MNZ Election Results

[Rcktfsh]

Does anyone know the results of voting?

[cowpoos]

good point...should have been anounced yesterday??

[Shaun]

JIM TUCKERMAN IS THE WINNER 100%



Thanks for the past Sandra

[Rcktfsh]

JIM TUCKERMAN IS THE WINNER 100%



Thanks for the past Sandra

is that official shaun? do you know what the numbers were?

[Maido]

Congrats Jim!
Way to make you votes count people!

[Shaun]

is that official shaun? do you know what the numbers were?



YES IT IS MATE, Just spoke to Jim Direct before posting

No idea's on numbers mate, I am not concerned with that, just the future thanks

[Tony.OK]

Good stuff..............................Now Jim, no pressure but make our votes count aye!! :msn-wink:

Great to see a plan come into fruition..................KB has some influence.

Congrats Jim:clap:

[Shaun]

Thanks for the commitment Jim

[Hitcher]

That's a bit obscure, Shaun?

[sidecar bob]

That's a bit obscure, Shaun?

Its not really. Welcome Jim.

[The Chow]

Good stuff..............................Now Jim, no pressure but make our votes count aye!! :msn-wink:

Great to see a plan come into fruition..................KB has some influence.

Congrats Jim:clap:

JT 186
sandra perry 129

Board
Carmen Davidson
Kevin Goddard
Dave Craig
Trevor Heaphy

Less than 10% off licence holders voted!!!!!:weep:

[cowpoos]

Less than 10% off licence holders voted!!!!!:weep:

what percentage of voter got thier packs??


Well done Jim Tuckerman.
I hope you repay the majority's faith in you. :niceone:

[Kickaha]

what percentage of voter got thier packs??


Good point if I hadn't seen it on here I wouldn't have realised it was on, I had to contact MNZ to get one sent to me

[wharfy]

JT 186
sandra perry 129

Board
Carmen Davidson
Kevin Goddard
Dave Craig
Trevor Heaphy

Less than 10% off licence holders voted!!!!!:weep:

+ about 30 "informal" votes pretty low turn out from over 5000 members.
I have no clue how many people did/did not get voting packs but I have trouble believing only 350 odd did.
I thought the AGM was very subdued considering all the stuff that has been on this and other web sites.
A lot of clubs didn't have a delegate there.


:whocares:

Not many it apparently.... :(

[Shaun]

+ about 30 "informal" votes pretty low turn out from over 5000 members.
I have no clue how many people did/did not get voting packs but I have trouble believing only 350 odd did.
I thought the AGM was very subdued considering all the stuff that has been on this and other web sites.
A lot of clubs didn't have a delegate there.


:whocares:

Not many it apparently.... :(

]
Sadly, I have said it before:soon:

It is the riders apathy, that is the real problem in "general".

These numbers PROVE how much the general racer cares/follows/contributes, to the sport, but loves to winge!

I know there are many on here who DO some thing, and that is probally the total of the votes:stupid:

[tas152]

+ about 30 "informal" votes pretty low turn out from over 5000 members.
I have no clue how many people did/did not get voting packs but I have trouble believing only 350 odd did.
I thought the AGM was very subdued considering all the stuff that has been on this and other web sites.
A lot of clubs didn't have a delegate there.


:whocares:

Not many it apparently.... :(

The very low number of members who vote (or even care what happens) is not unusal from my and my wifes experiences of being involved in clubs. I believe the vast majority of members of mnz are only members because they HAVE to be to compete in motorcycle events - that's reality.

I'll even fess up and state that I have't taken an interest myself up until recently :spanking: - and I got my first race licence (for mx) in 1974 :eek: BUT it's not too late to change :soon:

[Tony.OK]

I wonder how different the #'s might be if they included a postage paid return envelope?
Make it easy and free and lazy people may bother to vote.

[cowpoos]

I wonder how different the #'s might be if they included a postage paid return envelope?
Make it easy and free and lazy people may bother to vote.
like voting online?

[scrivy]

Not meaning to throw cold water on Jims appointment for fellow KBers, but how will the current MNZ members that do not get on with Jim cope now?
:no:

[Maarty]

]
Sadly, I have said it before:soon:

It is the riders apathy, that is the real problem in "general".

