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pyrocam
17th March 2005, 09:26
someone pointed out to me yesterday how long the pink was on my bike.
"What pink?" I exclaimed with outrage,
and yeah, it IS pink, I never looked at it that way before. (I dont mind the purple so much)

I could try to remove the stickers but I have a feeling there is some kind of top-coat over them and removing them might stuff up the paint job.
maybe I could use some painters tape and spray paint the pink black.

thoughts?

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 09:34
lol.. I thought you were comfotable with your sexuality, so never mentioned anything..
could always do a 'ghost rider' thing, go to Repco and buy 3 cans of mat-black and go nuts..
Else there's a good chance those stickers have a clear coat over the top, which means the stickers were put on, then the top layer. To take the stickers off would be to take off the top layer of the laquer. Could always laquer back, but you'll never get it looking right, unless you pay for it to be done..

I guess it boils down to 3 questions - How long are you keeping the bike? How much money have you got to burn? Does the pink really annoy you that much, given your answer to the first 2 questions?

MSTRS
17th March 2005, 09:36
I could try to remove the stickers but I have a feeling there is some kind of top-coat over them and removing them might stuff up the paint job.
maybe I could use some painters tape and spray paint the pink black.

thoughts?
Go see an automotive spray shop. Sounds like your paint and decals have been clearcoated so prbably best to leave alone if it doesn't bother you too much. Muchos time & $ to do anything else.

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 09:39
lol.. I thought you were comfotable with your sexuality, so never mentioned anything..
could always do a 'ghost rider' thing, go to Repco and buy 3 cans of mat-black and go nuts..
Else there's a good chance those stickers have a clear coat over the top, which means the stickers were put on, then the top layer. To take the stickers off would be to take off the top layer of the laquer. Could always laquer back, but you'll never get it looking right, unless you pay for it to be done..

I guess it boils down to 3 questions - How long are you keeping the bike? How much money have you got to burn? Does the pink really annoy you that much, given your answer to the first 2 questions?


I do like being nice and visable, I dislike ther pink. mildly at best.
I expect I am going to do a hack job like everything else I do.

can you spray over laquer with enamel spray paint? I might get something that goes with purple (I suppose purble and black is pretty visable)

color suggestions?

edit: proberly keeping the bike as long as it lasts. I have a hunch I am not going to sell an old bike to buy a new one, means Ill still have transport when one breaks. I dont think I could sell it for much after its been through 2 noob riders. I only paid $2000 for it

MSTRS
17th March 2005, 09:50
I do like being nice and visable, I dislike ther pink. mildly at best.
I expect I am going to do a hack job like everything else I do.

can you spray over laquer with enamel spray paint? I might get something that goes with purple (I suppose purble and black is pretty visable)

color suggestions?

edit: proberly keeping the bike as long as it lasts. I have a hunch I am not going to sell an old bike to buy a new one, means Ill still have transport when one breaks. I dont think I could sell it for much after its been through 2 noob riders. I only paid $2000 for it
If you are going to dick with the paint, best go 'rat' cos anything else will be shit or expensive

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 09:54
could always buy that 'chameleon' paint that Repco to.. they sell it in the 3 can packs, don't think it's that expensive. Then your bike will be almost every colour!
Don't know if it'd go straight onto the laquer tho, you might have to get some sandpaper to roughen it up a bit so the paint will stick..
don't mind giving you a hand too if you want.. be a bit of fun

vifferman
17th March 2005, 09:55
Flamethrower.

That'll do it. :yeah:

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 10:07
Flamethrower.

That'll do it. :yeah:

Yeah awesome

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 10:10
could always buy that 'chameleon' paint that Repco to.. they sell it in the 3 can packs, don't think it's that expensive. Then your bike will be almost every colour!
Don't know if it'd go straight onto the laquer tho, you might have to get some sandpaper to roughen it up a bit so the paint will stick..
don't mind giving you a hand too if you want.. be a bit of fun


aww yeah. I could huune over to the shore.

are you thinking cover over the stickers or just do the whole fairing. there isnt that much of it.

