Michelin PR2 - easy to spin up in the wet or past it?

[nallac]

I have a stepping out issue with my pp.

I'm running a pp front and a pp2ct rear. Compared to the conti roads I was running these feel pretty loose in the wet.

The front steps out a lot, pretty much every ride in the wet ,and I don't feel overly confident on them, and I ride in all weather, in the dry they are bloody good but gimme back my conti roads in the wet anyday!!!

Told ya the contis were the business on your hornet.............

F'n awesome tyres wet or dry...

I've got some PP's to go on next,hope they are'nt as bad as you describe.

[firefighter]

Told ya the contis were the business on your hornet.............

F'n awesome tyres wet or dry...

I've got some PP's to go on next,hope they are'nt as bad as you describe.

they're not terrible, but I do find myself backing off a lot more (only when wet) particularly when turning across intersections the front is really loose, and i'm not new to wet weather riding....the road attacks I had on my 650 hyo never slipped as much and I definately pushed them harder.....

[Morcs]

I had a rear on my TL. they outperformed a corsa 3. 'nuff said.

[one fast tl1ooo]

Wat 15000k and only half worn. DONT COMPLANE, I ONLY GET 4000-5000K
out of a rear on a tl1000. and it will wheelstand b4 it wheelspins in the wet

[CTD]

15000k...nice. Im sick of replacing rubber every 3-4000km. I may be tempted to try some pr2's. Has anyone run them at the track?

[cowboyz]

yep. good track tyre too. theres nothing they cant do really. I am a huge fan.

[NZsarge]

Told ya the contis were the business on your hornet.............

F'n awesome tyres wet or dry...

I've got some PP's to go on next,hope they are'nt as bad as you describe.

Funny innit? I've stuck pretty much to Michelin and Continental since getting back on a road bike, never had any major moments on Michelin's but had some freakin' arse puckering ones on Conti SportAttack's. I've also run a couple of sets of road compound Conti RaceAttacks which were bloody awesome but poor value due to the lack of k's I got out of them but hey, they are a super grippy fast road come track day tyre so if you want to look at it that way they probably lasted pretty well.
The rest of the time i've run Michelin Pilot Power 2ct's, great tyre and reasonably ok value getting between 5-7000km out of rear tyres, gone to a PP 2ct front and Road 2 (2ct) rear, seems to be working ok so far, the Road 2 seems to grip well and is lasting very well.
I'll be sticking to Michelin's I reckon, would'nt entertain the idea of another set of Conti's unless I was feeling a bit wealthy and stuck on another set of RaceAttack's (not entirely sure about them in the wet though) but if I were contemplating the RaceAttacks i'd also be looking into a set of the new Michelin Power One's (road compound).

[Dooly]

Have Pilot Road 2s on my Speed Triple and Ducati. The Duc's rear has done 8000km on them and its hardly noticable. Same for the Speedy.
They grip awesome, and give a lot of confidence, I'll never use anything else at this stage.
Have Pilot Power 2s on the Daytona, stickier, wear a bit more, but seem good on the track, but can't tell the diff that much on the road between Power & Road, cept that I thought they were a bit slippery in the wet than the Road2s.

[SPP]

Firstly, thank you all for your feedback. It’s been be very helpful

Date of Manufacture: I couldn’t see anything obvious. There’s “3208” in an oval on the side wall?

Two suggestions I’m definitely going with:
• Suspension setup: If anyone knows a good place sing out. I think Cycletreads said they did stuff like that but I'm not particular about who so long as they know what they're doing.
• Pressures: I’ve lowered them slightly but it’s been dry for the last two days so I can’t say. They have always been good in the dry.

After all of this, I’ve mostly made up my mind to change anyway. If I’m getting 15k at the ½ -¾ (?) mark on PR2 then I’m sure I could use softer rubber and still get decent ks.

“Cowboyz”:
You posted earlier that you wanted them. If I change out, I’d leave them at the shop because I can’t carry them home. If you want them you’re welcome to just go and get them. They could probably have a good look at them to see if they're worth taking.

120/70 and 180/55. The rear has a puncture repair (plug) that Cycletreads fixed for be but I don’t think that it makes them unsafe or anything.

Cheers all

[cowboyz]

Firstly, thank you all for your feedback. It’s been be very helpful

Date of Manufacture: I couldn’t see anything obvious. There’s “3208” in an oval on the side wall?
this means the 32nd week of 2008 so its not a really old tyre.
Two suggestions I’m definitely going with:
• Suspension setup: If anyone knows a good place sing out. I think Cycletreads said they did stuff like that but I'm not particular about who so long as they know what they're doing.
• Pressures: I’ve lowered them slightly but it’s been dry for the last two days so I can’t say. They have always been good in the dry.

After all of this, I’ve mostly made up my mind to change anyway. If I’m getting 15k at the ½ -¾ (?) mark on PR2 then I’m sure I could use softer rubber and still get decent ks.

“Cowboyz”:
You posted earlier that you wanted them. If I change out, I’d leave them at the shop because I can’t carry them home. If you want them you’re welcome to just go and get them. They could probably have a good look at them to see if they're worth taking.

120/70 and 180/55. The rear has a puncture repair (plug) that Cycletreads fixed for be but I don’t think that it makes them unsafe or anything.

Cheers all

only problem with leaving them at the shop is I am 600k away. I will pm you and see if we can sort something out.

[discotex]

After all of this, I’ve mostly made up my mind to change anyway.

I highly recommend Metzeler M3's if you want loads of grip and still pretty good in the wet.

Seem to last well too. I'm about 4,000km of commuting and two trackdays (one dry, one wet) into a set and they look like new. I think I'll easily get 10-12,000km out of them. I suspect they'll disappear faster once the weather warms up and I get time for weekend fangs.

At the track I'd say they're roughly 85-95% of the grip of the BT-016 in the dry on the rear although that could be pressures and my increasing pace. They're just as good on the front but and get a lot better wet performance in the trade.

I'll probably try the PowerOne or BT-003RS for summer but M3's kick arse in the winter.

[Max Preload]

I can't believe anyone gets 15k out of any tyre.

[SPP]

I highly recommend Metzeler M3's if you want loads of grip and still pretty good in the wet.

M3 currently on your CBR 600 right? On the short list. Cheers dude.

[discotex]

M3 currently on your CBR 600 right? On the short list. Cheers dude.

Yep.. Run them about 34F/38R on the road for better life and 31F/31R on the track.

[mouldy]

Nothing sticks to shiny tar in the rain , pilot road 2's are fine ,only got one little slide from the front in the wet when I hit the white line chasing my mad maori mate up 22 , other than that no complaints .