These numbers PROVE how much the general racer cares/follows/contributes, to the sport, but loves to winge!

I know there are many on here who DO some thing, and that is probally the total of the votes:stupid:

Shaun, I was there and not not many that said they were going to be there bothered to turn up, I think you will find that that most still didn't vote and will still be equally audable when the new rules don't suit their agends. You know I am right!
That said, what is done is done and now it remains to be seen if Jim can keep himself in check and work for the good of the sport!
Lastly, Trevor Heaphy resigned immediatly post vote count! Don't lets all jump and down just yet as I see this as being just the start of a war noone is going win, personality and emotion are to the fore now!

[roadracingoldfart]

]
Sadly, I have said it before:soon:

It is the riders apathy, that is the real problem in "general".

These numbers PROVE how much the general racer cares/follows/contributes, to the sport, but loves to winge!

I know there are many on here who DO some thing, and that is probally the total of the votes:stupid:


Thats possibly a bit harsh Shaun. Most club racers dont have a clue who the people at MNZ are or what they stand for , and they dont even know what MNZ actually offers to them apart from a race licence.
Thats not ignorance either , its a result of a totally pathetic , badly promoted governing body that takes money from members every year and tells them unless they pay they cant race.
We are all to blame i guess for not getting involved but really , the only people that most races want to contact are comittee members of the club that runs the series they race in. MNZ NEVER gets off its ass and comes to any club series i have ever been to and had a tent with a few officials to explain what they do and how they help , organise etc events for ANY racer. Maybe if they did do that a few more respectfull comments would be directed at them.
To say general races winge and moan is really unfair if the organisation asking for support hides behind a name and a box number in Huntly.

There is a challenge for Mr Tuckerman. Come see the races at the track and talk to the masses at the coal face. Not just the " A " listers , the whole lot of us.

Paul.

[That Guy]

Thats possibly a bit harsh Shaun. Most club racers dont have a clue who the people at MNZ are or what they stand for , and they dont even know what MNZ actually offers to them apart from a race licence.
Thats not ignorance either , its a result of a totally pathetic , badly promoted governing body that takes money from members every year and tells them unless they pay they cant race.
We are all to blame i guess for not getting involved but really , the only people that most races want to contact are comittee members of the club that runs the series they race in. MNZ NEVER gets off its ass and comes to any club series i have ever been to and had a tent with a few officials to explain what they do and how they help , organise etc events for ANY racer. Maybe if they did do that a few more respectfull comments would be directed at them.
To say general races winge and moan is really unfair if the organisation asking for support hides behind a name and a box number in Huntly.

There is a challenge for Mr Tuckerman. Come see the races at the track and talk to the masses at the coal face. Not just the " A " listers , the whole lot of us.

Paul.

I agree. Other than having to get a licence and providing some administration, MNZ does nothing for my racing. "My" racing is local club stuff. I help out at the local club to bang in pegs at motocross tracks or marshalling at club road racing when I'm not on the bike, and help get beginners into the sport - so I don't consider myself to be a sponge on bike racing, or apathetic. I have even worked professionally in the sport so have seen both ends of the spectrum. For me, MNZ is nowhere to be seen for a club racer like me - I know who my local club committee members are and I help them, but I have no idea who Jim or Sandra are as people so I don't have a point of view - which is possibly the same for the 4000 odd who didn't vote.

[Billy]

Thats possibly a bit harsh Shaun. Most club racers dont have a clue who the people at MNZ are or what they stand for , and they dont even know what MNZ actually offers to them apart from a race licence.
Thats not ignorance either , its a result of a totally pathetic , badly promoted governing body that takes money from members every year and tells them unless they pay they cant race.
We are all to blame i guess for not getting involved but really , the only people that most races want to contact are comittee members of the club that runs the series they race in. MNZ NEVER gets off its ass and comes to any club series i have ever been to and had a tent with a few officials to explain what they do and how they help , organise etc events for ANY racer. Maybe if they did do that a few more respectfull comments would be directed at them.
To say general races winge and moan is really unfair if the organisation asking for support hides behind a name and a box number in Huntly.

There is a challenge for Mr Tuckerman. Come see the races at the track and talk to the masses at the coal face. Not just the " A " listers , the whole lot of us.