I dont like doin it much as its semi illegal as I 'ave to go at least 80 to get from the bridge to the taka off-ramp and im still on a learners, I havent been stopped yet but the $400 fine and 25 demerit points is a bit of a bummer.

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 10:14
If you are going to dick with the paint, best go 'rat' cos anything else will be shit or expensive

'rat' eh? what?

edit *wow three posts in a row. I rock.
re the flamethrower thing. I cant get one, but maybe trodgor can help me with them

vifferman
17th March 2005, 10:22
I dont like doin it much as its semi illegal as I 'ave to go at least 80 to get from the bridge to the taka off-ramp and im still on a learners, I havent been stopped yet but the $400 fine and 25 demerit points is a bit of a bummer.
Go at 'rush' hour, or thereabouts, and you'd be lucky to get up to 60!
Liked your flamethrower pic - good work! :niceone:

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 10:30
Go at 'rush' hour, or thereabouts, and you'd be lucky to get up to 60!
Liked your flamethrower pic - good work! :niceone:

hey, good idea. I forgot about that. I normally try to avoid it, thats freaking brilliant. I can go anywhere on the motorway as long as its 5-6 ish

thanks. MS paint baby yeehaa
I have too much time at work :whistle: :shifty:

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 10:32
aww yeah. I could huune over to the shore.

are you thinking cover over the stickers or just do the whole fairing. there isnt that much of it.

I dont like doin it much as its semi illegal as I 'ave to go at least 80 to get from the bridge to the taka off-ramp and im still on a learners, I havent been stopped yet but the $400 fine and 25 demerit points is a bit of a bummer.
depends what kind of finish you want.. if you don't really care, then a quick scuff with paper then go over it. 50/50 chance the outline of the stickers won't show..
If you want a semi-pro 'ok' job, then you go a little more nutty with the sand paper, just takes longer, but less chance anything will show thru (real slim chance), so up to you.

Most cops will understand if you want to go a little over 70 to stop yer ass being creamed on the freeway. Might give you a slap on the wrist, just go with the flow.. Not turning this into another cop thread tho.

The 3 pack can thing has primer, the paint and a laquer. I'm guessin you'll need no more than 3 packs, might get away with 2.. Also, if you want any more stickers back on it, like RGV or 'I'm a Krusty Deamon' or whatever, then get them before you start, then put them on before the laquer goes on..

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 10:40
depends what kind of finish you want.. if you don't really care, then a quick scuff with paper then go over it. 50/50 chance the outline of the stickers won't show..
If you want a semi-pro 'ok' job, then you go a little more nutty with the sand paper, just takes longer, but less chance anything will show thru (real slim chance), so up to you.

Most cops will understand if you want to go a little over 70 to stop yer ass being creamed on the freeway. Might give you a slap on the wrist, just go with the flow.. Not turning this into another cop thread tho.

The 3 pack can thing has primer, the paint and a laquer. I'm guessin you'll need no more than 3 packs, might get away with 2.. Also, if you want any more stickers back on it, like RGV or 'I'm a Krusty Deamon' or whatever, then get them before you start, then put them on before the laquer goes on..

I have a reasonable electric sander or for more hardcore I just bought an angle grinder from repco although I guess thats a bit too beefy.

Im happy to go stickerless I dont feel the urge to plaster my bike with crud. except maybe 'keep on truckin' im not sure anyone knows what that means.
Or maybe a KB logo sticker. but Im buying the hoodie, thats enough for now.

If I / we are sanding the crap out of it. then ideally I might as well remove the stickers anyway?

do you mean 3 packs of the 3 pack packs?
Or 1 packet of three types of paint (primer, the paint and a laquer)

Um is it a biggy that only the tank is metal and the rest feels like cheap plastic? Ive tried removing them before without much luck, quite hard to get the screws off.

Rofl I just noticed. with the poll above, the 'its only a color' option is a pink bar HAHA

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 10:46
I have a reasonable electric sander or for more hardcore I just bought an angle grinder from repco although I guess thats a bit too beefy.

Im happy to go stickerless I dont feel the urge to plaster my bike with crud. except maybe 'keep on truckin' im not sure anyone knows what that means.
Or maybe a KB logo sticker. but Im buying the hoodie, thats enough for now.

