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    Quote Originally Posted by MsKABC View Post
    She didn't leave because flying would have put her unborn child at risk. I would have done the same thing. Where is your compassion dude?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    makes ya wonder wtf she thought would happen to her pregnancy wise on a 4 month holiday.
    It's normal for visa to be given longer than the planned visit. There is nothing to imply that she planned to stay for 4 months; she could've planned to stay for 1 month holiday and got a visa/permit valid for 4 months before finding out that there is a complication to the pregnancy that prevented her from taking a flight out.

    However, that's not how I see it. It is merely a possible hypothesis which means we can't judge her solely based on what information is floating in the media.

    Those that do and spew out all sorts of accusations and bloody-prego-go-home chant really disgust me. Wait till your wife lays bleeding in a foreign land and see if you want the locals to say the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Those that do and spew out all sorts of accusations and bloody-prego-go-home chant really disgust me. Wait till your wife lays bleeding in a foreign land and see if you want the locals to say the same.
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    It's not costing us a thing,she has comprehensive travel insurance(so she says) and had problems in March preventing her from going home flying whilst pregnant,moral of story is take medical insurance when travelling.
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    Typical media spin doctoring I say >or mountain out of molehill.
    On the face of it a decision was made based on the LAW. On apeal due to medical reasons the decision was reversed. The woman wants to go home ffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsKABC View Post
    She didn't leave because flying would have put her unborn child at risk.
    A tourist for a certain amount of time, then chose to become an overstayer. If an individual cannot fly then a ship would have been an alternative if a person really couldn't fly.
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    It's in his arse,with his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsKABC View Post
    She didn't leave because flying would have put her unborn child at risk. I would have done the same thing. Where is your compassion dude?
    C'mon, she won't fly because she has high blood pressure. Lots of heavily pregnant women fly with high blood pressure and, before you shoot me down, this piece of info is from the high commander (the wife) a midwife and used to all sorts scudding in from pacific islands in all states of pregnancy and poor health. From the herald article it appears as meerly an excuse to use our already overcrowded facilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    A tourist for a certain amount of time, then chose to become an overstayer. If an individual cannot fly then a ship would have been an alternative if a person really couldn't fly.
    What a daft observation implied by literal analysis of the media words. It's travelling that she can't do, as she needs to be near medical care. Oh right, maybe we should ship a few doctors and nurses and medical equipments we have left with her on that ship too.

    Or, how should I say it.....if we can't take a baby out of your wife's vagina then we should cut it to pieces, extract it out carefully, and then sew it all together again? What a brilliant lateral thinker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    It's travelling that she can't do,
    Have you read the post above yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Have you read the post above yours?
    Yes. He and his wife were extrapologicating the most likely cause without proper analysis of the facts. In essence, he could be wrong so you shouldn't take him as a reference.

    During a routine medical checkup in March, doctors found complications in Mrs Skiauteris' pregnancy and had advised her to be near medical help and bed-rest to avoid pre-term labour which could result in the death of her child
    - Source: NZ Herald
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    Change the aws.
    1) Pay your own healthcare for babies born here
    2) Being born here doesn't give you any more rights than Pakeha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Yes. He and his wife were extrapologicating the most likely cause without proper analysis of the facts. In essence, he could be wrong so you shouldn't take him as a reference.

    - Source: NZ Herald
    Yeah but...there's two of us extrapolgigating to only one of you so that means we're 66.666% right and your only 33.3333% right.

    We win.

    God, don't you just love statistics.

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    The same rules applies to the hard working foreigners who's been here for 4-5 years paying taxes but are not residents, yet.

    They get sent home to deliver and are welcome back again when done.

    My colleges who's been treated like this would more than happily have paid for private hospital care $8000+, not because the health care is better here, but it's a big mission to move a whole family half around the world for a 3-4 months.

    Many choose not to come back and NZ miss out on people who helps moving the economy forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crisis management View Post
    Yeah but...there's two of us extrapolgigating to only one of you so that means we're 66.666% right and your only 33.3333% right.

    We win.

    God, don't you just love statistics.
    Not valid. In this case the two items (yours and mine) are of different quality, and hence weighted comparison should be applied instead of a straight comparison. Each item should be normalised according to the quality of the information.
    In this case, mine was fully referenced to a published newspaper which would imply the agreement from the newspaper staff and hence the weight easily exceeds 50. Yours is still 2.

    1 + 50 (as a minimum estimation) > 2

    In essence, yours is 3.8% while mine is 96.2%
    Statistically proven win.
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