What's Richard Worth been up to then eh?

**avgas** · 5th June 2009, 15:47

Swinging aye.....nice to know NZ didn't change while i was gone.
but does this need to go to court?

**Robert Taylor** · 5th June 2009, 20:24

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Where is the evidence for the above. As I recall cabinet discussed havingt a whip round for those convicted.

As I a have already mentioned in other posts the drivers eventually got off.

Move on on this. I have.

Bottomline on Worth is that this is a Key and Nat's mess not Labour's or Goff's.

Any other interpretation............ I can only conclude is that you see no wrong in what Worth has done............acted in a manner unbecoming a Govt Minister.............as he did with his trip to India in which Key did not act when he should have. Key is undecisive under pressure and this is one of his weaknesses

Skyyrder

Wrong again because you are drowning in red mist.

The driver got put through the wringer for weeks to ''save face'' for the fraudster riding in that car who ''didnt know they were speeding'' WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS. The same bitch who elaborately manipulated the resignation of the then police commissioner when she first came to power, all because he wouldnt beat to her political drum.

Worth was worthless so he had to go, fair call. The National party have a tough act to follow in terms of dead wood, corrupt members and political manipulation. They also have to deal daily with a predominantly left wing news media.

Keys only ''crime'' is that he demonstrably doesnt have the same ruthless streak as the ''bitch from belsen'' that preceded him. And hes actually a likable guy, that makes a change.

I hope Clark burns in hell in perpetuity, and I truly mean that.

**Skyryder** · 5th June 2009, 20:52

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Wrong again because you are drowning in red mist.

The driver got put through the wringer for weeks to ''save face'' for the fraudster riding in that car who ''didnt know they were speeding'' WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS. The same bitch who elaborately manipulated the resignation of the then police commissioner when she first came to power, all because he wouldnt beat to her political drum.

Worth was worthless so he had to go, fair call. The National party have a tough act to follow in terms of dead wood, corrupt members and political manipulation. They also have to deal daily with a predominantly left wing news media.

Keys only ''crime'' is that he demonstrably doesnt have the same ruthless streak as the ''bitch from belsen'' that preceded him. And hes actually a likable guy, that makes a change.

I hope Clark burns in hell in perpetuity, and I truly mean that.

I asked for evidence of instructions to speed, instead I get a diatribe. I don't think I have ever wished ill on Key or for that matter any one. And some on here think I'm the the KB political bigot...........on this score I willingly concede defeat.

Skyryder

**Winston001** · 5th June 2009, 22:37

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Wrong again because you are drowning in red mist.

The driver got put through the wringer for weeks to ''save face'' for the fraudster riding in that car who ''didnt know they were speeding''

I'm not a fan of Helen Clark and her lack of public support of the drivers and officers involved removed my previous respect for her.

However - fair play. Unknown to most of us, the PM did try to support the drivers. Frankly I think she should have offered to give evidence for the defence but that is a tough call. Not a good look to have the PM whom the police are ultimately answerable to, joining in to help defend a case.

Politics.

**Winston001** · 5th June 2009, 22:51

Originally Posted by Skyryder

http://www.guide2.co.nz/politics/new...r-made/11/8402

Reading in between the lines I'm picking there has been some kind of inappropiate behavour made towards a female.

Key is not saying much on this which is probably the right thing to do under the circumstances but that Key has taken so long to give Worth the 'shove' when it was obvious by Worths other political indescetions suggests to me that Key needs to toughen up and show some leadership should any future minister act in a manner of 'self' interest in their buisness dealings.

Skyryder

Back on topic, Goff is moaning that Key didn't act quickly enough when from a public perspective, this was lightning fast.

Contrast Key's action with Helen Clark's craven clinging to the oleaginous Winston Peters. That debacle went on for weeks and weeks and showed up Labour as grasping power at all costs. So much for integrity.

Similarly with Phillip Field who stayed on and on. If Key had been PM, Field would have been gone by lunchtime....

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 23:00

Originally Posted by Winston001

Back on topic, Goff is moaning that Key didn't act quickly enough when from a public perspective, this was lightning fast.

Contrast Key's action with Helen Clark's craven clinging to the oleaginous Winston Peters. That debacle went on for weeks and weeks and showed up Labour as grasping power at all costs. So much for integrity.

Similarly with Phillip Field who stayed on and on. If Key had been PM, Field would have been gone by lunchtime....

Good point W and well put,back off topic.....bring back Rob,least the rich got richer and nobody gave a fuck about the lazy cunts,subsidies were the best thing since sliced bread.

**Skyryder** · 5th June 2009, 23:23

I'm at a loss as to why Clarke even gets a mention with this. The point that I am making is that Key had the chance to sort Worth out over his India debacle. He did not. If he had Key may, and I stress may, have been in a better positon to ward off any polical flak that Goff has thrown at him. On this score I think Goff has flunked but having said that he was hamstrung in the fact that the woman did not want to be named. I suspect that Goffs initial concerns was to warn Key of Worths behavour and get him to have the harrassment stopped. The second complaint is a direct result of Key doing nothing.

As things now stand Goff informed Key of his concerns about
Worths behavour. Did Key ask for any evidence of this. No he did not. Instead he did nothing and it was not untill the second complaint and this went to the police that Key acted.
This is not the actions of a decisive leader. Instead it seems to me one of man who sweeps the 'too hard basket' under the carpet. But hey if some of you want to keep bitching about Clarke go for it. She's history as Key will be one day.

Skyryder

**xwhatsit** · 6th June 2009, 00:34

Heh. Tories and their sex scandals

Still, this being New Zealand, it's pretty tame... did he even get into her pants?