If I / we are sanding the crap out of it. then ideally I might as well remove the stickers anyway?

do you mean 3 packs of the 3 pack packs?
Or 1 packet of three types of paint (primer, the paint and a laquer)
each pack has 3 cans - primer, the paint and a laquer. It should say on the pack how much area it'll cover. I'm thinking to do a decent job, 2 packs might be a stretch, but 3 would be too much.. So that bit will be your call.

An angle grinder might be a tad overkill, but hey, could be wrong. It's your bike! Hell, while we're at it, stick some neons on and stuff..
With Spanks permission, could even 'ghost' effect the KB logo on the farings.. or 'ghost' flames on the side or anything else you can think of.. Might only be a 150, doesn't mean you can't have fun doin it! Just don't bin it afterwards!

We can cover my garage in newspaper and just go nuts.. won't be a problem

jrandom
17th March 2005, 11:00
It *is* only a colour, you know. Why do you care about it?

Then again, I guess I'm spoiled. *My* first bike had the Telefonica racing colours, which made it at least 20% faster.

Pink stripes, however... well, you lose about 5bhp right there.

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 11:02
It *is* only a colour, you know. Why do you care about it?

Then again, I guess I'm spoiled. *My* first bike had the Telefonica racing colours, which made it at least 20% faster.

Pink stripes, however... well, you lose about 5bhp right there.
what do you think it is for bright orange then?

jrandom
17th March 2005, 11:04
what do you think it is for bright orange then?

Dunno, but it's not as pretty as blue.

There was a blue 636 parked up in Takapuna yesterday lunchtime.

It were booty-licious. :love:

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 11:06
each pack has 3 cans - primer, the paint and a laquer. It should say on the pack how much area it'll cover. I'm thinking to do a decent job, 2 packs might be a stretch, but 3 would be too much.. So that bit will be your call.

An angle grinder might be a tad overkill, but hey, could be wrong. It's your bike! Hell, while we're at it, stick some neons on and stuff..
With Spanks permission, could even 'ghost' effect the KB logo on the farings.. or 'ghost' flames on the side or anything else you can think of.. Might only be a 150, doesn't mean you can't have fun doin it! Just don't bin it afterwards!

We can cover my garage in newspaper and just go nuts.. won't be a problem
Ohhh Im geting all excited now.
some KB logo 'ghosted' would be cool. Im not 100% sure I know exactly what ghosting is but I assume its like those logo's that are only visable sometimes.

Im not so hot on the flames idea though :confused: (no pun intended)

the chameleon stuff, does it have err, tints? make it more likey to be a blueish color than a greenish color? Im gonna shoot over to repco at 12:30 have a looky

check out my idea, I have just done a crappy job with paint cos im in a hurry


then again. I dunno If spankme would like a L plate'r to be sporting the logo. ill PM him I suppose.

If I ever did want to get rid of the bike I could gift it to the KB community I suppose.

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 11:08
Dunno, but it's not as pretty as blue.

There was a blue 636 parked up in Takapuna yesterday lunchtime.

It were booty-licious. :love:
nah, see I reckon most other bikes in blue just look too much like Yamas.. Blue is their colour, leave it people! I was riding up with Swanny and ScooterBoy the other night. Swanny on his R1 and SB on his ZX10. Both blue. The ZX could have been mistaken for the R1 at a glance.. Same with the 636 in blue. Bet you had to look twice when you realised it wasn't an R6 or something.. I don't want to blend.. I want to shout!
Orange kicks ass. period. Only on my bike tho, little else..

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 11:12
Ohhh Im geting all excited now.
some KB logo 'ghosted' would be cool. Im not 100% sure I know exactly what ghosting is but I assume its like those logo's that are only visable sometimes.

Im not so hot on the flames idea though :confused: (no pun intended)

the chameleon stuff, does it have err, tints? make it more likey to be a blueish color than a greenish color? Im gonna shoot over to repco at 12:30 have a looky

check out my idea, I have just done a crappy job with paint cos im in a hurry


then again. I dunno If spankme would like a L plate'r to be sporting the logo. ill PM him I suppose.

