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[Magua]

A plea for help. My bike will not work, I have another thread in sports bike tweaking. If anyone could possibly take a look at it for me, it would be much appreciated as I have no idea where to go from here and have no way of transporting the bike to a dealership for someone to look at it. ANY help at all appreciated.

[oldfart]

Well I had look at the thread & unfortunately it seems you are well past the point of looking at what you f*^#ked with last.
Your original statement was that you were having problems after you had charged the battery. Yes?, well does this mean it was running ok before. If it was, did you remove the battery to charge it & if so what did you have to remove etc & reinstall to achieve this. As the others have been referring to, it sounds like the bike is running very rich, ie not enough air is getting to the carbs. If you remove the battery, or were working around this area have you inadvertantly block the air box intake or something similar?

[Magua]

I didn't not have to remove anything to get at the battery, bar the seat. I've tried running it without the air filter and airbox, didn't help. I've got one more thing to try tommorow before, so ignore this cry for help until I post back here tommorow night, HOPEFULLY with good news.

[oldfart]

ok, but the question is, did it run ok before you charged the battery

[Magua]

ok, but the question is, did it run ok before you charged the battery

It hadn't been running for a while as I had the carbs off. Before that it ran.

[Magua]

Oh by the way, wellcome to the site oldfart.

[inlinefour]

It hadn't been running for a while as I had the carbs off. Before that it ran.

Please explain why you had the carbs off the bike and why you dont think that that could be the source of the problem? Sounds like someone has been playing with a bike that really should have not and now is rather uptight because as a result it does not go. I suggest take it to a dealer, push it if you have to and never play with things you know nothing about again...

[oldfart]

Well, Honda has a point. The questions would be,
1. what did you do to the carbs
2. why did you pull them off in the 1st place
3. do you know much about carbs etc.

[Magua]

I took them off, didn't do anything to them. Replaced the seals between the carbs and the cylinders, put the carbs back on. I did this with help from Frankie as I don't know anything mechanical. But I seem to have missed a step, like gasket glue....I know this is in the other thread. Seems I just forgot :Oops: :o feel free to delete this thread until I've done something about the glue. :o

[oldfart]

Mate, this all sounds very sad & I don't think your looking at any quick fix. This could be anything of upteen simple things you & your mate got wrong, or it could simply be crap in the carbs from sitting to long, or sticking float pilot valves etc etc.
Do you know anyone who has some mechanical expertise who can look at it for you. If not, you may be best to turn it over to a shop, yeah I know money

[Magua]

I'll try the gasket glue tommorow, arg can't believe I forgot that even when it was pointed out to me :o . If that doesn't work then I'll trailer the bike bike to barry's point when I get the chance.

[Teflon]

Please explain why you had the carbs off the bike and why you dont think that that could be the source of the problem? Sounds like someone has been playing with a bike that really should have not and now is rather uptight because as a result it does not go. I suggest take it to a dealer, push it if you have to and never play with things you know nothing about again...

Good on him for trying to fix his bike, he might not be in a financial position to pay a mechanic, plus this is how you learn.

[inlinefour]

Good on him for trying to fix his bike, he might not be in a financial position to pay a mechanic, plus this is how you learn.

There is less on them to do and fix and yes they are a good way to learn. But I started working on a single four stroke. Had I started working on inline fours at the age of eigth, then I'm sure poor old Pop would have become very farked off with all the screw ups I made. Gotta crawl before you can learn to walk.

[Indiana_Jones]

I'm helping our poor bikeless friend, it's a great learning experiance for us, lol plus the bike is on it's last legs anyway :2thumbsup

-Indy

[Magua]

last legs, what!? It's full of life :2thumbsup .

[inlinefour]

I'm helping our poor bikeless friend, it's a great learning experiance for us, lol plus the bike is on it's last legs anyway :2thumbsup

-Indy

Pray tell, is there things your not telling?

[Magua]

He means the bike is a piece of shit. It's been crashed numerous times in it's life. As one can tell from previous marks, miss matching fairing colours, scratched covers, broken fairings. I low sided it myself in gravel and it stopped working as the plugs had fouled.

[Teflon]

http://www.haynes.com/

These manuals are excellent. Makes troubleshooting so much easier.

[inlinefour]

He means the bike is a piece of shit. It's been crashed numerous times in it's life. As one can tell from previous marks, miss matching fairing colours, scratched covers, broken fairings. I low sided it myself in gravel and it stopped working as the plugs had fouled.

Sounds like either the rings are nackered (will blow smoke) or the bike is not tuned correctly. I've had a few bikes like that in my time and they generally let you know when they want to die (like splattered pistons). You say there is no spark? If so you need to start there.

[Indiana_Jones]

I say we put her down and donate her body for science, thus new bikers can learn about this interesting spieces of road transport :niceone:

-Indy

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Good on you for having a go. :yeah: :yeah: It is the only way to learn. It would help if you had someone that had some knowledge and good tools but this will lead you to doing your own work. As I live in Hawkes Bay I can not help but if you phone a bike shop they will probably pick the bike up for you. A friend of mine had to get his Gixxer to the shop here and they picked it up and charged .70 cents a km. Cheep when you do not have a trailer or ute. Call them and see. Get a manual for the bike and keep learning. This is frustrating for you but a good way to learn. :niceone:

[Ixion]

.. never play with things you know nothing about again...

:Playnice:

He's 18. Experimentation is part of the game. Bet there isn't a KBer who hasnt done the "wonder how that bit comes apart - oh , oops, bad idea" bit.

Besides playing with things you don't understand can be fun. Take women now. I don't understand women, never have, never will. But playing with them is *lots* of fun :p

[Storm]

Words of wisdom right there folks. Heed them well

[inlinefour]

:Playnice:

He's 18. Experimentation is part of the game. Bet there isn't a KBer who hasnt done the "wonder how that bit comes apart - oh , oops, bad idea" bit.

Besides playing with things you don't understand can be fun. Take women now. I don't understand women, never have, never will. But playing with them is *lots* of fun :p

I have allways had the workshop manual for each of the bikes I have/do own. As a younger rider I used to have no trouble pulling a bike apart, but yes I did have problems putting some of them back together. I was never helped to the point of someone else taking over, but given the advice needed and shown the right page of my manual. However each time that I needed help, full inspection was required along with a discussion on what I had done wrong and why. Sadly as I am not closer I cannot look at the bike myself. But the previous comment regarding getting a manual is very important and everyone should take heed to this, it will pay dividends and avoid doing things wrong (well hopefully).