Next BIG Protest with StoneY and the Unions

Published on 25th January 2010 10:44

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Ok everyone
I have had a few people mention there is no defined thread for the NEXT PROTEST

I have sevreal Unions on board for a big march on Parliament, and the wheels are starting to roll
Dates set for 16th February, at this point its a logical date as the Corrections Union are having a march the week before, and some other group have one the week after so we get a finite window of oppotunity to pull this off.

I have requested permission from the Speaker to enter the grounds en-masse on 16th February.

This is about more than just Bikers but we want to have a strong presence there.

I need about 3-400 bikers to attend on the day and make a visible presence at the front of the house, but this time speakers will all be Unionists and Academics and other disafeccted groups (is that the right term?)

Its gonna take some work to pull it off again, and I am hoping we get the same support we got last time for the BIKEOI, but wont hold my breath.

Anyone keen to help, PM me
And I aint talking about handing out fliers, I mean WORK and responsibility for some of the organisation...(nearly killed myself the last time with exhaustion.)

This iwll be along the same lines as the BIKEOI, peacefull but a strong message
Want loads of signs, banners, and a good chant, one I think we have heard before, LOL

StoneY

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Fatt Max - 8th February 2010, 10:20
Originally Posted by riffer

You could be right there Brent. I was reading the threads while eating toast and having coffee (late start) and got a bit wound up. Not difficult. I'm just a tad passionate about this subject.

Fuking bang on mate, the more I get clued up, the more pasionate I get about the whole thing myself.

I CANNOT WAIT to get down there on the 16th and support you guys, you are fecking legends for fighting this fight. Fizzing like fuck me....

'1000's with one voice", let 'em fucking have it guys......

StoneY - 8th February 2010, 10:28
Originally Posted by sunhuntin

if parking on the cenotaph is a possibility, would there be a way to restrict it to modern bikes? i remember last year, not on the bikoi, but some other protest, someone leaked oil all over it which basically put a black mark against the whole event.

During the Ulysses rally of 31st Oct, many (including me nad the 10 who rode in with me) parked on the paving there, and some had leaks.
I saw one guy actually fixing his bike and the fix spilled some fluids, carburettor gas and some white mikly crap...wont name n shame but he was a KBer

I personally hit every spot there with a can of Brakekleen (Thanks StoneY for cleaning it up for us...sure Ulysses no prob) heheheh (stir it up lmfao)
Rain has done the rest since but yes as a result...its a 'no go zone'

BUT...as its a public 'park' and a official speakers corner under local bylaw (means you can soapbox there any given time) no one can actually STOP you being there there legally......
If we run out of room, I can see it opening up...BUT thats over 900 bikes before it needs happen...I counted last time.

StoneY - 8th February 2010, 10:31
Originally Posted by StoneY

OK MARSHALLS

on the day anyone willing, able and capable, be there at parliament between 9-30 and 10 am to be vested up, and you WILL be given duties

BIKERS are simply monitoring the Parking at Molesworth, and protecting Cenotaph Paving (untill there is no room left sssshhhhhh)

We also watch the gates, NO vehicles past the gates at all, only foot traffic

Its THAT simple, in fact so simple I cant even see a need for Radio's this time....a decent briefing and a few key people from last round who know the score should suffice

I have some big fellah's allready in the Marshal squads, they were last time too so know the score and process

Foxzee has volunteered (or I volunteered her I think LOL) to be Police Liaison on the day
We have an official photographer (Ratti)
We have a Journo lined up if Jims recovered enough...let hope

PA sorted, barriers will be managed by Parliament security, Cops will monitor whatever they monitor, Council yet to confirm parking (but sure they will....)

Cant think of anything else....done all I can....lets show up on the day and make it happen again

SEE YA ALL THERE!

And Thanks for the support Old's mate, you rock bruv

Shameless bump for Marshals

Ms Piggy - 8th February 2010, 10:34
Originally Posted by StoneY

Shameless bump for Marshals

Bumpity, bump, bump!

Ratti - 8th February 2010, 10:35
er...how the fek did I get to be official photog???? Am trying to round up a mate who is into it for you StoneY. Will getback to you today hopefully. Will do the deed if he can't,but I thought my main contribution was fetching FattMax. and from what I hear that is a BIG contribution..lol

ps. have heard back from my mate and he cant do it,but knows someone who is a professional at photographing big events and will do the deed. He needs to find his phone number and then pass it on to me, who will then pass the information on to you....

mashman - 8th February 2010, 10:49
If i'm wrong, i'm more than happy to listen to those reasons why...

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

But why is the solution to "save ACC"?

Because it's the only thing that makes sense. A country ticks over because of its people and a welfare/health care system that looks after every member of the country is what's required to keep the country ticking over. No healthy workers, no country!

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

How did the protest at unjust fee hikes become a campaign to save the cause of the unjust fee hikes?

