Length of races?

[Prof - R]

i would just like to find out what the others think

which would you prefer

few shorter races on the day (currently think maybe 3 races between 6-10 laps)

or

one long one ( about the total of all 3 races in one go)

[Str8 Jacket]

i would just like to find out what the others think

which would you prefer

few shorter races on the day (currently think maybe 3 races between 6-10 laps)

or

one long one ( about the total of all 3 races in one go)

Varied from round to round would be cool, I reckon.... Be a good way to learn about your riding etc

[Drew]

The advantage of more races with less laps, is it allows set up changes, and another go if ya biff your bike away, (or another two goes if you're me onboard a Ducati).

One race per class would actually get HEAPS more laps in, because there is only a third the time required to grid up, and get off the track.

I'd still rather more races, less laps.

[neil_cb125t]

a good mix is good - this will expand us racers abilities and fitness etc.
it also stops people in post classics and F3 building bikes with 5l fuel tanks!!

long races would put alot of pressure on that race - if something is wrong or you get run off the track you cant redeem yourself in the following race.

[Drew]

if something is wrong or .

Like a broken handle bar? Cant believe you finished that race man, PROPS!

[Biggles08]

i would just like to find out what the others think

which would you prefer

few shorter races on the day (currently think maybe 3 races between 6-10 laps)

or

one long one ( about the total of all 3 races in one go)

I like more races, less laps. For the reasons above and also I like starts and first corners with too many bikes fighting for the line....exciting times!

Maybe mixing it up between rounds would be good too...

[scracha]

I like more races, less laps. For the reasons above and also I like starts and first corners with too many bikes fighting for the line....exciting times!

Maybe mixing it up between rounds would be good too...

Yer...by lap 3 or 4 there's not much overtaking happening.

[scrivy]

I prefer 6 lap sprint races!! You get just as shagged as longer races, and also the spectators get to watch intense racing rather than a precession which is usually more than not decided after 3 laps anyway!

[koba]

I like a mix aye, I find with less races that are longer qulifying position isn't as absolutley critical.

[codgyoleracer]

I'me old - I like short races ....... :-)

nah, in reality probably 2 x sprint races & one long race if the club has the time up there sleeve to complete them on the day of course. The long race being say twice the length of the short races ?
Glen

[sharky]

I agree the biggest adrenalin kick of a race is the start and first corner. In saying that, the most enjoyable race I've had was the Endurance (45mins) at Puke a few weeks ago, even though I crashed and entry numbers were low. I found there were heaps of good battles due to the fact that you can't ride at 100% for the whole race. Somebody might be on a quicker bike than you, but if you go hard for a few laps you can catch up if they're having a snooze and vice-versa. So it introduces a few more elements like strategy and fitness, both mental and physical.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I think a alternating between meetings would be awesome, or with the two dat events that VMCC put on, run the first day like a normal race day with short races and on the second day put on say a 45 - 60 min race. that'll sort the men from the boys, and I think after my experience from taupo endurance race, the racing will be just as exciting if not more so with the added interest factor of possible pit stops and race strategies

[Biggles08]

I think a alternating between meetings would be awesome, or with the two dat events that VMCC put on, run the first day like a normal race day with short races and on the second day put on say a 45 - 60 min race. that'll sort the men from the boys, and I think after my experience from taupo endurance race, the racing will be just as exciting if not more so with the added interest factor of possible pit stops and race strategies
Actually thats a good point...pit stops might make it more difficult to organize pit crew etc for riders...goodness knows its hard enough now and most of the work done in the pits at a race meet is riders helping out other riders so that could be a negative for longer races.

[sharky]

Actually thats a good point...pit stops might make it more difficult to organize pit crew etc for riders...goodness knows its hard enough now and most of the work done in the pits at a race meet is riders helping out other riders so that could be a negative for longer races.


Yeah, that's why 45 mins worked well. No need to stop for fuel or battery replacement if running total loss, (for us little F3 guys anyway). Maybe the bigger bikes couldn't go that long?????

[roogazza]

I prefer 6 lap sprint races!! You get just as shagged as longer races, and also the spectators get to watch intense racing rather than a precession which is usually more than not decided after 3 laps anyway!

+1 , Sprint races every time. Never was a fan of more than 10 or 15 laps, preferably 6 or 8. Gaz.

