Pita Sharples - just gotta love 'im, eh?

[peasea]

Well, true really.... I got into Uni because my academic merits, not because of my ethnicity.

Which is the way it should be. My eldest worked hard and could go to uni but has chosen to work. My youngest is still working hard and looks set to go to uni next year. That's how it's done, not a freakin' handout. It makes my blood boil, all this damnable Maori racism. (Which is what it is....)

[oldguy]

They are the poorer for making that judgement oldguy. Ignorance is not just confined to the poorly educated you know, there are a mountain of well educated wankers out there too

Hi mom, its all good, I don't take anything to heart, still trying to get My PC sorted, between emailing Microsoft help desk and trying everything they suggest to do and still no luck.

[doc]

My sentiments exactly!
Race has bugger all to do with it... victim mentallity has

I was told recently that Mental Health researchers had reason to suspect. (Faark knows where they get their info) and have identified that some maori have a gene that limits their ability to evolve.

I haven't posted this as a racist type comment, but wonder... . You have got to move on sometimes. To get advancement. Aye.

This is my feelings after talking to a Balianese guide in the Denpassar museum when we asked him about the Dutch attrocities against them.
They have moved on.

[peasea]

I was told recently that Mental Health researchers had reason to suspect. (Faark knows where they get their info) and have identified that some maori have a gene that limits their ability to evolve.

I haven't posted this as a racist type comment, but wonder... . You have got to move on sometimes. To get advancement. Aye.

This is my feelings after talking to a Balianese guide in the Denpassar museum when we asked him about the Dutch attrocities against them.
They have moved on.

Some Maori have more of those genes than others, I'd wager. Seriously; it's only been about 150 years from grass skirts to KFC. That's a hell of a culture shock for any race. Check the Abbo's plight........

[JimO]

that guy who is charging the islanders $500 for a maori passport has the right idea

[balans]

I was told recently that Mental Health researchers had reason to suspect. (Faark knows where they get their info) and have identified that some maori have a gene that limits their ability to evolve.

I haven't posted this as a racist type comment, but wonder... . You have got to move on sometimes. To get advancement. Aye.

Got a reference for that bold claim of research findings?

Sounds like bullshit to me and my admitedly limited understanding of genetics and evolution.

[Hans]

ABC 101, anyone?

[Brownstoo]

When will they learn that they're to blame for themselves being so shit. I mean if you say bro and cuz a whole bunch you already get practically free study at uni.

Stop making it easy for maoris! Stop paying them to sit on their arses and get everything handed to them for free. It's fucking mad!
Basic economics is that people respond to incentives. This has been proven so many times that it's fucking shocking that governments don't use this basic principal to make countries better.

Here's how it works. You give someone something for free, they won't work for it because they've already got it, ergo no incentive.

So if maoris are practically given university entrance as a birthright, they won't work hard for it, they'll get to uni and go "oh nah bro it's all g I'm wif Pita Sarpalzzz", get accepted, and fail epically hard because they've done none of the learning you need to do before you get to uni, and then they'll ask for maoris to just get a degree simply for saying bro and cuz a whole bunch.

What the government has done (and the world as a whole to 'under privileged races') is the exact opposite of what should be done (referring to the privilegedness of maoris, not this pita shatpiles thing).
If they do this, all that'll happen is we'll have billions, on top of our already excess supply of useless BA's and maybe even a few BA graduates. And you and me would have paid for them all. And we'd probably be paying to feed them too!

Fuck it lets all interbreed heaps and this will all go away when we're all exactly the same!

[Dave Lobster]

that guy who is charging the islanders $500 for a maori passport has the right idea

I bet he only picks on the people that have that special gene.

[SARGE]

Not true. The Americans could have got here first and then there would hardly be any maories because they would almost kill them to extinction like the native American indians. Or maybe the Chinese(if they're communist back then) get here and the maori population ends up enslaved in shoe factories.

Anyway if the English didn't come, then someone else would.

