Bain, what's the answer going to be?

[AllanB]

They should of hung him first time round,and saved the country a shit load of money.You can always say sorry after....i always do.

Print it and I'll buy the T-shirt

I'm sick of it - it's over, may he buy a nice house somewhere and start dating his female admirers

[marty]

David got 900k

difference there was that he was proven INNOCENT, not just found not guilty. he's no angel, but i don't begrudge him the compo money one bit

[Teambwr47]

Print it and I'll buy the T-shirt

I'm sick of it - it's over, may he buy a nice house somewhere and start dating his female admirers

Not sure if you saw 'close up' tonight but two such female admirers also known as complete loons were on there.

They 'befriended' Bain a long time ago as a complete stranger, convicted of multiple murders,in prison even taking their kids to visit him??

[Skyryder]

David Bain not guilty............

Right o so therefore the defence case that Robin Bain was the killer must be true then eh??

To be the killer you'd have to accept the following.......


It was a lucky guess when David Bain told 111 ambulance officer they are all dead, despite later saying he only saw two bodies

Again a lucky guess hen DB told police officer they are all dead

The 25 minute gap between DB finding his family dead and calling 111 is in no way connected with trying to wash clothes and removed blood.

The bruise on David’s head and scratches on his chest and graze on his knee – none of which he could explain, were just a coincidence

The lens from his glasses found in Stephen’s room happened weeks ago and he never noticed OR someone else had borrowed the glasses

The lack of fresh injuries on Robin despite the massive struggle with Stephen is just the product of healthy living

David’s finger prints on gun are from a previous time

David telling a friend he had premonition something bad was going to happen was a genuine psychic experience

Stephen’s blood on David’s clothing was nothing to do with the struggle – OR someone else borrowed his clothes

Robin managed to execute his family on a full bladder

The lock and key to the rifle being found in David’s room is not relevant as they were obviously placed there

Robin decided to wash David’s green jersey to remove blood and the fibres from jersey found under Steven’s finger nails

David’s bloody palm print on the washing machine was from him checking the bodies

The Ambulance officer was wrong when he said in his opinion Bain was pretending to have a fit

Robin Bain would logically wear gloves to prevent fingerprints despite it being a murder-suicide

That Robin Bain would type a message on a computer for David telling him he is the only one who deserves to live, instead of writing a note. A hand written note incidentally would have cleared David.

Also that having just shot his family, and knowing David was due home, that Robin would wait 44 seconds for the computer to boot up to leave a message

Robin would decide David deserved to live, but go out of his way to frame him for murder

Robin Bain placed fibres from Davids jersey under Stephen’s finger nails

Robin Bain would shoot himself with a gun in the most awkward way possible?

That Robin Bain changed jerseys after he had killed his family and in particular Stephen Bain, washed the jersey, hung it on the line and then change into a brown jersey before killing himself?

That there is a logical reason that David Bain can not account for the injuries on his face, the bruise or the scraped knee, yet knows he did not have them during his paper run.

That Robin Bain put blood on the inside of David’s duvet and on his light switch

That there is an innocent explanation for why David says he put on washing before he discovered the bodies, yet there is a blood print on the washing machine.

That Laniet was being paranoid when she told friends she was scared of David

That the “family meeting” David called the previous night and insisted everyone attended was not a way to make sure everyone would be at home to kill.

That Robin Bain would wear a hat while shooting himself in the head.

That even though David told a relative he hated his father, his father did not know this and deliberately decided David was the only one who deserved to live

That David either imagined hearing Laniet gurgling or she gurgled 20 minutes after death

That Laniet allegations of incent with Robin was true, as was her claims she had given birth three times by the age of 12 and a half.

That Robin Bain managed to kill four family members without a single trace of his blood, skin, or DNA being left at the scene.

That it is a coincidence that on the morning of the murders Bain took his dog onto a property, ensuring he would be noticed to give him an alibi.

That the magazine found balanced on an edge next to Robin was not placed there by David but fell onto its edge from Robin’s arms.

That a sickly Robin Bain managed to overpower his teendage son who put up a furious fight

That Robin Bain went and got the newspaper from outside, despite planning to shoot himself

David bain has been found not guilty as a result of a concerted effort to create doubt in the mind of the public and jurors. Oh yeah the jurors, none of whom will not have heard of the case prior to the trial.

I wonder what will happen when compensation is sought and the reasonable doubt/jury is replaced by balance of evidence as viewed by a barrister.

And it only took the jurors six hours to arrive at not guilty. If there was ever a case to bin the jury system this was it................


Skyryder

[Mom]

They couldn't present all the evidence. They threw a big chunk of it away once David was jailed.

I am not sure they just threw it away, they allowed a heap of it to be burned when they agreed to the house being burned down very shortly after the murders took place.

the only one who REALLY knows, is bain himself.

Guess he wont be telling any different story than the one presented in court while he is alive. He is actually the only one that knows what happened, his truth as spoken now is he is not guilty of the murders.

I wish him the best of luck in finding normality again, if ever.

You tell them sister! If ever indeed!

[MVnut]

Were you a prosecution witness or something bwr???

[chucky19]

A bit bitter aren't we? Part of the reason the prosecution case didn't stand up is because the quality of the evidence presented was dubious.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. We weren't on the Jury. We didn't see the full picture. The cornerstone of our legal system is trial by jury. Part of that is also accepting that a jury may make a decision that you don't like.

Any evidence can be made to look dubious given the system we have here, where the prosecution have to provide full disclosure of every scrap of information they have, but the defence can turn up on the day in Court to present their own 'expert'. No defence expert was subject to scrutiny of their scientific methodology, peer review or intelligent cross examination by an experienced practitioner in the same field. I wasn't in the jury but I do know at least one of their experts was either lying or totally incompetent.

How many defence experts came up with statements that began 'consistent with....'???

I can accept the system we have, doesn't mean I have to like it - unless I'm guilty.

[xgnr]

a good result. i will never know how they managed to find impartial kiwi jurors... theres very few that havent heard of and formed an opinion of the case.

Its all a bit warped really... the only people (it seems) that can sit on jury service are the old and unemployed.

Is this representative of the accused peers ? (maybe it is in a lot of cases lol)

Cheers

Stu

[Marmoot]

Can "beyond reasonable doubt" principle/arguments be applied to speeding tickets as well?

[James Deuce]

I am not sure they just threw it away, they allowed a heap of it to be burned when they agreed to the house being burned down very shortly after the murders took place.

Stored evidence was destroyed in 1995.

[Mom]

Stored evidence was destroyed in 1995.

Perhaps I should have said ...they also allowed...

[Swoop]

Two words on the verdict:

Fucking

Excellent.

[hospitalfood]

bain family reunion = one more bullet

[hospitalfood]

but seriously, i never thought he did it and think it is great that the jury say he is not guilty.

the police made mistakes in the original case, thats the only reason he ended up in prison. that and the fact there was one weirdo left from a weird family and prison was the easy way to solve that problem.

[Dooly]

I reckon the guy has such potential to make cash now he's not guilty.
Employ a manager.......oops, has one, JoeK......get on the speaking circuit, appearances, etc etc etc.