Paul.

Actually Paul,And this isnt directed at you personally,The club racers you refer to are as much too blame for the mess we have at the moment as MNZ are,After all its a two way street and if the members require more info on MNZ they can visit the website for more contact details.In fact I think if MNZ are too blame for anything,Its the fact they make it far to easy to get a licence.For a start you should have to sit a test of some sort before you can race,Thay way we will know the riders have atleast read SOME of the rules,As it stands now its not uncommon too hear someone asking in the middle of a racemeeting what some of the flags mean or if they should still have antifreeze in their radiator and its not the so called "A" listers that are asking these questions.For the record Jim has been at atleast 1 round of the last 2 Actrix series and been around talking too the masses,However its not possible for him to catch up with everybody in 1 day,Might be your turn this year

[codgyoleracer]

like voting online?

Theres the answer, makes it easy to send out, easy to send reminders & easy to respond to - takes care of at least some of the lethargy of ppl actually needing to put a stamp on an envelope......

[scrivy]

but how will the current mnz members that do not get on with jim cope now?
:no:


1: Trevor heaphy resigned immediatly post vote count!

2: ?
3: ?
..........

[sidecar bob]

Theres the answer, makes it eady to send out, easy to send reminders & easy to respond to - takes care of at least some of the lethargy of ppl actually needing to put a stamp on an envelope......

Just a simple Email with a link wudda helped us computer semi illiterate types.

[wharfy]

Not meaning to throw cold water on Jims appointment for fellow KBers, but how will the current MNZ members that do not get on with Jim cope now?
:no:

The same way the ones that didn't like the previous president did I guess, vent their spleen on KiwiBiker It is probably therapeutic and certainly cheaper than getting counseling :)

[Rcktfsh]

2: ?
3: ?
..........

feeling ignored????
Just because its large , grey has a trunk and is standing in the corner does it really mean theres an elephant in the room scrivvy?

[ArcherWC]

Thats possibly a bit harsh Shaun. Most club racers dont have a clue who the people at MNZ are or what they stand for , and they dont even know what MNZ actually offers to them apart from a race licence.
Thats not ignorance either , its a result of a totally pathetic , badly promoted governing body that takes money from members every year and tells them unless they pay they cant race.
We are all to blame i guess for not getting involved but really , the only people that most races want to contact are comittee members of the club that runs the series they race in. MNZ NEVER gets off its ass and comes to any club series i have ever been to and had a tent with a few officials to explain what they do and how they help , organise etc events for ANY racer. Maybe if they did do that a few more respectfull comments would be directed at them.
To say general races winge and moan is really unfair if the organisation asking for support hides behind a name and a box number in Huntly.

There is a challenge for Mr Tuckerman. Come see the races at the track and talk to the masses at the coal face. Not just the " A " listers , the whole lot of us.

Paul.

As a club MX and road racer, I absoultly agree with this.
Also making the voting easier (ie online) would make a difference as well.

[ArcherWC]

feeling ignored????
Just because its large , grey has a trunk and is standing in the corner does it really mean theres an elephant in the room scrivvy?
that depends on if it shits on ya

[tas152]

Actually Paul,And this isnt directed at you personally,The club racers you refer to are as much too blame for the mess we have at the moment as MNZ are,After all its a two way street and if the members require more info on MNZ they can visit the website for more contact details.In fact I think if MNZ are too blame for anything,Its the fact they make it far to easy to get a licence.For a start you should have to sit a test of some sort before you can race,Thay way we will know the riders have atleast read SOME of the rules,As it stands now its not uncommon too hear someone asking in the middle of a racemeeting what some of the flags mean or if they should still have antifreeze in their radiator and its not the so called "A" listers that are asking these questions.For the record Jim has been at atleast 1 round of the last 2 Actrix series and been around talking too the masses,However its not possible for him to catch up with everybody in 1 day,Might be your turn this year


Well said Billy, I'm with you on this one...

According to the mnz Annual report 68 clubs held 751 events last year - Is it really expected of the VOLUNTEER board members of mnz to visit all these events to "educate" the members. What would the travel and accommodation costs amount to???? How much of their private lives are they expected to be dedicated to mnz????