If I ever did want to get rid of the bike I could gift it to the KB community I suppose.
dude, you've got too much time to burn at work!
Yeah, the ghost effect is when you can see something, but only at a certain angle. Tad tricky to do, but a few ways to do it, so have to play around to see what works the best.

The paint is as-is. You put it on, the sun and angle of the bike does the rest. From a head-on view of the panel, it might be brown, but then as you move round, it might go green, then purple, then blue sort of thing.. It's something to do with the flakes in the paint. As it reflects the light, it shows different. So bearing that in mind, you have to spray all the panels in the same directions, else some bits will show off different to others.. unless you want that. But by taking that into account, you can do the ghosting effect with it too..

there's always this thread for stickers too
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9508

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 11:24
dude, you've got too much time to burn at work!
Yeah, the ghost effect is when you can see something, but only at a certain angle. Tad tricky to do, but a few ways to do it, so have to play around to see what works the best.

The paint is as-is. You put it on, the sun and angle of the bike does the rest. From a head-on view of the panel, it might be brown, but then as you move round, it might go green, then purple, then blue sort of thing.. It's something to do with the flakes in the paint. As it reflects the light, it shows different. So bearing that in mind, you have to spray all the panels in the same directions, else some bits will show off different to others.. unless you want that. But by taking that into account, you can do the ghosting effect with it too..

there's always this thread for stickers too
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=9508



you dont sound so keen on blue. what about mixing the blue's maybe light blue at the front with dark at the back and maybe even a really light spray of the chamelon over the top so it has that effect althou not to such an extent.

uggh a brown bike.

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 11:33
you dont sound so keen on blue. what about mixing the blue's maybe light blue at the front with dark at the back and maybe even a really light spray of the chamelon over the top so it has that effect althou not to such an extent.

uggh a brown bike.
it might not be 'brown' persay, it's just how the colour is applied. It could look purple, until you move, then it'll change colour.. They spray the can lids with the paint, so have a look when you get to Repco, if you go..

I don't have a problem with blue, not at all. I just think Yama has done good in making the R bikes stand out with their blue. Other similar styled bike would be mistaken for yamas, but I don't think that'd be your case, truth be told.. no offence ;)

If you want to do blue, then yeah, go for it.. Metalics always look nicer than solids, in my opinion, so may be look at that too.. Just go down to the shop and see what colour(s) stand out. End of the day, it's your money, your idea, your bike, so will all due respect, you do what you want.. I'm all up for helping tho.. I love dossing around spraying up stuff.. Haven't had a project to help on for ages

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 12:22
it might not be 'brown' persay, it's just how the colour is applied. It could look purple, until you move, then it'll change colour.. They spray the can lids with the paint, so have a look when you get to Repco, if you go..

I don't have a problem with blue, not at all. I just think Yama has done good in making the R bikes stand out with their blue. Other similar styled bike would be mistaken for yamas, but I don't think that'd be your case, truth be told.. no offence ;)

If you want to do blue, then yeah, go for it.. Metalics always look nicer than solids, in my opinion, so may be look at that too.. Just go down to the shop and see what colour(s) stand out. End of the day, it's your money, your idea, your bike, so will all due respect, you do what you want.. I'm all up for helping tho.. I love dossing around spraying up stuff.. Haven't had a project to help on for ages


Ok I got frekin lost on the way there. I only get 1/2 hour so buy the time I got there I had to come back. I had a quick squiz and I couldnt see those 3 packs you mentioned.

lots of primers and laquers etc. and some small bottles of the nice metalic paint. I saw a nice one, I think it was carribeann blue

really hard to find examples
http://www.affordablespas.com/colors.shtml
has a granite version of it.
*edit dont bother

Im not sure if that variant of blue is going to be, vivid? enough. its a bit too average. I want something that really stands out without being really expensive or ghey looking.

