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  • Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition!

    WCC are reviewing the use of on-road motorcycle parking, which may include the introduction of fees / charges.

    Do your bit by signing the "keep it free" petition:
    http://www.wellington.govt.nz/haveyo...ep/details/147

    PS: Kudos and credit to BRONZ for organising this.

    EDIT: Even if you aren't a Wellingtonian (I don't blame you, honest) - sign the petition. If parking fees for motorcycles goes ahead here, you can guarantee one council will set a precedent for other councils "justifying" fees to be a nationwide thing.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Keep Wellington motorcycling free - sign the petition! started by davebullet View original post
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    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by coreys View Post
      With all due respect, a petition isn't worth the paper it is written on.

      If you want change you have to do more then sign a stupid piece of paper to feel good about yourselves.

      Grow a pair and organise affirmative action.
      The petition is not our only weapon here dude

      I have already arranged with MAG's Wellington rep that should this peaceful initiative be ignored, despite the thousands of signatures, then its outright full on protest activity much like you've just suggested, and trust me we have run enough protests to know how to do it (9,500 on Parliaments lawns was no small event after all)

      Give us some time to do this by consultation and public opinion support, before we call in the artillery huh?

      At this point we are simply invited to discuss the options council and motorcyclists have, and they more than suggested we are going to have to start paying fee's or move into private carparks

      The purpose of negotiation and intended outcomes are:


      To shut this issue down, and hopefully convince TPTB to give us MORE bike parks with various area's being timelimited, or even free parking building access (unlikely)
      Maybe get this ridiculous 'stay off the footpaths' shit overturned, with useless pavemnet space like in Boulcott st re-opened up to us OFFICIALLY with suitable guidelines such as in Melbourne, Amsterdam, Berlin and London...for example cities

      So........ let us do the talking first.....
      IF, and only IF that fails we thne deliver a massive sucker punch with our friends at MAG taking over to provide 'ACTION" as appropriate and trust me, we will be there boots and all
      It is actually against BRONZ constitution to encourage disruption...does not stop us partaking in such action if others will lead it though


      Summary of situation

      Formal consultation is months away
      Febuary 1st is a quiet discussion with the council officers

      At that discussion, BRONZ, MAG and WIMA (as well as Ulysses) will present our organisational wants/needs to best represent the Motorcycling Public of Wellington as best we can

      The petition is what we like to refer as a pre match warm-up, bit of a stretch, some bag work, get the cheerleader squad sorted out.....
      Hope this helps everyone understand where we stand so far?

      Oh yeah.......
      I have a bigger pair than you mate....rest assured it no lack of balls that lead us in this direction pal
    1. caseye's Avatar
      caseye -
      Pussy, ya have not! LOL.
      First we must attempt to play by the/their rules.
      Then we get organised and go to town, every day, morning noon and night if needed.
      This ain't happening.
    1. riffer's Avatar
      riffer -
      Quote Originally Posted by caseye View Post
      Pussy, ya have not! LOL.
      First we must attempt to play by the/their rules.
      Then we get organised and go to town, every day, morning noon and night if needed.
      This ain't happening.
      I likes the cut of ye jib matey.
    1. Big Dave's Avatar
      Big Dave -
      Stoney looking stoic on stuff.co.nz
      Hey man is that a GN250 youse ridin's?
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
      Stoney looking stoic on stuff.co.nz
      Hey man is that a GN250 youse ridin's?
      No idea who's GN that is but had to tell off the photographer for placing a balance foot on zomeones ZX thou and tripping the alarm. LOL

      My KTM Super Duke gets placed in the garage at work (an undisclosed govt dept muwahahaha)
    1. Zookey's Avatar
      Zookey -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kendog View Post
      You must be losing the plot, last time I rode to Palmy there were designated free bike parks all over the place. Not big parking spaces like Wellington, but free marked smaller spaces pretty much everywhere a car would not fit.
      Sure as hell must have Kendog,probably its the one track in and out as quick as possible ,and and the old fellows mind on watching the tin tops.
    1. Clockwork's Avatar
      Clockwork -
      Just a thought...