The mnz web site is a good resource for ALL mnz members to find out about motorcycle competition in NZ and there are other sites like KB etc...

The real solution is for people to ...... oh never mind :doh:

[scott411]

As a club MX and road racer, I absoultly agree with this.
Also making the voting easier (ie online) would make a difference as well.

although the current voting system sucks because of the apathy of the majority,

can i ask what is so hard about ticking a box and posting a letter,

[wharfy]

that depends on if it shits on ya

It's not as bad as it sounds (actually it sounds like a "thud").
Once upon a time I worked in a circus as a tent hand/ring waiter/cook/driver and part of the elephant act was getting the tent hands to lie on the ground and have the elephant step over them.
There was always a rush to get the middle position as the guys on the end sometimes got a nudge as the elephant "felt" the beginning and end of the line with her foot. But if she did a crap it didn't matter where you were in the line you copped some !!! ( Oh yeah, the crowd loved it too ) Luckily elephant crap is like horse crap, nice round "buns" not like the evil green squirt from cows.

:Offtopic: Umm I guess this is about as far of topic as you can get, but hey this is KiwiBiker :laugh:

[KS34]

To be perfectly honest, and I know I can be a bit thick sometimes but I didnt vote last time because it was all too confusing. Not sure if this years was easier to work out or after reading a heap of threads on here regarding what was what I cottoned on, or maybe I'm just getting smarter as I get older. What the answer is I think is if you keep your head in the sand all you see is sand!

[wharfy]

To be perfectly honest, and I know I can be a bit thick sometimes but I didnt vote last time because it was all too confusing. Not sure if this years was easier to work out or after reading a heap of threads on here regarding what was what I cottoned on, or maybe I'm just getting smarter as I get older. What the answer is I think is if you keep your head in the sand all you see is sand!

Wharfy's health tip of the day - if youve got your head in the sand DON'T open your eyes :)

[roadracingoldfart]

Actually Paul,And this isnt directed at you personally,The club racers you refer to are as much too blame for the mess we have at the moment as MNZ are,After all its a two way street and if the members require more info on MNZ they can visit the website for more contact details.In fact I think if MNZ are too blame for anything,Its the fact they make it far to easy to get a licence.For a start you should have to sit a test of some sort before you can race,Thay way we will know the riders have atleast read SOME of the rules,As it stands now its not uncommon too hear someone asking in the middle of a racemeeting what some of the flags mean or if they should still have antifreeze in their radiator and its not the so called "A" listers that are asking these questions.For the record Jim has been at atleast 1 round of the last 2 Actrix series and been around talking too the masses,However its not possible for him to catch up with everybody in 1 day,Might be your turn this year

Shit yer Billy , i hear you about the easyness to get a comp licence . I had to do D , C , B , and then ACU pissed off and i never got to A lol.
It was structured for a very good reason and i believe it made the racing closer as a result.
As for the visit to the track , well i still would like to see an actuall stand / tent to go and see the poeple that make our sports rules etc , just as we all like to meet K.B. members to put a name to a face. I bet most people on K.B. have never met Jim T and therefore still have the "invisible " image of the man.
Yes i hope he does well in the role but fuck hes got his work cut out for a start and then as the job progresses then the std motorcycle , "ahh whatever " will make it even worse / harder.
MNZ still have to make thier faces familiar with the paying members in my opinion (which is fuck all i know) I want this sport to grow , i retired to help make that happen and i believe it can with the correct help / attitude from members and MNZ.

Paul.

[BJT666]

Good morning All,

Sorry it has taken a couple of days to POST, but I travelled to Wellington by car and the weather hasn't been that great.

I would like to thank everyone who Supported me in this election and those who have made contact with Congratulations messages.

The Voter turn out was not great but it was 50% Greater than last year, even with the problems.

There will be some who will not like the result, but we live in a democracy and I am sure those ELECTED are FULLY COMMITTED to moving OUR SPORT FORWARD.

As President I will be encouraging the BOARD to become as VISIBLE as possible.

[roadracingoldfart]

Good morning All,

Sorry it has taken a couple of days to POST, but I travelled to Wellington by car and the weather hasn't been that great.

I would like to thank everyone who Supported me in this election and those who have made contact with Congratulations messages.

