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just wondering if anyones got one of these? What are they like for fogging, fit... E.T.C? seems a good idea, just wonder how good they are at that price?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97320&highlight=1tonne+helmet
Gizzit
17th May 2009, 10:08
I've seen those helmets at 1Tonne when I was buying some trou recently. They look quite good. They meet our NZ safety standard, and I would say they are good for the money. Ask him. He's on the site. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=16098
Another good cheapy I have found is the FFM helmets. I have got a Tour pro 2. I use it as my second helmet and for commuting. Hasn't got a sun visor though. Most helmets that have a second visor are a lot dearer than the models sold by 1Tonne.
Another option .... that I am using, is to use a tinted visor. I have them on both my helmets now and find them to be really good. Not at night obviously ... but great during the day .... even in wet weather .... no problems.
Good luck with your choice. 1Tonne does have good gear in my experience.
My step son has the basic black helmet without any visor, and finds the helmet to be really good.
cs363
17th May 2009, 10:56
just wondering if anyones got one of these? What are they like for fogging, fit... E.T.C? seems a good idea, just wonder how good they are at that price?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97320&highlight=1tonne+helmet
Whilst it appears they offer good value for the money, things that pop into my mind are that a) there is a cost to building a good helmet, cheap ones make me nervous b) spares availability, this is a no-name helmet most likely made in China and branded for 1-Tonne - I just wonder if they'll be around in a few years and what the availability of visors etc would be like?
Not knocking them otherwise as they are ECE22/05 so shouldn't be a bad lid all things considered. Just thinking aloud on the other points.
Personally I'd rather trust my head and safety to a known and proven brand with good back up, bit like the old Bell ad "$10 head? $10 helmet...."
Each to his own though, just my 2c
disenfranchised
17th May 2009, 11:25
I recently purchased a new helmet.
I was deciding between 2 models that both had dual visor.
I ended up getting a Nolan model, because it fit a little better. It was also cheaper being an end of stock model.
The other helmet I was considering was a LS2, which looks very similar in design to the 1-Tonne model you've linked to.
In a way I wished that the LS2 had fitted better. The Nolan has the visor on the outside, meaning you can only use it with the face fully closed up.
When not in use (night riding etc) it also creates a wind whistle, although I guess I could detatch it completely.
The LS2 model was $399 though...so might be a bit higher quality?
nallac
17th May 2009, 11:36
I have a ls2 flip front with internal visor(was only $240), not impressed with it.
Very noisy, would need to wear ear plugs for a long trip..(can't stand em on the bike myself,have to wear em at work for 12 hours)
Fogs up alot,
sun visor doesn't slide all the way in when closed,leaving an
anoying bit at the top.may be ok on a more up right bike, but not on the R1
Must only have one shell size as the medium ,large and xtra large are tight to get on.Need to open flip front to get on easily.
I end up wearing my old Hjc more often...bummer as the Ls2 was supposed
to be its replacement.
I would pay a bit more and get a HJC or Nolan....but not as much as a Shuberth.
thanks guys, I havn't actually looked at any other makes yet, just saw these and havn't seen any dual visor helmets in the local bike shop, think ill have an ask round tomorrow, I'm sick of swapping visors out all the time so they're probably conveniant just the quality worries me, I dont want a flip front helmet though
BMWST?
17th May 2009, 12:32
thanks guys, I havn't actually looked at any other makes yet, just saw these and havn't seen any dual visor helmets in the local bike shop, think ill have an ask round tomorrow, I'm sick of swapping visors out all the time so they're probably conveniant just the quality worries me, I dont want a flip front helmet though
flip front awesome for tag o rama tho......;)
Bullitt
17th May 2009, 13:07
I have an HJC FS-10 which has the same system. It was about $500 18 months ago from memory.
Its abit of a gimmic, I dont regret buying it but my next one wont have it. Maybe other brands are better but I find the tinted part isnt dark enough (its better than nothing but nothing like a pair of sunglasses) and that it dont come down far enough meaning your always looking at the bottom edge of it rather than completley through it.
