DYMAGS who's used them? [Archive]

neil_cb125t

23rd May 2009, 14:29

Has anyone had the honour of racing on normal rims and then switching to DYMAGS, i heard amazing things. Just tryingto find some without having to remorgage the house!!!

chappy

koba

23rd May 2009, 14:59

Don't!
Your bikes already fast as fuck.

zxr400#150

23rd May 2009, 15:54

I 2nd Koba, Give me a f*cking chance!

Peter Smith

23rd May 2009, 15:58

Don't!
Your bikes already fast as fuck.

I agree totally, you need to slow down so you have someone to race against.:bleh:
You totally smoked Mossy and me in race 2 at Taupo.:2guns:

Teambwr47

23rd May 2009, 17:36

Dymag wheels are superb bits of kit.

Supersport 600 in the UK used to be able to use them but then the class went the route of standard wheels being required.
I had a few sets for an R1 superbike we had over there a few years back and they were great bits of kit with good support from Dymag themselves in terms of post crash checks and repair.

They were expensive in the UK so I'd imagine they're even more so here..??

svr

23rd May 2009, 18:09

They were expensive in the UK so I'd imagine they're even more so here..??

Yep.
http://www.bikehps.com/ProductFiles/DymagWheels.html
There's a bloody recession on Neil!
A few guys put zxr750H rear wheels on the 400H (er, back in the day...). Cheap as and a straight bolt-on. Then you could run 190 rears for maybe the same sort of lap time improvements as light wheels??

Sketchy_Racer

23rd May 2009, 18:20

Has anyone had the honour of racing on normal rims and then switching to DYMAGS, i heard amazing things. Just tryingto find some without having to remorgage the house!!!

chappy

Why re-mortgage the house for a rims on an old bike with very little resale?

Buy a newer bike that already has rims almost as light as Dymags and probably wont cost anything more for a whole bike than it will to buy dymags!

mossy1200

23rd May 2009, 18:50

I agree totally, you need to slow down so you have someone to race against.:bleh:
You totally smoked Mossy and me in race 2 at Taupo.:2guns:
Do it Neil you may need them.LOL:second::spanking:

neil_cb125t

24th May 2009, 09:56

I agree totally, you need to slow down so you have someone to race against.:bleh:
You totally smoked Mossy and me in race 2 at Taupo.:2guns:

Slowing down is not a option! hahaha! catch me if you can sucka!!!

there is a few more straights at manny - should give you a leg up

neil_cb125t

24th May 2009, 10:01

neil_cb125t

24th May 2009, 10:04

Yep.
http://www.bikehps.com/ProductFiles/DymagWheels.html
There's a bloody recession on Neil!
A few guys put zxr750H rear wheels on the 400H (er, back in the day...). Cheap as and a straight bolt-on. Then you could run 190 rears for maybe the same sort of lap time improvements as light wheels??

Hey cookie - yeah peps are still soing that - i have found a front only - may consider getting the rear lightened.

Recession?? really?? my credit card has been spending heaps of money.

neil_cb125t

24th May 2009, 10:11

Why re-mortgage the house for a rims on an old bike with very little resale?

Buy a newer bike that already has rims almost as light as Dymags and probably wont cost anything more for a whole bike than it will to buy dymags!

Ahh yes - its hard to weight up - developing your race bike is simply awesome. Only f3 lets you do that. Id be lucky to get 5-6k for my bucket o bolts - but i wouldn't be happy trading up unless i stepped up onto a well prepared 600 costing 12-15-1million dollars!!

R1madness

24th May 2009, 10:55

They will make a big improvement to your turn in and brakeing as well as your general handling. However there is a trade off. your bike will become more unstable due to the reduced gyroscopic effect. You will need to make major changes to your suspension setup to accomidate the reduced unsprung weight.
You will ultimately go faster but maybe the first time you try them, think about the effect it is having on your bike rather than just hammering it looking for more speed.

Sketchy_Racer

24th May 2009, 11:12

Ahh yes - its hard to weight up - developing your race bike is simply awesome. Only f3 lets you do that. Id be lucky to get 5-6k for my bucket o bolts - but i wouldn't be happy trading up unless i stepped up onto a well prepared 600 costing 12-15-1million dollars!!

