David Bain's "I shot the Prick" 111 call?

[Patrick]

Bain is innocent. the fact that there are muppets on here who believe otherwise is sad.
all you "bain is guilty" crew, are you really so stupid you cannot imagine another way he got bruises and scratches ? maybe fainted after finding his whole family dead ? I pity your parents!
have you considered the possibility the dad changed his clothes ?
do you really think your single opinion is more valid that 12 opinions of others who know the facts ?

if you think he is guilty, you are very fucking stupid! and i suggest you kill yourself as a service to the rest of the world. and don't leave a mess !!! or do it before your son comes home from his paper round !!!

Guess I am a stupid muppet then..... choosing to examine the evidence in totality rather than the whims and fantasies of the defence team.

As were the original jury members... and the appeal court (twice?), and the privvy council once... then the privvy council decided to get rid of the issue by ordering a retrial. Go figure.

A few more points for you to consider:



Oh yeah and of course you'd change into some nice fresh gears after slaughtering your family but just before blowing your brains out at the most awkward angle possible eh?

How I saw it..... but not just this snippet. The whole post is tops.

whatever, the first jury did not even hear about the dad sleeping with his daughter you muppet.

And here it is.... the only "evidence" that Robin did it.... in comparison to short circuits thread, which is well worth a re read, hospital food..........

The defence did a great job. Blame the dead ones, accuse them of all the sins in the world, but try real hard to prevent the trial, (original and this one....) and have suppression of stuff which was against BAIN (as lawyers will do)... Pfffttttttt.

Tui Bill Board. Robin did it..... Yeah right.

Probably posted somewhere else, but....

1. Now David Bain has been found not guilty, he is going to become a photographer, specializing in family shots.

2. What would it take for a Bain family reunion? Just one more bullet....

3. Bain verdict out. Not guilty. It was piss poor that none of his familyn were in court to support him.

4. David Bain happy hour. First 5 shots free....

5. David Bain has been selected for the All Blacks in place of Richard KAHUI on the wing. He is not very fast, but he will leave the 1st five for dead.

6. Definition of scared? KARAM hearing BAIN thinking of him as a father.

7. Bain off to celebrate the win at KFC, said he could murder a family pack.

Probably others..... lets hear them.

[candor]

http://counterspin.co.nz/?q=retrial

This website has a petition on it to try and prevent Bain getting compensation + all the overwhealming evidence of guilt including suppressed stuff. Like Arawa telling friends David had the whole family scared after threatening them with guns. A read of the links has you feeling sorry for the petrified murder victims gathered together in the house quite unusually by Davids insistence on a family meeting. Looking at all that evidence, one can only conclude the jury were not the brightest or best informed or was bamboozled (BS).

A new low with Karam telling a murder victims brother that he hadn't known his own brother. All the money Karam has milked from this tragedy with cool premeditation -that takes someone really special I say. It is good for the much slandered victims that this website exists.

Petition may fail on reflection. This is a country where child rapist murderers who evaded the rape bit of the charge get to sue newspapers for compo which accidentally mention they are "rapist/murderers" - as they were only charged and so convicted of the murder (to save cops work as the sentence for both is no different). BTW it would not be defamation anywhere else as a murderer has no fame to lose. Only here...

Do you think its hard to back out of a 15 year lie? You'd be worried about Karam and Holmes reactions?

[Mully]

FWIW - "Not Guilty" does not mean "Innocent"

All David's lawyer had to do was introduce "reasonable doubt" - i.e. the jury had to be absolutely certain that David did commit the murders or they had to find him "Not Guilty" (perhaps the Scottish verdict of "Not Proven" would be more appropriate).

David's lawyer did precisely that. A task made easier by 15 years of media "softening-up" by Mr Karam and his ilk.

From what I've read (and to be honest, I was over it a looooong time ago), there is some evidence which shows that Robin killed everybody else and David killed Robin. An angle (as far as I know) not pursued by the Crown.

That being said, the premise of the "I shot the prick" phone call was stretching the imagination to breaking point, and was rightfully (IMO) discarded by the judge.

My thoughts are that David will get a sizable chunk of "compensation" from the Crown and no petition will make a blind bit of difference. (Citizens Initiated Referendum, anyone?)

(That also being said, and to play Devil's advocate for a moment, Karam has a point about the brother not seeing Robin for some years - mental illness (for argument's sake) can present at any age)

[Swoop]

A new low with Karam telling a murder victims brother that he hadn't known his own brother.

I'm surprised that this brother didn't know that the husband & wife were living separate lives. Real close family, huh?

[thumpameat]

joe karam was been paid 90 bucks an hour, with tax payers money to research and support david thru his trial, thats a good hourly rate, for an unskilled person, would buy some nice bikes