R6 or Gsxr 600/750?

[LaytonNZ]

What are the good and bad points about both, i cant decide what i like more:( Anybody want to help me decide?:doh:

[Pussy]

What are the good and bad points about both, i cant decide what i like more:( Anybody want to help me decide?:doh:

Yep, get a GSX-R 750.... sorted!

[SixPackBack]

750 for the win. The most underated sportsbike on the market.

[Kendog]

Ditto 750.

[LaytonNZ]

What makes you say GSX-R? Whats makes them better then the R6?

[enigma51]

What makes you say GSX-R? Whats makes them better then the R6?

the 750 is the best all round bike

Nimble like a 600

but faster.

[Pussy]

the 750 is the best all round bike

Nimble like a 600

but faster.

And surprisingly comfortable

For me, my sem fiddy is the best bike I have ever owned

[SixPackBack]

R6 is far more track focused. Has a good top end, but fairly mundane mid range and low end. 750 has 600 handling with a healthy increase in power, particularly low and mid range power. Arguably the GSXR 600/750 is a far better road bike, more comfortable and better represented

[enigma51]

And surprisingly comfortable

For me, my sem fiddy is the best bike I have ever owned

if its comfortable your not going fast enough :chase:

[LaytonNZ]

R6 is far more track focused. Has a good top end, but fairly mundane mid range and low end. 750 has 600 handling with a healthy increase in power, particularly low and mid range power. Arguably the GSXR 600/750 is a far better road bike, more comfortable and better represented

Thank's, Thats the type of info i wanted:niceone:

[SixPackBack]

if its comfortable your not going fast enough :chase:

Dude. Anyone that can get both knees down at a stop sign is going to find your average sprotsbike cramped.
You should stick to your Goldwing :eek:

[Chooky]

Yea get the 750, its got a bit of "class" to it.
Long history in superbike...
Ask Frankie Chile....:niceone:

[LaytonNZ]

haha, Thanks Guys. Looking for a new bike after a lady pulled out infrunt of me and i t-boned her:doh:

[Pussy]

haha, Thanks Guys. Looking for a new bike after a lady pulled out infrunt of me and i t-boned her:doh:
At the moment a brand new K9 GSX-R750 is only 16k, and there are some good deals to be had in second hand K6-K7 750s.
The K4-K5 is a great bike, too

[jaymzw]

haha, Thanks Guys. Looking for a new bike after a lady pulled out infrunt of me and i t-boned her:doh:

Umm, how long you been riding? Just that your current bike is an 09 Ninja

GSXR600 imho but im a bit bias:bleh:

[Pussy]

Okey Dokey on KB has a VERY nice K5 750, hopefully she we chip in with her impressions

[Sidewinder]

r6 is a sack of shit, and only has power in the last few grand in the rev rang, and all yamaha riders are twats! cbr's are good tho!

[LaytonNZ]

Yeah, what about the CBR's? do they go well?

[hayd3n]

mmm twats!!!!!!

[Katman]

Did you learn anything from your accident?

If you didn't, I'd suggest another 250.

[Sidewinder]

Yeah, what about the CBR's? do they go well?

yea there a good all rounder. see theres so much out there! just go ride some or you may not end up with something you like. if you show the bike shop the cash they will let you take a bike for a test ride, they cant so no to money!

[Sidewinder]

jsut dont get mind set.

get the new rsv4r

[Sidewinder]

mmm twats!!!!!!

and here is one now!

[Insanity_rules]

I'm going to play devils advocate and say take a ride on a GSR600. I had a ball on one.

[Sidewinder]

I'm going to play devils advocate and say take a ride on a GSR600. I had a ball on one.

people say they like a bike and buy them with out riding them 1st! its just like waiting for sex till your married, gotta try before you buy dont ya, becasue you may end up with something you dont like!

[LaytonNZ]

Did you learn anything from your accident?

If you didn't, I'd suggest another 250.

May i ask how im ment to learn from a women pulling out infrunt of me?
:sleep:

[jaymzw]

Did you learn anything from your accident?

If you didn't, I'd suggest another 250.

I was hinting that way but he didnt say how long he'd been riding.


May i ask how im ment to learn from a women pulling out infrunt of me?
:sleep:

Dont worry, Katman will be here in a jiffy to tell you

[dipshit]

I'v just been through all this with a budget of 14K max. My shortlist was a 675, GSXR750 or GSXR600. Was leaning towards a second-hand low mileage 07 750... when i found a brand-new k8 600 for $13995.

I ruled out a R6 because they are more track orientated with most of their power up top and more hard edge ergonomics. I need a bike i can tour on reasonably comfortably and live with when trying to behave myself on state highways.