*edit Im wondering what kind of budget I need to set up for this.
my other 2 projects are kinda taking all my money at the moment so Im looking at $50 or less to get it started. least until 15th of April (stupid monthly pay)

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 12:57
Ok I got frekin lost on the way there. I only get 1/2 hour so buy the time I got there I had to come back. I had a quick squiz and I couldnt see those 3 packs you mentioned.

lots of primers and laquers etc. and some small bottles of the nice metalic paint. I saw a nice one, I think it was carribeann blue

really hard to find examples
http://www.affordablespas.com/colors.shtml
has a granite version of it.
*edit dont bother

Im not sure if that variant of blue is going to be, vivid? enough. its a bit too average. I want something that really stands out without being really expensive or ghey looking.

*edit Im wondering what kind of budget I need to set up for this.
my other 2 projects are kinda taking all my money at the moment so Im looking at $50 or less to get it started. least until 15th of April (stupid monthly pay)
sux you got lost..
As for how much it'll all cost, well that's down to you. I'm not sure on prices of paint, but you'll probably need (at a guess) 3 cans of primer (may be one filler primer, 2 regular) 3 cans of the colour, and 3 cans of laquer. Was thinking about more on it, you've got the tank etc too, so 3 would probably be about right..

And the colours will look different when it's on the bike. Most of the colours will look a tad dull in the shop, but it's a different story when it's on the bike and in the sun.. Head back when you get more time after work etc, and have a proper look. Which store did you/are you going to? I'm in town after work today, gotta go to Mt Eden bikes, then over to St Lukes, so could catch up somewhere if you like.. Grey Lynn Repco or something?

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 13:11
sux you got lost..
As for how much it'll all cost, well that's down to you. I'm not sure on prices of paint, but you'll probably need (at a guess) 3 cans of primer (may be one filler primer, 2 regular) 3 cans of the colour, and 3 cans of laquer. Was thinking about more on it, you've got the tank etc too, so 3 would probably be about right..

And the colours will look different when it's on the bike. Most of the colours will look a tad dull in the shop, but it's a different story when it's on the bike and in the sun.. Head back when you get more time after work etc, and have a proper look. Which store did you/are you going to? I'm in town after work today, gotta go to Mt Eden bikes, then over to St Lukes, so could catch up somewhere if you like.. Grey Lynn Repco or something?


Grey Lynn Repco, yeah I can make that (just) but they close at 5:30 tonight. New Lynn is 7pm which is the one I went to at lunch.

Super cheap auto in kelston is open until 9pm tonight and they are only 5-10mins away from each other

thoughts?

wow three cans per layer. thats going to be intresting

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 13:23
Grey Lynn Repco, yeah I can make that (just) but they close at 5:30 tonight. New Lynn is 7pm which is the one I went to at lunch.

Super cheap auto in kelston is open until 9pm tonight and they are only 5-10mins away from each other

thoughts?

wow three cans per layer. thats going to be intresting
didn't know they shut at 5.30.. won't make that then. Might be able to make NL or Kelston if you want.. But don't know at the mo. I have no idea how long I'll be at Mt Eden or St Lukes.. can't see it being hours tho, so there's a 75% chance I can make it before 7. text me later 021 234 7744 if you wanna catch up..

as for 3 cans per layer, well you've got 3 processes to make it work, and you've got to look at how much area you have to cover.. Break it down a little, plus the area a can will cover equally and fully, it starts to add up.. Could do it faring by faring.. spread the cost and time :niceone:

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 14:08
didn't know they shut at 5.30.. won't make that then. Might be able to make NL or Kelston if you want.. But don't know at the mo. I have no idea how long I'll be at Mt Eden or St Lukes.. can't see it being hours tho, so there's a 75% chance I can make it before 7. text me later 021 234 7744 if you wanna catch up..

as for 3 cans per layer, well you've got 3 processes to make it work, and you've got to look at how much area you have to cover.. Break it down a little, plus the area a can will cover equally and fully, it starts to add up.. Could do it faring by faring.. spread the cost and time :niceone:

ahh good idea, It might look a bit munted for a while but thats ok. I should proberly get to St' Lukes after work also. I need to pick up some stuff. Ill be at the mall just before 6ish

bugger, I just noticed my L plate has fallen off lol, Ill have to re-attach a spare. might be better if you text me when your done. im 021 HQ PYRO (021 47 79 76)

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 14:11
ahh good idea, It might look a bit munted for a while but thats ok. I should proberly get to St' Lukes after work also. I need to pick up some stuff. Ill be at the mall just before 6ish

bugger, I just noticed my L plate has fallen off lol, Ill have to re-attach a spare. might be better if you text me when your done. im 021 HQ PYRO (021 47 79 76)
6 or there abouts should work for me.. Isn't there a Repco near St Lukes? Can't remember now.. Either way, catch ya around there. Might be a little after 6, but I'll be around somewhere. Bike is usually parked in the middle level car park near where they keep their golf-cart thingies (and no, you can't play on them - I've asked..)

