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  • MAG-NZ Launches in New Zealand

    by
    Mom
    Published on 29th August 2010 12:41
    363 Comments Comments
    It is with great pleasure we announce the arrival of MAG-NZ to the biker scene in New Zealand. While our official launch date is October 3rd 2010 we have launched our website today and invite you to come in and find out a bit more about us.

    www.mag-nz.org

    Motorcycle Action Group of New Zealand (MAG-NZ) has been formed by bikers, for bikers and promises a new era of meaningful and purposeful representation for bikers in New Zealand.

    As the name suggests MAG-NZ is about Action.

    As an organisation we are committed to upholding bikers freedoms, and resisting imposed restrictions and laws which impede those freedoms.

    We will do so actively, we will not passively accept the eroding of our legal right to ride. MAG-NZ believes that bikers themselves understand, and are responsible for, the actions that are required to ensure their freedoms. We will not wait for others to do our job for us.

    MAG-NZ believes there are 3 levels of action required;

    • Personal;
    • Local;
    • National.

    As an organisation MAG-NZ is committed to all three.

    We also see the sense in belonging to an international group, committed to similar ideas. MAG-NZ has the support and backing of MAG-UK and will use the resources this affiliation brings to ensure we achieve our goals.

    So, do not ask what MAG-NZ can do for you, rather, what can you do for your fellow bikers?

    Membership of MAG-NZ is open to anyone regardless of what they ride. You don't even have to be a motorcycle owner - if you simply have "an interest" in motorcycles or things motorcycling we welcome your membership.
    Join us today!
    This article was originally published in forum thread: MAG-NZ Launches in New Zealand started by Mom View original post
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    Comments 275 Comments
    1. fliplid's Avatar
      fliplid - 29th August 2010, 18:53
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      I and many other KB members received an unsolicited email informing me of MAG-NZ.
      I feel special- I got 2

      Came via the ACC Levy mailer ...
    1. Virago's Avatar
      Virago - 29th August 2010, 18:53
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      A question for the MAG-NZ Committee,

      I and many other KB members received an unsolicited email informing me of MAG-NZ. Note that I said email, not a pm via KB. When I check the message headers I see that these came from a mailer address at KB.

      Can you please explain how you obtained these email addresses if you are a separate entity to KB? If the KB database was passed to you, that could be illegal under the Unsolicited Electronic Messages Act 2007 (despite having an unsubscribe link , which also points to KB.)

      I will be taking legal advice and if necessary will lay a complaint with the Department of internal Affairs.

      Details supplied to KB should not be used for other purposes.
      The mail-out was from Kiwi Biker (mailer@kiwibiker.co.nz), not from MAG-NZ.






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    1. Mom's Avatar
      Mom - 29th August 2010, 18:53
      Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
      I Like the guy at work that smashed up his foot on his Moto-X bike. You know that was recorded as a motorcycle accident, yet he doesn't pay a cent in rego or levies.
      But you see he does pay a levy. He pays when he buys fuel, and he has a deduction made from his earnings as part of the PAYE that is deducted from his wages. Even if he is on a benefit he still pays the levy.

      This is a complex and vexed issue.
    1. SpankMe's Avatar
      SpankMe - 29th August 2010, 18:58
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      A question for the MAG-NZ Committee,

      I and many other KB members received an unsolicited email informing me blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah....
      Try reading the bottom of the email you received.
    1. DMNTD's Avatar
      DMNTD:Me - 29th August 2010, 19:01
      Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
      But you see he does pay a levy. He pays when he buys fuel, and he has a deduction made from his earnings as part of the PAYE that is deducted from his wages. Even if he is on a benefit he still pays the levy.

      This is a complex and vexed issue.
      The sucky bit in this case (obviously) is we get to pay up to (in my case over twice more...) $500+++ more than 'him' per year
    1. Top Cat's Avatar
      Top Cat - 29th August 2010, 19:02
      Yep....I've lol
    1. Smifffy's Avatar
      Smifffy - 29th August 2010, 19:05
      Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
      But you see he does pay a levy. He pays when he buys fuel, and he has a deduction made from his earnings as part of the PAYE that is deducted from his wages. Even if he is on a benefit he still pays the levy.

      This is a complex and vexed issue.
      Yes, I remember well the protests when those charges were increased to help fully fund ACC......

      I don't see much complicated or vexed about recording the fact that he had an OFF-ROAD motorcycle accident, and separating that from the accidents involving registered motorcycles on the road.

      Edit: For that matter I wouldn't care if he were on road or off, if he paid any rego at all.
    1. Rhino's Avatar
      Rhino - 29th August 2010, 19:06
      Quote Originally Posted by SpankMe View Post
      Try reading the bottom of the email you received.
      I have read it. I stated in my original post that an unsubscribe link exists.

      The main question is still unanswered, is MAG-NZ affiliated to KB? If not how did they obtain our email addresses?
    1. Maha's Avatar
      Maha - 29th August 2010, 19:10
      Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
      I for one would like the statistics to represent reality. Like the guy at work that smashed up his foot on his Moto-X bike. You know that was recorded as a motorcycle accident, yet he doesn't pay a cent in rego or levies.
      Or the people who crash on private roads, or race tracks....
      The local Repco Manager told me he went to his mates new bike, new bike owner had just returned from an outing, manager dude was wearing shorts and burnt his leg on the pipe, it was writen up as a Motorcycle accident.
    1. Rhino's Avatar
      Rhino - 29th August 2010, 19:11
      Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
      The mail-out was from Kiwi Biker (mailer@kiwibiker.co.nz), not from MAG-NZ..
      I am very aware of that. My question still stands. Is MA-NZ affiliated to KB?