If they can prove to me that the hikes are just, then i'll happily pay! They haven't. Nowhere near it in fact! Even their own statisticians question the validity of data that the recommendations have been based on.

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

Its because ACC is a fucking shambles that we are being hammered. So whats to save.

Fix it or can it, but save it? why?

Because there are too many people, comfortable with THEIR lives, comfortable with THEIR standards of living, comfortable in the knowledge that THEIR government is doing the best for them... And as you obviously won't do anything about it, my blood is boiling in the knowledge that there are people who want to do something about it... those who care more about what the $$$ can do rather than what the $$$ represents. Take off those rose tinted specs man!

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

Is that the message you are trying to send to Wellington.

My message to the government is "JUST DO YOUR FUCKING JOBS AND STOP SCREWING PEOPLE OVER"... but as i'm a betting man, i'm going to bet that the government don't give a shit, because you're just a voter and over the years they have come to the conclusion that they are lords and master of this country and that is thanks to narrow minded peopel such as yourself... you don't really give a shit just as long as YOU ARE ALRIGHT!

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

"keep up the bloated monster but don't make me pay my share for it" Yeah catchy, real convincing.

How about, let's see if we can use some of the 1.7 billion of "profits" from this year to see if we can make the system better... Ahhhh, because then you'd HAVE TO WORK FOR A FUCKIN LIVING... Seriously man, is it you or your 8 year old that's asking these questions/making these statements? You do know that they're mulling over, or are in the process of replacing the software at ACC with an insurance software package (could cost 100 mill), something that could be written (yes i write software and i doubt very much that this is the monster it's made out to be) specifically for the task it's required to undertake for about 1/10 of the cost!!! That other 90 mill, hmmmm, how many more nurses/doctors/people will that keep for the next 10 years... Put the fucker on a diet if it's bloated... Starting with those insane salaries.

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

How about, "Cut ACC back to size by making it about accidents".

ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaa, that's a good one. How about a free chainsaw with every box of Weetbix... that way if it's not an accident at least you can cut it off for free!!!!!!! How about, looking at the current business process and seeing where it's going so wrong that all it can generate is 1.7 billion "profit" each year... Hell, could potentially reinvest some of that into improvements... sorry, I now that that's too much common sense and i'm just being silly.

Originally Posted by invisiblehand1

Or "Keep ACC fair" by levying bikers/drivers once only, and "fund it in public" - so we can see that the bureacrats are doing a good job with our money, and not compensating nutters for recovered emotional harm syndrome, or whatever crap is fashionable this week.

So very narrow minded. ACC is BROKEN, not BROKE!!!! I can't prove it, because they won't let me in, but with profit being made every year and 11 billion in assests... PULEASE...

How many people are on the ACC board? I'll take one spot as i want to know and will do a better job!

As for being Union pawns... holy shit, if that's your only reason for not getting involved then you better not have your kids at school, them teachers are unionists ya know, oh and don't go to the hospital (it's full of unionists), public transport oooooo union members... shit, you better be real careful...

What makes you think that ACC won't work?

centaurus - 8th February 2010, 10:56
This Friday is the Wellington "Motorcycle and scooter ride to work day", organised by MTA and supported by pretty mucy all the bike shops in Wellington.

The flier says there will be speeches too. Does anybody know if the 16th demonstration is to be mentioned or if at least the ACC issue is on the topics list? Would be a big shame to waste such a good opportunity in informing the Wellington riders about the event on the 16th.

riffer - 8th February 2010, 12:30
Matt, Im just gutted you're going home later that day. I would have loved to have a jam session with you afterwards...

Originally Posted by Fatt Max

Fuking bang on mate, the more I get clued up, the more pasionate I get about the whole thing myself.

I CANNOT WAIT to get down there on the 16th and support you guys, you are fecking legends for fighting this fight. Fizzing like fuck me....

'1000's with one voice", let 'em fucking have it guys......

StoneY - 8th February 2010, 15:08
Originally Posted by Ratti

er...how the fek did I get to be official photog???? Am trying to round up a mate who is into it for you StoneY. Will getback to you today hopefully. Will do the deed if he can't,but I thought my main contribution was fetching FattMax. and from what I hear that is a BIG contribution..lol

ps. have heard back from my mate and he cant do it,but knows someone who is a professional at photographing big events and will do the deed. He needs to find his phone number and then pass it on to me, who will then pass the information on to you....

OOps maybe wrong KBer
One of the facebook links...sorry Ratti
Your awesome for picking up our Max!

Too many irons in the fire, losing what little plot I had to follow LOL

caseye - 8th February 2010, 17:39
See you all there on the day.
It's going to be a great day and the Nats are once more going to see that they've got it WRONG!