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 14:40
6 or there abouts should work for me.. Isn't there a Repco near St Lukes? Can't remember now.. Either way, catch ya around there. Might be a little after 6, but I'll be around somewhere. Bike is usually parked in the middle level car park near where they keep their golf-cart thingies (and no, you can't play on them - I've asked..)

cool Ill see if I cant park near there.
repco =
Whangaparaoa 663 Whangaparaoa Rd
North Shore 79-81 Wairau Rd
Grey Lynn 285 Gt North Rd
Henderson Cnr Central Park Dr & Winston Pl
Kelston 4085 Great North Rd
New Lynn 9 Clark St
Greenlane 137 Great South Rd
Highland Park 28 Aviemore Dr
Onehunga 51 Princes St
The Hub 451 Ti Rakau Drive, Botany
Mt Wellington 510 Mt Wellington Highway
Manukau 13 Cavendish Drive
Pukekohe 106 Manukau Rd
Browns Bay Cnr Beach Rd & Glencoe Close
Otahuhu 628 Great South Rd
Takanini 230 Great South Rd
Westgate 11 Fernhill Rd
Manurewa Unit 2, 11 Weymouth Rd
Glen Innes 141 Aparana Avenue

I dont know the area as much as I would like to but I reckon New Lynn would be the closest. might be a bit further out than you might like to go I dont know. New Lynn does seem kind of small though

Super Cheap Auto is a little further and open later. I would expect them to have the same stuff. and from the look of the outside of the store they look a bit bigger too.

What about a normal hardware store? would they have the right kind of primer etc. I dont know if normal primer would be suitable for both metal and plastic. I spose it would be going onto a painted surface anyway.

I still haevnt heard back from spank me re logo's etc

bugjuice
17th March 2005, 15:07
Whangaparaoa should do..

else, yeah, probably NL is the closest, then we can move onto SCA, check them all, it's just heading away from the general direction we live, but that's ok..

Not sure if a regular hardware store would carry the right stuff, cos most of the paint (all the ones you should look for) need to be applicable to plastics, else if the faring bends, the paint will crack. We'll figure all that when we catch up.

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 15:18
Whangaparaoa should do..

else, yeah, probably NL is the closest, then we can move onto SCA, check them all, it's just heading away from the general direction we live, but that's ok..

Not sure if a regular hardware store would carry the right stuff, cos most of the paint (all the ones you should look for) need to be applicable to plastics, else if the faring bends, the paint will crack. We'll figure all that when we catch up.

Ace.
meh I live in MT albert and if I can help it Ill go riding anywhere anyway.

Im learning my way around west a little bit. not too far though :)

catch you later then

inlinefour
17th March 2005, 17:41
Are you not out of the closet? If not maybe its time to do so? Otherwise, its only a colour. Our car has a big pink pin stripe down each side of it. I let the misses choose the car. I don't have a problem with it or your bike either. You should not either mate...

SPman
17th March 2005, 18:51
You got some spare pink going?
I'll have it!
I loov it

and the old girl is getting a bit patchy, of late

NC
17th March 2005, 21:18
Petrol and a match....

Blakamin
17th March 2005, 22:11
dont buy the repco shit.... It consists of black (basecoat), colour (comes in a choice of 3) and clear.....
It gives a pretty shit finish (fucked if you haven't painted a pearl of CoB process before) and its $40 -$50 for enuff paint to do fuck-all (1 pack, I'd say you would need 3)
You WILL have to buy a seperate, sandable primer and by the time you've spent all this money, you could have got a decent paintjob from someone who knows what they're doing...


the real shit is the way to go but would cost more....