From a lefty, well done Key for turfing him out quick-smart. He gave his word during the election that he'd have high ethical standards for all his ministers... and that's what he's done.

**Brian d marge** · 6th June 2009, 02:59

would you lot focus on the real picture, your broke , your productivity isnt worth a hill of beans, poverty is causing a heap of problems, and you lot are worried a bout Dr worthless getting it on with a Indian/Korean / insert next media mistake,

bout time you started to hold these politician to account, Dear Mr Key/Clark osame bin lying, How does a country of 4 million people , get a growth of and a tax rate of,..... and raise merry hell if they dont give a satisfactory answer, None of this political speach ( I was listening to Roger Douglas in parliment about the budget,,Mans gone and smoked himself simple ...) I mean even the nation of Surrender monkeys get off their arse when it comes to national politics

Stephen

still mustnt grumble eh , Im ok , I have me bike ..........

**Robert Taylor** · 6th June 2009, 10:41

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I'm at a loss as to why Clarke even gets a mention with this. The point that I am making is that Key had the chance to sort Worth out over his India debacle. He did not. If he had Key may, and I stress may, have been in a better positon to ward off any polical flak that Goff has thrown at him. On this score I think Goff has flunked but having said that he was hamstrung in the fact that the woman did not want to be named. I suspect that Goffs initial concerns was to warn Key of Worths behavour and get him to have the harrassment stopped. The second complaint is a direct result of Key doing nothing.

As things now stand Goff informed Key of his concerns about
Worths behavour. Did Key ask for any evidence of this. No he did not. Instead he did nothing and it was not untill the second complaint and this went to the police that Key acted.
This is not the actions of a decisive leader. Instead it seems to me one of man who sweeps the 'too hard basket' under the carpet. But hey if some of you want to keep bitching about Clarke go for it. She's history as Key will be one day.

Skyryder

Unfortunately that bitch is not history due to her influential position in the UN, where she can spread her particularly toxic poison further. That organisation is top heavy with pseudo communists.

This is a good old fashioned battle of the left and the right and at the moment its also fascinating to watch whats happening in Britain. Brown and his party are being shown up for the bunch of idiots they are. But just across the ditch credit where credits due, Kevin Rudd has made some very good decisions.

So we may naturally lose a couple of ministers or so in time ( that certainly happened in the previous Government ) Keys only ''misdemeanour'' is that he hasnt followed the same ruthless streak.

Bigoted against the Labour party, yes I am and Im not apologising for it for one second.

**Skyryder** · 6th June 2009, 11:25

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Unfortunately that bitch is not history due to her influential position in the UN, where she can spread her particularly toxic poison further. That organisation is top heavy with pseudo communists.

This is a good old fashioned battle of the left and the right and at the moment its also fascinating to watch whats happening in Britain. Brown and his party are being shown up for the bunch of idiots they are. But just across the ditch credit where credits due, Kevin Rudd has made some very good decisions.

So we may naturally lose a couple of ministers or so in time ( that certainly happened in the previous Government ) Keys only ''misdemeanour'' is that he hasnt followed the same ruthless streak.

Bigoted against the Labour party, yes I am and Im not apologising for it for one second.

This thread is about Worth, not Clarke, the UN, Brown or the Brit Labour Party so why you try and muddy the waters with inconsequential matters suggests to me that you are unable to defend Keys actions on this his inability to deal decisively on Worth.

Another example of Keys flip flop is his statement that he was prepared to ‘reorganize’ his schedule, that was yesterday (5-6-09) to meet with the Indian woman. He made much of his willingness to meet with her then on the advice of some minion on his staff changes his mind and places conditions on the meeting. Apart from yet again where Key’s word is not ‘worth’ anything, anyone with any common sense on political matters has got to ask who is in charge? I have alluded to this in other posts. Key is but a puppet. He has a smiley face a smooth tounge but as for honesty integrity Key fails in the biggest department of all Trust.

As for me being blinded with 'red mist' you need to clear your own eyes before you make accusations in which you yourself admit to being a bigot .

Skyryder

**Pixie** · 6th June 2009, 12:25

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Took her that long to say "honja naebeoryeo dushipshio"...mmm...what ever happened to the slap to the face response....probably too bloody PC EH.

Being a pinko she'd be anti smacking

**MisterD** · 6th June 2009, 13:38

I see Goof has described the woman as "strikingly attractive".

What does this tell us?

That he's trying to keep the issue in the media by titillating the public?
That any average woman would look attractive after working with Helen Clark for 20 years?
That he's jealous of Worth?
That he fancies a bit of bollywood?

**Robert Taylor** · 6th June 2009, 16:03

Originally Posted by Skyryder

This thread is about Worth, not Clarke, the UN, Brown or the Brit Labour Party so why you try and muddy the waters with inconsequential matters suggests to me that you are unable to defend Keys actions on this his inability to deal decisively on Worth.

Another example of Keys flip flop is his statement that he was prepared to ‘reorganize’ his schedule, that was yesterday (5-6-09) to meet with the Indian woman. He made much of his willingness to meet with her then on the advice of some minion on his staff changes his mind and places conditions on the meeting. Apart from yet again where Key’s word is not ‘worth’ anything, anyone with any common sense on political matters has got to ask who is in charge? I have alluded to this in other posts. Key is but a puppet. He has a smiley face a smooth tounge but as for honesty integrity Key fails in the biggest department of all Trust.

As for me being blinded with 'red mist' you need to clear your own eyes before you make accusations in which you yourself admit to being a bigot .

Skyryder

A Tory bigot thankyou and immensely proud of it. Your side lost, get over it.