The Voter turn out was not great but it was 50% Greater than last year, even with the problems.

There will be some who will not like the result, but we live in a democracy and I am sure those ELECTED are FULLY COMMITTED to moving OUR SPORT FORWARD.

As President I will be encouraging the BOARD to become as VISIBLE as possible.

What do you mean ????
Bad weather in Welly !!! :laugh: :shit:
Unless there is pics i wont accept there was anything but sun
Well thats Kapiti area anyhow .<_<

All the best Jim.

Paul.

[scott411]

interesting devolpment, seems there have been a few resignations already from some postions,

taken from MNZ website at 4.10pm

Board

President: Jim Tuckerman
Off Road North Island : Carmen Davidson
Off Road South Island: Dave Craig
Road North Island: Vacant Position - Was Trevor Heaphy
Road South Island: Kevin Goddard

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Sporting Commissioners
ATV Wade Taylor
Cross Country Murray Searle
Enduro Gary Powell
Junior Sport Bryan Davidson
Motocross Michael McLeod
Road Race Vacant Position -It was known Paul was going anyway-
Safety Murray Perry
Speedway Vacant Position
Stewards Vacant Position - Was Warren New
Trail Ride Paul Searancke
Trials Jim Henderson

[scrivy]

2: ?
3: ?
..........

Writing was on the wall......

So....... er, does this now mean a special AGM is necessary??

[FROSTY]

Don't want to shit stir here. But just what percentage of MNZ licence holders diddn't recieve their voting papers??
Kiwibiker isn't the world so if I diddn't know I was soposed to get em I wouldn't be expecting em and wouldnt be thinking I needed to vote ....

[bigmac12]

Hi All also add to the list Murray Perry one of the most experienced and professional stewards and people I have had the pleasure to be advised, guided and mentored by. Safety Commisioner and member of the Appeals Board, experience we as racers and administrators fo clubs and our sport, can ill afford to have undermined and eroded from our sport.

Dont get me started on what WE are all losing out on as far as Trevor Heaphy and Warren New are concerned.

[Robert Taylor]

Hi All also add to the list Murray Perry one of the most experienced and professional stewards and people I have had the pleasure to be advised, guided and mentored by. Safety Commisioner and member of the Appeals Board, experience we as racers and administrators fo clubs and our sport, can ill afford to have undermined and eroded from our sport.

Dont get me started on what WE are all losing out on as far as Trevor Heaphy and Warren New are concerned.

I dont balme those guys just in the strict sense that theyve done a thankless job for so many years anyway, probably sick of it, as was Paul Stewart.
Jim will be able to assemble some good people around him.

[roadracingoldfart]

Don't want to shit stir here. But just what percentage of MNZ licence holders diddn't recieve their voting papers??
Kiwibiker isn't the world so if I diddn't know I was soposed to get em I wouldn't be expecting em and wouldnt be thinking I needed to vote ....


I can assure you Tony , none of us non members got a voting pack.:no:

[roadracingoldfart]

I dont balme those guys just in the strict sense that theyve done a thankless job for so many years anyway, probably sick of it, as was Paul Stewart.
Jim will be able to assemble some good people around him.


Was that your hand i saw reaching for the sky Robert ???

[scrivy]

I dont balme those guys just in the strict sense that theyve done a thankless job for so many years anyway, probably sick of it, as was Paul Stewart.

I don't blame them either........ don't quite know what balming is...... :laugh:

[Robert Taylor]

Was that your hand i saw reaching for the sky Robert ???

No, it would be inappropriate for a current commercial supplier as it would be a conflict of interest. And being outspoken doesnt help!

[roadracingoldfart]

No, it would be inappropriate for a current commercial supplier as it would be a conflict of interest. And being outspoken doesnt help!


I can just see you havin a go at it , nahhhh maybe your rite.

[scrivy]

No, it would be inappropriate for a current commercial supplier as it would be a conflict of interest. And being outspoken doesnt help!

I can see a few conflicts of interest there already..................

[suzuki mama]

Hi All also add to the list Murray Perry one of the most experienced and professional stewards and people I have had the pleasure to be advised, guided and mentored by. Safety Commisioner and member of the Appeals Board, experience we as racers and administrators fo clubs and our sport, can ill afford to have undermined and eroded from our sport.

