here to see if anyone from the army might be able to give a little advice... Obviously a little naive of me

[wbks]

Its hard work, rewards are personal, and can stress out your family life. If you have a goal like you say talk to the Army directly.... Oh and learn your morse code, a very under rated and need skill.
Thanks

10chr

[allycatz]

Dont ever date one...they are trained professional liars and can talk their way outta anything....seriously tho, not good for married life, on call and away at the drop of a hat to who knows where. Best for the single guy

[Number One]

Not sure what kind of info you are after, but I have an acquaintance who was a former member and getting any info out of him about it and his experiences is pretty much like the preverbial getting blood out of a stone scenario!
From what I've gathered over the years they are probably trained to keep a low profile publicly and most likely sign some sort of secrecy agreement. The odd person I've heard talking about 'being in the SAS' or similar usually turns out to be a blow arse.

Just my 2c :)
Yip - what he said. I also know someone who was in and there is no way you can get info out of them...seriously asking on KB :lol: :rofl:

read a book there are a few written by ex SAS guys that wanted to make a quick buck

[wbks]

Best for the single guyhah, that won't be a problem for me:sleep:

[cs363]

Yes, a backup plan is good, but I am wondering if it would be at the expense of being lesser equipped for selection if you were to join as an engineer for example, rather than a rifleman which may or may not (which I would like to know) leave you more capable with the physical side of things that might suit selection better. And I have tried to get in touch with the army, and I'm waiting for a reply at the moment. I just thought I'd ask here to see if anyone from the army might be able to give a little advice... Obviously a little naive of me

Like I said I really don't think it makes a difference, you could apply for selection as an army cook (probably!) - as long as you make the selection criteria you're in. I'd imagine having a rank wouldn't hurt once your actually in though.


Obviously a little naive of me

Hey, you never know - every now and then you get a sensible answer on KB! :D

[98tls]

Fwiw i can ask the lady i work with how her son went about it though as i posted hes been in a fair while,shes looking forward to him returning home for good soon.

[wbks]

Yip - what he said. I also know someone who was in and there is no way you can get info out of them...seriously asking on KB :lol: :rofl:

read a book there are a few written by ex SAS guys that wanted to make a quick buckI don't mean to sound like an asshat here (although I am), but don't misunderstand my questions (which I think after 2 pages I've made clear), and then laugh at it. If you look, I wasn't asking for an answer from an ex or current sas, just for advice from someone who has a clue from a military background who would obviously know more about differences in army careers than me or most other people


Like I said I really don't think it makes a difference, you could apply for selection as an army cook (probably!) - as long as you make the selection criteria you're in. I'd imagine having a rank wouldn't hurt once your actually in though. Yea I see what you're saying, but will you be better trained to meet that criteria in certain different careers or is the training not hugely different between them? Thats what I'm trying to ask

[Pedrostt500]

They flunked my brother out years ago, right at the end, they didn't give him a reason, though he suspected it was because he was a student whilst doing the teratorials, My understanding is they dont require you to have specific skills per say, as they can train their own people to cover any task.
they knock out the unfit and those with poor mental stamina fairly quickly.
I understand that the NZ SAS is very highly regarded world wide particurly for jungle skills.

[wbks]

Fwiw i can ask the lady i work with how her son went about it though as i posted hes been in a fair while,shes looking forward to him returning home for good soon.I would be EXTREMELY grateful. Like I said, I'm not after details, just what way is best to go about it from someone who would know!

[wbks]

They flunked my brother out years ago, right at the end, they didn't give him a reason, though he suspected it was because he was a student whilst doing the teratorials, My understanding is they dont require you to have specific skills per say, as they can train their own people to cover any task.
they knock out the unfit and those with poor mental stamina fairly quickly.
I understand that the NZ SAS is very highly regarded world wide particurly for jungle skills.What is the problem with being a student when doing the territorials? Not planning on the territorials, just wondering?

[98tls]

I would be EXTREMELY grateful. Like I said, I'm not after details, just what way is best to go about it from someone who would know! That i will do,i will be seeing her on Friday,not sure how much she can/will tell me but theres no harm in asking eh,nice lady so im sure she will tell me whatever she can,no idea how it all works but hes been based in England for awhile,met him a couple of years ago when he was home for a visit.