There are plenty of shootouts between the 600' on the web...

08
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2008-supersport-shootout-cbr600rr-vs-daytona-675-vs-zx6r-vs-r6-vs-gsxr600-82371.html

09
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2009-supersport-shootout-87967.html

If you can find a good deal on a 750 it would be hard to go wrong.!

P.S.. coming from a 250, a 600 will be plenty so keep your options open there too and just find the best deal you can.

[Sidewinder]

May i ask how im ment to learn from a women pulling out infrunt of me?
:sleep:

by dragging her out the car and kicking the shit out of her while shes on the ground yelling at her saying "you dumb fooking usless bitch!"

[LaytonNZ]

by dragging her out the car and kicking the shit out of her while shes on the ground yelling at her saying "you dumb fooking usless bitch!"

i shall try ur advice next time, then ill report back and tell you the outcome eh.

@Dipshit, Thanks.

[Katman]

May i ask how im ment to learn from a women pulling out infrunt of me?
:sleep:

Clearly, you haven't learned a thing.

[Insanity_rules]

people say they like a bike and buy them with out riding them 1st! its just like waiting for sex till your married, gotta try before you buy dont ya, becasue you may end up with something you dont like!

You speak wisdom. I rode 17 different bikes before I bought my SS. The GSR was in the final 2, the SS just had a bit more bad boy in it.

I'd say GSR with loud pipes would be damn horn. Good real world handling, nice and quick. It seemed like a good bike to live with.

[dipshit]

May i ask how im ment to learn from a women pulling out infrunt of me?

You got to develop a 6th sense for reading ahead and not just leaving your fate in the hands of lady luck.

[Grant`]

Gutted to hear about the accident Leyton, hope ya all good bud!

[Sidewinder]

You speak wisdom. I rode 17 different bikes before I bought my SS. The GSR was in the final 2, the SS just had a bit more bad boy in it.

I'd say GSR with loud pipes would be damn horn. Good real world handling, nice and quick. It seemed like a good bike to live with.

my mate has a gsr with leo vince cans and there fooking loud,rode it and the supension is a big down fall to the bike i say, they reckon it has more down low power, nah has less than my 600 and fells like they just cut the top end off to make the weak mid range feel strong

[Sidewinder]

i shall try ur advice next time, then ill report back and tell you the outcome eh.

@Dipshit, Thanks.

just dont ask for bail after!

[LaytonNZ]

I find myself being careful on the give way now haha..its a cunt of a give way its got a blind spot but it didnt matter seeings she didnt even stop nor look haha..useles bitch, shes geting changed for more things then i have fingers

[dipshit]

... didnt matter seeings she didnt even stop nor look haha..useles bitch, shes geting changed for more things then i have fingers

It doesn't matter a shit if someone else is to blame... there are plenty more like her out there. *You* got to make sure they can't get you.

Otherwise it will happen again.

[LaytonNZ]

It doesn't matter a shit if someone else is to blame... there are plenty more like her out there. *You* got to make sure they can't get you.

Otherwise it will happen again.
I Agree, thats so true..:msn-wink: iv'e learnt my lession Car's - Motorbikes dont mix! "Boooom":Police:

[Brett]

R6 is far more track focused. Has a good top end, but fairly mundane mid range and low end. 750 has 600 handling with a healthy increase in power, particularly low and mid range power. Arguably the GSXR 600/750 is a far better road bike, more comfortable and better represented

Having ridden both a lot, I think SPB has it on the money. I currently HAVE a GSXR 600, but the GSXR 750 is definitely a better bike.

[boomer]

Buy a thousand and stop being a pussy.. my thousand was far superior in EVERY way to a 600 or a 750... and i dont care what any one says about the weight, unless your racing it DOESNT matter!!!!


unless im given a 600/750 i wont ever go looking for one again, i'll always buy a litre ( albeit my current neddy is 10cc short and a vtwin)

[Pussy]

Buy a thousand and stop being a pussy.. my thousand was far superior in EVERY way to a 600 or a 750... and i dont care what any one says about the weight, unless your racing it DOESNT matter!!!!


unless im given a 600/750 i wont ever go looking for one again, i'll always buy a litre ( albeit my current neddy is 10cc short )

...except handling and it's alarming appetite for tyres! :bleh:

[boomer]

...except handling and it's alarming appetite for tyres! :bleh:


What i lost in tyres i gained in petrol and servicing costs :p The 600 works a lot harder for the kilometres...


as for handling, on the road and track my thousand was just as manageable as a 750 600... agreed if i were racing for a living and needed that nth of a second.. then yeah a 750 would be teh go... for us mere mortals...


buy the thou !!!!! makes ur willy look bigger too :niceone:

[LaytonNZ]

haha..What did you have before ur thou?....Doh...a smaller bike?:o

[boomer]

haha..What did you have before ur thou?....Doh...a smaller bike?:o

im saving u an additional purchase..! yes i had a homos bike before the thou.. we wont mention that tho.

ive ridden all the bikes u mention and i'd buy teh thou bro.. serious.

[LaytonNZ]

haha, and what thou would you suggest?

[boomer]

haha, and what thou would you suggest?


the new R! is teh Sexy !!111111!!!

the blade leaks oil and makes u a homo
i hate the kwakas
gixxers arent too bad
1198 would be nice
ktm im not too fussed about

[LaytonNZ]

eh..i dont like the body shape, its weird..i pefer the shape of the gixer or cbr

[boomer]

eh..i dont like the body shape, its weird..i pefer the shape of the gixer or cbr

buy the gixxer then.. the blade will make u a fag ( if ur not already !! )

[short-circuit]

A 3 cylinder 675 is the answer you seek

[LaytonNZ]

:doh: And what do you ride?

[LaytonNZ]

why a trumpet?:bleh:

[madbikeboy]

Okay. Here's how it is. I'm going assume that you're ready to actually make the jump to a larger displacement bike and that you're going to get help from a mentor so as not to end up as roadkill second time around.

GSXR600 - a good bike, I have one for the track (and a thou for the road), and I've owned a 750 as well. The 600 is an excellent bike, better in most everyway than an R6 - but the R6 has really nice build quality. The GSXR is a good all rounder, and it has more oomph down low where you actually ride all day.

The R6 is like a screaming chick - fun the first time, but you get sick of lots of noise with very little faster faster...

The 750 is the best of the lot - but I reckon it's too big a jump for you. The 600 is way plenty for the second step.

Boomer is full of piss and vinegar, the 1000 is actually the best street bike of the lot - but it's like a bitch mistress, it will eventually dump your sorry ass on the ground if you don't get it right everytime. It's also about 10 times more expensive to run and keep in horseshoes. Anyone who tells you it's not expensive is riding like a girl, and should be on a 600 anyhow. The 1000 is way more bike than you can imagine with your 250 as a frame of reference. If you buy one, get a will and a life insurance policy - you'll have use for both.

Buy the GSXR600 - get the newest one you can afford with the lowest miles. Seek out a mentor. Get track time.

[boomer]

Boomer is full of piss and vinegar, the 1000 is actually the best street bike of the lot - but it's like a bitch mistress, it will eventually dump your sorry ass on the ground if you don't get it right everytime. It's also about 10 times more expensive to run and keep in horseshoes. Anyone who tells you it's not expensive is riding like a girl, and should be on a 600 anyhow. The 1000 is way more bike than you can imagine with your 250 as a frame of reference. If you buy one, get a will and a life insurance policy - you'll have use for both.


What??!! :s

my thousand drank less than my 600. I used to ring the neck of the 600 to make it go, the 1000 ran along nicely on the torque.

As for tyres, i can rip a tyre up in under 2000k's on a 6 or a thousand.. im not fussy. But once you learn to be less ham fisted u realise you can get more life outta ya rubber than the squids do.... ( yes.. thats u ! telling me i ride like a girl.. ahahahahahahha )

A thousand can kill u but so can a 600... if your on a bike then respect is all thats needed.

buy a thousand mate.. dont listen to these dicks.

[chrispy121]

i have a gsxr 600 I had an r6 both god bikes but for me the adjustable foots pegs did it for me I can lower them 10mm to make the bike more comfortable this is my 3rd 600 next I am getting a 750 not that I can ride the wheels off the 600 by any means just because I would kiil myself on a thou

[DarkLord]

Yep, get a GSX-R 750.... sorted!

Agreed. Problem solved... you don't have to decide anymore :)

[LaytonNZ]

Okay. Thanks for the replys!:eek:

[SixPackBack]

.........Boomer is full of piss and vinegar, the 1000 is actually the best street bike of the lot - but it's like a bitch mistress, it will eventually dump your sorry ass on the ground if you don't get it right everytime. It's also about 10 times more expensive to run and keep in horseshoes. Anyone who tells you it's not expensive is riding like a girl, and should be on a 600 anyhow. The 1000 is way more bike than you can imagine with your 250 as a frame of reference. If you buy one, get a will and a life insurance policy - you'll have use for both...........

