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    Would you trust a dealership?

    A Tauranga motorcycle dealership repaired my bike after the previous owner pranged it.. 2000 km old it was.
    Since ive owned it the front end has been shite since day one and its all got the better of me so I striped er down for a close inspection, hence my questions about straightening triple clamps the other day..
    Turns out the worst was yet to come,I was pumping the forks indivdually and noticed a huge difference in performance.. I pulled them down to find one if the fork tubes is out of a different model bike, The part does not fit but because it bolted in and looked the part the dealership obviously decided to go with it.
    The scary thing is I can see that Ive been lucky not to hit a really big bump and that fork fail.... Its that bad !!
    I guess the lesson is unless you brought your bike brand new and you trust your spanner man with your life you never really do know how safe your bike is..

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    Short answer...

    no...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lozz900 View Post
    A Tauranga motorcycle dealership repaired my bike after the previous owner pranged it.. 2000 km old it was.
    Since ive owned it the front end has been shite since day one and its all got the better of me so I striped er down for a close inspection, hence my questions about straightening triple clamps the other day..
    Turns out the worst was yet to come,I was pumping the forks indivdually and noticed a huge difference in performance.. I pulled them down to find one if the fork tubes is out of a different model bike, The part does not fit but because it bolted in and looked the part the dealership obviously decided to go with it.
    The scary thing is I can see that Ive been lucky not to hit a really big bump and that fork fail.... Its that bad !!
    I guess the lesson is unless you brought your bike brand new and you trust your spanner man with your life you never really do know how safe your bike is..


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    Quote Originally Posted by lozz900 View Post
    A Tauranga motorcycle dealership repaired my bike after the previous owner pranged it.. 2000 km old it was.
    Since ive owned it the front end has been shite since day one and its all got the better of me so I striped er down for a close inspection, hence my questions about straightening triple clamps the other day..
    Turns out the worst was yet to come,I was pumping the forks indivdually and noticed a huge difference in performance.. I pulled them down to find one if the fork tubes is out of a different model bike, The part does not fit but because it bolted in and looked the part the dealership obviously decided to go with it.
    The scary thing is I can see that Ive been lucky not to hit a really big bump and that fork fail.... Its that bad !!
    I guess the lesson is unless you brought your bike brand new and you trust your spanner man with your life you never really do know how safe your bike is..
    The retard who put your life at risk needs a good smack in the mouth.

    IME - Most bike mechanics are bikers and would not do something so stupid. There's no excuses. I do trust the dealership I use and I have changed a couple of times until I found one able to communicate at the right level.

    I hope you have told them what you have found and that you are more likely to see 'A Rocking Horse have a Shit' than use these wankers again.

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    Is there any chance the owner wanted the cheepest job under the sun? If so and he wouldnt pay for any more can you really be hard on the spanner man?

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    If you know who did the job, go talk to them....find out the facts for yourself, then you'll have a better idea what to do.
    edit; I'll also just mention that regardless of anything else, if it's really unsafe, they are not allowed to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McDuck View Post
    Is there any chance the owner wanted the cheepest job under the sun? If so and he wouldnt pay for any more can you really be hard on the spanner man?
    My understanding is that it wasn't the previous owner getting the bike repaired.

    Regardless of any budget constraints, no mechanic should ever repair a motorcycle in full knowledge that it will be unbalanced and dangerous. And if he wasn't aware of this, he should not be a motorcycle mechanic.

    Of course there is the possibility that this was a genuine mistake and the either the incorrect part was ordered or an incorrect part was already on the bike meaning that the correct part caused the problem. This is why you should always change in front or rear pairs, as differing wear levels can also have a similar effect.

    And finally: This is the sort of problem that the Road Test prior to release is designed to address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    Regardless of any budget constraints, no mechanic should ever repair a motorcycle in full knowledge that it will be unbalanced and dangerous.
    You are not legally allowed to do an unsafe job. The words Not fit for purpose cover this. It applies to practices and products.
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    I would probably go and talk to the owner of the dealership and let them know what happened. Remind them that if you had an accident and died the mechanic could be charged with negligent man-slaughter.

    You may find out the owner is unaware, and may be shocked to find out what his employee did.

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    Don't know you or the bike you are talking about - but are you certain that the part is actually wrong?

    What I'm meaning is that not all suspension units have both compression and rebound dampening in BOTH forks. Are you certain that this isn't the case here hence the difference between the internals?

    If you are then as you were and I'll mind my own business.

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    Interesting Post - I picked up a RGV250 a couple of months back which needed a litte engine work. The previous owner had just spent over $2k with his mechanic, within 2 hrs of getting the bike home it was condemed to the parts bin - the major problems as I saw them:

    No oil in forks, seals shot to pieces
    Drive chain links rusted solid
    water in gearbox oil
    no brake fluid in reservoirs
    break discs worn well below spec
    exhaust mounts broken

    Please don't read this wrongly the purchase was my risk so no issue with the kid who sold it to me - however how a competent mechanic could allow the bike out of his shop a couple of months earlier in this condition shows a complete lack of proffessionalism. I would suggest the mechanic should have a least given him a list of faults, and refuse to work on it unless the safety critical ones would be fixed.

    I think the moral is to only use people you trust and check all work carried out.

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    Thumbs up trust

    I don't trust any one really

    Pays to check things out - but there's always going to be the risk of someone not doing there job properly

    I use Boyds here in Hamilton, they seem reliable and honest, their mechanics have a very good rep; but I think they see my old bandit as a pile of shit, compared to what they normally work on, and therefore I get the feeling they do a bit of a quick job on it at times.

    So for anything major - I think I'd try and find someone who cares about bikes, no matter how old or shitty it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    I use Boyds here in Hamilton, they seem reliable and honest, their mechanics have a very good rep; but I think they see my old bandit as a pile of shit, compared to what they normally work on, and therefore I get the feeling they do a bit of a quick job on it at times.

    So for anything major - I think I'd try and find someone who cares about bikes, no matter how old or shitty it is
    Reliable and Honest - that's exactly what you want to hear regarding a workshop - thumbs up to Boyds then.

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    I am Moto-Dynamix YOu who ever you are, ( Any customer) will never recieve YOUR bike back incomplete or Not 100% finished.

    I know what it is like to Die from poor quality workman ship

    PS, have any one that has replied to the first post, actually read every one elses posts, or just posted?
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    I'm not a very trusting soul. I do all my own work. I trust me alot more than minimum wage apprentice at dealership. And I can take as long as I like to do the job properly without grumpy workshop manager or shop owner giving me the hurry up and causing corners to be cut. Most don't care about your bike as much as they care about relieving you of the contents of your wallet.

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