Kinje - 9th February 2010, 13:51
Originally Posted by StoneY

Do you all realize that one of the changes being written in is that you will HAVE to use up all your sick pay and annual leave when your injured before ACC entitlement will even kick in?

I just had a thought about this. Does this essentially pass the cost of the accident onto the victim's employer? Without ACC cover, the employer would need to pay the victim their annual and sick leave entitlements and cover the cost of any replacement labour they need to maintain their workload. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Not to mention I'd be f**ked off at having to use up my annual leave in pain recovering from an accident rather than spending that time enjoying the thrills of motorcycling, windsurfing and skiing

StoneY - 9th February 2010, 13:57
Originally Posted by Kinje

I just had a thought about this. Does this essentially pass the cost of the accident onto the victim's employer? Without ACC cover, the employer would need to pay the victim their annual and sick leave entitlements and cover the cost of any replacement labour they need to maintain their workload. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Not to mention I'd be f**ked off at having to use up my annual leave in pain recovering from an accident rather than spending that time enjoying the thrills of motorcycling, windsurfing and skiing

Unsure on the passing onto employer side, as the leave is YOURS not his, but yeah, replacement labour/skilled worker etc is one I hadnt thought of...well spotted

But yep having to waste 'holiday' pay for recovery time is sickening
Its for your RnR to get out and forget work and recharge NOT for painful days of healing

Its one of the changes GOING through. Thansk John and Nick you wankers might have the income to live on but a REAL worker....will suffer under this regime. BIG time

P38 - 9th February 2010, 16:13
Originally Posted by StoneY

BUT...as its a public 'park' and a official speakers corner under local bylaw (means you can soapbox there any given time) no one can actually STOP you being there there legally......
If we run out of room, I can see it opening up...BUT thats over 900 bikes before it needs happen...I counted last time.

Those 900 spots are gonna fill faster than a fast thing on its fastest day.

I'm kinda hoping your gonna need to park 9000 bikes....

Note to self ... Get there early or you may be forced to find an alternative parking spot

p.s. Any chance of reserving us 10 parking spots? ............... lol ............. just kidding.

DEVVIL - 9th February 2010, 19:38
Originally Posted by Kinje

I just had a thought about this. Does this essentially pass the cost of the accident onto the victim's employer? Without ACC cover, the employer would need to pay the victim their annual and sick leave entitlements and cover the cost of any replacement labour they need to maintain their workload. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Not to mention I'd be f**ked off at having to use up my annual leave in pain recovering from an accident rather than spending that time enjoying the thrills of motorcycling, windsurfing and skiing

So if my (broken ass) workmate uses up all sick and A/L they lose nothing. But a parent saving up some sick pay and A/L to look after the kids when they get sick(Mums and Dads) lose all if they need weeks off on ACC. Hmmm I have 26 sick days!!!(over five weeks) and don't intend using them but F###ACC your
not getting my sick days or A/L.

StoneY - 9th February 2010, 20:56
Originally Posted by P38

Those 900 spots are gonna fill faster than a fast thing on its fastest day.

I'm kinda hoping your gonna need to park 9000 bikes....

.

Bruv, im hoping for 500 bikes its all we need many will have ridden to wok anyway and can walk down with bike jacket on.....
Its not a huge national convoy of thousands this time.

Saving THAT event for next November when we do BIKEOI 2 for real LOL

P38 - 10th February 2010, 17:10
Originally Posted by StoneY

Bruv, im hoping for 500 bikes its all we need many will have ridden to wok anyway and can walk down with bike jacket on.....
Its not a huge national convoy of thousands this time.

Saving THAT event for next November when we do BIKEOI 2 for real LOL

I hear what your saying.... still think your gonna get some good support from lots of bikers on the day, there at least 10 coming from Hawkes Bay that I know of ..... See you there.

StoneY - 11th February 2010, 07:54
We have just heard that the Maori party will MARCH WITH US in support

This is a huge gain, as they are nationals Support Supply partner in the current Government
Sends a very harsh message to JK and Nix Myth

Only downside its Hone that they have given us as a speaker......
Even with the mantra of the enemy of my enemy etc, unsure I wanna have this racists mofo anywhere near my our protest, but wtf if it means the Maori party show on OUR side.....catch 22 sigh

oldrider - 11th February 2010, 08:37
At least Hone's agenda is right out there in the open for "all" to see, what you see is what you get!

Ratti - 11th February 2010, 13:32
Hi Ya sweets, any word on whether we have Molesworth coned off for our use? or have i missed that post. sorry if I have, been one of those days. Be seeing you tonight anyway, but parking came up at Ulysses meet this week so would be nice to let them know.

Leviticus - 11th February 2010, 13:35
Originally Posted by oldrider

At least Hone's agenda is right out there in the open for "all" to see, what you see is what you get!

But how good is the image of Hone riding a bike with no lid on, surely that's gonna work against us