Yeah fair call, I do the same i've spent hours and hours on a POS bucket racer just because I like modifying and improving it.

As an alternative to Dymags, how much lighter would a set of say GSXRR6CBRZXR 600 rims be? and that'd also give you a bigger selection in tyres. Might be a more affordable middle ground and a bit better compromise in regards to what R1madness says about the stability trade off.

bistard

24th May 2009, 11:27

Tony.OK

24th May 2009, 11:44

I had a set of Carozzeria rims on my Blade until I started racing, as others have said, very noticable difference in handling, accel etc.
One thing I didn't expect was the difference in getting off the throttle, the bike slowed way faster due to less gyroscopic weight, was like having twin type engine braking.
Took me a while to suss out what to do re susp changes but finally nutted a good setup out.
As a general rule I found that.................more rebound(slower) and less comp due to the spring needing to do less work pushing the wheel out and having less weight pushing against it.

neil_cb125t

24th May 2009, 13:06

Neill,I have a set of Marvics on my 400 & putting them on was by far the best
improvement I have done to it,turns,stops & accelerates much better,I would suggest light weight wheels & decent suspension, before chasing horsepower

AWESOME to here from a fellow 400 rider - do you mind me asking how much the set you back?? this is kinda the final frontier on my bike i always here good things about them - done ohlins front and rear, pro light discs and got pretty good power i think....... is 80hp at the rear enough:no: YOU ALWAYS Want MORE!!!!

the problem is the one ive found is its only the front - no rear.

malcy25

24th May 2009, 17:11

It's got to be a good thing if only for the more favourable unpsrung to sprung weight ratio once you have the suspension dialled in a again for that change.

Think back to 89 when the first carbon discs were used at the pointy end of a 500GP grid at Donnington by Rainey. He did it because he could make the bike turn faster down Craner Curves from the reduced gyro effect of the discs. This same effect will come through with the lighter wheel.

That and Dymags are way coool. That's the most important bit!

Sparky Bills

28th May 2009, 09:13

Loose some weight and you may go faster...
I joined the gym today... Got me a free pair of Nikes :laugh: SCORE!!

roadracingoldfart

28th May 2009, 20:42

Loose some weight and you may go faster...
I joined the gym today... Got me a free pair of Nikes :laugh: SCORE!!

Shoe's wont help if ya have to loose weight off ya ass Marty :shit::laugh:

As for that other fat bastard, he eats too good now hes gotten engaged lol.

Sparky Bills

29th May 2009, 08:41

Shoe's wont help if ya have to loose weight off ya ass Marty :shit::laugh:

As for that other fat bastard, he eats too good now hes gotten engaged lol.

Ooooooo! OUCH! (for both comments YOU BITCH!! HISS HISS SCRATCH SCRATCH!!)

codgyoleracer

29th May 2009, 08:58

Dymags .......Why would you need a set of those :rolleyes:

GSVR

29th May 2009, 12:40

Dymags are the cheap and heavy carbon wheels aren't they? The sort you go for if you can't afford BSTs.

codgyoleracer

29th May 2009, 12:49

GSVR

29th May 2009, 12:56

I agree GSVR, actually someone once told me that the way to go is to use standard wheels and fill em full of lead shot - then let the "free power" of inertia/physics do the rest........ Dont think that bloke had thought things through though.... :shit:

I could see that working but only if the suspension was eliminated (ie solid).

Why ride over bumps when you can go through them! Kinda like the theory if your heading straight for a brick wall accellerate and the momentum of the bike will carry you straight through it.

codgyoleracer

29th May 2009, 13:00

The cheapest & easiest way to speed up your steering is to add 25mm to the width of your handlebars

GSVR

29th May 2009, 13:06

The cheapest & easiest way to speed up your steering is to add 25mm to the width of your handlebars

And theres also the added benefit of being harder to pass.

roogazza

29th May 2009, 13:09

The cheapest & easiest way to speed up your steering is to add 25mm to the width of your handlebars

Haven't you got some glasshouses to sell ? Nearly popped in yesterday on the B King, but was going so fast I was well down the road by the time I remembered. Gaz.

codgyoleracer

29th May 2009, 13:13

And theres also the added benefit of being harder to pass.