[edit] trying to take a photo of a jukebox bit i did with the stuff when the boss was being cheap, but its not working in this light..

also it will look brown (or green) most of the time :sick:

and its a bit "90's" now.....

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 22:11
Are you not out of the closet? If not maybe its time to do so? Otherwise, its only a colour. Our car has a big pink pin stripe down each side of it. I let the misses choose the car. I don't have a problem with it or your bike either. You should not either mate...

after discussing it a bit futher ive decided not to just remove the pink from the bike but repaint the whole deal with BugJuice's help
I went on a small ride with 'im today to look at some of the products available (btw repco new lynn is crapaxor for re-painting products)

my latest idea is a darker metailic blue on the lower fairings going up to a nice smooth and suble lighter blue on the top.


SPMan if you want to come rip the pink RGV sticker shown on the second photo then come over and go nuts. I dont wants it and its gonna get destroyed. I reckon its pointless though, maybe try 'Flesh' in town.

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 22:24
dont buy the repco shit.... It consists of black (basecoat), colour (comes in a choice of 3) and clear.....
It gives a pretty shit finish (fucked if you haven't painted a pearl of CoB process before) and its $40 -$50 for enuff paint to do fuck-all (1 pack, I'd say you would need 3)
You WILL have to buy a seperate, sandable primer and by the time you've spent all this money, you could have got a decent paintjob from someone who knows what they're doing...


the real shit is the way to go but would cost more....

[edit] trying to take a photo of a jukebox bit i did with the stuff when the boss was being cheap, but its not working in this light..

also it will look brown (or green) most of the time :sick:

and its a bit "90's" now.....

Yeah Ive pretty much gone off the chameleon style for now. im not to keen on it, looks pretty crappy on the cars ive seen.
and after me and bugjuice's looking around today Im thinking it might be a better idea to explore other options.
I have 2 ideas.
1) I just moved out of a flat that was above a car painting shop in Kingsland. Im on pretty good terms with the landlord/paintshop manager I could proberly get it done but it would be expensive
2) I have a friend who has a '<a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=spray%20painter" onmouseover="window.status='spray painter'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">spray painter</a>' machine, im thinking of buying <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=car%20paint" onmouseover="window.status='car paint'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">car paint</a> and borrowing it for the job. proberly do a better job of the subtle mixing than me with a spray paint can :)

*edit. It wouldnt be as good of a deal as it sounds. I kinda put a big torso sized fat hole in the wall just before I left (dont ask, getting rid of hiccups)

Blakamin
17th March 2005, 22:32
umm... make sure you have someone around that can show you how not to get runs, get good even coats and to mix the thinners etc :niceone:





btw, here's the photo anyway... looks brown without the flash

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 22:47
umm... make sure you have someone around that can show you how not to get runs, get good even coats and to mix the thinners etc :niceone:





btw, here's the photo anyway... looks brown without the flash

Is that the chameleon paint?

looks weird if it is, just one part purple, I suspect its the light though
re: painting.
Im an up-myself handiman NZ'R (maybe I could replace all the fairings with no# 8 wire?) and one of my flatmates is 'in the industry' who used the thing to paint his mini, that is after he fucked it up by using repco shit :)

Blakamin
17th March 2005, 22:53
Is that the chameleon paint?


yeah... the flash fooked it....

what sort of machine are you talking about??? I hope a compressor and a proper gun :niceone:

pyrocam
17th March 2005, 23:06
yeah... the flash fooked it....

what sort of machine are you talking about??? I hope a compressor and a proper gun :niceone:

actually I dont know. its one of those friend through a friend deal's
as far as I am aware its a professional machine, (sandblaster plugged into a can of housepaint?)

If I catch my flatmate before I leave Ill tell you during workin' hours tomorow, otherwise gnight.

Wolf
18th March 2005, 06:23
Great thing about this site is the skilled and helpful people on it. Good on ya bj and good on those others who have given advice.

When I got the components for my Zundapp repainted I figured I got a great deal just paying three hundred and the cost of the paint. The bloke who did it was Tom McCarron, used to live out at Rukuhia, and he was a classic bike (and car) enthusiast - had restored a great number of old bikes and cars.