[Tony.OK]

Maybe the bigger bikes couldn't go that long?????

Hell i almost thought my wife had posted on here for a second :doh:

I found that the 6 lappers at Manfeild were a tad short and really enjoyed the slightly longer races, 10-15 laps. Or around 15-20 minute races.

[svr]

Lots of short races. Best racing I've had were a couple of couple `4x4' lap races back in 250 days with changing grids i.e. you just keep gridding up after a cool-down lap. Intense for riders & intersesting for spectators.
Long races generally end up being processions with people just circulating and wearing out tyres.

[Robert Taylor]

I think a alternating between meetings would be awesome, or with the two dat events that VMCC put on, run the first day like a normal race day with short races and on the second day put on say a 45 - 60 min race. that'll sort the men from the boys, and I think after my experience from taupo endurance race, the racing will be just as exciting if not more so with the added interest factor of possible pit stops and race strategies

Gotta agree with that, it adds a further dimension, including setup that will preserve the tyres.
Youve gotta meet my daughter, her looks are stunning ( just like mine ) !!!!!

[roogazza]

Gotta agree with that, it adds a further dimension, including setup that will preserve the tyres.
Youve gotta meet my daughter, her looks are stunning ( just like mine ) !!!!!

wow, thats service ! Get the ride height adjusted and be introduced to your daughter all in one. One way of screening potential son inlaws ? Gaz.

[JayRacer37]

I think a alternating between meetings would be awesome, or with the two dat events that VMCC put on, run the first day like a normal race day with short races and on the second day put on say a 45 - 60 min race. that'll sort the men from the boys, and I think after my experience from taupo endurance race, the racing will be just as exciting if not more so with the added interest factor of possible pit stops and race strategies

Yep, seconded

[Shaun]

Gotta agree with that, it adds a further dimension, including setup that will preserve the tyres.
Youve gotta meet my daughter, her looks are stunning ( just like mine ) !!!!!




ha ha, your daughter may be stunning, but U mate ha ha- Actually, her looks come from your wife! Does that mean your daughter has your attitude?

Sketchy, grab her fast mate

[Shaun P]

I think a alternating between meetings would be awesome, or with the two dat events that VMCC put on, run the first day like a normal race day with short races and on the second day put on say a 45 - 60 min race. that'll sort the men from the boys, and I think after my experience from taupo endurance race, the racing will be just as exciting if not more so with the added interest factor of possible pit stops and race strategies

Yeah the most exciting races ive watched are longer length with pitstops/rider changes, inculding that last motogp race when they changed from wet bikes to dry bikes - interesting stuff!

[wharfy]

I think a alternating between meetings would be awesome, or with the two dat events that VMCC put on, run the first day like a normal race day with short races and on the second day put on say a 45 - 60 min race. that'll sort the men from the boys, and I think after my experience from taupo endurance race, the racing will be just as exciting if not more so with the added interest factor of possible pit stops and race strategies

I'd be into that, I quite like the longer races.

[Robert Taylor]

Yeah the most exciting races ive watched are longer length with pitstops/rider changes, inculding that last motogp race when they changed from wet bikes to dry bikes - interesting stuff!

GOT IT THEN! Sprinklers on corners, turned on intermittently.

[Shaun P]

GOT IT THEN! Sprinklers on corners, turned on intermittently.

Yeah hardy ha lol but the point was it was interesting to see the tactics coming into play when to pit etc not the rain coming into play beforehand, if it was a dry race with a compulsary pit stop :done:

[roadracingoldfart]

+1 , Sprint races every time. Never was a fan of more than 10 or 15 laps, preferably 6 or 8. Gaz.


I heard you had a short span of concentration Gary .

Or was that a short burst of stamina ????


Long races are awesome and the pit stops are hard to plan safely but a huge amount of fun and can change an entire race result.

Paul.

[roogazza]

I heard you had a short span of concentration Gary .
Or was that a short burst of stamina ????

Long races are awesome and the pit stops are hard to plan safely but a huge amount of fun and can change an entire race result.
Paul.
I start praying for a flag (any flag !) after 4 or 5 laps nowdays ! I could never get into those 6 hour races, probably why I only entered a couple ? They always seemed like a fast road ride, give me 110 % effort, street meets any day.
(just a distant memory from my rocker now anyway, like you ? lol) Gaz.