Motards lead the way in this repect & you dont see to many Dymags fitted to them :eek:
And as for you mr Roogazza - my company quite likes selling glasshouses in your neighbourhood as there seems to be plenty of indivuduals throwing stones around your area.

codgyoleracer

29th May 2009, 13:15

Haven't you got some glasshouses to sell ? Nearly popped in yesterday on the B King, but was going so fast I was well down the road by the time I remembered. Gaz.

You would remember the width of an RD400's handlebars wouldnt ya ?, - not too many steering dampers used back then either aye. (of course some would argue that you were actually going fast enough to warrant them.......)
:laugh:

roogazza

29th May 2009, 13:16

Motards lead the way in this repect & you dont see to many Dymags fitted to them :eek:
And as for you mr Roogazza - my company quite likes selling glasshouses in your neighbourhood as there seems to be plenty of indivuduals throwing stones around your area.

Retirement homes ??? Gaz.

codgyoleracer

29th May 2009, 13:18

Retirement homes ??? Gaz.

Some of our best victims (oops I mean customers) live in those...............

roogazza

29th May 2009, 13:26

You would remember the width of an RD400's handlebars wouldnt ya ?, - not too many steering dampers used back then either aye. (of course some would argue that you were actually going fast enough to warrant them.......)
:laugh:
Things have moved on a bit from 40 hp huh ? I need 175 just to cart my carcass nowdays Gaz.
ps come to think of it RD's didn't waggle much or have I forgotten ?

svr

29th May 2009, 18:13

I agree GSVR, actually someone once told me that the way to go is to use standard wheels and fill em full of lead shot - then let the "free power" of inertia/physics do the rest........ Dont think that bloke had thought things through though.... :shit:

In bicycle racing wheel weight is a hot topic - and the fashion changes about once every 10 yrs! World records have been set with riders proclaiming the benefits of their trick heavy OR light wheels...

I'm a light wheels guy tho, so I'll swap Codgey my standards for his carbon Dymags and even throw in my wide handlebars (= fast handling - best kept secret...).

roadracingoldfart

29th May 2009, 18:53

You would remember the width of an RD400's handlebars wouldnt ya ?, - not too many steering dampers used back then either aye. (of course some would argue that you were actually going fast enough to warrant them.......)
:laugh:

You just watch out there young fella !!! :no: respect the experiance aye Gaz.

Things have moved on a bit from 40 hp huh ? I need 175 just to cart my carcass nowdays Gaz.
ps come to think of it RD's didn't waggle much or have I forgotten ?

RDs never waggled , they weaved and fell over alot. Then they gave us the RZ and they just fell over more often at a much faster rate :confused:

mossy1200

29th May 2009, 19:20

In bicycle racing wheel weight is a hot topic - and the fashion changes about once every 10 yrs! World records have been set with riders proclaiming the benefits of their trick heavy OR light wheels...

I'm a light wheels guy tho, so I'll swap Codgey my standards for his carbon Dymags and even throw in my wide handlebars (= fast handling - best kept secret...).

Neil cant run carbon wheels in posties so assume they have ally wheels also.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=220627722
The rear is 18inch but assume this is the style your after

SS90

2nd June 2009, 04:53

My experience with lighter wheels was with my old Honda 95 RS125.....

while you have to be careful when you you put expensive (brand named) parts onto your bike (avoiding the "placebo effect", that usually comes with such items) is that lighter wheels really do make a difference, and when you get the set up of your suspension correct it is like "night and day"

I found (after set up changes) the bike turned in easier, held it's line "stronger" on bumpy tracks (like "mighty MINEfield,...... sorry..... Manfield)
as well as was easier to turn in on the brakes.

To test this, I changed back to standard rims on a practice, and it handled like a 1985 GSXR 750 "slab side"...with flat tyres........
Worth their weight (in my opinion)