We got the cyanide-based black Acran (spelling?) for the frame and gloss car enamel for the panels. Tom supplied the primer - and also smuggled a few key pieces out to the airfield where he worked and painted them with air-force grade anti-rust paint.

As I was expecting to pay well over $1000 in addition to the paint I was well chuffed. I saw enough of the stages to appreciate the amount of work that went into it. Didn't do a clear coat over the top, tho'.

Looking forward to seeing pics of the finished bike, pyro.

betti
18th March 2005, 06:51
changing the paint job is a cool idea, but if you want to sell the bike on ever , keepin it fairly standard is the way to get best bucks for it.
Had the same thing with a gs125 my wife had, she hated the stickers,( it had orange and yellow ones ) so I traced round em, and shot down to the local sticker place, got him to knock me up a new set in purple(her fav. colour surprise surprise), then attacked the bike with sanders and nitromors(not on fibreglass!!!), sprayed the base coat back up with a couple of cheap aerosols. whacked the new stickerson and laquered the lot.
bingo, a bike she liked!.
Its a bit of work, but fairly cheap to do :2thumbsup

pyrocam
18th March 2005, 07:32
:niceone: sweet deal wolf :)


Allrighty, I think its a good time to open this up for discussion. I will be doing this myself (I mean not done professionally, not excluding help from fellow Kb'rs) and Ill be filming/photoing the entire process ( :banana: with my new digtal camcord GLEE :banana: )

Anyways,
We have one tank, purple, stickers under the laquer,
front fairing, side front fairings (small) and the elongated side rear fairings. All plastic, stickers slapped on the outside, no laquer.

I figure It would be most cost effective to do one peice at a time, the plastic could be done without much rush as I dont expect its going to rust much :)

So Id like your suggestions and comments on how to do this 'on the cheap' I guess Im going to break out some sandpaper and start ripping off as much of the paint as I can. Ill be starting on the plastic fairings.

Ill wait till next week before I start sanding so I can get some good quality photo's of the bike before it gets ugly.



I proberly will post them on www.pyrocam.com once I fix the PHP and sort the server out. Anyone have a laptop that can run windows 2000 (maybe a 300Mhz with 64MB ?) with onboard networking and at least 2 GB HDD? the current server is a 166 desktop computer thats far too loud in my room. Ill give you a yournamehere@pyrocam.com and a www.whateveryouwant.pyrocam.com domain. Cheers

pyrocam
20th March 2005, 13:37
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Its a dancing banana party!

http://www.pyrocam.com

Part one of the repainting project has begun!!



ps. please advise me on any problems with the site etc.

pinkhoggirl
27th September 2005, 21:47
And whats wrong with pink?

Sniper
27th September 2005, 21:57
Whats up with resurrecting a a 6 month old thread that doesn't matter anymore?

SPORK
27th September 2005, 22:33
Whats up with resurrecting a a 6 month old thread that doesn't matter anymore?
I have a strong feeling she decided to do a search for "pink", or saw PINK in the title and decided to reward us with such an important and usefull post such as that.

pyrocam
27th September 2005, 22:54
Interestingly, as of yesterday, according to the search of the forums this was the oldest thread ive posted in (well started in this case) I just went to go have a look at what it was and this thread was on the bottom of the last page.


maybe I have a stalker.



edit: that is quite unnerving.
to have something like my 20th post on the same page as my 1300th post (or close enuf you get the picture)

pyrocam
5th October 2005, 09:33
Im finally done painting it!

wooohooo!

just needs a couple of touch ups and another clearcoat to be finished completly but heres it now (see first page for what it used to look like)

(oh yeah and maybe some decals later)

Wolf
5th October 2005, 10:25
Im finally done painting it!

wooohooo!

just needs a couple of touch ups and another clearcoat to be finished completly but heres it now (see first page for what it used to look like)

(oh yeah and maybe some decals later)
Fucking superb. Looks great. Congrats and a' that.

vifferman
5th October 2005, 10:28
Those pics look scarily like the parking gargre at work, except maybe the parks are a little wider than ours.

Bike looks good. :niceone:

Sniper
5th October 2005, 10:28
Looks good mate