Not cool to contact sponsors

[GSVR]

Adding to this, Eddie and Sloan have worked hard for where they are and the sponsorship money they have bought with them from LG enriches the sport.
It is my personal resolve that I always deal with people that deal with me and who are pro-active. Im well enough subscribed at present with whiteware and entertainment gear but as it needs upgrading I will be purchasing off these guys. Even if I could get a better price elsewhere that is not the point, you deal with those who deal with you and you purchase from Kiwis.

With Budget day tomorrow LG must be expecting a huge order in the very near future. The drought is over my friend! After years of a Labour Govt. now the small bussinessman is finally going to be looked after care of Key and English and our beloved National Party.

Roll on tomorrow.

[flame]

Guys /Girls... please look elsewhere for your sponsorship.. it really is not cool to knock on a current sponsors door, especially if they already sponsor someone else.. for the record your proposals get forwarded to me...
Its a wide world out there.. be creative.. and not a plonker!!

Yep....Im with you on this one Ed. Pretty amazing the dribble that comes out of some peoples minds when they 'approach to poach'. Ive seen it, and it is bizarre how these people often have the intent to de-grade current sponsored riders in their written script. Do they not realize that we will read it?? LOL.

Approaching a current sponsor to become an 'addition' to the team is one thing, and I have no problem with it, it just confirms that they respect your team as much as you yourself do, I doubt Ed has a problem with that either. On the other hand....making a deliberate attempt to poach a ride is just RUDE. Especially if the concerned party is a known being or friend to the current rider.

[Headbanger]

Very weird thread.

We (the company I usually work for) do quite a lot of local level sponsorship, Sidecars, stockcars, and a couple people on bikes.

At the start of every season we are swamped with proposals, CV's ,brochures, some of it very slick, all of them are asking for money.

Its not an offence to ask, Through any medium that you choose, Just like its not an offence for the company in question to ignore it or any other proposal. Its a giant nothing.

I have to wonder why LG are passing the correspondence onto someone not mature enough to deal with it, Surely this rubbish is not what they had in mind.

[Sonykid]

Very weird thread.

We (the company I usually work for) do quite a lot of local level sponsorship, Sidecars, stockcars, and a couple people on bikes.

At the start of every season we are swamped with proposals, CV's ,brochures, some of it very slick, all of them are asking for money.

Its not an offence to ask, Through any medium that you choose, Just like its not an offence for the company in question to ignore it or any other proposal. Its a giant nothing.

I have to wonder why LG are passing the correspondence onto someone not mature enough to deal with it, Surely this rubbish is not what they had in mind.

Very well said.

[Robert Taylor]

With Budget day tomorrow LG must be expecting a huge order in the very near future. The drought is over my friend! After years of a Labour Govt. now the small bussinessman is finally going to be looked after care of Key and English and our beloved National Party.

Roll on tomorrow.

If businesses are successful then it is to be hoped that people get carried along with it, that they employ people and that those who work hard are suitably rewarded. There are good businesses and bad businesses but basically I think that business people in NZ shouldnt have to scale so many walls to do business and that tax incentives ( when they will be possible ) encourages business to expand and employ more people.
We may choose to disagree on how its done but there is no question that workers in NZ are poorly paid, theres also an issue of many employees not delivering.
We can all do our part in supporting our own as much as possible. Why for example should we support the US in many things when they have just delivered a body blow to our primary producers?

[Wingnut]

Even if I could get a better price elsewhere that is not the point, you deal with those who deal with you and you purchase from Kiwis.

Amen to that!

[GIXser]

Yep....Im with you on this one Ed. Pretty amazing the dribble that comes out of some peoples minds when they 'approach to poach'. Ive seen it, and it is bizarre how these people often have the intent to de-grade current sponsored riders in their written script. Do they not realize that we will read it?? LOL.

Approaching a current sponsor to become an 'addition' to the team is one thing, and I have no problem with it, it just confirms that they respect your team as much as you yourself do, I doubt Ed has a problem with that either. On the other hand....making a deliberate attempt to poach a ride is just RUDE. Especially if the concerned party is a known being or friend to the current rider.

thank you Flame, robert, R6 kid, Drew and many others... you get it...
and your'e right Flame, i have no problem someone approching us to become part of it.. im all for growing the sport as a matter of fact we are talking to several people now to add on the team" im simply saying that there is a right and ethical way of going about it... and people if you dont get the above.... .. you'll never get it..!!!

[SS90]

Im well enough subscribed at present with whiteware and entertainment gear but as it needs upgrading I will be purchasing off these guys. Even if I could get a better price elsewhere that is not the point, you deal with those who deal with you and you purchase from Kiwis.

I think this is the most important post so far in this thread.

It is all too easy to forget that the money everyone is asking for is coming from the profits of the business, and in order to "get more money next year" from these businesses, they MUST see a direct sales/profit increase from their sponsorship (or it was just an exercise in money burning)

What Robert Taylor has just demonstrated is that he (obvioulsly) is aware of this, and "is doing his bit" to improve OTHER peoples opportunities in getting sponsorship.

If you need to purchase something, and are shopping around, always think of a sponsored race team, and try to mention that when you are in the store....it all adds up, and eventually, it may have the flow on effect of other sponsors "coming to the party" when you come knocking.

[Headbanger]

thank you Flame, robert, R6 kid, Drew and many others... you get it...
and your'e right Flame, i have no problem someone approching us to become part of it.. im all for growing the sport as a matter of fact we are talking to several people now to add on the team" im simply saying that there is a right and ethical way of going about it... and people if you dont get the above.... .. you'll never get it..!!!

Well, Put me down as not getting it, as none of that has anything to do with the issue you brought up when you created this thread.

First it was contacting your sponsor being uncool and people had to stop (as per thread title)

Then it was Emails are an offensive way to contact them.

Now what?...ethics?, poached riders? wtf?

Seriously, WTF?

[GIXser]

How does one go about getting sponsorship?
Do you have to prove your skills on and off the track and then wait for someone to approach you, or is getting off your date and asking around, putting it out there that you'd like to go further with some help in return for advertising, promotion etc frowned upon?
Just asking. I thought taking a bit of initiative and showing that you're committed by trying to help yourself would be a good thing.

Hi Trudes,

I have found the best way of getting sponsorship is to create a relationship first, and a genuine one at that, be genuinely interested in their business !
its definately not about results,(case in point with myself) its what you can offer them ulimately with your contacts, and let me point out, that most sponsorship money is (for a business) not worth it for the return they recieve.. so why should someone sponsor you ?
this is where you really have to put your thinkin hat on, you may need to spend some money/time in order to recieve any money or returns from the company.. i could go on but am hoping you get my drift. let me know if you want some more info. Cheers and good luck

[KS34]

The thing that would f#@& me off is the complete lack of imagination, effort and preparation. The LG team have inspired me to look for serious sponsorship I even rang Eddie for some advice which he very generously gave. I havent managed to hook anything up for this year but next year looks good. Just time, effort and relationships. If thats how serious they are about sponsorship I'd love to see there bike prep and season campaign plan!

[boomer]

Post numero Uno

Guys /Girls... please look elsewhere for your sponsorship.. it really is not cool to knock on a current sponsors door, especially if they already sponsor someone else.. for the record your proposals get forwarded to me...
Its a wide world out there.. be creative.. and not a plonker!!

Post numero dos

I dont think some of ya get it.. im not worried about people approching companies for sponsorships... but do you think a simple email will do it....!!???
not only that... think outside the box people....
would you give someone thousands of dollars.. just from a simple email.....(unless its nigerian ofcourse..) have the balls to phone em or better yet turn up in person if you really want to make an impression ....

Post Numero tres

thank you Flame, robert, R6 kid, Drew and many others... you get it...
and your'e right Flame, i have no problem someone approching us to become part of it.. im all for growing the sport as a matter of fact we are talking to several people now to add on the team" im simply saying that there is a right and ethical way of going about it... and people if you dont get the above.... .. you'll never get it..!!!

remove all your emotions, feelings, passion and take an objective view of what YOU posted.. not what you think you said or what you wanted to say but what you did say/write !!!

You're a rude cunt suggesting i dont get it after what you posted above; when in fact you're acting like a school girl. "Say what you mean and mean what you say".... more wise words from my dad you may want to heed !

[Two Smoker]

BAHAHAHA! Youre fookin awesome Doonkin...

[boomer]

Very well said, what really struck a chord with me is that very often people ( like Eddie ) do an enormous amount of groundwork and I empathise with him being protective of that. It also always amazes me that when there is a bit of sponsorship money around all of a sudden there are lots of ''hangers on''. If you want it work for it.

Call me stupid and paint me black ,but where in any of Eddies posts does it say that the person asked to replace Eddie Or Sloan?! it implies the person ( albeit not very smart, bright or original) has asked for sponsorship along with/side Eddie/Sloan.

If it were me, knowing Eddie and if i was racing, i wouldn't go directly to LG... as i think it would be fkin cheeky and im not THAT thick skinned.. BUT.. they're my morals. I dont think its so rude for anyone to ask for sponsorship and if someone wants to be cheeky.. go for it.


Robert, do you get ya nickers in a twist when people ask you for sponsorship knowing you sponsor the #1 Superbike rider in NZ...??!! Or does said super bike rider start hititng the cheeky fookers with his bible.. throwing holy water on 'em in disgust ... !

[Robert Taylor]

Well, Put me down as not getting it, as none of that has anything to do with the issue you brought up when you created this thread.

First it was contacting your sponsor being uncool and people had to stop (as per thread title)

Then it was Emails are an offensive way to contact them.

Now what?...ethics?, poached riders? wtf?

Seriously, WTF?

I get it, it always did involve ethics, or lack thereof.