Dont get me started on what WE are all losing out on as far as Trevor Heaphy and Warren New are concerned.

Dont get me started on the lack of professionalism showed by at least 2 of these gentlemen at the AGM,

REMINISCENT OF THROWING ONES TOYS OUT OF THE COT METHINKS
the point is the sport has to move on ,all the experience in the world doesnt help when the people with it refuse to listen to their customer base,
things have not been right for some time and the actions of these few show how entrenched the purple circle thought they were.
Wake up and smell the roses people,
what motorcycling gains with there departure will more than make up for the temporary loss of these people
if they genuinely had the best interests of the sport at heart they would be staying to assist with their expertise, instead they are obviously hoping the new board wont cope.
However people you are dreaming, the board will not only cope just fine , i feel we are in for a revitalised MNZ and one where there is a more open and transparent method of operation

[cowpoos]

I can see a few conflicts of interest there already..................
you need a new avatar...current one is getting boring!!

[Robert Taylor]

Sorry....never been to good with analogies...what are you trying to say???

Well whaever he is intimating Jim has like the National Government inherited a poisoned chalice.

[bigmac12]

Dont get me started on the lack of professionalism showed by at least 2 of these gentlemen at the AGM,

REMINISCENT OF THROWING ONES TOYS OUT OF THE COT METHINKS
the point is the sport has to move on ,all the experience in the world doesnt help when the people with it refuse to listen to their customer base,
things have not been right for some time and the actions of these few show how entrenched the purple circle thought they were.
Wake up and smell the roses people,
what motorcycling gains with there departure will more than make up for the temporary loss of these people
if they genuinely had the best interests of the sport at heart they would be staying to assist with their expertise, instead they are obviously hoping the new board wont cope.
However people you are dreaming, the board will not only cope just fine , i feel we are in for a revitalised MNZ and one where there is a more open and transparent method of operation


Mmmm not sure if "Throwing ones toys out of the Cot" is the correct turn of phrase here (c*th), I suspect it is a number of relatively sane clear minded people making a choice as to how they use the hours in the day and what they are prepared to expose themselves too.

So moving forward. if all the above is true we can expect to see a clear and distinct plan in the very near future for the new "revitalised MNZ" obviously communicated regularily by the more "open and transparent method of operation"

Perhaps some of the first things addressed should be the fact that a large precentage of the MNZ Road Race competitiors (ie North Island based) now have no direct and equitable representation on the board of governence. This of course can be addressed by SGM at great expense or by leaving the position vacant.

Next cab of the rank could be a rethink of the current voting system which by the stunning response of members is apathetic at best.

Looking forward to seeing "The Plan" and the board ... while coping fine, execute it.

[scracha]

The mnz web site is a good resource for ALL mnz members to find out about motorcycle competition in NZ and there are other sites like KB etc...


The MNZ is probably one of the worst designed websites with the most confusing user interface I've ever seen. Try finding road racing events over the following calendar year on it.



can i ask what is so hard about ticking a box and posting a letter,
It costs both MNZ and the voter unnecessary time and money. Many members didn't get the letter.



Summit a bit condescending

What man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?

[suzuki mama]

Mmmm not sure if "Throwing ones toys out of the Cot" is the correct turn of phrase here (c*th), I suspect it is a number of relatively sane clear minded people making a choice...

we are all impressed that within hours of losing at least 2 new contributors joined this forum and very anti change they are to.

Sane probably there is a very loose definition of insanity in this country but to me more like the gravy train has come to an abrupt holt , amazing that you werent so prominent on this site till post election,

in speaking to some of new board members they have been made aware of more problem areas than even they were aware of, so the poisoned chalice is exactly whats been inherited.

One thing we can all rely on , the new board is focused on finding out what has gone on and fixing it.

to save a crop you have to get rid of rotton fruit and severe pruning may well go on
I would suggest that a few are praying fervently right now but bjt wont be one of them
He and the board will be to busy fixing the monumental cock ups , and making the sport more acessible and open to everyone but perhaps the person who posted the original quote is to busy trying to light a fire storm to notice

[FROSTY]

we are all impressed that within hours of losing at least 2 new contributors joined this forum and very anti change they are to.