I think youll find that the Native American / Maori situation is pretty close to being the same. they were not hunted to near extinction ( sure there were some dark times and douchebaggery) but there are still plenty left. ( i am actually a half breed Cherokee Indian myself)


the Native Americans were given large chunks of tax free land for use as Reservations, on which they now enjoy legal gambling, duty free smokes and booze and heaps of other Govt perks. not the perfect solution but it works.

a good majority of N/A live below the poverty line but that is not due to lack of opportunity.. it is due to a feeling of entitlement and when the reality hits, they are usually unskilled and lazy enough to fall between the cracks.


if Maori get preferential treatment, every natural born kiwi should get the same. far as i can tell .. you are all native New Zealanders and should be treated the same .. open access to beaches/ forests/ etc.. open access to community services and govt loans/ subsidies and equal in the eyes of the govt in every way..


the treaty of Wango Tango should cover everyone who drew their first breath on NZ Soil

[Trudes]

the treaty of Wango Tango should cover everyone who drew their first breath on NZ Soil

and when I bitched about that during a university paper contact course (The Treaty of Waitangi paper) I was informed that it is my (being Pakeha) treaty too, being that the Treaty of Waitangi is essentially an agreement between two partners, Maori and The Crown (representing Europeans, Pakeha, white fellas, the English oppressor... whatever, been called them all) in which case, yes, it does cover my rights as well as Maori. (pfft)
At the end of the day I see it as the Equality vs. Equity debate... in order for Maori to have equal opportunities they need a "hand up" to reach equity in all areas of life and this is basically a way of doing that. To be honest, if I was Maori, I'd be a little pissed off with being painted as so useless that I need constant help from the Government and who ever else to do some basic things in life, like get an education, feed my kids etc.
Now don't get me wrong, I personally don't think its right... I believe people make their own fortunes... just some are born with more chances of being able to reach their ultimate potential depending upon the opportunities and fortunes of their family, but it has been shown again and again that people born into poverty can break out of it and make something of themselves if they really want it... they just have to work a bit harder at it, difficult if you have stink role models etc, but not impossible.
I think it's a bit like a spoilt child, the more you give them the more ungrateful they become and the more they expect. If you give a teenager a car the minute they get their licence there's a good chance they won't respect it and trash it pretty quickly, but if they had to work hard and earn the money to buy that car themselves there's a good chance they'll take good care of it.

[awayatc]

Maybe we can give them their own University?
Will Paremoremo do?
Will make statistics look good 2.....
Huge drop in Moari prison population,
AND huge increase in moari university attendance....
PLUS plenty of graduates to chose from for staffing purposes..

[u4ea]

As for this, while they may get entry into 2nd year, ALL medical students sit the same 5th year test determining whether they are fit to practice, no matter what race they are. There is no way in hell medical schools are going to be letting people graduate that are a danger to society.

Heres hoping that maori wont have the automatic right be fit in the 5th year in the future because they are simply a maori..This whole idea by Pita is socially irresponsible.

[davereid]

Heres hoping that maori wont have the automatic right be fit in the 5th year in the future because they are simply a maori..This whole idea by Pita is socially irresponsible.

The danger is that any policy of "positive discrimination" usually requires lowering the required standard.

Some maori will undoubtedly get a degree with a standard of work that would not normally constitute a pass for another racial group.

Other maori may do the hard yards, and get a legitimate, hard-won qualification.

How will I know, as an employer, which of the candidates has really shown the intelligence, committment and work ethic required to get a degree ?

Only by hiring the non maori ?

[martybabe]

The danger is that any policy of "positive discrimination" usually requires lowering the required standard.

Exactly Dave, I despise 'positive Descrimination' it's as evil as descrimination itself, in fact it is descrimonation by definition. I know of several such practices in the UK where the standards were lowered to encourage enrolment by candidates of other ethnic origins and genders with the sole purpose of using statistical percentages to gain PC points.

In one such incident, where the Union called foul when the entry criteria were reduced to encourage Afro Caribbeans into the work force, the entry criteria remained exactly the same to appease the union and work force but 'special task forces' were appointed to coach only the Afro Caribbeans through the entry exam. By coaching I mean giving them the answers to the test!