[cs363]

Yea I see what you're saying, but will you be better trained to meet that criteria in certain different careers or is the training not hugely different between them? Thats what I'm trying to ask

Unless it's changed big time, whatever role you choose there will be basic training encompassing the needed skills, even for a cook n bottle washer!
My understanding is that if for instance you wanted to be an explosives expert or a sniper etc, you could pursue that skill path within the SAS once you have qualified. That's assuming you would want to try and apply after the minimum qualifying period with your choice of service.
However, if you wanted to be a member of your chosen service for some time prior to joining the SAS then it would pay to go down your chosen route like engineer or whatever.

[allycatz]

My good friend on leave from the SAS started in the Air force and later moved over to the army... after over 10 years ordinary service...he was combat trainer and joined SAS as sniper....training course is a killer including carrying fully laden fellow soldier and packs over very long distance ...being tied up and treated as a prisoner of war etc etc....my mate loved it but lost several good mates along the way...hes now doing consultancy work for the Colombian army

[Pedrostt500]

There is no great problem with being a student while doing the terries, but you will find the Regular army will trat them with some attitude,
There was somthing else I was going to say as well, map reading skills and compas work, get very good at it.

[Bow-Down]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet

If your planning on being SAS then your chances if you're a officer are a lot higher than a rifleman. I'm going to be doing the Kippenberger Scheme which is for officers after I finish Cambridge A2 exams. You get your uni fees, accommodation, food, car (motorbike) all paid for plus a salary while you complete the course.
But don't plan on staying in the nz army long term.

[Mom]

Jesus fucking christ,

You may want to work on your sense of humour before considering applying for a placement in the SAS.

Go and ask the Army recruiters, they will at least give you a bit more insight into what you need to know.

Asking KB members this was opening yourelf up for a razz.

Good luck mate!

[wbks]

I have a sense of humour, just not so much on a bad day. Yes I will be talking to them some time soon

[cowpoos]

It is NOT that difficult for me to find out where you live, or for that matter to find a hopper-full of something unsavoury from under a shearing shed.... which could VERY easily end up on your roof/person/section etc

With me?
offal pit!!!!!!!!!

[cs363]

offal pit!!!!!!!!!

Don't encourage him.... :nono: :)

Anyway, once he finds what I've been slipping in all the free coffee's he gets at work...... :dodge: :lol:

[marty]

a close associate of mine did selection - he was a police officer (never been in the DF) and got through to the E & E when he failed. not sure of the reasons why he failed, but there was certainly no questions about his physical fitness, search and rescue/bush skills or shooting ability - he never said anything about the process except for the above.

[marty]

and on the flip side, another associate has recently done HALO training somewhere in the world - he's a normal looking dude who rides an old school gixxer when he's home. he was in the NZSAS, but i believe he is on secondment to the UKSAS at the moment. he doesn't really say too much, and we just get together for golf and fishing when he's home. i don't ask, he doesn't tell.

[Lula]

Just what the title says. Anyone here know much about them? And by that I don't just mean "has read/heard stuff about them"

Dude start running if you're looking to join the SAS you need to take plenty of 'harden the fuck-up pills'. I could introduce you to Willy.:shifty:

[Hitcher]

I bet that the SAS doesn't wave back.

[98tls]

I bet that the SAS doesn't wave back. Bet they dont ride anything with "shiver" all over it either.:apint:

[awayatc]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet


SAS does only "borow" officers from other regiments......



who cares who wins......

[FJRider]

I am wondering if it would be at the expense of being lesser equipped for selection if you were to join as an engineer for example, rather than a rifleman which may or may not (which I would like to know) leave you more capable with the physical side of things that might suit selection better. And I have tried to get in touch with the army, and I'm waiting for a reply at the moment. I just thought I'd ask here to see if anyone from the army might be able to give a little advice... Obviously a little naive of me

It is not possible to join the SAS directly as you join the army. You must do basic training, then trade training in the unit of your chosen corps. SAS selection courses are run on an irregular basis. You apply to be on one of those courses. Even if you complete that course, it does not mean you can join the SAS.

It is invitation only.

Soldiers of all trades are required in the SAS so no particular trade has preference in recruitement. Anything else they think you need to know ... they will teach you. A high fitness level is required/important, but its not the only prerequisite. Attitude, stamina, and mental soundness, are also high on the list.
Beware ... recruiters will tell you lots of bull ... to get you to sign the dotted line.