Actually Suzuki Mama its been noticed that SEVERAL new profiles have actually cropped up in the last few weeks YOURS INCLUDED.
Perhaps we should talk to MT and Spank and create a new forum titled MNZ politics.

[Billy]

Mmmm not sure if "Throwing ones toys out of the Cot" is the correct turn of phrase here (c*th), I suspect it is a number of relatively sane clear minded people making a choice as to how they use the hours in the day and what they are prepared to expose themselves too.



Throwing ones toys out of the cot or whatever you may call it.This is not the first time Trevor Heaphy has pulled this stunt at an AGM.Theres no doubting these people have done some excellent work within MNZ,But if they can throw the towel in that quickly when things dont go their way then maybe its time they moved on anyway.I have a HUGE amount of respect and admiration for the work Mo and Sandra Perry have done for the sport and have NO doubt in my mind MNZ/ACU would have fallen over many moons ago without them.I fully understand Mo would resign if Sandra was voted out and I wish them all the best in their new life without the trials and tribulations of MNZ.THANK YOU Mo and Sandra

[Shaun]

So trevor Heaphy and Warren New both Quit

Shit hot I say

[wharfy]

So trevor Heaphy and Warren New both Quit

Shit hot I say

Don't hold back mate say what you really mean :)

[Robert Taylor]

Wait for a very BIG bombshell that will have HUGE impact.

[Job]

Wonder what the big impact might be...a meteor? Seems like a meteor took out Isaiah last night. Did someone not like what Isaiah said?

[Robert Taylor]

Wonder what the big impact might be...a meteor? Seems like a meteor took out Isaiah last night. Did someone not like what Isaiah said?

Isaiha is not even on the radar screen!

Nothing further to be divulged but suffice to say

1) They were warned and 2) the blame can almost entirely laid at the feet of one person.

But there are also a lot of positives.

[budda]

Wait for a very BIG bombshell that will have HUGE impact.

I'm not planning on going ANYWHERE Doc !!!!!!!!

[burtsidecar16]

it seems to be like the new zealand government buggar all people vote but they all like to moan ,lets do what shaun said and get on with the future

[Rcktfsh]

........ don't quite know what balming is...... :laugh:


Being taranaki i suspect it might be a back up plan for when your sisters otherwise engaged but due to a death in the family a cadaver is going to waste?

[Sparky Bills]

So what now?

[Cajun]

Wonder what the big impact might be...a meteor? Seems like a meteor took out Isaiah last night. Did someone not like what Isaiah said?

No the user was not banned just the post they made moved by to pd, as the posts had nothing to do with MNZ Elections. and it also seams they are trying to hide who they acutally are, as are you.

I am not a meteor but a Moderator of this site.

[scott411]

the post had observations to do with the election, it was just so cryptic that most people would have had no idea what it was trying to imply.

but along with Isiah, alot of people under there own name or screen names are spreading rumours or jsut shit, and it is doing nothing to help the sport of motorcycle racing move forward, the people made their choices and the few voted, some people did not want to work under the old regiem, thats there choice as it is for the people that do not want to work under the new one,

lets move on, and get back racing and moving in one direction.

[Shaun]

the post had observations to do with the election, it was just so cryptic that most people would have had no idea what it was trying to imply.

but along with Isiah, alot of people under there own name or screen names are spreading rumours or jsut shit, and it is doing nothing to help the sport of motorcycle racing move forward, the people made their choices and the few voted, some people did not want to work under the old regiem, thats there choice as it is for the people that do not want to work under the new one,

lets move on, and get back racing and moving in one direction.


SCOTT, would you stand for Road Race Commisioner?

Like your posts and attitude

[Shaun]

Don't hold back mate say what you really mean :)



I am NOT a racer any longer, SO CANNOT loose my license for telling the truth!

i HAVE no TIME FOR PRE MA DONNA'S:2guns:

[scott411]

SCOTT, would you stand for Road Race Commisioner?

Like your posts and attitude

not really my post i think, i am more a off road racer at heart so it would not be in the best interests of road racers to have me there, and i am busy enough being president of a motorcycle club anyway, and i am not sure if i could handle everybody wanting my blood online when i make a call they do not like.

[koba]

So what now?