Ive never had any trouble with it fogging up, though I dont use the tinted bit that often and the main visor didnt fog up at all when I first bought it so maybe its the same issue with the tinted bit.
As to noise, it blocks out more general noise (eg stopped at traffic lights) but it has more wind noise than my previous cheapie FFM.
MaxCannon
17th May 2009, 19:52
I got a Givi H401 almost a year ago.
Compared it with the Nolan and HJC models with sunvisors and liked it more.
Appears the price has gone up a lot since I got mine.
Think I paid $550 for it and they are now listed at $700
The visor works really well. I find the tint is dark enough and it comes far enough down.
On the other brands the tint was too light and / or the visor cut across my field of vision.
Pitty they are so expensive now. It's really handy being able to flip the visor up or down - wouldn't go back to a normal helmet for day to day use.
Hawkeye
17th May 2009, 23:32
I've been using a Caberge V2 which I imported from the UK a couple of year ago. Love it. So comfortable and the internal visor is dark enough for most occasions. Rumour has it there is a local importer in NZ now so they are really worth checking out :
http://www.caberglids.co.uk/index.php?cPath=88&osCsid=cc7cea9bb229bd8ea81a580297531b95
cs363
17th May 2009, 23:46
Rumour has it there is a local importer in NZ
Not on their website as yet: http://www.caberg-helm.com/Default.aspx
Wasn't Quasi talking about them?
howdamnhard
18th May 2009, 00:48
The Caberg v2 look good , they got a 5 star sharp rating to.
I've been using a Caberge V2 which I imported from the UK a couple of year ago. Love it. So comfortable and the internal visor is dark enough for most occasions. Rumour has it there is a local importer in NZ now so they are really worth checking out :
http://www.caberglids.co.uk/index.php?cPath=88&osCsid=cc7cea9bb229bd8ea81a580297531b95
Second that. One of motorcyclings best kept secrets.
Very comfortable, easy to clean (inners all removeable etc) , top quality paintwork i.e. durable, chip resistant.
I've heard the same rumour Hawkeye. Probably from the same Guy!
I emailed caberg@xtra.co.nz for replacement visor and someone replied that a shipment is due in 8 weeks. Whoever he is needs to get a website up.
cs363
18th May 2009, 07:35
The Caberg v2 look good , they got a 5 star sharp rating to.
Sharp ratings? Phooey
But Caberg's do have a good name and are ECE22/05 approved, good enough for me.
Forgot to mention. I've tried other dual visors and the common design fault is the shape of the inner dark visor. It either doesn't come down far enough, causing the edge to be in your line of sight. Or it doesn't retract out of sight.
The Cabbage is spot on, the bottom edge is curved around your cheeks & nose etc, to fit your face. Some helmets had a straight line left to right?? What sort of head did they design that on?
I've also got an Airoh TR1 but that's a bit noisy and uncomfortable. Still a cool lid though. The Airoh's inner is very dark. Good lid for summer.
3umph
18th May 2009, 08:42
I have an HJC FS-10 which has the same system. It was about $500 18 months ago from memory.
Its abit of a gimmic, I dont regret buying it but my next one wont have it. Maybe other brands are better but I find the tinted part isnt dark enough (its better than nothing but nothing like a pair of sunglasses) and that it dont come down far enough meaning your always looking at the bottom edge of it rather than completley through it.
Ive never had any trouble with it fogging up, though I dont use the tinted bit that often and the main visor didnt fog up at all when I first bought it so maybe its the same issue with the tinted bit.
I have one of these as well... true the tinted could be darker but I have a mirror visor fitted and use the drop down visor quite a bit with that and it works good...
I find the inner does come down far enough and had no problems with fogging yet....
1tonne
19th May 2009, 18:18
just wondering if anyones got one of these? What are they like for fogging, fit... E.T.C? seems a good idea, just wonder how good they are at that price?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=97320&highlight=1tonne+helmet
Hi. These are a good value for money helmet with the ECE-22.05 safety standard. They would retail from shops around the $350-$400 mark. They cut out a good amount of sound and are very comfortable. These are an impressive helmet for the price and I am sure that whoever buys one would not be disapointed. (If you purchase 1, it would be great to hear your comments on here.)