[wbks]

I could introduce you to Willy.:shifty:wot?
10chr

[SARGE]

You never hear much about the Salvation Navy or Salvation Air Force, either....

much like NZ really

[Lula]

A high fitness level, attitude, stamina, and mental soundness, are also high on the list.

Jeepers, how do I meet one of those?!:eek:

[Chisanga]

I wouls suggest joining the territorials to see if you enjoy the lifestyle... no problem being a student... at least not when I was involved.... a couple of guys in my unit tried out for SAS whilst I was there... I don't recall them getting in but they giot respect just for going on selection.

From what I know (and I know only a little) they are a totally different breed of human and it requires a 100 percent commitment in everything you do ... you have to be totally sure you want to do it, supremely fit, mentally flexible and I think a little bit lucky as well. It's not the fun and games it can appear to be in the movies.

Some SAS/SBS troops spent 3 months living in a hole in the ground prior to the British invading the Falklands.

IF you don't mind putting your shit in a plastic bag and carrying it around with you for weeks then maybe you could consider it.

P.S. Any army trade can apply to join... I believe they expect more from those coming from the combat arms as far as weapons skills etc. but they will give you the training you need if you pass selection and enter the training phase (where you can still fail and be RTU (Returned to Unit)

[MsKABC]

I met one once and he was the sexiest man I've ever met, bar none! Tall, dark, handsome, broad, strong & silent type, modest, and you just knew he could kill someone with his bare hands if necessary.

But probably not the kind of info you're after, I'm guessin'? :lol:

I actually used to teach this guy's niece, and her dad was in the SAS too. It doesn't sound like she had much of a relationship with him as a result.

[Quasievil]

mmm what do I know about the SAS,

Well I know that if you throw pine cones at them in woodhill forest they will give you a hiding.

I know that they are fitter than me and can run faster than me.

I know that if you tell them to fuck off they will give you another hiding

I know that they dont like eating with new recruits

[Swoop]

They recruit from all areas. Get into an area that will allow you to do extra training and preparation for selection.

mmm what do I know about the SAS,

I know that if you tell them to fuck off they will give you another hiding
Also, if "someone" wants some hostage "volunteers" for CT entry practice, stay the fuck well away.:scooter:

[Pussy]

wot?
10chr

Willy Apiata, me thinks

[Skyryder]

There's a few of them in SIS. Now if I'm off line for a week or two ya know what's happened.


Incedently any Callan fans on here??


Skyryder

[wbks]

I'm just wondering if when the guy on the selection in the "best among equals" say's "once they're gone they never come back" (or something along those lines), if that is because you only get one shot, or if it's because they don't want to?

[FJRider]

yes to both

[Skyryder]

The Brits get two shots at selection............well they use to unless it's been changed.

[wbks]

I'm just thinking how gutting it would be to get super fit, super good with all skills needed, and get dropped for no apparant reason that you can pick out? It's kind of like not knowing what you actually need to do? Are they after mentally weak people to pick out or people that aren't determined or what? Ofcourse I won't get any definitive answers here, I'm just venting I guess. Seems like even if you are a hell of a marksman, at a triathlete level physically, have everything at the right level navigation/tracking wise, everything else, still determined to get there you aren't likely to get there. Pretty much all it says on army.mil is get motivated, fit physically and mentally and get it done "if you want it enough" etc but there must be more than that.

[paulmac]

[Soldiers of all trades are required in the SAS so no particular trade has preference in recruitement. Anything else they think you need to know ... they will teach you. A high fitness level is required/important, but its not the only prerequisite. Attitude, stamina, and mental soundness, are also high on the list.
Beware ... recruiters will tell you lots of bull ... to get you to sign the dotted line.[/QUOTE]

What he said, also being an officer can be a negative when applying for Squadron. Ruperts aren't that well regarded !!
Join an infantry regiment first. After a couple of years you'll have all the answers you need. Get fit, take a HTFU pill and learn how to drink !!

[doc]

Jesus fucking christ, it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet

There is no such thing as superman. They are normal people who have a high standard motivation and don't give up. Once you measure up, you get the training that will develop the talents they recognise you have. It's all about mental toughness which is in the top 6 inches. It's about ones ability to function above the rest when your at your lowest and still perform. Cheesy as it sounds its a team player who can work as an individual. The highly strung racehorse types don't make it.

