Pita Sharples - just gotta love 'im, eh?

**PrincessBandit** · 17th June 2009, 18:45

I see Pita Sharples would like open entry to university for Maori students. He quotes the small percentage of Maori graduates as a prompt for this.

What I don't understand is that there ARE Maori completing degrees. Surely they are the example that it can be done and should encourage others to follow the same path - but no! make them feel that the hard work they put in to get there in the first place was not necessary. All they needed to do was shag around at school, not bother with qualifications (like everyone else has to) and there is the open door.

Great. Self fulfilling prophecy of the reinforcement of underachieving being ok since it won't stop them from gaining entry to the higher academic echelons.

Wonder how far it will get?

**JimO** · 17th June 2009, 18:46

when other people dont, if they fail at ncea shurly they will fail at uni. good old Pita Sharples

**PrincessBandit** · 17th June 2009, 18:51

Haha, you must have been doing this thread while I was posting mine!

**Sidewinder** · 17th June 2009, 18:51

Originally Posted by jimjim

when other people dont, if they fail at ncea shurly they will fail at uni. good old Pita Sharples

and we should have some seats in goverment just for white people so they can do whats best for us just like the maori seat, oh wait that would be raceist wouldnt it? uni, can you go to uni in jail?

**Mom** · 17th June 2009, 18:52

I am surprised my ears did not actually drop off when I heard this today!

Pita Sharples wants universities to accept Maori students even if they have not achieved the basic literacy/numeracy requirements without hesitation. He also wants the universities to, if these students are not up to speed mind you, to bring them up to speed.

When hit up about the complete racisim of this request he denys it is racist.

Pita Sharples has achieved some good things for his people over the years, but he needs to find the friggen brake pedal on his demands for the now

**duckonin** · 17th June 2009, 18:53

NO! One must wonder why the powers of being are hell bent on dividing this countrys people..unless it is to point score..

**Wingnut** · 17th June 2009, 18:54

Legal racial segregation?

**Molly** · 17th June 2009, 19:08

If I was from a minority group I wouldn't want to get anything for that reason alone. You'd spend your life being seen as a 'token'. Anybody with any decency and dignity would want to compete on a level playing field and succeed based on their efforts and their efforts alone.

**R6_kid:Me** · 17th June 2009, 19:11

They already get special treatment at uni as it is. I don't see why or how they would deserve free university when there are a few hundred thousand non-maoris that are paying off their education, which they were entitled to only by making and continually attaining the required grades.

If they want 'free' uni then they can get a scholarship or join the defence forces like everyone else can/does.

**one fast tl1ooo** · 17th June 2009, 19:13

they should earn it like the rest of us...

**sAsLEX** · 17th June 2009, 19:13

Originally Posted by Wingnut

Legal racial segregation?

Didn't some chap called Nelson have a bit to say on this topic?

Interesting to note that there is a dark ratio required for employers in good old SA....... hence why we have so many professional saffers over here.

**Molly** · 17th June 2009, 19:15

Well said.

**steve_t** · 17th June 2009, 19:26

Originally Posted by R6_kid

They already get special treatment at uni as it is. I don't see why or how they would deserve free university when there are a few hundred thousand non-maoris that are paying off their education, which they were entitled to only by making and continually attaining the required grades.

If they want 'free' uni then they can get a scholarship or join the defence forces like everyone else can/does.

+1 I know of some Maori doctors who gained 'alternative entry' to medical school. They weren't smart enough to get into the course on their own grades but got a special exemption to be in the course. It's a nice thought but these doctors can end up being even more incompetent and dangerous to their patients than normal doctors are! If I want to know if a lump is cancer, I'd like to know that my doctor got their degree cos they know what they're talking about, not because they're they've been given special treatment!!

Pita Sharples said only 60-70% of Maori students leave school with level 1 NCEA. He doesn't say how many Maori students finish high school. High school is free in most cases, but that doesn't stop a lot of young Maori leaving school at 15 or 16 years of age. I don't see how making university free is going to encourage any of these kids to stay at school and go on to Uni. It's only going to benefit those who are already intending to go
Rant rant

**Indiana_Jones** · 17th June 2009, 19:32

I can't get over how they blame it on colonisation....

Any excuse, as long as you don't have to face the fact that your race has some issues it needs to sort out....

but hey, instead of sorting out these issues, it's easier to blame someone else with bullshit excuses!

-Indy

**u4ea** · 17th June 2009, 19:37

Its just another way of "double dipping" . If I interpret the treay right it is fairness for all people isnt it??

Legal segregation for sure..lamens terms.RACISM.

Why would anyone want to be accepted at a Uni and then years down the line get sued for mal practice as they didn"t aquire the medical degree through actually learning? They may well kill themselves off by their own stupidity!