Getting wreckless with the truth there madbikeboy.
Owned two gsxr1000's now, the second is close to 70 thousand Kays.......you can easily conserve tyres with an application of skill and forethought. Neither of my bikes have thrown me, I have had no use for insurance or a will, and anyone who thinks a 600 is slow or somehow safer than a 1000 is dillusional.
The real advantage and inherent safety with a 1000 is using less revs and more torque.

[madbikeboy]

Getting wreckless with the truth there madbikeboy.
Owned two gsxr1000's now, the second is close to 70 thousand Kays.......you can easily conserve tyres with an application of skill and forethought. Neither of my bikes have thrown me, I have had no use for insurance or a will, and anyone who thinks a 600 is slow or somehow safer than a 1000 is dillusional.
The real advantage and inherent safety with a 1000 is using less revs and more torque.

Yeah, I've seen this movie a few times. A 600 is still plenty fast, but a thou has more. I've seen a few thrown on their sides by young guys now.

Okay, you got me there, skill and forethought. I ride thanks to Pops Yoshimura, it's like having Satan on both shoulders... Hence the tire life measure by a wristwatch instead of a calendar...

A well ridden 600 will easily keep up with a Squid on a thou on the street.

[madbikeboy]

What??!! :s

my thousand drank less than my 600. I used to ring the neck of the 600 to make it go, the 1000 ran along nicely on the torque.

As for tyres, i can rip a tyre up in under 2000k's on a 6 or a thousand.. im not fussy. But once you learn to be less ham fisted u realise you can get more life outta ya rubber than the squids do.... ( yes.. thats u ! telling me i ride like a girl.. ahahahahahahha )

A thousand can kill u but so can a 600... if your on a bike then respect is all thats needed.

buy a thousand mate.. dont listen to these dicks.

I have both a pint and a litre. The litre uses more of everything, ridden the same way. 1000cc's of swept combustion area versus 600cc's. Umm, let me think... Tires, more torque equals less life.

[jrandom]

I have both a pint and a litre. The litre uses more of everything, ridden the same way. 1000cc's of swept combustion area versus 600cc's. Umm, let me think...

Tuning makes all the difference. My 1400 just gained about 25% more fuel economy from a remap on the dyno at TripleZee after changing the muffler.

I think that a lot of the "my 600 used more gas than my 1000" carry-on is probably down to variations in tuning, rather than the engine displacement. I'd say it'd be rare to see a bike that was really well tuned. Most of them will be off somehow, wasting fuel due to some piece of noisy bling, etc.

So I suspect the whole argument is a bit pointless, and that it's all much of a muchness. Any given bike can vary enormously in its fuel economy from changes to breathing setup and silly shit like Power Commanders with maps downloaded from the interwebs.

[Blackshear]

Power Commanders with maps downloaded from the interwebs.

Would you download a motorbike, good sir?

[jrandom]

Would you download a motorbike, good sir?

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/global/entertainment/papercraft/realistic/yzf-r1-2007/index.html

[NZsarge]

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/global/entertainment/papercraft/realistic/yzf-r1-2007/index.html

Stink! It's not the new model...
Am I reading your posts correctly, are you saying that power commander's are'nt worth it?

[jrandom]

Am I reading your posts correctly, are you saying that power commander's are'nt worth it?

Not at all. Custom ECUs are usually necessary if you're going to do anything to a motor. (Although Suzukis since 2003 or so can have the fuelling remapped in the stock engine computer via one of those Teka Tune gizmos.)

I'm just dubious about the common practice of sitting at home and loading them with fuelling and ignition control data that may or may not have worked on some other bike on the other side of the world.

[NZsarge]

Not at all. Custom ECUs are usually necessary if you're going to do anything to a motor. (Although Suzukis since 2003 or so can have the fuelling remapped in the stock engine computer via one of those Teka Tune gizmos.)

I'm just dubious about the common practice of sitting at home and loading them with fuelling and ignition control data that may or may not have worked on some other bike on the other side of the world.

Yes, understood, fair call.

[Maki]

I got an R6 because I like the way it looks. I love it.

[Sidewinder]

I got an R6 because I like the way it looks. I love it.

and we have a winner!

[madbikeboy]

Not at all. Custom ECUs are usually necessary if you're going to do anything to a motor. (Although Suzukis since 2003 or so can have the fuelling remapped in the stock engine computer via one of those Teka Tune gizmos.)

I'm just dubious about the common practice of sitting at home and loading them with fuelling and ignition control data that may or may not have worked on some other bike on the other side of the world.

There's a lot of differences between devices as well. I've run the factory ECU remapped, Power Commander, and the Yoshi cube. I'm running a few logical mods including full system, cams etc - but ironically the most time has been spent working out the off idle / wooly low down response (after removing all the flapper valve stuff). After a bit of time, it's pretty good now. She fuels hungrier than a stocker, but even stock they're not wonderful. I spent time getting as much of a torque increase in the end - it results in much fatter power, accessible anywhere.