Good question...

Anyone?

[Kevin G]

Good question...

Anyone?

Good question. Those board members that are left (or new in my case) have to pick up the pieces and look forward rather than dwelling on what has happened.
Without doubt it will not be easy and most likely not all of the people will be happy all of the time.
There are lots of things in need of attention but we all have to work for a living as well so some will take time. Sorry no magic wands. Best way to speed up things is get involved, become part of the solution, hell you might even enjoy it!

Kevin Goddard

[Job]

Scott you say it perfectly about not handling everybody wanting your blood online and Kevin you're great encouraging one to get involved and become part of the solution.
The trouble I see, as Job always does, is that it doesn't happen this way and never will when you've got punters on forums such as this wanting blood online of the administrators of the sport - those that have left since the weekend and those that have stayed. Those that give their all to the sport for all the right reasons.
And Scott, you're right that Revelations was too cryptic for most. It takes an intelligent person to understand cryptic.

[roadracingoldfart]

When an election takes place (even if members choose to not vote ) there is a result and thats something that has to be accepted and in most cases welcomed.
When the result is not what was expected is it a natural reaction to just bash the winners , the organisation they previously stood proud for and then get all the other non-elected friends to join a bloody internet forum and blissfully bash the winners and the establishment collectivly ? It seems the answer is yes.

The only outcome i can see to that is angst amoungst the easily swayed and a fucking great mess with bullshit flowing for the legitamate elected representatives to try and sort out , as well as the deepening and widening membership operational areas already evident.

In my opinion it is so obvious all these new members with such loud opinions and intimate knowledge have to be associated in some way with MNZ either formally or socially so why ohh why do they want to destroy the hard work they are supposidly meant to have done within MNZ ? did it mean nothing more than a ladder climbing excersise to them ?

I started racing in 1982, although i no longer race myself im still associated with road racing in NZ by running a team and i always will while i am able , but this kind of crap will not help to get new members to start committing to the cause.

Thats my 2 cents worth anyhow ,

Paul Martindale , Team Shower Buddy Racing

[fossil]

Good question. Those board members that are left (or new in my case) have to pick up the pieces and look forward rather than dwelling on what has happened.
Without doubt it will not be easy and most likely not all of the people will be happy all of the time.
There are lots of things in need of attention but we all have to work for a living as well so some will take time. Sorry no magic wands. Best way to speed up things is get involved, become part of the solution, hell you might even enjoy it!

Kevin Goddard

Well said Kevin.
To all those that were so disillusioned and critical before the election, now is your opportunity to be part of the solutions NOT part of the problems.
Give this group a chance, they haven't even been there a week. It takes a special type of person to put their name forward when so much negativity was apparent. They deserve our support and those of us who asked for change would be a bunch of hypocrites if we don't.

[TeamDS4]

Good morning All,

Sorry it has taken a couple of days to POST, but I travelled to Wellington by car and the weather hasn't been that great.

I would like to thank everyone who Supported me in this election and those who have made contact with Congratulations messages.

The Voter turn out was not great but it was 50% Greater than last year, even with the problems.

There will be some who will not like the result, but we live in a democracy and I am sure those ELECTED are FULLY COMMITTED to moving OUR SPORT FORWARD.

As President I will be encouraging the BOARD to become as VISIBLE as possible.


Lev 13:32: And in the seventh day the priest shall look on the plague: and, behold, [if] the scall spread not, and there be in it no yellow hair, and the scall [be] not in sight deeper than the skin;

[cowpoos]

Lev 13:32: And in the seventh day the priest shall look on the plague: and, behold, [if] the scall spread not, and there be in it no yellow hair, and the scall [be] not in sight deeper than the skin;
mikey...be awhile between alter egos!! lol

[short shins]

mikey...be awhile between alter egos!! lol

Not me... I'm not known as a Mikey:innocent:

When is the new CEO write up something on the MNZ website I note Pual pvas still on.

[Robert Taylor]

Not me... I'm not known as a Mikey:innocent:

When is the new CEO write up something on the MNZ website I note Pual pvas still on.

MNZ dont have a new CEO, they have a new President and board.

[short shins]

MNZ dont have a new CEO, they have a new President and board.

My bad...:Oops: