Kittytamers AMCC rd 4 @ Pukekohe

[prettybillie]

But as you said on the day, what is the relevance of displaying this to the rider on the track ? Normally a bike number is displayed with a black flag and so it was understandable that you interpreted this as a black flag. But jump starts, at a club level, are an automatic time penalty which is added to the results.

There are some riders who won't continue if they have that penalty and in the past there has been some flack from race organisers for not letting the riders know at the finish of the first lap that they have been penalised.

It's a good point though that perhaps at the riders brief the penalty rules and the board are explained.

There were a few riders that came in after jumping the start for exactly the same reason. Good attitude though Kittitamer - people could learn a lot from you!!!!

[NinjaBoy]

There are some riders who won't continue if they have that penalty and in the past there has been some flack from race organisers for not letting the riders know at the finish of the first lap that they have been penalised.

Yeah... a bit of damned if do and damned if you don't

[kittytamer]

There are some riders who won't continue if they have that penalty and in the past there has been some flack from race organisers for not letting the riders know at the finish of the first lap that they have been penalised.

It's a good point though that perhaps at the riders brief the penalty rules and the board are explained.

There were a few riders that came in after jumping the start for exactly the same reason. Good attitude though Kittitamer - people could learn a lot from you!!!!

Why would you not continue? I would be trying to make up the penalty! OK, that may be a bit hard in a 6 lap race....
As for people getting pissy, whats the point? There's no big prizes being lost here, particulaly in Clubmans.
I do think this needs to be covered in the riders briefing though.
I'm treating all this as a learning experience and you can bet I won't be jumping the start again - that's the reason for the penalty after all isn't it?

[sharky]

Hayden Fitzgerald jumped the start also in one of the F1 races. He realised what he'd done, brought the bike to a stop, let everyone passed, waited for a bit then took off. He STILL got the 20sec penalty.

[kittytamer]

Hayden Fitzgerald jumped the start also in one of the F1 races. He realised what he'd done, brought the bike to a stop, let everyone passed, waited for a bit then took off. He STILL got the 20sec penalty.

Same happened to me, I came into the pits but still got the 20sec penalty. I think it should be a ride through OR a penalty and the officials could have dropped the penalty because we came through the pits.
For me it made the difference between 12th and 13th, big deal, doesn't matter. Even for Hayden, he would have only gained 1 spot too.
I've seen WSBK races where a rider has jumped the start, then hesitated and gone again once eveyone else has gone, effectively loosing loads of time and still getting hit with a ride through.
The moral is, if you jump the start, keep it pinned, know the rules and take the penalty

PS - Sharky, I was admiring the paint job on your bike all day, it looks mint

[roadracingoldfart]

There is alot to be said about reading the rule book aye ...
A good idea to go over the penalty rule at riders breifing but if the rule is printed into the suplimentary rules each rider gets on entry there should be no confusion. That saves time at the briefing and more time on the track , an informed rider is a safer and happy little bunny.

[roogazza]

Does it really matter that much ? You still get to do the race and we're not exactly racing for Sheep Stations. Just take it up the bum and enjoy the fun, you might even make up the 10 seconds ? gaz.

[sharky]

PS - Sharky, I was admiring the paint job on your bike all day, it looks mint [/QUOTE]

Cheers mate. Did you see what it used to look like? Yellow with smashed fairings and dents all over it. Not hard to make an improvement eh.