Cheers.
Gizzit
19th May 2009, 21:24
....... cut ...........
The Cabbage is spot on, the bottom edge is curved around your cheeks & nose etc, to fit your face. Some helmets had a straight line left to right?? What sort of head did they design that on? ...... cut ........
Well ..... I'm not sure I can support the use of a cabbage as a helmet ..... regardless of how well it fits your cheeks, nose, and how comfortably it fits your face ........
I mean cabbages are just not safe ....... !!!
I mean if you came off and hit your head while wearing your flash Cabbage helmet ........ you could end up with a very serious head injury ....... or worse .........
you could end up a complete vegetable ....... :no:
cowpatz
20th May 2009, 12:07
I have just purchased a Caberg V2 Rhyno flip up, with a dual visor, and I am very pleased with it. One of the lightest flip ups around, awesome quality, relatively quiet and a 5 star sharp rating. Cost me $425 from the local importer.
I have just purchased a Caberg V2 Rhyno flip up, with a dual visor, and I am very pleased with it. One of the lightest flip ups around, awesome quality, relatively quiet and a 5 star sharp rating. Cost me $425 from the local importer.
Good to hear. Just curious, who is local importer? Where did you get the lid from.
Last time I called NWA, who were supposedly the listed Distrib. but they said they were not interested in bringing them into NZ.
davebullet
20th May 2009, 16:08
Well ..... I'm not sure I can support the use of a cabbage as a helmet ..... regardless of how well it fits your cheeks, nose, and how comfortably it fits your face ........
I mean cabbages are just not safe ....... !!!
I mean if you came off and hit your head while wearing your flash Cabbage helmet ........ you could end up with a very serious head injury ....... or worse .........
you could end up a complete vegetable ....... :no:
My mate Cole, slaw one and bought it immediately and loved it.
cowpatz
20th May 2009, 16:18
Good to hear. Just curious, who is local importer?
He is fairly low key and sells mainly via trade me at present.
The details are:
Alex
13A Evans Rd
Glen eden
Ph: 0272728269
He has stock coming and going all the time. Very pleasant and approachable chap. They are sure worth looking at.
Gizzit
20th May 2009, 22:06
My mate Cole, slaw one and bought it immediately and loved it.
Yeah .... well I might have too ...... in my salad days .....
But now I know better ...... I'm not quite as green ..... as I am cabbage looking ...... :bleh:
Renegade
24th May 2009, 21:34
i have a caberg duel visor lid, its the cats pjamas.
Elysium
25th May 2009, 05:00
Well ..... I'm not sure I can support the use of a cabbage as a helmet ..... regardless of how well it fits your cheeks, nose, and how comfortably it fits your face ........
I mean cabbages are just not safe ....... !!!
I mean if you came off and hit your head while wearing your flash Cabbage helmet ........ you could end up with a very serious head injury ....... or worse .........
you could end up a complete vegetable ....... :no:
I do recommend Red Cabbage as I find it more stronger then normal Green cabbage
NighthawkNZ
25th May 2009, 07:44
Very noisy, would need to wear ear plugs for a long trip..(can't stand em on the bike myself,have to wear em at work for 12 hours)
All flip top helmets by definition are noisier than non flip tops... you have two great cracks running down the side of your helmet.
nallac
25th May 2009, 08:15
All flip top helmets by definition are noisier than non flip tops... you have two great cracks running down the side of your helmet.
That would be true, but some have to be better than others....such as the shuberth(sp) in there advetising ,the flip front isn't that much higher decibel
wise over there other full face.
Any i would hope so for the price.
Gizzit
27th May 2009, 18:41
I do recommend Red Cabbage as I find it more stronger then normal Green cabbage
Not sure it would go with my fluro pink and yellow banana leaf suit tho ..... ????!!!!!! Still ..... your red cabbage is a far safer colour ..... :D
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