You will never kinow if you have what it takes till you front up to be tested.

P.S. If you want people to know you have made it .Dont try it. Its not what they want

[fatzx10r]

"if you want it enough"

that's what it comes down to really.

[kave]

If I was trying to get into the SAS I would join the army as infantry with the aim of getting into one of the recce teams. I would plan on doing a few years in the army before even bothering to try out for the SAS. Thats just how I would go about it, but so long as you are hugely strong, fit and incredibly driven any path should be fine.

[Delerium]

okay then. here are some answers and corrections to misinformation.

to do selection yes you need to have served for several years. any trade any service.

Usually only one shot at selection but not always. injury for example means you may get a second go (read the autobiography about CPL Willie Apiata).

If you join as an enlisted rank you can apply for a comission later on. If you join as an officer you CAN NOT become an enlisted rank. ever. even if you leave and come back several years later. too bad.

In saying that officers and soldiers have different jobs so you need to do what you are suited for. I think officers do a bit more during selection than soldiers, but im not sure on this.

To succeed you need mental and physical strength. Plan to train for the year building up to doing selection. Map work and weapons skills are a must. You will only get through if you are one determined boy and bust your ass to get it. You can read about some of what is involved, but know that not all of it is published and for good reason.

What service and trade you do previously is up to you. You may choose to do a technical trade in order to set you up should you leave.

other than that, let us know what you decide and how it goes.

[MaxB]

The SAS has certain functions to fulfil and during selection they are looking for soldiers to mould into what they need.

Often the recruits themselves don't know whether they have got 'the right stuff' until they go through the course since they will never have experienced something so traumatic.

So whether you pass or fail you will find out heaps about yourself in the process. If I was in your shoes I wouldn't join up just to try for the SAS I would want to build a career in the forces first.

[Hoon]

If I was trying to get into the SAS I would join the army as infantry with the aim of getting into one of the recce teams. I would plan on doing a few years in the army before even bothering to try out for the SAS. Thats just how I would go about it, but so long as you are hugely strong, fit and incredibly driven any path should be fine.

Best advice so far. Join the Army as a rifleman either TF or RF. You need solid infantry skills before you will even get nominated for pre-selection. You also need to be a competent soldier otherwise your application won't even make it past the OC's desk. The best infantry soldiers end up in recon platoon of whom a majority are SAS selection aspirees or washouts. Recon also perform a lot of the green role tasks that SAS do so you'll get a taste of it. Engineers is another option - they are superfit for some reason and do well too.

Joining as TF or RF both have their pros and cons. If I was dead serious I'd join as RF to get the most training and then change to TF leading up to selection so I could fully focus on preparing for it. All going well you could be ready for selection in 2-3 years.

A lot of my mates have failed selection, most of them top soldiers in their prime. Others have made it through when I wouldn't have even given them an outside chance. Of those that had the fitness and endurance, Nav was their undoing.

[paulmac]

Go regular force. don't fuck around with the TF, you won't get the training required !!

[Swoop]

and get dropped for no apparant reason that you can pick out?
The Psych. people did a study some time ago. They sat all the applicants down and "had a chat", then deduced who would succeed Selection.
When the dust had settled, they were right.
There is more to the mental and "attitude" side of the process, than just physical fitness.

[Finn]

Lets hope National increase our defense budget and properly fund the SAS as currently they are way under funded. Under Labour, they were sent to Afghanistan in their undies. Embarrassing.

Also, we don't look after them when they retire. Most of them go offshore and work in consulting because of this.

[saltydog]

Had this fella visit my uncles farm many a moon ago (old mate or something). He was ex-weapons specialist from the UK version of the SAS.
So it was decided we would venture out to the back paddocks and bowl some geese over with a open sight 22. Old gun.
He took one shot a a fence post back at the house, maybe 70-80m away. walked up and checked out the hole.
We arrive in the back paddock, heaps of geese, he lays down takes aim from about the same distance, if not more, and with one shot takes out a goose with a shot to the head.
Ok, said Uncle. Wow said boy.

[DougieNZ]

Yep, these guys are the best of the best.. the elite...

And that's why not many make it. Less than 10% usually pass selection. I cna remember seeing the signal that is dispatched to all units "inviting" people of all forces to apply for selection.

There is a good DVD out which you can buy at http://www.gpstore.co.nz

This shows part of selection - but only part!

