View Poll Results: should buckets have a capacity of 250cc??

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  • hell yes i want power!!!

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  • na i love my smoky cb125t

    12 19.67%
  • no, its too big of a motor

    41 67.21%
  • only if the 250's are 2 valve

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Thread: Should the bucket capacity go up to 250cc?

  1. #16
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    No that is a daft idea. The idea of buckets is small. If someone got serious about developing a XR250 motor or similar you would have something that would end up very close to a modern 250 MX motor. As been said it aint broke don't fix it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DELLORTO View Post
    there no class for xr250's...lol and they are very cheap 90's xr250 motors are about $600 for a good running one and you can get shineray 200cc motors for $600 also
    That's very short sighted. A good XR motor will go for far more than that to the right person and as far as I know they have stopped production on them now as all development had gone the CRF range.

    Shineray/Loncin etc make 150cc motors as well that fit in the current rules so just get one of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hmurphy View Post
    I voted no. I don't want this to become more expensive than it already is! Hard to afford even bucket racing when you earn S.F.A a week and you are a student!
    dont worry its just an idea....i wanted to hear all your opinons thats all
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    No. Its fine as it is.

    Sounds to me like you want more speed, the whole track day thing etc. But from what ive observed you still have a lot to learn from buckets. Once you start getting up there a little bit more a jump to 150cc (keep racing buckets! at the same time), wouldn't be a bad thing. Contact "Billy" on here if you want more info.

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    Most of the good old XR motors are returning to VMX duty. The 150 rule has been a godsend that has truely revitalised the sport. And before you mention that FXR's are no longer sold new, the Honda CBR150/125 is starting to gain ground and we havent yet seen the Yamaha R125. Wont be too long before a decent Chinese motor is available, the Loncin is already a great motor.

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    If anything the cc limit should be LOWERED. That's not going to happen so let's leave it alone. It's not broken.
    This is meant to be (relatively) low cost, low speed, kart track racing. I hope that MotoFXR gets big enough to stand on it's own (with other 150cc 4 strokes such as Loncin included) and we can drop the F4 limit back to 145cc.

    Worst thing to happen to Buckets was the introduction of these big smelly diesels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gav View Post
    Most of the good old XR motors are returning to VMX duty. The 150 rule has been a godsend that has truely revitalised the sport. And before you mention that FXR's are no longer sold new, the Honda CBR150/125 is starting to gain ground and we havent yet seen the Yamaha R125. Wont be too long before a decent Chinese motor is available, the Loncin is already a great motor.
    i dont know about you but i wouldnt want to mess around with a fuel injector.....there abit complicated......its a bitty they arnt carburatored

    fxr's are still realy easy to get and you can still buy them new from made-in-china.com, they've got full fairings now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by quallman1234 View Post
    No. Its fine as it is.

    Sounds to me like you want more speed, the whole track day thing etc. But from what ive observed you still have a lot to learn from buckets. Once you start getting up there a little bit more a jump to 150cc (keep racing buckets! at the same time), wouldn't be a bad thing. Contact "Billy" on here if you want more info.
    ive only done 3 meeting so yes ive got alot to learn, hae ive moved up from 5hp pocket bikes..........or course i want more power!!!

    my fxr150 seems to keep me entertained at the moment tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by DELLORTO View Post
    ive only done 3 meeting so yes ive got alot to learn, hae ive moved up from 5hp pocket bikes..........or course i want more power!!!

    my fxr150 seems to keep me entertained at the moment tho
    Awesome man, best of luck! Come down to kaitoke sometime, its seriously awesome!

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    yer i will......jsut got to waite until the weather in wellignton is reliable
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    Weather smeather just ride whatever the weather.... it's character building!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DELLORTO View Post
    heard john connor talking about it a few months back, it would be quite cool to be able to have xr200 and xr250 motors ect and throw them in fxr150's....saves putting in a 150cc chinka
    with fxr150 motors and old small capacity four strokes getting more and more rare i think it would be a great idea
    wat do you guys think?
    Wot u posing this question for ?? didn't you already say your FXR was too big for a kart track.

    I may be wrong, but I doubt John connor would be wanting to see 250's on a kart track. A review of the rules maybe, a review of the two stroke carb ruling is definately in order ( cos I have three of them now )

    Personally I thinks it's a good competion as it is.

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    yes my fxr is too big {cos its turning cicle is crap}......i meant for bigger tracks like kaitoke, hasting...and all the others

    john was talking more in the way of boring bikes out ect
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELRACING View Post
    Wot u posing this question for ?? didn't you already say your FXR was too big for a kart track.

    I may be wrong, but I doubt John connor would be wanting to see 250's on a kart track. A review of the rules maybe, a review of the two stroke carb ruling is definately in order ( cos I have three of them now )

    Personally I thinks it's a good competion as it is.
    I can seriously see some stuipdly quick buckets coming from a 125 with something like a 36mm carb on it! Much faster than a fxr for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quallman1234 View Post
    I can seriously see some stuipdly quick buckets coming from a 125 with something like a 36mm carb on it! Much faster than a fxr for instance.
    There are already some stupidly quick buckets, I suppose it depends on how stupid the rider is.

    There still has to be reasonable limits, but I was suggesting ammendments to allow the older bikes to remain competitive with the modern bikes. It has been discussed wether the carb limit on F4 2 strokes be increased to 28mm, which is not unreasonable.

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