      If not, using the KB mailing facility seems somewhat strange.
    1. SpankMe's Avatar
      SpankMe - 29th August 2010, 19:11
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      I have read it. I stated in my original post that an unsubscribe link exists.

      The main question is still unanswered, is MAG-NZ affiliated to KB? If not how did they obtain our email addresses?
      If you clicked on the link, you will see it is from the Kiwi Biker mailer. And as stated on the homepage, I will send out emails for anyone with info on the ACC Levy campaign.
    1. Bodir's Avatar
      Bodir - 29th August 2010, 19:13
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      I have read it. I stated in my original post that an unsubscribe link exists.

      The main question is still unanswered, is MAG-NZ affiliated to KB? If not how did they obtain our email addresses?
      They did not KB has a notification system. You have been informed by KB that MAG-NZ has been launched.

      I used the same line of comunication when informing motorcyclists about the Christmas ride.
    1. Scorpygirl's Avatar
      Scorpygirl - 29th August 2010, 19:13
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      I have read it. I stated in my original post that an unsubscribe link exists.

      The main question is still unanswered, is MAG-NZ affiliated to KB? If not how did they obtain our email addresses?
      I totally agree I have never given my permission for an organisation called MAG to use or obtain my email address and send me an unsolicited email. I am seeking legal advice as I find this an intrusion of my privacy. If the database has come from KB then more fool you for giving the database to MAG!!!!!
    1. Smifffy's Avatar
      Smifffy - 29th August 2010, 19:18
      Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
      The local Repco Manager told me he went to his mates new bike, new bike owner had just returned from an outing, manager dude was wearing shorts and burnt his leg on the pipe, it was writen up as a Motorcycle accident.
      I wonder if the mate was a good enough mate that the repco dude gave him a few shekels to put toward his ACC levy increase...
    1. Virago's Avatar
      Virago - 29th August 2010, 19:19
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      I have read it. I stated in my original post that an unsubscribe link exists.

      The main question is still unanswered, is MAG-NZ affiliated to KB? If not how did they obtain our email addresses?
      Quote Originally Posted by Scorpygirl View Post
      I totally agree I have never given my permission for an organisation called MAG to use or obtain my email address and send me an unsolicited email. I am seeking legal advice as I find this an intrusion of my privacy. If the database has come from KB then more fool you for giving the database to MAG!!!!!
      You guys are having difficulty getting your heads around this.

      The email was from Kiwi Biker - NOT from MAG-NZ. No email addresses have been divulged.

      If you don't want to receive any further ACC campaign emails from KB, click the unsubscribe link.
    1. Scorpygirl's Avatar
      Scorpygirl - 29th August 2010, 19:25
      Quote Originally Posted by Virago View Post
      You guys are having difficulty getting your heads around this.

      The email was from Kiwi Biker - NOT from MAG-NZ. No email addresses have been divulged.

      If you don't want to receive any further ACC campaign emails from KB, click the unsubscribe link.
      I have always got it..... but I still think this could have been spelt out. I will be unsubscribing. Thank you!!!
    1. Mom's Avatar
      Mom - 29th August 2010, 19:25
      Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Crunch View Post
      The sucky bit in this case (obviously) is we get to pay up to (in my case over twice more...) $500+++ more than 'him' per year
      Yes, and this issue is one close to my heart, and the hearts of many others. I attended a public meeting before Xmas where we got Nick Smith to agree that it was unfair to have your ACC ticket clipped so many times. If the next trip to Wellington needs a reason, then this will be it. See this one affects many, not just us bikers.
    1. Katman's Avatar
      Katman - 29th August 2010, 19:28
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      I will be taking legal advice and if necessary will lay a complaint with the Department of internal Affairs.
      Quote Originally Posted by Scorpygirl View Post
      I am seeking legal advice as I find this an intrusion of my privacy.
      Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
      My last ticket was in 2004 in ScorpyGirls car coming up the Bombay Hills.
      So you two are a couple?

      With an axe to grind against MAG-NZ?

      Try harder next time.
    1. SpankMe's Avatar
      SpankMe - 29th August 2010, 19:30
      Quote Originally Posted by Scorpygirl View Post
      I totally agree I have never given my permission for an organisation called MAG to use or obtain my email address and send me an unsolicited email. I am seeking legal advice as I find this an intrusion of my privacy. If the database has come from KB then more fool you for giving the database to MAG!!!!!
      ok, I give up trying to explain it. I can't deal with the net inept. Maybe someone else can try. Remember to speak slowly.
    1. Virago's Avatar
      Virago - 29th August 2010, 19:40
      Quote Originally Posted by Scorpygirl View Post
      I have always got it..... but I still think this could have been spelt out. I will be unsubscribing. Thank you!!!
      The problem was finding words with few enough syllables - but we got there in the end...
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