The SAS also have a specialist CT team now that specialises in CT (counter terrorist) work. They pass a lesser form of selection and are engaged fixed term.


If I was interested in joining I would join the regular force Army and get as much fitness and nav training in as I possibly could..

[Laxi]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS

mate if your going to join the army without even knowing whether you want to be a grunt or brass yet alone what corp (never mind the fact that s.a.s are made up from the 3 forces) and making that decission on what will get you into the s.a.s, then no offence but you will probably never make selection yet alone pass grading, dont think you've put much thought into this, you do realise they wont even let you apply for the s.a.s until youve been sighned up for 6 years?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I've often thought that in another life I would like to make a lot of money then recruit ex-SAS guys for my private elite CFU (Counter-fuckwit Unit) of the SPCA: I could then pay people to get medieval on people who are cruel to animals.

Sadly, it will have to wait till I am reincarnated because the "make a lot of money" part got all fucked up in this life.

Still, a boy can dream, can't he?

[Laxi]

I've often thought that in another life I would like to make a lot of money then recruit ex-SAS guys for my private elite CFU (Counter-fuckwit Unit) of the SPCA: I could then pay people to get medieval on people who are cruel to animals.


kind of like blackwater (sorry, Xe as they call themselves now) for animals rights? have you seen what these guys get up to? the're more likely to be the guys doing the animal cruelty

[slydesigns]

If you really WANT to be in the SAS your not the guy they want. You wont pass the psych test. If you cant decide between RF NCO or Officer as your career path you REALLY aren't ready to be thinking about SAS.

An Officer is a manager, he or she mostly - not always - but mostly directs and never actually gets the HANDS ON knowledge and experience with the units equipment whether it be support weapons, working with a field kitchen or over hauling a LAV engine in the workshops.

The OR's are the "hands on" workers that get intimate with thier kit. So if you cant decide how you wish to work in life and choose the Officer/OR path, then how do you know you'd like to be dropped into the middle of no where at oh-dark hundred on a rainy windy night with little info, no direct support, a shit load of gear and a clock thats been running down for a few hours already to do a job thats either boring as sin observation work or possibly messy as hell and not for the dinner table conversation?

They dont take heros, they dont take loners, they dont take the most popular or the fittest sportmad person the army has. They take the ones who are quiet achievers, focused, driven, intelligent, self sufficient etc.

I was in the Army IEDD team and that was hard enough to get into and, more importantly, maintain the required standards to stay in. And those tests were NOTHING even remotely close to SAS selection. CTAG is a little easier but its like claiming being dragged over a bed of nails behind a car is easier to being dragged over a bed of hypodermic needles...

Join the Army... survive basic training.
From their, survive corp training.
From there survive your first year at your unit.
From their, survive your trade/corp band training.
From there survive the JNCO's cse.
From there... perhaps, if your doing everything mostly right fopr the last 3 or 4 years, get promoted to your first stripe and THEN after trying it on for size for a year of 2 look at training for selection... not applying, just training to see if it will kill you or not. If it doesn't, talk to your unit commander and RSM and arrange to see the psych, then you'll know if you should step up to the line or not.

[NighthawkNZ]

Yah could buy the book... http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/5570669/history-nzsas-published/

[Manxman]

If your planning on being SAS then your chances if you're a officer are a lot higher than a rifleman. I'm going to be doing the Kippenberger Scheme which is for officers after I finish Cambridge A2 exams. You get your uni fees, accommodation, food, car (motorbike) all paid for plus a salary while you complete the course.
But don't plan on staying in the nz army long term.

Why not? Good career isn't it?

[Fatt Max]

I was in the scouts......I went on the SAS selection course and did really well, I got down to the last 450,000.

It appears that they are not looking for people who can tie knots, get things out of horses hooves and able to help elderly ladies across the road.

The bastards didnt even like my volcano project

:weep:

[Solly]

Jesus fucking christ, ...........

Temper, temper........now that's just what the SAS are looking for...[insert Tui advertisment here]

[Boob Johnson]

Go find that guy 'Horse' who was in those crap reality TV shows a couple of years ago.. wasnt he ex SAS? or was it the Sallies.....
Ha ha, na John is for real. A family friend of ours from way back. He used to come round our house after being away on missions when I was a kid. Mum used to calm him down. He would never say anything of what had gone down but was clearly "moved", shall we say...."the thousand yard steer" :shit:

I remember seeing a photo he sent us, they were on a training mission on a mountain side somewhere, they had parachuted onto a snow laden slope with M60 style machine guns in hand, very very cool pic.