      Parking in Pay and Display spaces may be illegal through by-laws but "protesting" in them may be a reasonable response under the "Bill of Rights act"


      May be under
      14 Freedom of expression

      Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form.

      16 Freedom of peaceful assembly

      Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly.

      17 Freedom of association

      Everyone has the right to freedom of association.


      Not too sure on this but I seem to recall some protester who was prosecuted for burning a flag getting acquitted when he claimed it was a legitimate form of protest.

      Perhaps a Freedom of exression?
    1. Bald Eagle's Avatar
      Bald Eagle -
      It's not like the council is short of a $ or two with their share of parking revenue.
      Stuff today

      "The council retains nearly half of the $9.7m annual revenue it collects in parking fines"
    1. p.dath's Avatar
      p.dath -
      3000+ participants in the petition. Checked the others, and this by far is the most successful.
    1. oldguy's Avatar
      oldguy -
      Done, petition signed
    1. Hawkeye's Avatar
      Hawkeye -
      Signed (and ready)
    1. GOONR's Avatar
      GOONR -
      Added a new campaign page to the MAG-NZ site. The page will be updated with any developments.
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by GOONR View Post
      Added a new campaign page to the MAG-NZ site. The page will be updated with any developments.
      Awesome bro. Bling ya when I have some more rep to give out

      Amazing...we all fight like pack rats every day, every week, year in year out...... but when we come under attack at any level, Kiwibikers unite like no group of folk I have ever seen before in any facet of lifestyle

      It happened for BIKEOI, again with the young rider who died leaving his 16 year old widow........and over parking now....makes me proud to be a flame warrior!!!!!

      Thanks MAG for the solid support to Wellington Motorcyclists
      A new era in cooperative representation is truly at hand
    1. Bald Eagle's Avatar
      Bald Eagle -
      Quote Originally Posted by GOONR View Post
      Added a new campaign page to the MAG-NZ site. The page will be updated with any developments.
      Bling applied
    1. StoneY's Avatar
      StoneY -
      Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
      3000+ participants in the petition. Checked the others, and this by far is the most successful.
      One old one that was regarding the recycle bins has 9000 sig's but man that's a far more wider public than mere bikers, however this one is now officially the second biggest ever....and its less than a week old!

      The Recycler Bins took 3 months to get 9k siggies
    1. Big Dave's Avatar
      Big Dave -
      Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post

      B. If you want free parking, get a bicycle, you fat cunts.
      Some of us are smart enough to keep our licences.
    1. DEVVIL's Avatar
      DEVVIL -
      Signed... will need to book leave to come down so keep us updated FB KB
    1. BMWST?'s Avatar
      BMWST? -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mokadah View Post
      There are none in Hastings district. I did once ask the head of parking why, and he said they were considering it... that was about four years ago. We're expected to take up a full car space and pay full car rates.

      Still not sure I understand the compelling argument for bikes having completely free parking though.

      I mean it's brilliant and you should fight to keep it, but it sounds like demand far outstrips supply in the Wellington CBD. If you're taking up, say, 20% of the room of a car park, why should you not pay a proportional parking fee?
      because of the other benefits of having 1300 odd bikes coming into the city instead of 1300 more cars.With just a little bit of thought bike parks could be incorporated in many places with little loss of car parking or other amenities.However the councils own plan is to DISCOURAGE all day parking on the streets,its in the district plan.This review happens regularly
    1. taff1954's Avatar
      taff1954 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
      Amazing...we all fight like pack rats every day, every week, year in year out...... but when we come under attack at any level, Kiwibikers unite like no group of folk I have ever seen before in any facet of lifestyle
      Ain't that a fact.

      Petition duly signed (both of us, of course)

      I'd be interested to see what NPDCs views are, especially given the current mayors' support for bikers during the ACC protests.
    1. Pussy's Avatar
      Pussy -
      Quote Originally Posted by taff1954 View Post
      I'd be interested to see what NPDCs views are, especially given the current mayors' support for bikers during the ACC protests.
      New Plymouth's current mayor is an idiot.
      You could write a full and comprehensive list of his achievements on the back of a .60c stamp with a builder's pencil
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