I'm not competent enough to work out custom maps etc - I have a full Yoshi japan race system for the 600, cams, cam adjusters - and I'll be using a PC (thanks Cajun!). I'm actually using advice from Cajun about maps - trial and error - as opposed to uber-expensive dyno time.

Factory fueling is focused on noise regs, emissions etc. Without those, you can find better power and throttle response. It just takes dollars...

[Pussy]

I got an R6 because I like the way it looks. I love it.

And bloody good on you, too!
R6 is a great bike.
Motorcycling is a personal preference thing, what suits one may not suit another.
I hope the OP test rides a few, and gets the bike HE wants

[=cJ=]

The 1000 is way more bike than you can imagine with your 250 as a frame of reference. If you buy one, get a will and a life insurance policy - you'll have use for both.

Buy the GSXR600 - get the newest one you can afford with the lowest miles. Seek out a mentor. Get track time.

My step from a CBR 250 to a GSX-R 600 was (still is) somewhat mindblowing. For me, riding the GSX-R still feels like sleeping with an axe-murderer. She's pretty, incredible in bed, and all your mates envy you, but one day, she's gonna shake her pretty little ass and do her damnedest to kill you...

My thoughts would be that the step to a 600 will keep you in smiles for some years to come... :)

[LaytonNZ]

Cheer's Bud:) im looking at a Triumph Daytona 08 or a suzuki GSX-R 600/750 k7

[discotex]

but one day, she's gonna shake her pretty little ass and do her damnedest to kill you...


This is the thing that people can't appreciate when coming up from a 250. You're only one hamfisted twist of the throttle away from highside city.

Any bike 600cc or larger has the ability to rip the tyre loose from the tarmac. The larger the engine, the easier it is and the further it will step out before it bites.

I enjoy riding the RPM and getting the most out of my bike so don't really need the extra power. If I was a lazy rider that doesn't like changing gears or was doing a lot of two-up I'd go for the the thou but then I probably wouldn't be after a hardcore sportsbike.

You're looking at sub 4sec 0-100km/h for the GSX-R600 and probably a lowish 11's 1/4 mile. That's farkin fast in anyone's terms. Unless you've done a shitload of miles on the 250 (say 25000km+ over two years or more) it's a way big enough jump.

[LaytonNZ]

Im upgradeing because i done 20000km's in a mater of months, i dont get the buzz out of it anymore.

[Gremlin]

I'm just dubious about the common practice of sitting at home and loading them with fuelling and ignition control data that may or may not have worked on some other bike on the other side of the world.
Off topic... but dubious is about right. Maps from the other side of the world will not be accurate for NZ, simple as that. Our fuel is richer than theirs, so the maps generally make the bikes run rich.

That said, my custom tuned zx10 was still using 6.5-7.5L / 100km. Can't have been me, surely? :shifty: The KTM is going to have a little chat to Triple Zee soon, it uses even more fuel than the zx10 (and has 2/3 of the power) :nono:

For newbies coming up from a 250, any 600+ cc bike and your brain won't be able to comprehend the speed of a bigger bike initially, easy as that...

[Korumba]

Fuck..I am going to go get me an R6 cause its got to be 5 times better than the R1.

and as far as fuel economy.. I can get 100km more or less out of a tank of gas (160km or 260km) depending on what I do with the twisty thing..map that.

Buy the GSX750 they are way cool!

[discotex]

Im upgradeing because i done 20000km's in a mater of months, i dont get the buzz out of it anymore.

Go for it then :)

Just got test ride a bunch of bikes. You'll be surprised. My pre-testriding choice was the ZX-6 636 but the ergonomics totally didn't suit my body. Was a bummer cause it's a bloody great bike and was going cheap at the time.

[LaytonNZ]

Bummer man, i hope that doesnt happen to me:) but im a small guy so i fit most things:eek:

[merlin]

So have you made your choice yet? :) I've just read through the whole thread, as I'm in the exact same position....

WHAT TO BUY?!
WHAT TO BUY?!
WHAT TO BUY?!

:)

[wbks]

Not at all. Custom ECUs are usually necessary if you're going to do anything to a motor. (Although Suzukis since 2003 or so can have the fuelling remapped in the stock engine computer via one of those Teka Tune gizmos.)

I'm just dubious about the common practice of sitting at home and loading them with fuelling and ignition control data that may or may not have worked on some other bike on the other side of the world.So would a fuel injected gixxer 600 net a remap/tune for a yoshimura can?