As for info on the SAS, good luck finding any, you'll need it.

[scumdog]

shall we say...."the thousand yard steer" :shit:

Is that something like "the fifty yard cow"??

[FJRider]

Is that something like "the fifty yard cow"??

trying to milk it ... ??? :eek:

[Boob Johnson]

Is that something like "the fifty yard cow"??
lol was thinking if that was the correct spelling but couldn't be arsed to check :bleh:



trying to milk it ... ??? :eek:
Aren't you just lol :laugh:

[birdhandler]

you may remember he was the SAS corporal who was awareded the VC a fewyears ago. Lots of info there
Good luck

[boomer]

Best advice so far. Join the Army as a rifleman either TF or RF. You need solid infantry skills before you will even get nominated for pre-selection. You also need to be a competent soldier otherwise your application won't even make it past the OC's desk. The best infantry soldiers end up in recon platoon of whom a majority are SAS selection aspirees or washouts. Recon also perform a lot of the green role tasks that SAS do so you'll get a taste of it. Engineers is another option - they are superfit for some reason and do well too.

Joining as TF or RF both have their pros and cons. If I was dead serious I'd join as RF to get the most training and then change to TF leading up to selection so I could fully focus on preparing for it. All going well you could be ready for selection in 2-3 years.

A lot of my mates have failed selection, most of them top soldiers in their prime. Others have made it through when I wouldn't have even given them an outside chance. Of those that had the fitness and endurance, Nav was their undoing.

I was a sapper back in the 90's; thread is hilarious...

[Mumbles]

Dont ask how, but i came accross one of these by chance and it has some answers to your questions from the army news
I found a link to the mag here http://army.mil.nz/at-a-glance/news/army-news/397/default.htm hope its some help
Look up
The edge of endurance, and Dare to challenge should be a real help
:niceone:

[Headbanger]

This thread remind me of the time I spent in the army.

Well, Not in the army as such.

Sort of on any Army base,

Where I was wandering around taking photo's.

Bully-boys acted all staunch when they came tearing over and wanted to know who the hell I was and what the hell I was doing.:Police:

FFS, if they didn't want people wandering in they should have shut the damn gate.

[cs363]

This thread remind me of the time I spent in the army.

Well, Not in the army as such.


Band camp? :lol:






Couldn't resist!

[NZ CBR]

Jesus fucking christ, I wasn't asking about current deployment details, I was asking if anyone knows anything about it. I was going to ask things along the lines of "would you be better off being a rifleman or an officer if you were to join the army with the goal of getting into the SAS"... Things along those lines, even just from someone who is maybe just in touch with how things go in the army. But yes, I can't see any harm in a helpfull "go *this way* or *that way*", so maybe they would post it as it's a lot less than what has been screened on TV and shown on the internet

If you were thinking of joining any armed forces, try it out..then think about sas if your still keen. its a huge feet to even try out, not for everyone. you may not even like being a rifleman. if you have more Q's about it pm me.

[Macontour]

A lot of the recent more detailed advice is pretty good. Join the RF, preferably Infantry, spend a few years honing your skills, especially Nav and weapons and then apply. The Pre-selection and Selection courses are well adverised Services wide(Army News for example). Put your App in and wait.

Of course it is tough, it needs to be but the Trainers and Psychs are looking at mental toughness, drive and attitude probably more so than physical skills. Physical skills can be taught, attitude is differenA number of my mates have tried and not got past the Selection phase, guys who I would have thought would be well suited but let down by Nav or something else.

Ensure that you have valid reasons for even considering it, not just so you have bragging rights in the pub, it doesn't work that way.

Onward!!

[awayatc]

huge feet to even try out

Get huge boots then I would say.....

Tensjun!!!!!



at ease

[Pixie]

I could tell you ... but then I would have to kill you...

It is very rear that some in SAS will tell you they are in SAS or have been in SAS...

very rear????!!!!!
Are they sodomites or something?

[Pixie]

If you were thinking of joining any armed forces, try it out..then think about sas if your still keen. its a huge feet to even try out, not for everyone. you may not even like being a rifleman. if you have more Q's about it pm me.

its a huge feet

Should be foot:stupid: